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    "We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

    We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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  • Angry Jack Straw
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    Strider 88First of all, as many others have stated, thank you Dave/Rhino/any anyone else involved in the decision to release 3/29 separately. Many, many of us are very appreciative. How ironic. The very person who desperately clamored for this release, cannot even afford to purchase it. Believe me, I struggled long and hard with whether or not to purchase this release for space (a fellow head I am told), despite all the vitriol direct at myself and other "early Dead" fans. A box set that I will not even purchase myself. I have a few suggestions: 1) Let the "Foxy economic savant" make the purchase for his fellow 90s buddy, as strider 88 suggests. 2) Contact Dan Gilbert to see if he is willing to help out. Dan, space, pfox and a few others on this board, all seem respond in the same manner when they don't get their way. 3) Kickstarter.com. Kickstarter is the world's largest funding platform for creative projects. Clearly the Grateful Dead in the spring of 1990 were creative. 4) I am willing to fund a portion of the box set purchase. However, I refuse to spend more than I did myself, the 3/29 show alone. All you need is ten other folks to do the same and you have your precious box set. Mr. Jack Straw, dantian, and others, you should all help out. Space, contact whoever you need in order to figure out how to get this done. Good luck and please keep us posted. I sincerely hope you obtain this release. AJS Mr. Jack Straw. Unfortunately the page you hoped to reference supporting your case against Frank was deleted. This one was still up on the site. Page 31. Frank, as for the anwer to your question, "Why would I hand over a single dime to somebody I've never met, who for years has been spiteful, rude and mean to me?" I did.
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    Slamming fellow 'heads....
    ....I've been guilty of it. And have been on the receiving end as well. My excuse is alcohol. Makes my mouth bigger, and usually not in a good way. And for that, I apologise, if that counts for anything. I look back on some posts I sent the following day after I've sobered up and think "did someone hack my account and text that dribble? No Vince. It was you." Dammit!!
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    Love “ most “ all of it and try to give each lineup a fair shake. Mainly listen to 71-78. But just gave MSG Road Trips a good dusting off... wow. If I pinned myself to one lineup or era I might have missed this one; and it’s a dandy!. That jam out of Let It Grow with Jerry and Bruce is probably the closest Garcia ever came to reliving the Nicky Hopkins sound from 75. Its only about 4 minutes but total bliss.!Phils bass is way up front in the mix and he is killing it.!That roar for Brent at the beginnings of Know You Rider gives me chills every time. Long story short: dgaf what your favorites are; but do yourself a favor and keep an open mind. You never know what might just surprise ya. “Believe it if you need it or leave it if you dare”
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    "The recent post above, with all of those choice '73 Summer shows, now THAT should be a box. The full run. Slap a $500 price tag on it and see how the '70's only crowd reacts to that." 1- Yes it should be a box! 2- I'd gladly pay 500$ But I'm curious....are we talking about shows or money?? I love it when people talk about great shows (these are), I hate it when people talk about money. I don't go to a restaurant and complain that I can't afford to eat there. I don't go to a Porsche dealer and tell customers who are buying one that I can't afford one. Again, I love to talk about the music.......especially 72-74 (the best imo). But I hate all this talk about price and money.
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    "Blues for Allah" was the first Dead album I ever purchased (only because I was 12 and the artwork was cool). It's still my favorite studio album, and the one I listen to most as well.
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    is just so so good ... the Dark Star, good lord ... what I wouldn't give for all the 1971 we've got, and will get, to be magically transformed into 1970 instead ... Next 2 Dave's picks should be something, anything from Fall 1970 (short of that, just any 1970) ... and something to fill the 1973 gap between 4 2 73 and 10 19 73.
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    I don't listen to much studio GD
    but when I do, it often is Blues for Allah. Anthem Blues Aoxomoxoa
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    Appreciation month.
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    You have conveniently ignored the OTHER people on this message board who you have instigated problems with, in the way of personal attacks. I see no response from you to Butch's post yesterday, which I will re-post. Don't pretend you don't attack people personally for not sharing your viewpoints. Butch had no dealings with you prior to your personal attack against him, and of course the other post that is quoted here, is of you calling out EVERYBODY who doesn't agree with your assessment of RFK '89. You should acknowledge you were wrong here, and man-up with a commitment to treat people better. Quote from you to Butch: "This Wharf Rat rocks and the vocals are excellent. Tinnitus perhaps?....or you just hate Brent?" Quote from you to the rest: "If so-called fans listen to that Let It Grow from the Listening Party, and still pass on this, they might as well quit listening to the Dead all together and sell or trade their collections for Kid Rock albums. That's about as lame as they are." Be a man and own up to your words. And don't ever paint yourself as someone who does not attack others who have never said an ill word toward you.
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"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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Lotta' neg vibes in the comments today - geesh!
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Enough with 1977! Good era, but if there's only 4 releases a year, how about spreading it out some. And Dave's a good guy, but every one of these seaside chats is "blah blah blah, this is a really great show, so order it now".
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Sounds like it's nap-time here in Deadland. So many cranky campers...
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I would, of course, favor a spring '71 box due to the GREASE factor. But we'll have to settle for Summer '73, just to throw off JimInMD. The first such box -- there will be two, eventually -- will be the Watkins Glen soundcheck and show (5) discs, and 7-31-73 and 8-1-73, (3) discs each. After all, this summer is the 45th anniversary... and I have freakin' endless stories about those shows. Or, at least, the beginning of that infinite week-long series of shows.
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By my calculations, yes there has been a lot of 77 lately, but only because it happened to be the year that they chose for the box set last year. You take that away and you just have a couple Dave's Picks, each from a different leg of 1977. What year would you replace it with and not be able to say the same thing? And of course it couldn't be a year like 82 where there are no good tapes according to the people who maintain the tapes but only because it happens to be the year that they chose for the box that last year you take that away and you just have a couple days pics eat from a different leg of 1977 what year would you replace it with a not be able to say the same thing (and of course it couldn't be a year like 82 where there ate no good tapes according to the people who maintain the tapes). I think when one considers the Dave's Picks series, one can only really consider what's in the Dave's Picks series not what came out as a box set, what came out in a different series. Generally speaking if you count up all of the releases from all of the years it's pretty equal, for the years where there are a lot of good available tapes. Just my observation.
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Rumor is they had planned a '68 box, but no one who attended the shows could actually remember them in order to write the booklet.
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interesting, too, that most '68 shows will fit on a single disc. ForensicDoc and I agreed/postulated that that was due to many GD shows in '68 occurring on a bill with other bands, hence a shorter set. But what sets! We'll get a disc-full '68-er with Anthem reissue. Otherwise, I'm hard pressed to forecast how other '68 shows will reach us. Perhaps two long ones in a single, 3-disc DaP? I can underscore your point with the fact that '73 certainly took its toll; cannot imagine '68. Probably better I wasn't 'there,' or I wouldn't be 'here.'
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Well, there are some mighty good versions of this show in the archives, with lots of reviews on one show and a great Tennessee Jed, The attendees said the band was high as ever, well it is 72, Cosmic Charlie will have the Normanized version up on youtube pretty quick, nice artwork. Who recorded this show, is it a BettyBoard? A lot of attendees said that the first set was a lot better than the second set. You know what, I'll listen to 70's Dead before anything put out today anyday, I listened to the 78 show put out last year, man that is really good, and the bonus disc that came with RT #2, wow, great stuff. What song on 24 has the killer bass effect the most? Norman usually nails stuff, he likes mastering the Dead. OHHH, alright, gotta say something about the guitar mag effects pedal special of the year, I used to love pedals when I played guitar , I was lookin at all those pedals and the guys that were using them , Gilmore used 3 compressor pedals, I loved compressor pedals, Gilmore had a dynacomp, boss and one other one to drive all his delay and reverb pedals. I still have one pedal,its'a mxr custom comp,sounds sweet. I had a Keeley and a Wampler compressor before, but these basically use the Ross circuit. What is cool and different is a good orange squeezer, like Knopler on Sultans of Swing. Not one word about Jerry, He had a booster built into his guitar. Jerry made the envelope filter sing,loved that Mutron 3, less than 100 bucks back when it first came out. Not one mention of Jerry or Bobby in that whole mag, downright depressing.
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Not surprised this sold out. Even without the subscription's near sellout, this was bound to draw a lot of interest. Heavily traded show from a popular year, and has circulated in high quality for many years. An upgrade certainly gets my attention. I love 11/6/77 as much as the next person, but 5/23/82 Greek is elevated to such a higher level of energy and power, that you just have to hear it for yourself. No collection should be without this in it. https://archive.org/details/gd82-05-23.sbd.gorinsky.5058.sbeok.shnf
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To early to muse about Volume 27? I'm leaning toward 12-1-79.
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i'm just like when do I get it? also 2/20/91 is way better than the previous nite. also no word on if there is filler. I get it though why bother paying someone to add a setlist for a show that is going to sell out in minutes and probly get shipped out tomorrow. also there's more '74 than '77 in Dave's Picks. '74 actually dominates the releases
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o4 22 79 brents first show for 27
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I'd like to see the rest of the Veneta week - 8/20-24/72. Go to Deadlists and check the sets - they sure look good to me! Like the '78 box, I love the idea of having the entire week. BTW, has the '78 box sold out? lol
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Would be great if they had a multi track of it. As it is though, not close to Betty Board quality, and a hard listen for me.
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Fuckin' lame -- yet another 70's show. Almost as lame as the prices for Dead & Co. This Dave guy has no care for anything but the 70's Dead which is "a fuckin' shame".
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....good job on changing those last couple of words. Because that was crazy to think, let alone type.
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Just now giving a side by side comparison between 5/23/82 and the "Listening Party" above. There's absolutely nothing wrong with the Greek recording. This Healy recording actually sounds brighter, punchier and fuller than Betty's 11/6/77 tapes. I think both shows and recordings sound great. Apples and oranges to me. You can't really judge every tape recorded in '82 based entirely on the 7/31/82 Manor Downs recording as included in 30 TATS or the Alpine Valley Dicks Picks (both of which I like a lot), even as raw as they are. By the time the sound is dialed in a minute or two into the '82 Greek Shakedown, it's like candy for the ears. If it's not your cup of tea, cool. If you want to hear Jerry perform an inspired "They Love Each Other", drop what your doing and check out the link I posted above. It's a good one. The Let It Grow later in the set will leave jaws dropping to the ground, for those not familiar. edit - I have to add that The Other One from 5/23/82 is a monster. Jerry played it like it was '72 all over again. This song was often comparatively (to the pre-hiatus versions) truncated, especially in the 80's, but not this version. They explore it pretty fully during it's 12 minute duration. The Stella Blue that follows speaks for itself. There are some '89 late Spring and Summer versions of The Other One, such as 5/7/89 that get so far out there, that it's a shame that it hasn't already been released. If the Dead were consciously writing setlists to be thematic on occasion, this is a really dark show, almost frieghtening, yet amazing at the same time.
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so much kvetching, people. predictable as rain in Seattle. I would love love love 66, 67, 68 stuff. I really don't think we're going to get much 80s. except I have advocated for a Greek box. except for one date in 68, all Greeks were in the 80s. my old joke: what does a dosed frog say? "Greeeeeeek....Greeeeeek....Greeeeeeeeeeeeek"
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8/1/73 would be awesome. It's one of my all-time favorite Dead shows. Great Dark Star, great Eyes, great Morning Dew - and then they just keep going!
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8/1/73 would be awesome. It's one of my all-time favorite Dead shows. Great Dark Star, great Eyes, great Morning Dew - and then they just keep going!
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If there is anyone out there that is bummed out that there is another releasefrom the 70's, and wants to sell their copy of Dave's Picks to me, I will gladly buy it from you. I missed the subscription for the first time since this series' inception, and was bummed! Was even more bummed out when I saw that vol.25 is sold out all ready. PM me if you don't need another '77 show and want to sell your copy. Thanks! Chris
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first of all, I am sorry. second: the bulk of what you want to hear is in the listening party, anyway. I mean, I like this show and all, but until now, it has left me feeling, "whatever." Especially the Scarlet...rather tepid. with a full Norman, I should get full GD wood with this show. no complaints from me at all. More GD!!! :)))
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Can never get enough 70's, wishing for a 74 BOX set
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I like that. I'm going to keep advocating for a Greek release until either... a) they release at least one (besides the 68 show) or b) I'm dead ...which doesn't mean I'm going to stop advocating for another Red Rocks release, or a Cal expo release, or something from the Frost, or even something from the Blossum Music Theater....
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The Greek 88 copies I had on tape all those years ago sounded pretty good. I have to admit.. I have not really focused on the ones from the Archive that much, but all things considered I think the tape sources from that run sound pretty good to me.
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I have a spare GSTL Box if anyone needs one. It has been opened and all CD’s have been listened to and confirmed to be defect free (5-5-77 CD2 is a replacement because the first one was defective).I’ll sell it for what it cost me plus half of the cost to ship it to you (UPS, U.S. only; if international you pay the shipping and any customs duties). $156 (what is cost me after tax and shipping) $9 (UPS shipping with insurance; U.S. addresses) = $165 PM me if interested.
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i cycle shows on and off my phone (depending on storage) but currently both 5/23/82 and 6/15/85 both happen to be among the rotation. Two great Greek shows, two great sounding boards. As always I'm happy to share if anyone is interested....
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This is a rough two weeks. I wonder if the Truckin' he's raving about is better than the one from a couple nights before (ended up on DP 34). That one caught me by surprise over the summer. Grooving to some Go To Nassau from October '80. I don't know. I like it better than Dead Set. Maybe because it was one of the first Dead CDs I ever heard. Dead Set has a cooler album cover. The Franklin's Tower on Nassau is so damn good. Jerry just wails throughout the solo. The Jack Straw cooks too. Playing in the Band has just the right amount of Hammond. Great mixing. Uh oh, they're home.
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I can ''Burn'' This CD for you when it arrives....Just let me know.No Charge...Just Pay to Ship to you. Thomas.
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How about a 1970 show and include the New Riders set with it? That would be something different and special. May 1970, preferably.
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How about a 1970 show and include the New Riders set with it? That would be something different and special. May 1970, preferably.
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hey now- anyone have the thirty trips box set for sale? if so please dm me. very interested for my own collection or just burn shows-not for resale- i have # 72 box set- was AWAY and missed this box-noticed one of my favorite shows 9/28/75 thanks- definition of integrity-keeping ones word even if circumstances change-thanks
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1982 is my favorite year, Stolzfus. Release after release from Dave, I think a 1982 show will be released that I can buy. I have tapes of those Greek shows that listened to more than any other shows back in the 90's. Bliss for me. But have not listened to those tapes in many years. Its ridiculous that after 25 years of Dick Picks and Dave Picks they have not released a 82 show!! C'mon already, Dave!
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1982 is my favorite year, Stolzfus. Release after release from Dave, I think a 1982 show will be released that I can buy. I have tapes of those Greek shows that listened to more than any other shows back in the 90's. Bliss for me. But have not listened to those tapes in many years. Its ridiculous that after 25 years of Dick Picks and Dave Picks they have not released a 82 show!! C'mon already, Dave!
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1982 is my favorite year, Stolzfus. Release after release from Dave, I think a 1982 show will be released that I can buy. I have tapes of those Greek shows that listened to more than any other shows back in the 90's. Bliss for me. But have not listened to those tapes in many years. Its ridiculous that after 25 years of Dick Picks and Dave Picks they have not released a 82 show!! C'mon already, Dave!
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Five-to-ten, probably, for anyone but Garcia. Another couple magnificent photos posted from that person who seemingly has access to scores of rare brilliant images I always enjoy and have never seen. Listening to a lot of Gregg Allman today. Awesome. Totally stoked about this 1977 show, love me some Seventies Dead. Just grateful that this series is so popular and will likely continue forever. Or at least as long as I'm interested. Cheers all! \m/
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Saw the reference to listening to Greg Allman today - funny, I was listening to the Allman Brothers Fillmore '71 complete recordings that I just recently picked up. Good stuff. I hadn't even realized that it was available until recently.
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Released in 1981 before CD's as a double album on vinyl. Two discs, two sides each @ ~18 to 20 minutes per side. The original format was ill-suited for what they were trying to do. Additionally it was heavily edited, vocals touched up and the like. Admittingly, I loved it.. still do I guess, especially the Fire/Drums/Space/Franklins, but it always felt like they forced it to me. It's incredible that Go To Nassau is the only other release they have so far been able to conjure from the multi-tracks from that tour. Lets hope they are saving something for the 50th anniversary of 1980 (their 15th anniversary as a band) and we finally get another multi-track release from this run. It's hard for me to compare the two, some of the material on Dead Set was hand picked for the album, choice material from the tour. Yet, I find myself agreeing that a single hot show from the same tour recorded to the same standards has a better feel 38 years later...
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I would have bet large sums of money that the remainder of 11/2/77 would have been on here. There's plenty of room, especially at the end of disc two, so perhaps the tracks from 11/2 are on here, but just not listed? Here's hoping . . .
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For those who are lamenting the fact that we're getting another '77 release, check out the rankings for 11/6/77 on headyversion.com. Both Truckin' and Music Never Stopped are "top 5" versions, according to users. That's all the justification you need. In some ways, I think it's hard to find release-worthy FULL shows, but when it's got 2 songs considered "top 5" versions by many, that's pretty good. Even ol' Dave said he'd put this show in his personal top 40. Also, Nov. 6th is my birthday and I went to grad school in Binghamton, so that gives this a certain "it" factor for me. Heh. I actually saw one concert in the Broome County Arena while I was there: Frank Zappa, 3/17/88. That was a great show, too!
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Just where did Hunter come up with the name Jack Straw? Perhaps he had parts of it in his head when he lived in the UK circa 1970?? (think I'm right about that). Ten years ago, if you googled Jack Straw you got John Whitaker "Jack" Straw, who was serving in Parliament from 1979 to 2015, specifically as Home Secretary from 1997 to 2001 and Foreign Secretary from 2001 to 2006 under Tony Blair. You got pages and pages of replies for this guy before you came to the legendary song from Hunter and Weir. Now, I am glad to report.. you get pages and pages of GD related pages related to the song that will surely outlive that talking head. But where did the name come from? David Dodd's Annotated GD research mentions the name Pick Up Sticks was called Jack Straw, it also mentions the name Jack Straw being attributed to people (in England) going back to the 1300's. I would like to think there might be a connection between the British politician who was active as a labor union leader about the time Hunter was living in the UK and the story he and Bobby decided to put to music in the summer of 1971?? (first performed on 10/19/71- Northrop Auditorium, U. Of Minn. - Minneapolis, MN) Sorry for the rant, Jack Strawberry's post and creative username got me thinking of all the Jack Straws in the world. I guess Jack Straw intrigues me still.
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Binghamton is a classic show.. Call it sacrilege, but 77 does not always make my blood boil like say 1974, 1972 or 1968.. but it's a very good year and 11/6 is a great show. I don't plan to go nuts when it arrives, I have listened to this show plenty, I will rip it to file, put in on the shelf in my office next to the last Dave's Picks and eventually listen to it when I am in the mood and properly mood enhanced. But it is a great show, a giant.. and I am very glad to see it get sunlight and proper restoration and remastering. It is more than worthy. The 71 bonanza that's coming our way next.. is a twofer I am not quite so familiar with, so I might have to get electrically mood enhances for the first listen to that one. I am actually more psyched about it. Well, Binghamton too.. go bold or don't go at all, which is exactly what Dave seems to being these days.
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