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    "We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

    We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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    So, according to that article from Jambase, "Pinkus...confirmed a collection of 80 soundboard tapes recorded by the famed Betty Cantor-Jackson have been added to the vault." Also according to that article, "the Grateful Dead recently unveiled a 50th anniversary edition of their 1967 studio album [and] Pinkus confirms a similar set for Anthem Of The Sun is coming [in 2018]." That means a couple of things: 1) The upcoming releases will be Betty Boards, which range in date from 1971-1980 at the latest. That means there is no need to come on any thread on the Grateful Dead website and start bitching and moaning about the lack of representation of latter era Dead. You all already know that, for the foreseeable future, the embarrassment of riches known as the Betty Boards will largely be mined for releases. 2) There will be no '68 box in 2018. From a basic marketing standpoint, it makes absolutely no sense to re-release a '68 album with (most likely) '68 live material and THEN turn around and release a '68 box separately. Not going to happen. Whatever box they do release this year will be from some other year, and it's a pretty safe bet it's a year between 1971 and 1979. I say all this as someone who rarely posts but often reads the Dave's Picks threads, and who is often dismayed to see the same old complaints from the same tiny vocal minority. I"m not part of some mythical "70s mafia," I'm just telling it like it is. Please don't come on here and bum everyone out by bitching and moaning about not getting what you want. The Dead are just about the only classic rock act cranking out release after release of archival material like clockwork. We're lucky to have so much material to choose from, and in such frequent quantity. And there's always the archive site to satisfy the remainder of your listening desires.
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    listen up at dead of the dayhttp://gratefuldeadoftheday.com/03-31-1968 load down at the midnight cafe Lossless Bootleg Bonanza: Grateful Dead – San Francisco, CA (03/31/68) 19_300a_lg Grateful Dead 68-03-31 Carousel Ballroom San Francisco, CA Download: FLAC/MP3 https://themidnightcafe.org/2017/03/21/lossless-bootleg-bonanza-gratefu… Recording Info: SBD -> (4 Track) Master Reels -> Dat (44.1k) This is a tagged version of shnid: 108995 Transfer Info: Dat (Sony R500) -> Adobe Audition v3.0 -> Samplitude Professional v11.03 -> FLAC (1 Disc Audio / 1 Disc FLAC) All Transfers and Mastering By Charlie Miller charliemiller87@earthlink.net June 13, 2010 Set 1: d1t01 – Turn On Your Lovelight d1t02 – Beat It On Down The Line d1t03 – Dancing In The Street d1t04 – Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) -> d1t05 – Feedback -> d1t06 – And We Bid You Good Night Notes: — There is a lot of audience mixed in with this soundboard — Date and song order are uncertain (I’m going with Dick’s notes on DAT) — This is the same Caution>Feedback>AWBYGN as I put on 1/22/68 (Per Dick’s notes) — Cut in the beginning of Turn On Your Lovelight — Severe mix changes during Dancing In The Street — Beginning of Caution is missing — Thanks to Rob Eaton for lending me his Dats — Thanks To Joe B. Jones for his help with the pitch correction
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    listen at dead of the day March 31, 1973 http://gratefuldeadoftheday.com/03-31-1973 Memorial Auditorium Buffalo, New York The night is tremendous from top to bottom, including everything from a perfectly rendered Box to a raging Playin’. However, the boys turn it up a notch further still in the latter portion of the second set. The He’s Gone leads the way, as the boys strut through, throwing all their emotion and verve into the playing and vocal vamping, before heading right into a boundless Truckin’. A plucky little jam after the Truckin’ - with some hints of Nobody’s Fault - provides a little change of pace. But then Billy takes us in a different direction altogether, thundering forward and powering through a segue into a monster Other One. TOO blisters out of the gate and then finds some slower, less traveled territory, summoning the bullfighters, paisanos, and flamenco of a Spanish Jam that they meld with the Other One theme for a while. Finally, TOO is left behind completely and they strike out into an extraterrestrial space, exploring distant galaxies before gathering into a bluesy country ramble that leads right to, quite unexpectedly, Rider. The Rider surges and soars, but holds on to a real bluegrassy feel throughout. After a pause, the band fires away with a full-bore Sugar Mags to put a rocking cap on the set.
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    someone decided to huck a beer bottle at Bill's drum set that night during Comes A Time.
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    ....always look on the bright side of life. Never tried fentanyl. Not a fan, thanks to recent news. How was it?
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    In a way, the old threads are more interesting and more like an acid test than new ones regarding recently announced product, where there is a bit more continuity to the posts. My last 72 hours have been surreal. Took the family up to Keystone Wednesday night for a Thursday day of tubing/skiing. Good times. Rocked Michael Schenker later that night at Cervante's Masterpiece Ballroom, a notable Dead-themed venue. Seeing Michael in there was a bit weird but not unpleasant. Went back to work Friday, and unexpectedly became ill and barfed into the wastebasket next to my desk. No one was around, fortunately I was able to change the bag and get it outside before grossing anyone out (except you, sorry). Took the rest of the day off, went home and was basically couch-bound until it was time for Davy Knowles, which I made it through. Was just a 24-hour stomach bug, I guess, my oldest son got it about 10 hours after I did. Davy Knowles is a young guitarist/singer from the Isle of Man over yonder 'cross the pond. He is amazing; just a mind-blowing talent. See him live if you get a chance. This morning, just after breakfast I experienced a massive attack of unbearable pain in my side and abdomen. Finally the wife drove me to hospital. Kidney stone. It took three shots of Fentanyl to take the edge off along with some other drugs. Eventually, they gave in and pumped me full of Dilaudid and sent me home. Couple of hours later, I passed it rather uneventfully. And now the Doc sent me home with a couple dozen more Dilaudid. I'm one of those people who can do just about anything without becoming dependent, so I think I'll save them for later, or, God forbid another kidney stone so I can ride the storm out without the trip to the E.R. Back in the saddle, just in time for an Easter gathering tomorrow here at the casa. Feel like I just came out the other side of the rabbit hole.
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    Well, damn muleskinner....
    ....I felt pressured just reading that!
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    Buddy Cage on BOTT, from A Simple Twist of Fate by Andy Gill & Kevin Odegard (Odegard played on the Minneapolis sessions for the album): --- Which is how, one night late in September 1974, Buddy Cage found himself alone in the vastness of A&R’s Studio A, perched over his pedal steel guitar, listening to Bob Dylan’s amazing new songs. If working with Dylan wasn’t a daunting enough prospect on its own, Buddy was further impressed to find Phil Ramone, probably the hottest producer in the country at that time, working as the engineer. “The Blood on the Tracks session was the first time I met Bob, “says Cage. “We went in there, just the three of us, and Bob says, “Where are the tunes for him, Phil?” Phil just pops it into gear and, like, sixteen, seventeen, or eighteen, somewhere in that region, masterpieces come out! I was, like, What the f***!? Dylan says, ‘Well, can you do anything? Would you like to start with one?’ I said, ‘Bob, the best thing I can do to help you is to pack up my guitar and go home.’ He said, ‘Well, thanks, man, but don’t you think you could play on one?’ then turns to Phil and says, ‘Phil, roll ‘em again.’ “Phil played ‘em over, and more in exasperation than anything, I said, ‘Maybe this one, or that one.’ I guess I did about three or four of them – but in any case, ‘Meet Me in the Morning’ was the one he kept for Blood on the Tracks. I was way out in this huge studio that could hold a full orchestra, a really large room, and I’m in the middle of it – just me, my steel, and my amp. I’d been doing sessions as long as I can remember, and the way I saw it was that Phil was going to run this thing, ‘Meet Me in the Morning’, for me and I was going to do a few takes - I usually get the best hits in the first two or three times through. An old Grateful Dead thing is never to stop recording it, and try to record more than you erase; so that was my approach: Let me do it two or three times, and you’ll have it – I’m that quick – and he can plug them in wherever he wants, the choices would be up to him and Bob. But that’s not what Dylan wanted, apparently: He ended up flashing the light time after time after time, and I found myself having to do six or seven takes.” Worse still, there was little guidance as to what was wrong with the interrupted takes. “Not only was my wrist getting tired, but there was no conversation, no instructions, no nothing,” Cage recalls, “just ‘Do it again, do it again.’ I was getting really uncomfortable. Then finally the door to the control room opened, and Dylan comes striding out, walks straight up to my steel, and sticks the toes of his cowboy boots under my pedal bar. I don’t know why he did that – maybe for emphasis. Anyway, he does that and says, ‘The first five verses is singin’ – you don’t play; the last verse is playin’ – you play!” plunks his toes out from under my pedal bar, turns, and strides back into the control room.” During the evening, the control room had begun to fill up with well-wishers and hangers-on, and as the shock over Dylan’s rudeness turned into anger at the singer’s disrespectful treatment of his instrument, the public humiliation spurred Cage to the brink of rage. “At that point, in the control room, there was him and Phil Ramone, Mick Jagger, my road manager, my crew chief, my limo driver and bodyguard, and John Hammond Sr., had come in to hear what I was doing,” says Cage, “and at that very instance, for about ten seconds, I was embarrassed to the bone marrow. But as I mentioned before, I was a punk-ass, and that just kicks in; that’s always the way it’s been with me, and I thought, ‘Well, you little f***, I’m taller than you, and you’re not gonna get away with that!’ Phil came on the phones then – he was clearly uncomfortable too – and he said, ‘You wanna practice one?’ and I said, ‘No – print it!’ “So the red light came on and I just did one take. I played lightly over the five verses, but the one where he wanted me to get major was on the verse with ‘Look at that sun, sinking like a ship.’” And get major he did. Fired up with fury, Cage peeled off a searing break that uncoiled through the song’s closing stages like an angry snake, providing a piquant counterpoint to the number’s relaxed, bluesy tone. Buddy knew he’d nailed it, and without waiting for any further intervention or possible humiliation, he stood up from his instrument with an air of brusque finality. “I had the picks and the bar off my hands and I was walking away from the guitar before the track was finished, striding into the control room,” he recalls. “When I busted into the control room, he was laughin’ his ass off! I looked at Ramone, and he was shakin’ his head, sayin’, ‘That was beautiful!’ John Hammond said, ‘Man that was unbelievable!’ I just looked at Dylan and said ‘F*** you!’ and he just laughed – he said, ‘Well, we got it!’ ---
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    Thanks for posting the Glendale Train, LMG. I've been on a mini NRPS kick here, mostly listening to their Veneta set in the car. Felt like it was a necessary piece of history to accompany the Sunshine Daydream release. Here's a full concert from just a few months earlier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZWw87UgrwI I didn't realize Garcia was actually on their first album, I knew he started it but didn't know that made it to record. I do like Buddy Cage, there was a great story of how Dylan pissed him off to get that mean pedal solo on Meet Me In The Morning on Blood on the Tracks. It worked.
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    Extra greasy 7 CD release.Wait. 7 CD’s only constitutes a mini-Box. We’re due a full-size Box. Extra greasy 7 show Box. Oh yeah, that’s the stuff. PTB, please have a 1 Box order limit for the first 72 hours, and give us a (Dead) Heads up in advance of the on sale time. Please give everyone a chance to score a Box of thick-cut, smokey, extra greasy bacon.
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"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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Yes, that one has me miffed too. I did poke around and asked Lemieux a series of questions about the contents of the returned reels to which he responded. I specifically asked him if any of the tapes returned were complete surprises, meaning.. new shows or parts of shows that had not circulated with setlists unknown. He was a bit guarded, but answered the question.. he said no, not much new information but many sound much better than anything that circulates. Again, I don't think he revealed anything new nor would he to some random guy who sent him an email.. and a couple releases later we got Dave's Picks 24 where the final part of the second was completely unknown.. but still it's all very interesting. The last thing he said was some of the older tapes, 71 and 72 sound significantly better than what circulates. Which brings us to Dave's Picks 25 :D
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Excellent conversation. For those clamoring for more 80s and 90s who have NOT read earlier threads that include Dave's comments on 80s tapes, there is another reason: the kick drum. I would never have guessed that a prominent kick drum could be so annoying, but Dave is right. On many of these 80s recordings - especially the "pre-coma" shows - the kick drum is prominent in the mix on the existing tapes. Of course you won't hear it at all in a boomy audience tape, which may be part of the reason that '81 show got released as a matrix. The Frost shows are great recommendations for listeners of 80s era, and I'm glad to see 10/9 getting some love. I've always seen 10/10 get all the accolades, but I much prefer 10/9 for what feel like near-definitive versions of Alabama>Greatest Story, West L.A., and Throwing Stones> Touch of Grey.
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The first time I really noticed the "kick drum problem" was on the 30 trips Worcester 10/21/83 show. Dang, its really prominent all through that show. After a first listen, I didn't think I'd ever be able to enjoy the show. But lately I've been listening to it a lot and have learned to pretty much ignore the kick drum and enjoy the music. That's a great jammy second set. Weir's playing is particularly great/weird. He must have been in a weird mood, even by his own standards!
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listening to disc 1 of 5/5/90 got through the first part of Franklin's. like a brontosaurus that got into the sleeping pills or something. Race Is On: very cool. other than that...c'mon, wake up guys!!! I'll listen to the rest eventually; they must pull themselves "out of the oxygen tent" at some point. Young girl, they call them the Grateful Dead. No matter what, the only band that _truly_ matters.
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I think BG's line sums them up a lot better than applying the Clash's line to them
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The Frost shows while also bathed in beauty never had the same emergy as tje Greek
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All of the talk about eras and such brought up some memories for me about the tapes I had back when that was the way everyone got to hear shows. In getting those tapes, I had collected a variety of shows from many eras, but most were from the 60s and 70s. I was told by other seasoned heads at the time that although they loved the Grateful Dead the best shows were from “back in the day”. I discovered early on that “back in the day” meant different things to different people. In any case my listening habits were shaped by the tapes I got. So I will say that I may have been one to listen to select eras as a result of this for quite some time. Fast forward to the present and I feel like I have expanded my horizons as I have done more listening homework. However even with that there is so much I don’t know. For example, I really never delved into 1982 shows. I recently acquired the Road Trips from 4/6/82, and that is a tremendous release. Earlier on in the comments many referenced several 1982 shows that I had never heard (Frost 10/10 was one and a Greek show 5/23, I believe was another). Well while at work, I jumped on the archive and found them, played them, loved them. Conversely, several have mentioned shows from 1972- 7/26 & 8/12. Now I felt like I had a way better handle on 1972, but I listened to those as well. Great stuff of course and again I discovered something new. My point from this is that I ma not really sure how exactly to define Grateful Dead eras, but when someone on these pages recommends a show or shows I check them out, regardless of era or year. Just important when it comes to releases, I only have 3 pieces of criteria: good show, good sound quality, and hopefully it is a complete show if possible. This also reminds me of the discussions that were had when the Rocking the Cradle was released. One of the arguments against its release was that although the venue of the Pyramids and Giza was about as cool as it could be, the playing was not up to par. I am not intending to stir a debate but simply that even for then, this was not a show that was widely desired for release while others were desired and also in the vault. So as we wait on the box set announcement and the eventual Dave’s 27 and 28, I just hope that they continue to be good shows in good sound quality. I do know that a good show is subjective not only to the listener but also to the time frame (or era). Still as long the releases meet the criteria I think we are all going to be better off as there is so much more great music by this band left to be released. I am enjoying the ride for sure.
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Thanks, alvarhanso and Jim, I guess I totally overlooked the fact that there could be more than one SBD recording of a show. That's a bit of a mind bender. Not sure why that never occurred to me be before. I guess I always heard moans about how expensive the tape was so I just figured it was a one-shot deal. As a side note, anybody know of any "authoritative" list for who recorded what shows for the GOGD? I've looked in Deadbase but the thing is like a million pages and it may have gone unnoticed. Regarding the Bear recording(s), I agree that's a bit of a head scratcher. I guess they wouldn't necessarily have come from the Betty Boxes. Mountain Girl had some stuff that was returned too so perhaps it was tied up in there? I do agree that the stuff from Rex likely was likely part of Betty's stash. There's probably some more scholarships to do around ABCD Enterprises (I admittedly know very little about this). It might be a catch-all for all of the returned boards from various sources. There are four letters... And the posters are inspiring me to check out those Frost and Greek shows. Those are officially on the todo list...
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http://goodtimes.sc/cover-stories/500-grateful-dead-shows/ Local comic DNA reflects on his years spent following the Dead BYDNAPOSTED ON JANUARY 2, 2018 On a Grateful Dead tour, you met the best people on Earth. People from all walks of life were drawn to shows like Richard Dreyfus was drawn to the Devil’s Tower in Close Encounters of the Third Kind. But there were also narcs, feds, drug addicts, clinically insane misfits and jerks. There was a series of “religious” groups, like the Golden Roaders, selling backless dresses and Sufi spinning at shows. Then there were the Moonies, although I only saw them at shows in the Northeast, who were aggressive and deceptive, selling lame stickers and incense. The Krishnas gave out free rice, but they also played their freaking tambourines and drums at sunrise to greet the day! Not a good group to camp next to. From Scientologists to evangelical Christians to mini-messiahs that paraded around in full regalia (mostly a robe, a loin cloth and a conch full of burning sage) there was no shortage of wackadoodles to join up with or be abducted by. I know that I and hundreds (or at least dozens) of other Deadheads took it upon ourselves to be the ones to “look out” for the weaker ones as the scene grew exponentially and then collapsed upon itself. I am grateful for my time in that world and recently I reflected on that journey. At least the parts I could remember.
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....that there are recordings at all. The Dead are head and shoulders, king of the hill leaders of the audio documentation of their career, as it should be. That didn't happen by chance. The Women (and men) are indeed smarter....I talk to younger (sic) people and try and lure them in with that fact. A sad few pass it off as idolism. But most respond with a "that's cool as shit!" And the seed is sown. I'm responsible for getting at least eight people in my lifetime to jump onto the bus. Get some!!!....I hung out with some Hari Krishnas during the Cal-State Dominguez Hills shows in '90. They love their rice. I did too. Even shook a tambourine for an hour or so. No regrets....it's not easy making good rice
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There’s a few of them in the movie Tie-Dyed. And they’re not even the most extreme. Yeah, those were good times......really miss them. D&C is not even a faint approximation of what it was like. FTW had really good vibes, but still.... THERE IS NOTHING LIKE A GRATEFUL DEAD CONCERT!!!!!!!
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jackstrawberry - not sure if you are aware, but the Road Trips series is being re-released on CD by Real Gone Music starting with the last releases first. So far Vol. 4 #5 Boston Music Hall 6/9/76 and Vol. 4 #4, Philadelphia, Spectrum 4/6/82 are available and Vol. 4 #3, Denver '73 will be available on February 2. I missed a few of the Road Trips and am looking forward to picking them up for a decent price. Given the weak packaging on the Road Trips series I am considering picking up another copy of some that I already have. They are available on ebay and Amazon for between $40-$50 each. I am particularly eager to pick up the 5/15/70 show on Vol. 3 #3.
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Road trips is vast and awesome. I believe, officially it's like 15 volumes. For anyone not minding iTunes downloads, the whole set is available for around $250. I certainly purchase music from apple, amazon, and dead.net, however I try to spread it around. The annual Record Store Day is a great way to bring awareness to your local record shop. There aren't nearly as many as there used to be. The experience of walking into a store and browsing product can be enjoyable, and if you make a purchase you take possession immediately not having to wait on the mails. Currently playing: a magnificent "The Eleven," Dick's Picks #26, 4/26/69 Minneapolis.
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Currently listening to Sticks by Chris Joss - mostly instrumental, cool grooves, discovered when it was background music in Better Call Saul when Mike scoped out the Kettlemens. Last 5 - Grateful Dead - 2/22/69 Dream Bowl show from 30TATS, Jerry Garcia - Reflections, Jerry Garcia - Compliments, Supreme Beings Of Leisure - Supreme Beings of Leisure, Allman Brothers Band - The 1971 Fillmore East Recordings.
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I was surprised someone mentioned this show shouldn't have been released due to poor audio. It sounds the same to me as all of the Dick's Picks era '74 WOS shows (DP 7, DP 12, DP 31). Road Trips WOS 1974 sounds a little better, but DaP 2 is right back to the lower quality. I think DaP 13 and DaP 17 sound a bit better (but technically DaP 13 is not WOS, and wasn't subject to the recording pitfalls incumbent with the Wall recording rig). Anyway, I just put DP 24 on, and it's not bad. Trust me on one thing, I did NOT like 1974 for many years, because of the generally poor audio quality, but I forced myself to listen, and eventually I became used to it. The show from DP 24 (Cow Palace) has a great set list, and that classic Playing in the Band UJB Morning Dew sandwich. Plus if you turn up the 4K band on the EQ during Scarlet Begonias Jerry's guitar sounds like Keith Richard in open D tuning. Looking forward to DaP 25. I hope this bass thing isn't as prominent as on 24. I hate to say it, but it ruined the release for me. Sorry Mr. Norman, you have my deepest respect and appreciation for your body of work, I just hear too much artificial bass tones at Berkeley. I'm not crazy about the art work. Too much red, and even I'm tiring if the skeletons. Why not have dancing bears on this one instead? Last 5: Dick's Picks 16 Dave's Picks 22 May 1977 4th Show 5/15/77 July 1978 4th Show 7/7/78 Crimson White & Indigo 7/7/89 (this is hands down the best show from 89/90). Now I have on DP 24.
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It's something without a track list as best I can tell.
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Until I saw the price tag, I assumed it was the next box set.. 1,200 CDs comprising the very best of the GD Live Performances.. Then I saw the price and sighed a big sigh of relief.. Looks like a Ronco Records or K-Tell best of compilation of stuff already put out on Dick's/Dave's and other vault releases.
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probably is just a comp of previously released, but there will probably be a previously UNreleased "West LA" or "Picasso Moon" in there. O r i t c o u l d b e . . . FIVETWENTYTHREEEIGHTYTWO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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So when is DaP25 slated to ship? Couldn't find a date.
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No idea, but in my order status it gives 26 January as the release date. If you are lucky you will receive a mail confirming that your order has shipped. These mails normally come some time after you have received the goods.
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1) 12-31-71 It only took me to mid January to get all the way through the December 71 run. Thx Doc! We know you're still lurking:) Then I jumped into the early 1970 run which I dabbled in last year, and have determined to finish this year. Starting with 2) 1-16-70 3) 1-17-70 4) 1-18-70 Pig fans, I highly recommend this little run through Oregon. 1-16 is especially good, IMHO, my faovrite of the three nights, seemingly the longest and jammiest. Set 1 has the best Hard to Handle this side of Otis Redding. Set 2 kicks off with a fun and lively Dancin', then a great sequence of Alligator->Drums->The Eleven concluding with a bone chilling Death Don't Have No Mercy. Which brings me too 5) Springsteen Born to Run LP. Unfortunately Mrs. Deadguy and I had to say goodbye to our beloved dog, Lucky, this weekend. He was fifteen, with a nasty cancerous tumor at the base of his throat that left him barely able to breath or swallow. Back when he was a pup, he would frequently escape whenever we opened a door, and would tear off through the neighborhood, begging for us to chase him. So we decided early on that Born to Run was his theme song. Last night I put on this record, and the two of us stood in the kitchen, bawling like babies while Bruce wailed. Tramps like us . . . right Lucky? We miss ya buddy. Midnite cafe has an excellent SBD copy of 1/16/70 if anyone needs it. https://themidnightcafe.org/2017/10/02/upgrade-bonanza-grateful-dead-po… They have 1/17 too, and 1/18 is from the download series.
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I loved your first theory . . . a 1200 CD box set featuring everything worthwhile left in the vault. Seriously, Rhino, do this. We would all buy it. You could offer some special financing deals with 5 or 10 year payment plans. Call it the Dave's Retirement Plan Box.
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I'm sorry you lost a pet. No fun.
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for years I thought this show was meh, forgettable, no worth it. Then I listened to it again last night. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED. when the show is at the right speed, and on the right sound system, it is very impressive.
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https://themidnightcafe.org/2018/01/21/repost-bonanza-grateful-dead-pem… Grateful Dead 5-22-77 The Sportatorium, Pembroke Pines, FL Download: SHN/MP3 SBD>MR>C>D>CD>Toast>SHN Dick’s Picks 3 Leftovers (when combined with the material officially released in Dick’s Pick’s 3 as shown below, this provides us with the complete show): 1. El Paso 2. Peggy-O 3. New Minglewood Blues 4. Friend Of The Devil 5. Ramble on Rose 6. Brown Eyed Women 7. Good Lovin’ 8. Sugar Magnolia Complete show as follows — Leftover songs above in brackets: Set I: Funiculi Funicula tuning->The Music Never Stopped, Sugaree, [El Paso], [Peggy-O], [Minglewood Blues], [Friend Of The Devil], Lazy Lightning-> Supplication, [Ramble On Rose], Dancin’ In The Streets Set II: Help On The Way-> Slipknot!-> Franklin’s Tower, Samson & Delilah, [Brown Eyed Women], [Good Lovin’], Sunrise, Estimated Prophet-> Eyes Of The World-> Wharf Rat-> Terrapin Station-> Morning Dew, [E: Sugar Magnolia]
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Boxilla: 80 CDs, $750 price tag. $750/80 CDs = $9.375 per disc. $9.375 per disc X 1,200 discs = $11,250.00 = one expensive box set.
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Was lucky enough to have attended Fare The Well in Chicago back in 2015. I have to say, as a veteran of 40 Grateful Dead shows, the first night in Chicago (7/3/15) was as close to the Grateful Dead experience, I have ever seen. The 2nd and third nights were kind of ho hum, but the first night captured the spirit. I'll probably see the Dead and C. thing in Albuquerque this summer. That will be enough to satiate me for the foreseeable future.
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I noticed that one of the 3 things you look out for in listening to a show, is that it is as complete as possible. I can definitely relate to that...but there are some fantastic cds that do feature only portions of shows-and they are among my favourite releases. For example-Dicks Picks 2-31st October 1971-and so many fragments from 1974. The Closing of The Winterland consists of 5 brilliant cds from October 1974, another Dicks Picks has bits from 26th and 28th June 1974-and a Road Trips has bits of 16th and 18th June. All cut up-but all indispensable!
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pretty funny VGuy! they look like wankers
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Re Daverock's comment I only want whole-show releases. There are periods that I actually prefer NOT to listen to whole shows from ('74 is one of them. '74 First Sets can't keep my attention [until PlayingITB grabs my ears at the end] and the chunks of short songs in the Second Sets irritate me after that First Set slog. The '74 chop-job releases you mentioned fit my '74 listening desires almost perfectly [and Steal Your Face compiles everything I don't want from '74 shows]. I know my '74 opinions are not typical.). Thus I do feel there are some great selections-compiled/chop-job releases. But any such releases that dropped MY preferred songs are disappointing blemishes on the GDM catalog to me. Any time a release cuts performed songs, there is a good chance the release is ruined for somebody. Full-show releases guarantee everyone getting the songs they want from that show. Full-show releases also cause three disc releases that I can't look at without thinking "drop 2 songs and this show would be half of a cool two show/four disc release, and probably some other gripes [we all have 'em], but ultimately they give the fan EVERYTHING they COULD want from that show. The show unfiltered for you to experience and modify as you desire.
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7-3-15 was awesome.My mental state was just exactly perfect for that show. It left a smoking crater of my mind.
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"There are periods that I actually prefer NOT to listen to whole shows from ('74 is one of them. " - I must say, WTF. I guess we all have our tastes. I do prefer whole show releases. Peace
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I hope he's now running in another, better place to be. Over the years, I lost, I think, four dogs and never was easy. Perhaps, the worst was the last one, if only because I was deciding what to do in that situation... Sad, really sad. In any case, when Rhino will release the 50th anniversary edition of Anthem of the Sun?
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Thursday'sChild, you can see how the Dave's series has been a bittersweet experience for me, eh? Been a subscriber since the beginning, and probably will be until the end, but sometimes it feels like I'm punching myself in the face... I really don't like throwing down the money without knowing how I feel about the 2nd 2 releases in each subyear, but it is the same as whole-show vs chop-job: better to have something I feel "meh" about than miss something I love!The post-Pig/pre-hiatus period is, to me (and only me), a time of long stretches of ho-hum spiked by EPIC jam-bombs. And the last time I had the urge to hear a Fall-72 Other One exploration I spent 10 minutes trying to choose which of the 3 9/72 Dick's Picks to choose. Eventually I gave up and listened to something else entirely!
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Daverock, yes exactly I agree with you. During the time the Road Trips were being released I passed on many of them because they were not complete shows. I even engaged in some heated debates (mainly on my end) on the boards over why complete shows the only way to listed to The Grateful Dead. Of course I was wrong. Along with developing more knowledge of shows over the years, I have also softened my stance considerably on complete shows versus fragmented ones. I have since gone back and bought many of the Road Trips which many were just that, fragments. I have talked about this before but many times with the Road Trips and the bonus discs, as well as some other combinations there are either whole sets or mostly complete shows out there that have been released. I am all cool with all of it. Even more so, if there happens to be good shows that are not complete but they get released anyway I am going to get them. I can see there being some 69, 70 and 71 shows that may fit that description. Yet when possible, I feel like complete shows should be released. I prefer to listen to the whole show if I can because for me it paints a better picture of the experience, at least as well as it can for only being a recording. The bottom line for me is that we only have a finite, albeit large number of recordings of this band so I will take anything I can get.
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....we don't deserve dogs. When I had to put my Dottie dog down a few years ago, I bawled like a baby. Not my proudest moment. After six months, we got another. Now, getting ready to get another pit-mix in a couple of months. Eldest step daughter's dog had a litter. Told her to pick out the best female. She did. Already named her Lucy. Cause Loose Lucy is my delight.....
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True.. but if you manage to pre-order (in between server crashes) you get free shipping, a collectible bonus disc, a bumper sticker, an unused ticket stub, a Do It Yourself Center of the Forehead Steelie Tattoo Kit and a free cup of hot chocolate. Plus three people get miracled (whatever that means). :D Yes to whole shows. As for the 74 chop jobs, I sort of get what they were trying to do, but it backfired a bit. One needs to look no further than 6/18/74 as proof. I could take or leave Seastones, if there's room and the recording is passible (there are some technical issues with these) go for it.. If it pushes us to a new CD and we have to cough up another $9 for it (assumes a $9 price per disc) than I say pass. I am not bitter about what's in the rear view mirror, however. They were just figuring out what works and what doesn't.
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You always have the skip track button. I skipped the incomplete Road Trips at first, and apparently missed out on some bonus discs. I got the partial shows later but didn’t get the compilations. Don’t know why I skipped Rockin the Rhein preorder, that 3/72 bonus disc now seems quite useful since I have portions of other Academy of Music shows.
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Preferable, but not a must. DP2, DP12 and LAGTGD are my three favorite releases. Not a complete show among them. DP1 and DP3 are in the top ten as well.
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yes...................possibly greatest release ever.
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Wow seth hollander,I read this comment you wrote and thought wow, not even the Winterland 1973 box set? Or how about DaP 13 from 2/24/74? RFK 6/10/73? "The post-Pig/pre-hiatus period is, to me (and only me), a time of long stretches of ho-hum spiked by EPIC jam-bombs." I'd much rather have complete shows, but like Jim said - I get why they did it. To go back and read Dick's articles when the series first came out, you really get the feeling that they were much more selective about what got released. In fact, I think I read that Phil was very heavily involved for the first several releases, and by involved I mean he basically yes'd this and no'd that.
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Funny.. I listened to 10/31/71 this afternoon doing some finish work on my never ending master bathroom. I just got in the mood. This is a great release, but doing work that takes time did make me realize just how short it is.. The talk of Selland Arena last week got me revisiting Dave's Picks 17, 7/19/74. I decided to hit some of the neglected 74 releases, DP 12 among them. Serendipitous I guess.
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If I had to choose between the three releases I mentioned, one of the FW69 shows and just one of the E72 shows OR the entire catalog from the 80s and 90s (released and unreleased), I would take the former all day long. No questions asked. Yup. Those five over all the rest of it. And I purchased the TTATS box set for the '84 show alone.
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