Grateful Dead

So dreading denied 10 people a 30Trips Box so he could break them up to make a buck? That’s why there needs to be order limits. There is also someone selling 10 GSTL Boxes on Amazon for $300 each. ORDER LIMITS!!!!

You'll have a long wait. They're remastering the Pigpen and Janis 710 Ashbury sex tapes first.

Dave Reading here, nice to meet you all. Long time Dead fan, long time forum reader, first time poster, long time physical record store / CD store owner. I like all eras, but I have to respectfully disagree with the idea that the 80s and 90s are as popular as the 60s and 70s. If they were, the sales would reflect it, but they don't. The 80s and 90s kept up at first, but lost pace ever since the market became saturated, which was roughly half-way through the Dick's Picks series. Until then, releases were infrequent, and the Deadheads came out every time something new came out, regardless of era. But once the release rate really picked up steam and consistency, all sales decreased, but more so the 80s (there weren't ever really too many '90s shows). I attribute this to the rationing of funds by consumers for the cream of of the crop, and the availability of more 80s product for lower prices online (which is not an opinion, it is a fact based on objective research I did, with no other motive than to identify which releases were most likely to help pay the mortgage). The sales figures tell the story. Just one example is the 30 Trips Around The Sun box set. I broke up 10 sets and sold them. It took 2 months to sell 1967 - 1978 and two years to sell 1979 - 1989. I still have a lot of '90s left. The 1966 release was in a slight class of its own, taking six months to sellout. What skews the tables even further is that I barely marked up the 80s and 90s, so not only did they take an immensely longer time to sell, but this occurred at a significantly lower price. It's no surprise to me whatsoever that Rhino appears to be pushing the 60s and 70s releases, because they're running a business and these are the money makers. I am sharing this to hopefully shed some light on the situation, and possibly help alleviate some of the typewriter churn that this topic has ushered in on the forum. Have a nice day and enjoy Dave's Picks 25!

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I have to agree with you on this subject. The playing and sound is far superior to anything in the 80's and 90's.Like I said in an earlier post, 1974 is my favorite year and wish for a box set.

I dispute the posts stating flatly that the GD have "purchased" any tapes from anyone who ended up with the Betty Boards from her locker. I doubt anyone on this board has inside information on how that deal works. I don't believe the remaining band members have changed their stance: "we don't pay for tapes that [ultimately] belong to us." But the liner notes on shows released from returned tapes all say: "Tapes provided through the assistance of ABCD Enterprises, LLC." I believe, but cannot confirm, that that means the folks with the tapes provided them for the release and probably earn a modest percentage of the earnings off the release. As for "paying for tapes" and then "blah blah profit" off them; the first is BS, the second is how the freakin' release program works. No profit, no release. Further, I'd guess (only a guess) that there may have been some arrangement to get a fair number of returned tapes released relatively quickly, which has already happened with two boxes and multiple DaPs. That way, the folks holding the tapes received some recompense for their willingness to provide the tapes. With the recent frequency of those returned tapes from Betty's locker, I'd suggest that Lemieux has options this year. He has not released a bunch of tapes from the Mtn Grrrl stash, which was received years ago. So while Dave has moved swiftly on some returned tapes, he has clearly withheld others. Over and out.

Is that an untapped era or an untaped era? I know there are some tape fragments but man o man, what I would not give for what you have proposed...

I love that show too Jason (was there ever a better first Wharf Rat, sandwiched between Dark Star and Dark Star, part II, which was so exquisite as to garner its own title, Beautiful Jam?) In my humble opinion, I don't believe it would be a Dave's Picks, but I do believe it will be released eventually. The reason I don't think it would be a Dave's Picks release is that it is 1) a multi-track recording and 2) part of a 6 show run (Feb 18, 19, 20, 21, 23, & 24). Typically, Dave's Picks have been compiled from the two-track recordings in the vault. I would think that they would consider this Port Chester run to be one of the top-shelf commodities in the Vault and release it as part of a box set, or as a wider release, like the follow-up night that was released as Three From The Vault. I do think it will see the light of day (it almost "has to" given the sales momentum that most of the Vault releases have today). If you want to help expedite its release, write to your Congressman: Dave Lemeieux / vault@dead.net

I think you're slightly misquoting Dave's criteria for release, I believe he's said they look for great performance first, and then make sure the tape of that performance has great sound. They don't seek out a fantastic sounding tape that has a mediocre performance. Almost all of the Dave's Picks have met both criteria, I think a few have been mediocre releases. I also agree with icecrmcnkd that the recently returned stuff will come out first. They have paid whatever it cost them to get them back in the Vault, and they need to generate revenue to make up for that outlay as you said. But they also seem to be finding the very best of that return for releases. As soon as they got Cornell, Buffalo, and Boston, they put it out. The July '78 box, which is still onsale, was the trial balloon. Those are really good shows (most especially 7/1, which was a non-circulating tape), and DaP 21 4/2/73 is a great show with a masterful recording job by Rex Jackson, DaP 22 12/6-7/71, another great sounding Rex tape that may fit the category of mediocre performance (debatable as there's an advocate for this Pick a few posts below), DaP 23 1/22/78 has been sought after for years and was put out to everyone's delight, and then DaP 24 8/25/72 was a Bear tape somehow in the Betty collection. Dave's 25th and 26th are both returned tapes, and the 6th of Dave's choices was also a returned tape, two actually. I hope there's more in the Houseboat collection worth putting out, but with all the Bettys (including her husband Rex's tapes, and the random(?) Bear tapes she had) back in the Vault, I would think the propensity will be finding the best of those and putting those out first. I think performance is the first box that has to be checked off, otherwise 30 Trips would not have included 5/16/81 or 7/31/82, which sound dreadful to my ears, but are good shows, just tough to listen to.

Any chance of 2/18/71 for an upcoming Dave's Pick?This has always been one of my favorites.