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    "We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

    We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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  • JimInMD
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    Agree on more mini boxes and less monster boxes. I can only assume Boxzilla was a vast and hugely successful conspiracy orchestrated by a divorce attorney think tank and lobbying group in DC.
  • kyleharmon
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    I myself would prefer one box
    I myself would prefer one box set a year. because we all pretty much spent roughly 300 dollars in one year for a dave's picks sub, get shown the light and RFK. honestly I would prefer more mini box sets like RFK. the bigger they are the less likely I can get one and then i'm at the mercy of someone sending me digital an ALAC copy like with 30 Trips and Europe '72. and its not like I'm sitting around mooching off people I have bought every box set barring winterland '77 and and subscribed to to Dave's Picks since Dave's 13. but you know I cant buy them all. I don't know if I can get the one this year or not cuz if it costs more than the $160 bucks I have saved from holiday gift money I'm flat out fucked. I keep my box sets in the original mail box they come in even if they are gathering dust because computers can crash and external hard drives can get wiped out. which I would be crestfallen cuz my 30 Trips is all digital and it took me a whole summer and fall to get those.
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    I buy these releases for the skeletons with beards. This thread seems to be suffering from a multi-personality disorder at the moment, which is fine. I am drawn to the anniversary hype and what these shows do to the ears and minds of the beholders. I am mildly amused by some of the rest. I'm half tempted to steer the conversation to something less controversial like religious cults and why you should join one now, family planning techniques or Hitler, the worlds greatest philanthropist. Softer topics that warm the heart. Good stuff mostly.. it is all about the music and I guess the culture fun and prankish comradery. What a great month for GD History. Edit: Oh, love Dicks Picks 28.. it's another great twofer. I wonder if I will still be alive when this comes out on vinyl?
  • Mind-Left-Body
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    I agree people like us will continue to get our Dave's Picks subscriptions and new box sets whether they re-release the old stuff or not. But the resellers would stop buying in bulk quantity if all of the releases are just going to be re-issued in a few years. That's why Dick's Picks are not nearly as expensive on ebay. And re-issues do hurt resellers. Just look at how much the original Road Trips came down in price on ebay, after Real Gone started selling the re-issues. So for example if Dave's Picks started being re-issued by Real Gone, the 18,000 Dave's Picks manufactured is not going to maintain those quick sellouts, or continue to grow (I think somebody said 33% since 2012). Resellers probably account for at least 25% of the overall Dave's Picks sales. Rhino isn't going to rock that boat for 10K in old Fillmore West sets. Get shown the light - that's the instance where they basically screwed the resellers on the "limited edition" sales pitch, by releasing the exact same set a week later, but with no book. They do that enough times, the resellers will wise up, and then maybe it's only one box set a year. Yikes. So I'm fine with resellers. It stokes overall sales and keeps my new Dead tunes coming El rapido.
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    Totally agree Dave. The end of this show sets it on fire. This Dew has always hit me. Jer takes it to the next level. Love the way the guitar sets the mood at the end. Jerry’s guitar had wings and this one takes off. It continues into the sugar mag and he’s totally into the bid you goodnight so is Phil. Just a cool show. 45 years ago tonight.
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    In defense of the Jefferson Airplane, I'd say that they actually did plenty of jamming in comparison to most of the other bands from around that time and place, with some songs that almost always went over 10-12 min, and several other examples of even longer improv jams etc. The Airplane also changed up their setlists, adding new songs and covers more often than alot of other groups. The airplane also had songs (Dresses too short, Bear Melt, Mau Mau etc) that they would often stretch out in a rave up style similar to Turn on Your Lovelight. They for sure weren't the Dead, but most those bands like Country Joe, Quicksilver, the Blues Project, It's a Beautiful Day etc did some occasional extended jams. Unfortunately one often has to seek out, obtain and be willing to listen to actual bootlegs/audience recordings of full shows to hear alot of these unique jams and extended versions, because there aren't alot of specific examples of them on youtube (you can find some full shows) or through official releases(there's not alot available). Songs I'd recommend for longer airplane jams would be 'Other side of this life', 'Ballad of Pooneil', 'Thing', 'Fat Angel', 'Wooden Ships', and you can also find some good ones that are just entitled "jam". Here's a example of the Airplane jamming a song live in 1968, which is my favorite year for them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmS0KD2QwKc And here is a great jam with Jerry and the Airplane and some members from Santana's percussion line, possibly Mickey as well. Jerry really taps into that 69 Dark Star sound at various points which sounds unique in this context, with Jorma really propeling the jam and taking some great lead spots. There are distinct sections and its all improvised. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9xcGJrf-Q8
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    February 28, 1973http://gratefuldeadoftheday.com/02-28-1973 Salt Palace Salt Lake City, Utah While there is much that is very good in here, including a wonderful TLEO and He's Gone in the first set, other parts do not quite seem to reach the outer limits that we know the band is capable of. For instance, the Sugaree is good but not earth-shattering. And, the China> Rider, despite a funky little jam before the transition, does not plumb the full depths of those two tunes. The second set of this show ends with Promised Land, Truckin'> Other One> Eyes> Morning Dew, Sugar Magnolia and then a We Bid You Goodnight encore. Sadly, none of the recordings that are out there seem to capture the entirety of it with the exception, of course, of Dick's Picks Volume 28. Even with the Dick's Picks, you still need to lay your hands on the album because those missing tunes are "album only" on the MP3 download off Amazon. The Dick's Picks is definitely worth hunting down as it is those last few tunes that turn this into something truly special that, I imagine, made Dick Latvala want to send it out into the world from the Vault.
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    2/28/73 morning dew. Get some. Still one of my favorites
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    yeah icecream I buy mine
    yeah icecream I buy mine because I want the music as well. i'm totally fine with reissuing stuff so it can get back out there. if that means re sellers cant sell it for a jacked up price *shrugs*. I mean people trade out and make copies of out of print stuff all the time so good luck unloading a box set for thousands of dollars only cuz it has backstage pass reprints..that are stickers..or a pin. reprinting limited things wont stop sales for dave's picks or box sets. cuz deadheads out there will buy any thing that's associated with the band, case in point Merl Saunders & and Jerry Garcia Band at the Vogue in Indianapolis...and people are going to that lmao. I didn't care that get shown the light had a music only version after the limited edition sold out. because holy shit the big four was out. and the only thing that makes it a "collectors item" was a book...that you can buy individually at amazon. and there are copies of the limited get shown the light sold for high prices. when you can just go purchase the music only version and then go to amazon and buy the book. it's called Cornell '77: The Music, The Myth, and the Magnificence of Grateful Dead's Concert at Barton Hall right now for 17 bucks.
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    I buy these releases for the music, which sounds better than the torrent copies if available, and to have it pressed on a thin film of metal.Future value never factors into the purchasing decision. I want the music. Resellers, scalpers, speculators will be pissed off if a ‘Limited Editon’ is re-released. Fans of the music will rejoice. How many people here would not subscribe to Dave’s Picks 2019 or 2020 if FW69 was remastered and released? Probably a few resellers, but not all of them. As long as I can afford it, I will keep buying these releases, Limited or unlimited.
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"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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I like your idea of having the two series running concurrently. Exactly as you describe really,-Daves Picks as is, with Road Trips being subscription only, featuring partial shows or less well recorded ones for those who want to hear them. Seems like an everyone wins situation to me, too.
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So then, it follows logically that pulling up a 90s show and jumping straight to I Will Take You Home is like skipping the foreplay and the sex and jumping straight to the awkward "Yea . . . I'm not really looking for a relationship right now."
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Nugs.net has just about every show Dead & Co have ever played available in MP3, lossless, or physical CD. I'm sure the Riviera Run will be available also. They might even have a pre-order deal going (but I haven't looked)
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DiP12 (June '74 with the amazing Chinacat pre-jam) is absolutely on my desert island 5, along with 2/27/69, 11/7/71, 5/10/72, 10/19/73, 10/9/76, 10/29/77, 11/29/80, 10/9/89, and 3/22/90. That's my 5 ;) I generally prefer complete shows, but partials make a TON of sense in many situations: - Some shows have a weak first set, but set 2 shines - rarely is an entire show "must-hear", especially in later years. - Some reels didn't fully survive - i.e.: Didn't one of the Utica NY March '73 shows have a 1st set that was too damaged to save, but both 2nd sets survived? - Many shows (see 1973) can handle a little fat-trimming, esp. first set. My fav partials combine 2 shows into one release, i.e.: Road Trips '88: disc 1 = first set highlights, discs 2 & 3 = second sets. I could see some show pairs getting similar treatment, maybe 9/7 & 9/8/73, 10/1 & 10/2/77, or 10/29 & 10/30/73.... But the "Fall '77 Road Trips" is so Frankenstein-fragmented that you lose the context, and it likely precludes those shows from full release. Note that they're not releasing unrelated filler anymore as they use bonus discs to complete full shows. The longer they focus on complete shows, the more partials they have with with no outlet.
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So it was the 40th Anniversary of McArthur Court-University Of Oregon-Eugene, OR 1/22/78 last night. Close encounters...indeed. So I figured I'd do it up right and pop a blot about 8PM. I started the show (listening to the Dave's Picks 23 version of course) bout an hour later and what a blast!!! Man, from Cobo Hall on 11/1/77 all the way into May of '78 the Dead were in seriously ferocious rockin' territory....Garcia just shreds and the solo jam in "Jack Straw" got so freakin' muscular it's almost to the level of full-blown hard rock at times. The energy level of gigs like 11/5 and 6/77, 12/27 and 12/29 and 12/31/77, 1/11 and 1/12/78, 1/17/78, 1/22/78, 2/3/78, 2/5/78, 4/16/78, 4/22/78, 4/24/78, 5/7/78, 5/10 and 11/78, and of course the magic of July '78 (and the insanity of 12/30 and 12/31/78) is simply out of sight!!! I just love the go for broke, sometimes raucous to the point of over the top vibe of this period. So I was pretty spaced by half way through Set 1 of 1/22/78 last night and by the time I hit "Jack Straw" I was up and dancing around my apt. The way they all just shout "Jack Straw from Wichita cut his buddy down" after Jerry's raging strumming seriously brought tears of joy to my eyes. I'll admit I love everything about 1/22/78, have since the first time I heard it years ago. But being in that special state of mind can really turn things up to 11 (as the Spinal Tap boys would say). By Set 2 I was just enough in the void to really let the band take over and just lead the way. One of my favorite single sets of Dead music, as always I heard many new things (at least I think I did), and by the end of the show I mentally felt wiped out, in a good way. Not that beginning to come down introspective melancholy I and many others have so often experienced. After Disc 3 stopped I just sat and "recovered" in total silence for about 20 minutes. The sheer reverence and love I have for the Grateful Dead keeps my faith in humanity alive. They weren't afraid of the darkness and were always shooting for the light. 40 years later 1/22/78 has lost NONE of its power regardless of what state of mind you're in. But oh man, what a blast!!! Now it's gettin' on crash out time. Just hope I can be awake enough to listen to 1/23/70 (Dave's 19) later on tonight. It isn't going to involve the additional cosmic power boost of last night's trip, but then again one can't go exploring that way EVERY day... But I know personally I did justice and paid the proper homage to the 40th Anniversary of 1/22/78 last night and it was damn fine. Thanks for puttin' on one helluva show guys!!!!
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How about a big ass Box of partial shows? Jim, good luck this spring hunting for morels, hope you have a big harvest. Would hate to have to say that Row Jimmy in MD has no morels. :) Maybe you can get a dog to sniff them out. I say, my dog has no nose. No nose? How does he smell morels? Jealous of the fun Evilyn had last night......
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Shipping notice just received. DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 (wrapped in a Rosy View of the Harvest Moon Rising over Binghamton as seen from inside a Cornucopia as Two Souls in Communion sashay over a Golden Road reflected off of the confluence of the of the Susquehanna and Chenango Rivers with a serenade of Leaping Smallmouth arching past plus the Washington Street Bridge, Roses and token Ears of Corn thrown in for good measure) IS ON THE WAY! (Nice job Tim!)
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No shipping notice here, but for some reason lately I've been getting the actual CD before getting the shipping note, so hoping that's the case here as well....
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Without fail, itll show up at my doorstep before the shipping email haha
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I'm personally counting on the alpacas and Sherpas to guide my DaP25 safely through the mountainous regions of Nepal prior to it landing via passenger pigeon on my doorstep, which will all occur approximately three days prior to the receipt of the 'Shipping Notice' email. Glad these are hitting the road to Heads. Sixtus
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My question since i have yet to get the email either. Is, is it comming smartpost?
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I have yet to hear this one, looking forward to it. The liquid lightshow sun on the cover art looks great. As for complete shows vs Best of mixes, I prefer the complete shows and even would like for the tuning and pauses between tunes to be included. I would also add that the great best of releases would be even better IMO if they included what was cut. Last 5 1. The Electrifying Sounds Of The Paul Jeffrey Quintet 2. Wee Tam and The Big Huge - Incredible String Band 3. Tiny Tim Breaks the World Professional Non-Stop Singing Record 1988 4. Blue Incantation - Sanjay Mishra FT Jerry 5. Roky and the Aliens (1980)
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evilyn2003@hotm... said: "A collection dealing strictly with Ned Lagin and "Seastones" would also be rad!" if i recall correctly, the 1974 tour of 'ned and phil' sets comes out to something like 9 or 10 CDs? that would make for a nice box set. NedBase http://nedbase.blogspot.com/ has a listing of those shows. meanwhile, the new two CD 'seastones' album is coming out shortly. you can read more about it at ned lagin's site Spiritcats http://spiritcats.com/ and click through the MUSIC link. I-) ihor
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. . . and I thought that's a full harvest moon in keeping with the autumn show date. Even convinced myself I saw shadings of lunar “seas” and craters. Nice “liquid lightshow sun" interpretation Mr.Dc. Oh well, nothing some of evilyn2003’s blotter couldn’t clear up nicely. Hope tonight’s encore of 1/23/70 hits the spot evilyn! . . . and hope Ned gets the new re-mixed, remastered 2-CD edition of Seastones released at some point, although I’ve been watching that “space” on spiritcats for a while and haven’t seen any updates for probably two years. There’s also mention of an even more ambitious set of Seastones CDs “ to be released later.” Twould be rad indeed! Maybe there's some behind the scenes collaboration going on with Ned and GD and Rhino or somebody. . .
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I haven't received an e-mail confirming shipping and sent an email to customer service and I've heard nothing. I have hope seeing the rest of the comments on here but I would really like to know. All I do know is that 3 people broke into my hotel room disguised as hotel employees. They proceeded to eat all my food, drink all my booze, and did all my drugs. If security does not get better I will have to seek higher accommodations. It's a pretty sad state of affairs when you have to go to breakfast with a razor sharp hunting knife.
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Jim and Bolo forced me to come with them.
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Delivery is the first Black Can't steam snow We were at this point; there should be angels dancing on a pin. Thank you for a real good time Grease is good for one's constitution Pocket pule hammers that 8 ball. These are the days between
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Just bought the 30 Trips Around the Sun Box Set. 30 shows. 80 CDs. 5 keyboard players. No Weather Report Suite.
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They only played WRS for 14 months, from September 73 through October 74. Great sequence, it just wasn't played for the two shows they played during that period, SD 73 and Dijon 74. There's a couple Let It Grows in the box: Lakeland FL 1980 Riverbend 1985 Luck of the draw I guess.
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Thanks for the info Charlie3. That is awesome news. In addition to Philly 82 show, I am also eager to purchase that 5/15/70 show! That is a tremendous show that I need!
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That is a killer show and one of my favorites from the 30 Trips box, just listened to it again recently. Good Darkstar, and I always like hearing Doin' That Rag. Since the 30 Trips box came out I have listened to the shows from '69, '70, '71, '72, '73, and '75 more frequently than anything else from the box. Today I revisited DaP 19, the last pick with a Darkstar, after noticing someone on here mention that the anniversary of the show was today. Hit the spot. Really looking forward to getting DaP 25 so I can give it a listen and check out the cover art up close.
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jackstrawberry, yeah, I am glad to see the series reissued and am looking forward to picking up that 5/15/70 show. I also missed the release with the Denver '73 show, and will be picking that up in a couple of weeks when it comes out as you can never have too much '73 Dead. Come to think of it, you can never have to much Jerry from '73 either, particularly those Keystone recordings with Merl Saunders. smokeyjoe751 - dig the post.
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Gimme the instrumental "Prelude" only ala the magnificent DaP 21 and/or "LiG>Drums>LiG" post-hiatus '76 era. Hold the "Suite" please. Lyrics always make me cringe.
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a new username just to respond to libertycaps97211. My friend, how can you say that about WRS? In many instances, the main "instrumental" part i.e. the "JAM!" part comes AFTER the prelude and LIG "suite" lyrics. Go right now and listen to my fav WRS, 12/18/73. Or if you prefer, listen to Road Trips 2.3, 6/18/74 (my second fav WRS). Take your pick, but there is soooo much more happening after the prelude, I fear you have been severely misinformed. No offense. Peace.
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I am going to listen to both myself, right now. So thank you for that ;)
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Welcome back from your coma.:)
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nice post evilyn! A few months before it was announced, I listened to Eugene and I was FLOORED, again, by the Not Fade Away. It's loud and powerful, it's soft and nuanced, it's everything special about the band at that time. Amazing musical dialog, signature gigantic searching effort and creativity during an already blazing hot set. Woofers and tweeters and doubters take cover!
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I have always received the release before getting the shipping email. I am sure this time will be no different.
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Over the years I have noticed that here in New York City my shipping notice is usually received later than other U.S areas. Likewise, and naturally, I tended to receive my Dave's quite later too, but, it always arrives. So I am not worried. Of course our European friends have to be very, very patient and are usually "shaken down" for $ from their respective postal officials. The color scheme on this one is very, hmm, hypnotic, for me anyway.
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A lot of talk about Dick's Picks 12 so I decided to give it a listen...its been a few years. Definitely some great stuff on there but it barely feels like a Grateful Dead show. I didn't mind this being a compilation when I first bought it years ago, just like I didn't mind Europe 72 & Live/Dead being compilations, but I guess I've heard too many complete shows at this point and its just easier to tell the difference. I will say though, it seems, most compilations are set up to feel like one show but Dick's 12 is far from it. One Sugar Magnolia per release please. Edit/PS: I'm glad this was released and I will buy anything that is released (other than the best of's) ...just saying its a lot more fun to listen to a complete show, warts & all, and imagine I was there.
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Ha.. that's funny. I have to think this issue is pretty much resolved. They will release complete shows to the extent they can. One day they will attend to some of the fragments that need to see daylight in some way that hopefully will be tasteful and make most people mostly happy.
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Amazed to see a shipping email grace my inbox today. Doesnt look like itll be here by friday though, unless its some seriously fast shipping. Either way, grateful day (just like the last)
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I have had my copy for days however haven’t opened it until the release so I don’t have to add all of the song titles. I concur with other of us in the community that it is time to move past 1977 release irrespective of the fact I was at all of the east coast 77 shows. They were great but variance from one show to the next was not huge (vis-a-vis 72 versus 77). I hope that Dave gets the message and finds some gems, like RFK 1973 with the Allmans, and give us some added variety.
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Well, speak of the devil, just after my no-ship-email-post and along came my shipment email notice! Good news.
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Speaking of the force of fast shipping -- my delivery date was just shifted from Saturday to tomorrow. Oh, Happy Hump Day! Nothing left to do now but smile, smile, smile...
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Hey all, After they finally arrive, I will have 2 extra and unopened 25's to trade if anyone would be interested. I would prefer to trade for unopened copies of either 22 or 23, or any other previous volumes for that matter, other than 20 and 24. Please message me if you are interested. Thanks
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Just wanted to share a sweet picture my daughter made for me!! If i knew how to post a picture on this!!! Please help!
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If you can get it on the web somewhere.. you can post it. I don't know how you can post it from your PC.
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DaP 25 left Tennessee at 7:25 AM on the 22nd. Just arrived in Fontana, CA at noon today, heading to Las Vegas. At this rate, Dave's is going to beat the Kessel run in under 12 parsecs....
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I’ve tried many times to post a picture on this site and have never succeeded. Always tried while using an iPhone or iPad, so I assumed that it was only possible using a computer. Jim constantly succeeds at posting videos and shirdeep succeeds at posting pix. Don’t know why I consistently fail. What’s the secret Jim and shirdeep? Please do tell. Can’t believe that Casey Jones doesn’t want to trade for DaP20. That’s like the holy grail.
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