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    "We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

    We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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    Sorta... https://www.amazon.co.uk/Grateful-Dead-Anthem-Anniversary-Deluxe/dp/B07… Release date was listed as 7/13/18 before being edited. Sounds like the timeline for 2018 will be: 1. Mid-April: DaP26 goes on sale. 2. End of May: Anthem of the Sun preorder. 3. June: Box announcement for a Fall Release. I think this for several reasons. First, we had two small boxes last year, so it’s more like ly to be a year end release, in order to space out the sets. Second, it’s probably going to be a larger than usual set. They’ve gone small for the last 3 sets, and these are usually announced earlier in the year. We’re due for a large box. The 30 Trips, Spring 90, and Europe 72 sets have all been Fall Releases with Summer announcements. 4. July: DaP 27 announced
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    ...to those thrilling days of yesteryear. Brought to you by a "self-professed member of the Grateful Dead Sixties Syndicate" April 1, 1967 http://gratefuldeadoftheday.com/04-01-1967 KMPX Radio San Francisco, California This is one of the coolest thing out there in that it is a free form radio program with Jerry and Phil as the guests. It is all part of Tom "Big Daddy" Donahue's progressive radio program on KMPX, which was the birthplace of underground radio back in the 60s. Jerry, Phil, and Tom spend about two hours playing their favorite tunes and talking, both earnestly and humorously, about music and all sorts of other things. Not only are Phil and Jerry hysterical, but you also get such an incredible insight into both the time period and Phil and Jerry's sense of music. It is also so neat to hear the two of them get so pumped because they had a gig out in New York City. But, really, there are dozens of other nuggets like that in the recording. This is absolutely not to be missed! This was aired sometime in April 1967, but not necessarily on this date.
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    Please tell us ordering this box has been fixed! No more endleessly filling a shopping cart with no option for shipping, wondering if I ordered the box 30 times or not a all, no more making my wife witness a grown man gothrough the seven stages of grief repeatedly at lightning speed as a website keeps crashing. I don't even care what the box is I just want one. When is Dave gonna offer a preffered customer Dead.net only pre-sale?...just make sure im on the list.
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    Ha! Ha! Ha! from a "self-professed Grateful Dead 70's mafia" type *guy.* http://gratefuldeadoftheday.com/04-01-1991 The music is so good, we just have to return again to 1991 at the Greensboro Coliseum for our Dead of the Day, finishing off the two-night run that we started yesterday. The sound is just as light and airy as the day before, but with more purpose. Bobby sounds more involved and, at times, he keeps a bit of a faster rhythm, which seems to have an effect on everyone else. The Jack Straw opener is solid, but the boys really get going with the Peggy-O, with Jerry leading the way on vocals and guitar. Candyman and Bird Song - an epic one - are also first set highlights. However, as you might have guessed looking at the setlist, the real fireworks come out in the second half. The set-opening China> Rider is fabulous, just unbelievable, particularly the Rider. The jam in the Rider is so solid, but on top of that you have Jerry using some sort of strings section MIDI for part of it. That softer sound allows Bruce to be heard more clearly, opening a space for him to jam alongside Jerry, which, as you might expect, ends fantastically. In the LLRain that follows, Jerry continues playing profoundly. The version also has a little bit of Bobby vocal cheese, including an incredible echo effect at one point that was probably caused by Healy, in one of his better interventions. Then, after teasing it the night before, the Dark Star finally comes out. Given that they start off noodling on the theme, though, it would be several minutes before anyone could be absolutely certain the band was going fully into the tune. Even once they get into the first verse, the boys are still playing in a desultory fashion, warming to the music and drawing in the crowd. Slowly, the jam takes on more and more form, building an intricate lattice of splendor and glory. By the time they leave the stage to the drummers, things have entered into a seriously weird realm somewhere in the outer reaches of the galaxy. Drums and Space takes things out even further into worlds unknown before briefly returning to the lusciousness of Dark Star. Then, the boys finish off some more business from the night before, almost stumbling into a short Playing reprise. The rest of the set is good too, though the Lovelight is far too short. The Dead played seven shows at the Greensboro Coliseum over the years, and this, sadly, was the last one. They certainly went out on a high note though, with this sweet little two-show run that is a real highlight of spring 1991. The coliseum itself opened in 1959. Its original seating capacity of 23,000 made it one of the largest indoor venues in the South. The Monkees headlined the first major concert at the venue, and Richard Nixon visited during his failed 1960 presidential campaign. Along with one of my favorite shows: 1 April 1988 (and a portion of 31/03/88) which escaped from the GD Vault disguised as "Road Trips, Vol. 4., No. 2 APRIL FOOLS 88" on 1 February 2011. A 3 disc set. http://gratefuldeadoftheday.com/04-01-1988 As for the 70's, especially 1970 thru '75, the television series, "The Wonder Years" come to mind. My own personal "wonder years" were '68 thru '75. They were cool!
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    ....I have beenhttps://mobile.twitter.com/twitter/statuses/980308476873261061 ....nasty as a Garcia Caution riff. Beauty takes shape in many forms. Savor them when you can...
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    Did somebody mention Buddy Cage? Don't even get me started.. what a talent.. amazing. I have been seeing them [NRPS] whenever I get the chance for years.. Until David Nelson broke his hip and Buddy got his blood cancer diagnosis they were playing each year in Thomas WV, sort of local to the middle of nowhere town I blissfully live in.. I even took my 79 year old dad one year. He thought it was a hoot.. but the strong smell of kind bud in the bar during set break evoked questions that were hard to dodge until the second set came to be.. reminded me a bit of getting busted doing bong hits in the basement when I was in high school all those years earlier.. but I digress.. and to my fathers defense, all is forgiven and the once staunch republican is now a bit of a liberal when it comes to pot laws, he wants it legal too.. everywhere and does not understand why they still lock people up for it.. anyway... But back to Buddy Cage (and David Nelson for that matter).. Don't get me started.. the guy smoked and will forever have my respect. Thanks Muleskinner for the mere mention and the memories evoked. David Nelson is another powerhouse.. and apparently the David Nelson Band is back up and going. David has apparently recovered from his broken or fractured hip from a year or so ago.
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"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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I like your idea of having the two series running concurrently. Exactly as you describe really,-Daves Picks as is, with Road Trips being subscription only, featuring partial shows or less well recorded ones for those who want to hear them. Seems like an everyone wins situation to me, too.
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So then, it follows logically that pulling up a 90s show and jumping straight to I Will Take You Home is like skipping the foreplay and the sex and jumping straight to the awkward "Yea . . . I'm not really looking for a relationship right now."
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Nugs.net has just about every show Dead & Co have ever played available in MP3, lossless, or physical CD. I'm sure the Riviera Run will be available also. They might even have a pre-order deal going (but I haven't looked)
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DiP12 (June '74 with the amazing Chinacat pre-jam) is absolutely on my desert island 5, along with 2/27/69, 11/7/71, 5/10/72, 10/19/73, 10/9/76, 10/29/77, 11/29/80, 10/9/89, and 3/22/90. That's my 5 ;) I generally prefer complete shows, but partials make a TON of sense in many situations: - Some shows have a weak first set, but set 2 shines - rarely is an entire show "must-hear", especially in later years. - Some reels didn't fully survive - i.e.: Didn't one of the Utica NY March '73 shows have a 1st set that was too damaged to save, but both 2nd sets survived? - Many shows (see 1973) can handle a little fat-trimming, esp. first set. My fav partials combine 2 shows into one release, i.e.: Road Trips '88: disc 1 = first set highlights, discs 2 & 3 = second sets. I could see some show pairs getting similar treatment, maybe 9/7 & 9/8/73, 10/1 & 10/2/77, or 10/29 & 10/30/73.... But the "Fall '77 Road Trips" is so Frankenstein-fragmented that you lose the context, and it likely precludes those shows from full release. Note that they're not releasing unrelated filler anymore as they use bonus discs to complete full shows. The longer they focus on complete shows, the more partials they have with with no outlet.
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So it was the 40th Anniversary of McArthur Court-University Of Oregon-Eugene, OR 1/22/78 last night. Close encounters...indeed. So I figured I'd do it up right and pop a blot about 8PM. I started the show (listening to the Dave's Picks 23 version of course) bout an hour later and what a blast!!! Man, from Cobo Hall on 11/1/77 all the way into May of '78 the Dead were in seriously ferocious rockin' territory....Garcia just shreds and the solo jam in "Jack Straw" got so freakin' muscular it's almost to the level of full-blown hard rock at times. The energy level of gigs like 11/5 and 6/77, 12/27 and 12/29 and 12/31/77, 1/11 and 1/12/78, 1/17/78, 1/22/78, 2/3/78, 2/5/78, 4/16/78, 4/22/78, 4/24/78, 5/7/78, 5/10 and 11/78, and of course the magic of July '78 (and the insanity of 12/30 and 12/31/78) is simply out of sight!!! I just love the go for broke, sometimes raucous to the point of over the top vibe of this period. So I was pretty spaced by half way through Set 1 of 1/22/78 last night and by the time I hit "Jack Straw" I was up and dancing around my apt. The way they all just shout "Jack Straw from Wichita cut his buddy down" after Jerry's raging strumming seriously brought tears of joy to my eyes. I'll admit I love everything about 1/22/78, have since the first time I heard it years ago. But being in that special state of mind can really turn things up to 11 (as the Spinal Tap boys would say). By Set 2 I was just enough in the void to really let the band take over and just lead the way. One of my favorite single sets of Dead music, as always I heard many new things (at least I think I did), and by the end of the show I mentally felt wiped out, in a good way. Not that beginning to come down introspective melancholy I and many others have so often experienced. After Disc 3 stopped I just sat and "recovered" in total silence for about 20 minutes. The sheer reverence and love I have for the Grateful Dead keeps my faith in humanity alive. They weren't afraid of the darkness and were always shooting for the light. 40 years later 1/22/78 has lost NONE of its power regardless of what state of mind you're in. But oh man, what a blast!!! Now it's gettin' on crash out time. Just hope I can be awake enough to listen to 1/23/70 (Dave's 19) later on tonight. It isn't going to involve the additional cosmic power boost of last night's trip, but then again one can't go exploring that way EVERY day... But I know personally I did justice and paid the proper homage to the 40th Anniversary of 1/22/78 last night and it was damn fine. Thanks for puttin' on one helluva show guys!!!!
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How about a big ass Box of partial shows? Jim, good luck this spring hunting for morels, hope you have a big harvest. Would hate to have to say that Row Jimmy in MD has no morels. :) Maybe you can get a dog to sniff them out. I say, my dog has no nose. No nose? How does he smell morels? Jealous of the fun Evilyn had last night......
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Shipping notice just received. DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 (wrapped in a Rosy View of the Harvest Moon Rising over Binghamton as seen from inside a Cornucopia as Two Souls in Communion sashay over a Golden Road reflected off of the confluence of the of the Susquehanna and Chenango Rivers with a serenade of Leaping Smallmouth arching past plus the Washington Street Bridge, Roses and token Ears of Corn thrown in for good measure) IS ON THE WAY! (Nice job Tim!)
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No shipping notice here, but for some reason lately I've been getting the actual CD before getting the shipping note, so hoping that's the case here as well....
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Without fail, itll show up at my doorstep before the shipping email haha
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I'm personally counting on the alpacas and Sherpas to guide my DaP25 safely through the mountainous regions of Nepal prior to it landing via passenger pigeon on my doorstep, which will all occur approximately three days prior to the receipt of the 'Shipping Notice' email. Glad these are hitting the road to Heads. Sixtus
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My question since i have yet to get the email either. Is, is it comming smartpost?
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I have yet to hear this one, looking forward to it. The liquid lightshow sun on the cover art looks great. As for complete shows vs Best of mixes, I prefer the complete shows and even would like for the tuning and pauses between tunes to be included. I would also add that the great best of releases would be even better IMO if they included what was cut. Last 5 1. The Electrifying Sounds Of The Paul Jeffrey Quintet 2. Wee Tam and The Big Huge - Incredible String Band 3. Tiny Tim Breaks the World Professional Non-Stop Singing Record 1988 4. Blue Incantation - Sanjay Mishra FT Jerry 5. Roky and the Aliens (1980)
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evilyn2003@hotm... said: "A collection dealing strictly with Ned Lagin and "Seastones" would also be rad!" if i recall correctly, the 1974 tour of 'ned and phil' sets comes out to something like 9 or 10 CDs? that would make for a nice box set. NedBase http://nedbase.blogspot.com/ has a listing of those shows. meanwhile, the new two CD 'seastones' album is coming out shortly. you can read more about it at ned lagin's site Spiritcats http://spiritcats.com/ and click through the MUSIC link. I-) ihor
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. . . and I thought that's a full harvest moon in keeping with the autumn show date. Even convinced myself I saw shadings of lunar “seas” and craters. Nice “liquid lightshow sun" interpretation Mr.Dc. Oh well, nothing some of evilyn2003’s blotter couldn’t clear up nicely. Hope tonight’s encore of 1/23/70 hits the spot evilyn! . . . and hope Ned gets the new re-mixed, remastered 2-CD edition of Seastones released at some point, although I’ve been watching that “space” on spiritcats for a while and haven’t seen any updates for probably two years. There’s also mention of an even more ambitious set of Seastones CDs “ to be released later.” Twould be rad indeed! Maybe there's some behind the scenes collaboration going on with Ned and GD and Rhino or somebody. . .
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I haven't received an e-mail confirming shipping and sent an email to customer service and I've heard nothing. I have hope seeing the rest of the comments on here but I would really like to know. All I do know is that 3 people broke into my hotel room disguised as hotel employees. They proceeded to eat all my food, drink all my booze, and did all my drugs. If security does not get better I will have to seek higher accommodations. It's a pretty sad state of affairs when you have to go to breakfast with a razor sharp hunting knife.
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Jim and Bolo forced me to come with them.
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Delivery is the first Black Can't steam snow We were at this point; there should be angels dancing on a pin. Thank you for a real good time Grease is good for one's constitution Pocket pule hammers that 8 ball. These are the days between
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Just bought the 30 Trips Around the Sun Box Set. 30 shows. 80 CDs. 5 keyboard players. No Weather Report Suite.
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They only played WRS for 14 months, from September 73 through October 74. Great sequence, it just wasn't played for the two shows they played during that period, SD 73 and Dijon 74. There's a couple Let It Grows in the box: Lakeland FL 1980 Riverbend 1985 Luck of the draw I guess.
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Thanks for the info Charlie3. That is awesome news. In addition to Philly 82 show, I am also eager to purchase that 5/15/70 show! That is a tremendous show that I need!
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That is a killer show and one of my favorites from the 30 Trips box, just listened to it again recently. Good Darkstar, and I always like hearing Doin' That Rag. Since the 30 Trips box came out I have listened to the shows from '69, '70, '71, '72, '73, and '75 more frequently than anything else from the box. Today I revisited DaP 19, the last pick with a Darkstar, after noticing someone on here mention that the anniversary of the show was today. Hit the spot. Really looking forward to getting DaP 25 so I can give it a listen and check out the cover art up close.
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jackstrawberry, yeah, I am glad to see the series reissued and am looking forward to picking up that 5/15/70 show. I also missed the release with the Denver '73 show, and will be picking that up in a couple of weeks when it comes out as you can never have too much '73 Dead. Come to think of it, you can never have to much Jerry from '73 either, particularly those Keystone recordings with Merl Saunders. smokeyjoe751 - dig the post.
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Gimme the instrumental "Prelude" only ala the magnificent DaP 21 and/or "LiG>Drums>LiG" post-hiatus '76 era. Hold the "Suite" please. Lyrics always make me cringe.
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a new username just to respond to libertycaps97211. My friend, how can you say that about WRS? In many instances, the main "instrumental" part i.e. the "JAM!" part comes AFTER the prelude and LIG "suite" lyrics. Go right now and listen to my fav WRS, 12/18/73. Or if you prefer, listen to Road Trips 2.3, 6/18/74 (my second fav WRS). Take your pick, but there is soooo much more happening after the prelude, I fear you have been severely misinformed. No offense. Peace.
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I am going to listen to both myself, right now. So thank you for that ;)
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Welcome back from your coma.:)
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nice post evilyn! A few months before it was announced, I listened to Eugene and I was FLOORED, again, by the Not Fade Away. It's loud and powerful, it's soft and nuanced, it's everything special about the band at that time. Amazing musical dialog, signature gigantic searching effort and creativity during an already blazing hot set. Woofers and tweeters and doubters take cover!
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I have always received the release before getting the shipping email. I am sure this time will be no different.
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Over the years I have noticed that here in New York City my shipping notice is usually received later than other U.S areas. Likewise, and naturally, I tended to receive my Dave's quite later too, but, it always arrives. So I am not worried. Of course our European friends have to be very, very patient and are usually "shaken down" for $ from their respective postal officials. The color scheme on this one is very, hmm, hypnotic, for me anyway.
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A lot of talk about Dick's Picks 12 so I decided to give it a listen...its been a few years. Definitely some great stuff on there but it barely feels like a Grateful Dead show. I didn't mind this being a compilation when I first bought it years ago, just like I didn't mind Europe 72 & Live/Dead being compilations, but I guess I've heard too many complete shows at this point and its just easier to tell the difference. I will say though, it seems, most compilations are set up to feel like one show but Dick's 12 is far from it. One Sugar Magnolia per release please. Edit/PS: I'm glad this was released and I will buy anything that is released (other than the best of's) ...just saying its a lot more fun to listen to a complete show, warts & all, and imagine I was there.
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Ha.. that's funny. I have to think this issue is pretty much resolved. They will release complete shows to the extent they can. One day they will attend to some of the fragments that need to see daylight in some way that hopefully will be tasteful and make most people mostly happy.
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Amazed to see a shipping email grace my inbox today. Doesnt look like itll be here by friday though, unless its some seriously fast shipping. Either way, grateful day (just like the last)
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I have had my copy for days however haven’t opened it until the release so I don’t have to add all of the song titles. I concur with other of us in the community that it is time to move past 1977 release irrespective of the fact I was at all of the east coast 77 shows. They were great but variance from one show to the next was not huge (vis-a-vis 72 versus 77). I hope that Dave gets the message and finds some gems, like RFK 1973 with the Allmans, and give us some added variety.
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Well, speak of the devil, just after my no-ship-email-post and along came my shipment email notice! Good news.
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Speaking of the force of fast shipping -- my delivery date was just shifted from Saturday to tomorrow. Oh, Happy Hump Day! Nothing left to do now but smile, smile, smile...
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Hey all, After they finally arrive, I will have 2 extra and unopened 25's to trade if anyone would be interested. I would prefer to trade for unopened copies of either 22 or 23, or any other previous volumes for that matter, other than 20 and 24. Please message me if you are interested. Thanks
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Just wanted to share a sweet picture my daughter made for me!! If i knew how to post a picture on this!!! Please help!
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If you can get it on the web somewhere.. you can post it. I don't know how you can post it from your PC.
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DaP 25 left Tennessee at 7:25 AM on the 22nd. Just arrived in Fontana, CA at noon today, heading to Las Vegas. At this rate, Dave's is going to beat the Kessel run in under 12 parsecs....
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I’ve tried many times to post a picture on this site and have never succeeded. Always tried while using an iPhone or iPad, so I assumed that it was only possible using a computer. Jim constantly succeeds at posting videos and shirdeep succeeds at posting pix. Don’t know why I consistently fail. What’s the secret Jim and shirdeep? Please do tell. Can’t believe that Casey Jones doesn’t want to trade for DaP20. That’s like the holy grail.
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