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    "We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

    We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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  • libertycaps97211
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    Dave's 27 speculation?
    Or too soon? A much more fun topic for discussion than PTSD GoGD FOMO.
  • snafu
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    What again damn shut up lol
    The title is meant as a joke. In all the posts on FW '69 and the secondary market 1 point hasn't really been discussed. Many people including many on this site are collectors of something be it stamps coins baseball cards etc. The fact that they want ltd. eds. to stay ltd for retaining value doesn't make them evil. In addition to it being a moral deficiency for a company to go back on its word and make more it's a contractual violation. As a stamp collector I pay huge premiums for stamps on ebay or a stamp collectin store and have no problem with that. Getting to the specifics of '69 for those who claim it's about access to the music getting a digital copy is hardly an issue and will sound the same. But I can't help but believe with those loudly complaining it may be the music but equally important is wanting what I bought with a specific promise 13 years ago. Ask a friend to make you a copy, buy it on ebay-the greatest thing for collectors ever- or deal with it. Your trashing of people who are collectors and expecting people who do a great job providing us a great product to go back on their word is getting old.
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    I suppose I'm grateful to be able to afford all the GD releases with all the millions Rhino and George Soros give me to post on this site and join protests all across the country.
  • libertycaps97211
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    And i raise with Mt. Hood Magic. It is one helluva good tyme to be a picky Audiophile Dead Head and alive.
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    I live in the middle of nowhere.. so travelling to a record store takes all day and $50 bucks round trip in gas. I get all mine either from a particular RS owner whom I have a relationship with or via the secondary market. It's funny, I think Dennis wrote about this earlier in the day, I have a turntable but moved into a smaller house six years ago.. so I have not set it up yet. One day I will though... and I try to keep up on them as best I can. One other comment, as a reply or in support of snafu's Rhino comment. I hear a lot of people putting Rhino (and dead.net) in the category of cashing in on the almighty dollar. Sort of a sell-out of sorts. Add up the expected gross revenue in a year (which is easy to do) and create some realistic estimates for royalties (yes, the artists should get a reasonable cut), then add in estimates for production costs (knowing this is outsourced), Norman's cut, Plangent Processing costs for the year, Dave's cut, Dave's healthcare and short term disability for injuries sustained filming his seaside chats, Rhino's cut, estimates for warehousing and distribution, the cost of outfitting MaryE with a new bicycle four times a year for delivery, add in healthcare and tax.. oh, and set aside say 10% for profit and overhead which is a low estimate. If you took the time to add reasonable estimates for each bucket, there is no pot of gold here at all.. just an idea that allows for a small few to pay their bills and perhaps put their kids through college. Just my opinion.. but this is less a money grab and more a mom and pop operation that might just have a heart and soul. Again, my opinion, I could be wrong.
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    Off that "Complete Live Rarities Collection." Nothing will ever be complete with this band... no offense to the completist. Thing was worth the money, though I probably had most of it. I don't know. Just like I signed up like a sucker for that oncoming, "Best Repackage You Can Pay For Again" coming out soon. I said yes to that request thing y'all (seriously?) got behind because 1973 or whatever was a good year just like most of the rest. And I'll play along. As a registered D______, I signed some hippie's petition on a clipboard for some feelgood politician in front of the public library - today. Just trying to help his day along, like offering the fiver to the homeless person. I try to be nice. It's complicated. Complicated like how Verizon had millennials outside this rad pizza joint I frequent where I can order online and blast in and emerge, unscathed, and enjoy my pie. They wanted to sell me their goddamn (insert here, blah blah blah) fucking phone plan today at lunch. Anyone else hate running the gauntlet of just wanting to enter a business, give money and leave without having to deal with parasites outside the entrance? Don't tell me about pitying those who worked the shit jobs. I've had a plum one now for 20 years, running things - but I earned it; I've been a janitor, phone annoyer, newspaper boy and fire damage mitigator. I've walked that shit mile in those shoes. Pretty funny, the energy some focus onto these boards, like, as if, in the next master planning session at Rhino HQ, some bigwig is gonna go, "well, I have it on good authority that some of the prominent posters on Dead.net would really like a reissue of the 1969 box. That's good for over one hundred units sold right there!" Something horrible came on, and I changed it to, "A Horse With No Name." later
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    Jim yeah I imagine that
    Jim yeah I imagine that boxset was the cause of many heated arguments at home lol. and I also imagine it probly was the cause for bad or ruined credit. I just cant imagine everyone being able to just plunk down 800 dollars I think plenty of people went and bought it on a credit card knowing full well they couldn't afford it. people buy cars they can't afford why not a box set? so I'm begging them to please, pleeaaaase for the love of god just do a mini box this year.
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    Is April 21. They are starting to announce stuff now. Zep is releasing a 7" with 2 unreleased songs. There's sure to be more to come soon. Without trying to start something rsd is where the 2nd market comes in handy for me. I work Saturdays so I have to ebay the stuff I really want. I don't really resent it but I think it would turn the heat down a bit if they limited sales to rsd and ltd eds. to say 5. A few are ok This year I bought 2 Dave's extra one for my next gen deadhd nephew who is a Deadco fan but really wasn't into the GD until the sub and is hearing the range minus of course the 80's. Speaking of 80's for me some of the best shows I saw in that decade and with a double caveat emptor would make a great box set was the fall northeast tour of 83. They did release 1 as a dick's and 1 in 30 trips but there are another dozen plus that are superb.Hendrix freak I feel your pain back in the 90's I bought 65 shows bootleg. I do think that one of the reasons they and other boots have crashed in value is the quality was often crap and collectors are becoming more discerning now. Soltzus here's a place I think we can agree on judging from your posts. I'm a Zappa Freak and have been for 50+ years. I have everything he has ever released. The one problem with FZ releases is unlike the Dead his shows were very visual and you loose something just listening. Final housekeeping point. A lot of people here refer to Rhino as a business that makes decisions based solely on the dollar. While obviously they are a business which means the bottom line there's more to them than that. Even though they have become part of the Warners conglomerate they still retain something of their original mission. They were/are music lovers and while they naturally want dinero there's the love of music and pride in giving people something special. I know I'm glad they've put out all those collections from the Reprise Fugs to The Rascals Box the special Butterfield live double and the great Doors shows. Rhino Handmade was something special
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    I would like to say that I do not buy these releases strictly for the music. The truth of the matter is I always buy several copies and make coasters and bong bases out of the extras. I assure you there's nothing more pleasurable then setting down a Redbreast on Dave's Picks Vol. 1 Disc 1. To see those spacey light saber skeletons and the Star Wars artwork as I pick up my glass for a sip of premium Whiskey, is topped only by the slow gurgling of a hit off a homemade bong topped with Blue Dream, as I look down at the cool teal disc from 2/28 that says Fillmore West. Life is good. Had I realized their worth, I would have made a lot more.
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    that's one expensive ass
    that's one expensive ass coaster as Dave's 1 is always up for a thousand dollars. but vguy in here I believe actually got 1-4 at a flea market for exceptional price. so theres always flea markets and possibly used stores probly cuz someone chucked out someone's belongings or someone couldn't make the storage bill or got evicted from an apartment and just didn't know what they had of worth.
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"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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I like your idea of having the two series running concurrently. Exactly as you describe really,-Daves Picks as is, with Road Trips being subscription only, featuring partial shows or less well recorded ones for those who want to hear them. Seems like an everyone wins situation to me, too.
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So then, it follows logically that pulling up a 90s show and jumping straight to I Will Take You Home is like skipping the foreplay and the sex and jumping straight to the awkward "Yea . . . I'm not really looking for a relationship right now."
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Nugs.net has just about every show Dead & Co have ever played available in MP3, lossless, or physical CD. I'm sure the Riviera Run will be available also. They might even have a pre-order deal going (but I haven't looked)
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DiP12 (June '74 with the amazing Chinacat pre-jam) is absolutely on my desert island 5, along with 2/27/69, 11/7/71, 5/10/72, 10/19/73, 10/9/76, 10/29/77, 11/29/80, 10/9/89, and 3/22/90. That's my 5 ;) I generally prefer complete shows, but partials make a TON of sense in many situations: - Some shows have a weak first set, but set 2 shines - rarely is an entire show "must-hear", especially in later years. - Some reels didn't fully survive - i.e.: Didn't one of the Utica NY March '73 shows have a 1st set that was too damaged to save, but both 2nd sets survived? - Many shows (see 1973) can handle a little fat-trimming, esp. first set. My fav partials combine 2 shows into one release, i.e.: Road Trips '88: disc 1 = first set highlights, discs 2 & 3 = second sets. I could see some show pairs getting similar treatment, maybe 9/7 & 9/8/73, 10/1 & 10/2/77, or 10/29 & 10/30/73.... But the "Fall '77 Road Trips" is so Frankenstein-fragmented that you lose the context, and it likely precludes those shows from full release. Note that they're not releasing unrelated filler anymore as they use bonus discs to complete full shows. The longer they focus on complete shows, the more partials they have with with no outlet.
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So it was the 40th Anniversary of McArthur Court-University Of Oregon-Eugene, OR 1/22/78 last night. Close encounters...indeed. So I figured I'd do it up right and pop a blot about 8PM. I started the show (listening to the Dave's Picks 23 version of course) bout an hour later and what a blast!!! Man, from Cobo Hall on 11/1/77 all the way into May of '78 the Dead were in seriously ferocious rockin' territory....Garcia just shreds and the solo jam in "Jack Straw" got so freakin' muscular it's almost to the level of full-blown hard rock at times. The energy level of gigs like 11/5 and 6/77, 12/27 and 12/29 and 12/31/77, 1/11 and 1/12/78, 1/17/78, 1/22/78, 2/3/78, 2/5/78, 4/16/78, 4/22/78, 4/24/78, 5/7/78, 5/10 and 11/78, and of course the magic of July '78 (and the insanity of 12/30 and 12/31/78) is simply out of sight!!! I just love the go for broke, sometimes raucous to the point of over the top vibe of this period. So I was pretty spaced by half way through Set 1 of 1/22/78 last night and by the time I hit "Jack Straw" I was up and dancing around my apt. The way they all just shout "Jack Straw from Wichita cut his buddy down" after Jerry's raging strumming seriously brought tears of joy to my eyes. I'll admit I love everything about 1/22/78, have since the first time I heard it years ago. But being in that special state of mind can really turn things up to 11 (as the Spinal Tap boys would say). By Set 2 I was just enough in the void to really let the band take over and just lead the way. One of my favorite single sets of Dead music, as always I heard many new things (at least I think I did), and by the end of the show I mentally felt wiped out, in a good way. Not that beginning to come down introspective melancholy I and many others have so often experienced. After Disc 3 stopped I just sat and "recovered" in total silence for about 20 minutes. The sheer reverence and love I have for the Grateful Dead keeps my faith in humanity alive. They weren't afraid of the darkness and were always shooting for the light. 40 years later 1/22/78 has lost NONE of its power regardless of what state of mind you're in. But oh man, what a blast!!! Now it's gettin' on crash out time. Just hope I can be awake enough to listen to 1/23/70 (Dave's 19) later on tonight. It isn't going to involve the additional cosmic power boost of last night's trip, but then again one can't go exploring that way EVERY day... But I know personally I did justice and paid the proper homage to the 40th Anniversary of 1/22/78 last night and it was damn fine. Thanks for puttin' on one helluva show guys!!!!
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How about a big ass Box of partial shows? Jim, good luck this spring hunting for morels, hope you have a big harvest. Would hate to have to say that Row Jimmy in MD has no morels. :) Maybe you can get a dog to sniff them out. I say, my dog has no nose. No nose? How does he smell morels? Jealous of the fun Evilyn had last night......
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Shipping notice just received. DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 (wrapped in a Rosy View of the Harvest Moon Rising over Binghamton as seen from inside a Cornucopia as Two Souls in Communion sashay over a Golden Road reflected off of the confluence of the of the Susquehanna and Chenango Rivers with a serenade of Leaping Smallmouth arching past plus the Washington Street Bridge, Roses and token Ears of Corn thrown in for good measure) IS ON THE WAY! (Nice job Tim!)
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No shipping notice here, but for some reason lately I've been getting the actual CD before getting the shipping note, so hoping that's the case here as well....
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Without fail, itll show up at my doorstep before the shipping email haha
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I'm personally counting on the alpacas and Sherpas to guide my DaP25 safely through the mountainous regions of Nepal prior to it landing via passenger pigeon on my doorstep, which will all occur approximately three days prior to the receipt of the 'Shipping Notice' email. Glad these are hitting the road to Heads. Sixtus
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My question since i have yet to get the email either. Is, is it comming smartpost?
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I have yet to hear this one, looking forward to it. The liquid lightshow sun on the cover art looks great. As for complete shows vs Best of mixes, I prefer the complete shows and even would like for the tuning and pauses between tunes to be included. I would also add that the great best of releases would be even better IMO if they included what was cut. Last 5 1. The Electrifying Sounds Of The Paul Jeffrey Quintet 2. Wee Tam and The Big Huge - Incredible String Band 3. Tiny Tim Breaks the World Professional Non-Stop Singing Record 1988 4. Blue Incantation - Sanjay Mishra FT Jerry 5. Roky and the Aliens (1980)
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evilyn2003@hotm... said: "A collection dealing strictly with Ned Lagin and "Seastones" would also be rad!" if i recall correctly, the 1974 tour of 'ned and phil' sets comes out to something like 9 or 10 CDs? that would make for a nice box set. NedBase http://nedbase.blogspot.com/ has a listing of those shows. meanwhile, the new two CD 'seastones' album is coming out shortly. you can read more about it at ned lagin's site Spiritcats http://spiritcats.com/ and click through the MUSIC link. I-) ihor
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. . . and I thought that's a full harvest moon in keeping with the autumn show date. Even convinced myself I saw shadings of lunar “seas” and craters. Nice “liquid lightshow sun" interpretation Mr.Dc. Oh well, nothing some of evilyn2003’s blotter couldn’t clear up nicely. Hope tonight’s encore of 1/23/70 hits the spot evilyn! . . . and hope Ned gets the new re-mixed, remastered 2-CD edition of Seastones released at some point, although I’ve been watching that “space” on spiritcats for a while and haven’t seen any updates for probably two years. There’s also mention of an even more ambitious set of Seastones CDs “ to be released later.” Twould be rad indeed! Maybe there's some behind the scenes collaboration going on with Ned and GD and Rhino or somebody. . .
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I haven't received an e-mail confirming shipping and sent an email to customer service and I've heard nothing. I have hope seeing the rest of the comments on here but I would really like to know. All I do know is that 3 people broke into my hotel room disguised as hotel employees. They proceeded to eat all my food, drink all my booze, and did all my drugs. If security does not get better I will have to seek higher accommodations. It's a pretty sad state of affairs when you have to go to breakfast with a razor sharp hunting knife.
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Delivery is the first Black Can't steam snow We were at this point; there should be angels dancing on a pin. Thank you for a real good time Grease is good for one's constitution Pocket pule hammers that 8 ball. These are the days between
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Just bought the 30 Trips Around the Sun Box Set. 30 shows. 80 CDs. 5 keyboard players. No Weather Report Suite.
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They only played WRS for 14 months, from September 73 through October 74. Great sequence, it just wasn't played for the two shows they played during that period, SD 73 and Dijon 74. There's a couple Let It Grows in the box: Lakeland FL 1980 Riverbend 1985 Luck of the draw I guess.
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Thanks for the info Charlie3. That is awesome news. In addition to Philly 82 show, I am also eager to purchase that 5/15/70 show! That is a tremendous show that I need!
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That is a killer show and one of my favorites from the 30 Trips box, just listened to it again recently. Good Darkstar, and I always like hearing Doin' That Rag. Since the 30 Trips box came out I have listened to the shows from '69, '70, '71, '72, '73, and '75 more frequently than anything else from the box. Today I revisited DaP 19, the last pick with a Darkstar, after noticing someone on here mention that the anniversary of the show was today. Hit the spot. Really looking forward to getting DaP 25 so I can give it a listen and check out the cover art up close.
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jackstrawberry, yeah, I am glad to see the series reissued and am looking forward to picking up that 5/15/70 show. I also missed the release with the Denver '73 show, and will be picking that up in a couple of weeks when it comes out as you can never have too much '73 Dead. Come to think of it, you can never have to much Jerry from '73 either, particularly those Keystone recordings with Merl Saunders. smokeyjoe751 - dig the post.
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Gimme the instrumental "Prelude" only ala the magnificent DaP 21 and/or "LiG>Drums>LiG" post-hiatus '76 era. Hold the "Suite" please. Lyrics always make me cringe.
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a new username just to respond to libertycaps97211. My friend, how can you say that about WRS? In many instances, the main "instrumental" part i.e. the "JAM!" part comes AFTER the prelude and LIG "suite" lyrics. Go right now and listen to my fav WRS, 12/18/73. Or if you prefer, listen to Road Trips 2.3, 6/18/74 (my second fav WRS). Take your pick, but there is soooo much more happening after the prelude, I fear you have been severely misinformed. No offense. Peace.
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I am going to listen to both myself, right now. So thank you for that ;)
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Welcome back from your coma.:)
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nice post evilyn! A few months before it was announced, I listened to Eugene and I was FLOORED, again, by the Not Fade Away. It's loud and powerful, it's soft and nuanced, it's everything special about the band at that time. Amazing musical dialog, signature gigantic searching effort and creativity during an already blazing hot set. Woofers and tweeters and doubters take cover!
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I have always received the release before getting the shipping email. I am sure this time will be no different.
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Over the years I have noticed that here in New York City my shipping notice is usually received later than other U.S areas. Likewise, and naturally, I tended to receive my Dave's quite later too, but, it always arrives. So I am not worried. Of course our European friends have to be very, very patient and are usually "shaken down" for $ from their respective postal officials. The color scheme on this one is very, hmm, hypnotic, for me anyway.
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A lot of talk about Dick's Picks 12 so I decided to give it a listen...its been a few years. Definitely some great stuff on there but it barely feels like a Grateful Dead show. I didn't mind this being a compilation when I first bought it years ago, just like I didn't mind Europe 72 & Live/Dead being compilations, but I guess I've heard too many complete shows at this point and its just easier to tell the difference. I will say though, it seems, most compilations are set up to feel like one show but Dick's 12 is far from it. One Sugar Magnolia per release please. Edit/PS: I'm glad this was released and I will buy anything that is released (other than the best of's) ...just saying its a lot more fun to listen to a complete show, warts & all, and imagine I was there.
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Ha.. that's funny. I have to think this issue is pretty much resolved. They will release complete shows to the extent they can. One day they will attend to some of the fragments that need to see daylight in some way that hopefully will be tasteful and make most people mostly happy.
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Amazed to see a shipping email grace my inbox today. Doesnt look like itll be here by friday though, unless its some seriously fast shipping. Either way, grateful day (just like the last)
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I have had my copy for days however haven’t opened it until the release so I don’t have to add all of the song titles. I concur with other of us in the community that it is time to move past 1977 release irrespective of the fact I was at all of the east coast 77 shows. They were great but variance from one show to the next was not huge (vis-a-vis 72 versus 77). I hope that Dave gets the message and finds some gems, like RFK 1973 with the Allmans, and give us some added variety.
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Well, speak of the devil, just after my no-ship-email-post and along came my shipment email notice! Good news.
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Speaking of the force of fast shipping -- my delivery date was just shifted from Saturday to tomorrow. Oh, Happy Hump Day! Nothing left to do now but smile, smile, smile...
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Hey all, After they finally arrive, I will have 2 extra and unopened 25's to trade if anyone would be interested. I would prefer to trade for unopened copies of either 22 or 23, or any other previous volumes for that matter, other than 20 and 24. Please message me if you are interested. Thanks
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Just wanted to share a sweet picture my daughter made for me!! If i knew how to post a picture on this!!! Please help!
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If you can get it on the web somewhere.. you can post it. I don't know how you can post it from your PC.
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DaP 25 left Tennessee at 7:25 AM on the 22nd. Just arrived in Fontana, CA at noon today, heading to Las Vegas. At this rate, Dave's is going to beat the Kessel run in under 12 parsecs....
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I’ve tried many times to post a picture on this site and have never succeeded. Always tried while using an iPhone or iPad, so I assumed that it was only possible using a computer. Jim constantly succeeds at posting videos and shirdeep succeeds at posting pix. Don’t know why I consistently fail. What’s the secret Jim and shirdeep? Please do tell. Can’t believe that Casey Jones doesn’t want to trade for DaP20. That’s like the holy grail.
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