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    "We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

    We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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    Dead of the Day: February 4, 1969The Music Box Omaha, Nebraska Over the years, February 4th has seen some wicked Dead shows, but the 1969 concert at the Music Box in Omaha, Nebraska is our Dead of the Day. There really are no highlights to the show because the entire show is off the hook. While the boys had not yet hit the apogee of their psychedelic sound – that would come later in 1969 – they still wail on this show. The Caution has to be one of the best ever with the vocal and instrumental vamping resonating the sound of a funky, hallucinogenic train rolling by on the tracks. Further, the Dark Star> Stephen> Eleven is on par with just about any other example of that classic trifecta. http://gratefuldeadoftheday.com/02-04-1969
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    That 4/25 Capitol Theatre show really is a sweet little gem. Tickles my ear-sockets every time.
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    Shirdeep.. that first pic of Garcia has got to be from the 84 Augusta show.. either that or Quasimodo somehow got a hold of Tiger and played us a tune. I find myself liking many songs throughout the years, I appreciate many of the changes in playing and orchestration and I miss some aspects that were dropped or were lost due to age and the ravages of time. Take Jack Straw.. there was an innocence and purity to the 72 versions - the song stood on it's own that year and was perhaps the strongest story-telling year for the song, but I feel parts were not fully developed.. 73/74 gave it a whimsical expressive quality, especially in Jerry's leads. The late 70's saw it take on some edge.. "we used to play for acid, now we play for Clive" and the instrumental pieces were amped up a good bit. Some of the 80's versions were explosive and feature some of Jerry's more energetic leads and in the 90's we get Bruce's influence, etc. It's like asking a parent which kid they like most and they honestly answer they love all their children the same.. There are good and bad aspects throughout.. I am more captivated and happy when I consider the finer points.. We could write a book on the changes of tunes like Dark Star and Eyes of the World.. There might be definitive versions of any song, but ignoring or dissing other versions is not what it's all about. Did someone mention 6/30/85?
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    I introduced the word troll to this discussion. Lambasting people for not buying an 80s release , or for offering critical music analysis about any Era IS trolling. This is exactly what happened here not too long ago, which is the event I was referring to. Just because somebody offers legitimate enthusiasm for the 80s does not mean they're not also a troll when they cross the line.
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    Era debate or era wars it's always the same like Groundhog Day. But if someone is interested in my opinion, I like all eras. Until 77, maybe it was their classic era and the playing was better. Later tbey were increasing the repertoire. In fact, I think that the Shakedowns and others sounded better on the eighties than on the seventies. So, basically I agree with Daverock that most of the seventies songs sounded better on the seventies, but on the eighties we have a few new songs that I really like. I think this year Punxsutawney Phil has predicted 6 more weeks of winter. Good photo AJS.
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    06 15 93 freedom hall Feels Like a Stranger Althea Wang Dang Doodle Friend of the Devil Desolation Row Don't Ease Me In Victim or the Crime -> Crazy Fingers -> Estimated Prophet -> Spoonful -> He's Gone -> Drums -> Space -> The Last Time -> Morning Dew Gloria https://archive.org/details/gd93-06-15.brennecke-young.georges.18984.sb…
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    That's a pretty good assessment of the situation, as I understand it. I can't think of any versions of classic Dead songs, from the 1968-1978 period, that sounded better when played from 1980 onwards. It was interesting how the band responded to the changing times, though. Shows with guests, particularly Branford Marsalis, always seem worth hearing in the later period. It might be presumptious to say so, but I would guess that everyone who loves the 1980s and 1990s Dead also loves the 1968-1978 versions of the band. But the reverse is less likely to be true. I wouldn't think as many people who love the earlier periods also love the later ones. If this is true, and it might not be, then maybe it would be best if the Daves Picks series continued to focus on 68-78, and that 1980 onwards releases were put out separately, so those who didn't want them didn't have to get them. I can remember feeling a bit cheated when it was announced that a 1981 show was going to be the next Daves Picks-but as I had (and have) paid for a subscription, I was stuck with having purchased something I didn't particularly want. Actually, I am not that crazy about another 1977 show being released, either. To me the classic period was late 1967-1974, although there are some great shows between 1976 and 1978. Maybe I will change my mind when I get to hear the new release.
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    Pushing for 80s releases on this site isn't trolling. This isn't The 70-s Only Dead Page, this is The 65-95 Dead page. Pushing for the release of Dead shows here ain't "trolling", it's devotion. The "Era Debate" has gotten hateful in the past (If Brent was alive, he would kill himself after reading some comment threads). This morning I thought "I hope Thin's posts haven't gotten Space triggered. Thin's factually correct and his statements are rationally reasoned, but he is kinda harping on the trope overmuch." Sure enough, the build-up to hostilities is underway... It has been a nice while since our last Era Wars outbreak and there are new voices here. For those seeing this for the first time: The Era Wars are essentially about the desire by a sizeable portion of our community to see most or all GDM releases be from their Dead sweetspot, generally 68-78. The "war" is fraught with tension as the are real stakes: the potential impact of statements on the content of future releases. The overly committed voices on each side are concerned about getting what they want from GDM. Both sides have insatiable appetites and GDM has a limited number of release slots to fill each year. This situation can create some very heated hyperbole and vitriol. This place is much more pleasant between wars. My personal opinions are that 80s Dead IS weaker than 70s Dead but that a regular rotation of all time periods in the release schedules would better represent the band and serve all corners of the fanbase. (just got 30T84 and 30T85. [The Dave L. essays within make Space look like an 80's-hater. And the essays are pretty much "pure hooey".] Compare 84's UJB/Playing/Dew to a 73/74 equivilant or 85's That's It For The Other One sandwich to any 68-71 TIFTO1 and it is clear that the Pre-80s Dead was much more EVERYTHING than the post-80 band... On the other hand, I really like how in the 80s Bobby and Mickey developed to cover the shrinkage of Jerry and Phil's territories in the sonic tapestry. Sorry to those who truly are hearing it differently, but that is how I hear it. I also don't enjoy post-86 Dylan, post-88 Springsteen, or post-82 Stones...)
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    Laughed so hard after I read that I think I cracked a rib. Brilliant.
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"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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Submitted by daverock on Tue, 01/23/2018 - 03:48

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I like your idea of having the two series running concurrently. Exactly as you describe really,-Daves Picks as is, with Road Trips being subscription only, featuring partial shows or less well recorded ones for those who want to hear them. Seems like an everyone wins situation to me, too.
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Submitted by Roguedeadguy on Tue, 01/23/2018 - 04:08

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So then, it follows logically that pulling up a 90s show and jumping straight to I Will Take You Home is like skipping the foreplay and the sex and jumping straight to the awkward "Yea . . . I'm not really looking for a relationship right now."
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Submitted by Roguedeadguy on Tue, 01/23/2018 - 04:21

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Nugs.net has just about every show Dead & Co have ever played available in MP3, lossless, or physical CD. I'm sure the Riviera Run will be available also. They might even have a pre-order deal going (but I haven't looked)
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Submitted by Thin on Tue, 01/23/2018 - 10:16

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DiP12 (June '74 with the amazing Chinacat pre-jam) is absolutely on my desert island 5, along with 2/27/69, 11/7/71, 5/10/72, 10/19/73, 10/9/76, 10/29/77, 11/29/80, 10/9/89, and 3/22/90. That's my 5 ;) I generally prefer complete shows, but partials make a TON of sense in many situations: - Some shows have a weak first set, but set 2 shines - rarely is an entire show "must-hear", especially in later years. - Some reels didn't fully survive - i.e.: Didn't one of the Utica NY March '73 shows have a 1st set that was too damaged to save, but both 2nd sets survived? - Many shows (see 1973) can handle a little fat-trimming, esp. first set. My fav partials combine 2 shows into one release, i.e.: Road Trips '88: disc 1 = first set highlights, discs 2 & 3 = second sets. I could see some show pairs getting similar treatment, maybe 9/7 & 9/8/73, 10/1 & 10/2/77, or 10/29 & 10/30/73.... But the "Fall '77 Road Trips" is so Frankenstein-fragmented that you lose the context, and it likely precludes those shows from full release. Note that they're not releasing unrelated filler anymore as they use bonus discs to complete full shows. The longer they focus on complete shows, the more partials they have with with no outlet.
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Submitted by evilyn2003@hot… on Tue, 01/23/2018 - 07:18

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So it was the 40th Anniversary of McArthur Court-University Of Oregon-Eugene, OR 1/22/78 last night. Close encounters...indeed. So I figured I'd do it up right and pop a blot about 8PM. I started the show (listening to the Dave's Picks 23 version of course) bout an hour later and what a blast!!! Man, from Cobo Hall on 11/1/77 all the way into May of '78 the Dead were in seriously ferocious rockin' territory....Garcia just shreds and the solo jam in "Jack Straw" got so freakin' muscular it's almost to the level of full-blown hard rock at times. The energy level of gigs like 11/5 and 6/77, 12/27 and 12/29 and 12/31/77, 1/11 and 1/12/78, 1/17/78, 1/22/78, 2/3/78, 2/5/78, 4/16/78, 4/22/78, 4/24/78, 5/7/78, 5/10 and 11/78, and of course the magic of July '78 (and the insanity of 12/30 and 12/31/78) is simply out of sight!!! I just love the go for broke, sometimes raucous to the point of over the top vibe of this period. So I was pretty spaced by half way through Set 1 of 1/22/78 last night and by the time I hit "Jack Straw" I was up and dancing around my apt. The way they all just shout "Jack Straw from Wichita cut his buddy down" after Jerry's raging strumming seriously brought tears of joy to my eyes. I'll admit I love everything about 1/22/78, have since the first time I heard it years ago. But being in that special state of mind can really turn things up to 11 (as the Spinal Tap boys would say). By Set 2 I was just enough in the void to really let the band take over and just lead the way. One of my favorite single sets of Dead music, as always I heard many new things (at least I think I did), and by the end of the show I mentally felt wiped out, in a good way. Not that beginning to come down introspective melancholy I and many others have so often experienced. After Disc 3 stopped I just sat and "recovered" in total silence for about 20 minutes. The sheer reverence and love I have for the Grateful Dead keeps my faith in humanity alive. They weren't afraid of the darkness and were always shooting for the light. 40 years later 1/22/78 has lost NONE of its power regardless of what state of mind you're in. But oh man, what a blast!!! Now it's gettin' on crash out time. Just hope I can be awake enough to listen to 1/23/70 (Dave's 19) later on tonight. It isn't going to involve the additional cosmic power boost of last night's trip, but then again one can't go exploring that way EVERY day... But I know personally I did justice and paid the proper homage to the 40th Anniversary of 1/22/78 last night and it was damn fine. Thanks for puttin' on one helluva show guys!!!!
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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Tue, 01/23/2018 - 08:25

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How about a big ass Box of partial shows? Jim, good luck this spring hunting for morels, hope you have a big harvest. Would hate to have to say that Row Jimmy in MD has no morels. :) Maybe you can get a dog to sniff them out. I say, my dog has no nose. No nose? How does he smell morels? Jealous of the fun Evilyn had last night......
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Submitted by JeffSmith on Tue, 01/23/2018 - 11:17

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Shipping notice just received. DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 (wrapped in a Rosy View of the Harvest Moon Rising over Binghamton as seen from inside a Cornucopia as Two Souls in Communion sashay over a Golden Road reflected off of the confluence of the of the Susquehanna and Chenango Rivers with a serenade of Leaping Smallmouth arching past plus the Washington Street Bridge, Roses and token Ears of Corn thrown in for good measure) IS ON THE WAY! (Nice job Tim!)
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Submitted by 80sfan on Tue, 01/23/2018 - 11:32

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No shipping notice here, but for some reason lately I've been getting the actual CD before getting the shipping note, so hoping that's the case here as well....
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Submitted by Lightfoot510 on Tue, 01/23/2018 - 11:52

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Without fail, itll show up at my doorstep before the shipping email haha
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Submitted by Sixtus_ on Tue, 01/23/2018 - 12:21

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I'm personally counting on the alpacas and Sherpas to guide my DaP25 safely through the mountainous regions of Nepal prior to it landing via passenger pigeon on my doorstep, which will all occur approximately three days prior to the receipt of the 'Shipping Notice' email. Glad these are hitting the road to Heads. Sixtus
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Submitted by NCDead on Tue, 01/23/2018 - 12:45

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My question since i have yet to get the email either. Is, is it comming smartpost?
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Submitted by Mr.Dc on Tue, 01/23/2018 - 13:18

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I have yet to hear this one, looking forward to it. The liquid lightshow sun on the cover art looks great. As for complete shows vs Best of mixes, I prefer the complete shows and even would like for the tuning and pauses between tunes to be included. I would also add that the great best of releases would be even better IMO if they included what was cut. Last 5 1. The Electrifying Sounds Of The Paul Jeffrey Quintet 2. Wee Tam and The Big Huge - Incredible String Band 3. Tiny Tim Breaks the World Professional Non-Stop Singing Record 1988 4. Blue Incantation - Sanjay Mishra FT Jerry 5. Roky and the Aliens (1980)
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Submitted by ihor on Tue, 01/23/2018 - 13:28

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evilyn2003@hotm... said: "A collection dealing strictly with Ned Lagin and "Seastones" would also be rad!" if i recall correctly, the 1974 tour of 'ned and phil' sets comes out to something like 9 or 10 CDs? that would make for a nice box set. NedBase http://nedbase.blogspot.com/ has a listing of those shows. meanwhile, the new two CD 'seastones' album is coming out shortly. you can read more about it at ned lagin's site Spiritcats http://spiritcats.com/ and click through the MUSIC link. I-) ihor
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Submitted by JeffSmith on Tue, 01/23/2018 - 14:02

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. . . and I thought that's a full harvest moon in keeping with the autumn show date. Even convinced myself I saw shadings of lunar “seas” and craters. Nice “liquid lightshow sun" interpretation Mr.Dc. Oh well, nothing some of evilyn2003’s blotter couldn’t clear up nicely. Hope tonight’s encore of 1/23/70 hits the spot evilyn! . . . and hope Ned gets the new re-mixed, remastered 2-CD edition of Seastones released at some point, although I’ve been watching that “space” on spiritcats for a while and haven’t seen any updates for probably two years. There’s also mention of an even more ambitious set of Seastones CDs “ to be released later.” Twould be rad indeed! Maybe there's some behind the scenes collaboration going on with Ned and GD and Rhino or somebody. . .
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Submitted by smokeyjoe751 on Tue, 01/23/2018 - 17:21

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I haven't received an e-mail confirming shipping and sent an email to customer service and I've heard nothing. I have hope seeing the rest of the comments on here but I would really like to know. All I do know is that 3 people broke into my hotel room disguised as hotel employees. They proceeded to eat all my food, drink all my booze, and did all my drugs. If security does not get better I will have to seek higher accommodations. It's a pretty sad state of affairs when you have to go to breakfast with a razor sharp hunting knife.
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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Tue, 01/23/2018 - 17:37

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Jim and Bolo forced me to come with them.
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Submitted by Erikandjenn on Tue, 01/23/2018 - 18:36

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Delivery is the first Black Can't steam snow We were at this point; there should be angels dancing on a pin. Thank you for a real good time Grease is good for one's constitution Pocket pule hammers that 8 ball. These are the days between
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Submitted by Butch on Tue, 01/23/2018 - 19:07

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Just bought the 30 Trips Around the Sun Box Set. 30 shows. 80 CDs. 5 keyboard players. No Weather Report Suite.
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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 01/23/2018 - 19:55

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They only played WRS for 14 months, from September 73 through October 74. Great sequence, it just wasn't played for the two shows they played during that period, SD 73 and Dijon 74. There's a couple Let It Grows in the box: Lakeland FL 1980 Riverbend 1985 Luck of the draw I guess.
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Submitted by jackstrawberry on Tue, 01/23/2018 - 20:24

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Thanks for the info Charlie3. That is awesome news. In addition to Philly 82 show, I am also eager to purchase that 5/15/70 show! That is a tremendous show that I need!
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Submitted by Charlie3 on Tue, 01/23/2018 - 20:31

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That is a killer show and one of my favorites from the 30 Trips box, just listened to it again recently. Good Darkstar, and I always like hearing Doin' That Rag. Since the 30 Trips box came out I have listened to the shows from '69, '70, '71, '72, '73, and '75 more frequently than anything else from the box. Today I revisited DaP 19, the last pick with a Darkstar, after noticing someone on here mention that the anniversary of the show was today. Hit the spot. Really looking forward to getting DaP 25 so I can give it a listen and check out the cover art up close.
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Submitted by Charlie3 on Tue, 01/23/2018 - 20:43

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jackstrawberry, yeah, I am glad to see the series reissued and am looking forward to picking up that 5/15/70 show. I also missed the release with the Denver '73 show, and will be picking that up in a couple of weeks when it comes out as you can never have too much '73 Dead. Come to think of it, you can never have to much Jerry from '73 either, particularly those Keystone recordings with Merl Saunders. smokeyjoe751 - dig the post.
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Submitted by libertycaps97211 on Tue, 01/23/2018 - 22:54

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Gimme the instrumental "Prelude" only ala the magnificent DaP 21 and/or "LiG>Drums>LiG" post-hiatus '76 era. Hold the "Suite" please. Lyrics always make me cringe.
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Submitted by dantian73 on Wed, 01/24/2018 - 00:06

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a new username just to respond to libertycaps97211. My friend, how can you say that about WRS? In many instances, the main "instrumental" part i.e. the "JAM!" part comes AFTER the prelude and LIG "suite" lyrics. Go right now and listen to my fav WRS, 12/18/73. Or if you prefer, listen to Road Trips 2.3, 6/18/74 (my second fav WRS). Take your pick, but there is soooo much more happening after the prelude, I fear you have been severely misinformed. No offense. Peace.
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Submitted by dantian73 on Wed, 01/24/2018 - 00:09

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I am going to listen to both myself, right now. So thank you for that ;)
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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Wed, 01/24/2018 - 04:46

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Welcome back from your coma.:)
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Submitted by danc on Wed, 01/24/2018 - 05:57

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nice post evilyn! A few months before it was announced, I listened to Eugene and I was FLOORED, again, by the Not Fade Away. It's loud and powerful, it's soft and nuanced, it's everything special about the band at that time. Amazing musical dialog, signature gigantic searching effort and creativity during an already blazing hot set. Woofers and tweeters and doubters take cover!
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Submitted by ryanpm1976 on Wed, 01/24/2018 - 06:47

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I have always received the release before getting the shipping email. I am sure this time will be no different.
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Submitted by deadegad on Wed, 01/24/2018 - 07:12

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Over the years I have noticed that here in New York City my shipping notice is usually received later than other U.S areas. Likewise, and naturally, I tended to receive my Dave's quite later too, but, it always arrives. So I am not worried. Of course our European friends have to be very, very patient and are usually "shaken down" for $ from their respective postal officials. The color scheme on this one is very, hmm, hypnotic, for me anyway.
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Submitted by mustin321 on Wed, 01/24/2018 - 09:04

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A lot of talk about Dick's Picks 12 so I decided to give it a listen...its been a few years. Definitely some great stuff on there but it barely feels like a Grateful Dead show. I didn't mind this being a compilation when I first bought it years ago, just like I didn't mind Europe 72 & Live/Dead being compilations, but I guess I've heard too many complete shows at this point and its just easier to tell the difference. I will say though, it seems, most compilations are set up to feel like one show but Dick's 12 is far from it. One Sugar Magnolia per release please. Edit/PS: I'm glad this was released and I will buy anything that is released (other than the best of's) ...just saying its a lot more fun to listen to a complete show, warts & all, and imagine I was there.
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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 01/24/2018 - 09:11

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Ha.. that's funny. I have to think this issue is pretty much resolved. They will release complete shows to the extent they can. One day they will attend to some of the fragments that need to see daylight in some way that hopefully will be tasteful and make most people mostly happy.
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Submitted by Lightfoot510 on Wed, 01/24/2018 - 09:12

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Amazed to see a shipping email grace my inbox today. Doesnt look like itll be here by friday though, unless its some seriously fast shipping. Either way, grateful day (just like the last)
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Submitted by gdeadmh on Wed, 01/24/2018 - 09:21

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I have had my copy for days however haven’t opened it until the release so I don’t have to add all of the song titles. I concur with other of us in the community that it is time to move past 1977 release irrespective of the fact I was at all of the east coast 77 shows. They were great but variance from one show to the next was not huge (vis-a-vis 72 versus 77). I hope that Dave gets the message and finds some gems, like RFK 1973 with the Allmans, and give us some added variety.
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Submitted by deadegad on Wed, 01/24/2018 - 09:49

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Well, speak of the devil, just after my no-ship-email-post and along came my shipment email notice! Good news.
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Submitted by SkullTrip on Wed, 01/24/2018 - 13:47

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Speaking of the force of fast shipping -- my delivery date was just shifted from Saturday to tomorrow. Oh, Happy Hump Day! Nothing left to do now but smile, smile, smile...
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Submitted by CaseyJanes on Wed, 01/24/2018 - 14:55

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Hey all, After they finally arrive, I will have 2 extra and unopened 25's to trade if anyone would be interested. I would prefer to trade for unopened copies of either 22 or 23, or any other previous volumes for that matter, other than 20 and 24. Please message me if you are interested. Thanks
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Submitted by deadtony on Wed, 01/24/2018 - 15:00

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Just wanted to share a sweet picture my daughter made for me!! If i knew how to post a picture on this!!! Please help!
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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 01/24/2018 - 15:07

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If you can get it on the web somewhere.. you can post it. I don't know how you can post it from your PC.
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 01/24/2018 - 15:59

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DaP 25 left Tennessee at 7:25 AM on the 22nd. Just arrived in Fontana, CA at noon today, heading to Las Vegas. At this rate, Dave's is going to beat the Kessel run in under 12 parsecs....
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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Wed, 01/24/2018 - 16:00

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I’ve tried many times to post a picture on this site and have never succeeded. Always tried while using an iPhone or iPad, so I assumed that it was only possible using a computer. Jim constantly succeeds at posting videos and shirdeep succeeds at posting pix. Don’t know why I consistently fail. What’s the secret Jim and shirdeep? Please do tell. Can’t believe that Casey Jones doesn’t want to trade for DaP20. That’s like the holy grail.
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