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    "We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

    We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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  • icecrmcnkd
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    So dreading denied 10 people a 30Trips Box so he could break them up to make a buck? That’s why there needs to be order limits. There is also someone selling 10 GSTL Boxes on Amazon for $300 each. ORDER LIMITS!!!!
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    You'll have a long wait. They're remastering the Pigpen and Janis 710 Ashbury sex tapes first.
  • dreading
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    Dave Reading here, nice to meet you all. Long time Dead fan, long time forum reader, first time poster, long time physical record store / CD store owner. I like all eras, but I have to respectfully disagree with the idea that the 80s and 90s are as popular as the 60s and 70s. If they were, the sales would reflect it, but they don't. The 80s and 90s kept up at first, but lost pace ever since the market became saturated, which was roughly half-way through the Dick's Picks series. Until then, releases were infrequent, and the Deadheads came out every time something new came out, regardless of era. But once the release rate really picked up steam and consistency, all sales decreased, but more so the 80s (there weren't ever really too many '90s shows). I attribute this to the rationing of funds by consumers for the cream of of the crop, and the availability of more 80s product for lower prices online (which is not an opinion, it is a fact based on objective research I did, with no other motive than to identify which releases were most likely to help pay the mortgage). The sales figures tell the story. Just one example is the 30 Trips Around The Sun box set. I broke up 10 sets and sold them. It took 2 months to sell 1967 - 1978 and two years to sell 1979 - 1989. I still have a lot of '90s left. The 1966 release was in a slight class of its own, taking six months to sellout. What skews the tables even further is that I barely marked up the 80s and 90s, so not only did they take an immensely longer time to sell, but this occurred at a significantly lower price. It's no surprise to me whatsoever that Rhino appears to be pushing the 60s and 70s releases, because they're running a business and these are the money makers. I am sharing this to hopefully shed some light on the situation, and possibly help alleviate some of the typewriter churn that this topic has ushered in on the forum. Have a nice day and enjoy Dave's Picks 25!
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    Anyone got a Justia account so you can log in and see who the owner is? https://trademarks.justia.com/860/76/betty-86076910.html BETTY BOARDS BETTY BOARDS Digital music downloadable from the Internet; Downloadable MP3 files, MP3 recordings, on-line discussion board posts, webcasts… Owned by: ABCD Enterprises, LLC Serial Number: 86076910 https://www.trademarkia.com/betty-boards-86076910.html
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    great pick
    I have to agree with you on this subject. The playing and sound is far superior to anything in the 80's and 90's.Like I said in an earlier post, 1974 is my favorite year and wish for a box set.
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    I dispute the posts stating flatly that the GD have "purchased" any tapes from anyone who ended up with the Betty Boards from her locker. I doubt anyone on this board has inside information on how that deal works. I don't believe the remaining band members have changed their stance: "we don't pay for tapes that [ultimately] belong to us." But the liner notes on shows released from returned tapes all say: "Tapes provided through the assistance of ABCD Enterprises, LLC." I believe, but cannot confirm, that that means the folks with the tapes provided them for the release and probably earn a modest percentage of the earnings off the release. As for "paying for tapes" and then "blah blah profit" off them; the first is BS, the second is how the freakin' release program works. No profit, no release. Further, I'd guess (only a guess) that there may have been some arrangement to get a fair number of returned tapes released relatively quickly, which has already happened with two boxes and multiple DaPs. That way, the folks holding the tapes received some recompense for their willingness to provide the tapes. With the recent frequency of those returned tapes from Betty's locker, I'd suggest that Lemieux has options this year. He has not released a bunch of tapes from the Mtn Grrrl stash, which was received years ago. So while Dave has moved swiftly on some returned tapes, he has clearly withheld others. Over and out.
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    Hey David
    Is that an untapped era or an untaped era? I know there are some tape fragments but man o man, what I would not give for what you have proposed...
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    I love that show too Jason (was there ever a better first Wharf Rat, sandwiched between Dark Star and Dark Star, part II, which was so exquisite as to garner its own title, Beautiful Jam?) In my humble opinion, I don't believe it would be a Dave's Picks, but I do believe it will be released eventually. The reason I don't think it would be a Dave's Picks release is that it is 1) a multi-track recording and 2) part of a 6 show run (Feb 18, 19, 20, 21, 23, & 24). Typically, Dave's Picks have been compiled from the two-track recordings in the vault. I would think that they would consider this Port Chester run to be one of the top-shelf commodities in the Vault and release it as part of a box set, or as a wider release, like the follow-up night that was released as Three From The Vault. I do think it will see the light of day (it almost "has to" given the sales momentum that most of the Vault releases have today). If you want to help expedite its release, write to your Congressman: Dave Lemeieux / vault@dead.net
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    I think you're slightly misquoting Dave's criteria for release, I believe he's said they look for great performance first, and then make sure the tape of that performance has great sound. They don't seek out a fantastic sounding tape that has a mediocre performance. Almost all of the Dave's Picks have met both criteria, I think a few have been mediocre releases. I also agree with icecrmcnkd that the recently returned stuff will come out first. They have paid whatever it cost them to get them back in the Vault, and they need to generate revenue to make up for that outlay as you said. But they also seem to be finding the very best of that return for releases. As soon as they got Cornell, Buffalo, and Boston, they put it out. The July '78 box, which is still onsale, was the trial balloon. Those are really good shows (most especially 7/1, which was a non-circulating tape), and DaP 21 4/2/73 is a great show with a masterful recording job by Rex Jackson, DaP 22 12/6-7/71, another great sounding Rex tape that may fit the category of mediocre performance (debatable as there's an advocate for this Pick a few posts below), DaP 23 1/22/78 has been sought after for years and was put out to everyone's delight, and then DaP 24 8/25/72 was a Bear tape somehow in the Betty collection. Dave's 25th and 26th are both returned tapes, and the 6th of Dave's choices was also a returned tape, two actually. I hope there's more in the Houseboat collection worth putting out, but with all the Bettys (including her husband Rex's tapes, and the random(?) Bear tapes she had) back in the Vault, I would think the propensity will be finding the best of those and putting those out first. I think performance is the first box that has to be checked off, otherwise 30 Trips would not have included 5/16/81 or 7/31/82, which sound dreadful to my ears, but are good shows, just tough to listen to.
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    Any chance of 2/18/71 for an upcoming Dave's Pick?This has always been one of my favorites.
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"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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12 parsecs haaahaaaaa I like star wars. They hate that ship! DP 12 has been commented on lately. So has WRS, but not the one from DP 12. It sounds great to me, but I've only been on the bus a couple years. This song take some time to be fully appreciated. Where does this version rank with the more experienced folks? I heard talk of Dick's Picks one and road trips 1974 as having great versions. Is this one up there? Does anyone know why Dark Star was not included on this CD set? For a set that is so heavily laced with jams, I don't see Dark Star. But the setlist page says it was played.
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It took me some time, but I finally figured out how to do it by poking around and thinking a bit. To post videos, I use YouTube to create the syntax to embed the video. From YouTube, grab a video then underneath it there is a Share option, click it. Then underneath that there should be an Embed option, click that and a small box will appear with text. Copy this and paste it into the post you created and hit save and viola.. your video will post. Pictures are trickier.. I tried a ton of things and nothing worked.. Eventually I stole the YouTube method and cheated.. Go to YouTube, grab a video and do the Share/Embed process, copy and paste the text. Within the text there will be the original https link to the YouTube video with syntax both before and after it, the link to the video will be in quotes. Paste this.. then google search for an appropriate picture, select Images from the top of the search results. Scroll down and grab the image you want, click on it. Then to the right there will be an option to View Image, click on this and just the picture will appear. At the top of your browser will be the https statement (the link). Copy this and paste it to where the YouTube link was in your post, hit save and viola.. you should get something like this. You might have to tweak the height or width within the syntax to get it to look right, but it should work. Edit: Keep it clean.. no naked or kinky skeleton pics folks.. this is a family friendly site. :D
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That’s a lot of work... I’d like to hear shirdeep’s method.
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There's probably a tool you can use or a better way..
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Yeah, i've tried and failed too. I have TONS of GoGD/Audio Porn in Google photos. Would enjoy seeing what this community has to offer visually. Something tells me alot of cool stuff!
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....yeah. Its me, because I feel like a tool when I try and do it. Face it people. This site is a relic. We need some Indiana Jones action....
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Pretty good Tony. How old is she? I'll be damned if I can get shirdeep's method to work. I will continue to use my constipated method for now, but I suspect shirdeep is onto the better way. I just don't know java. Java is for drinking, not typing.. I suspect lots of people will start getting their Dave's Picks 25 today. Can someone please make a comment as to sound quality and show performance? Someone a couple days who caught every 77 East Coast show back in the day commented that he/she was 77 saturated. I have to admit, 77 has not been in my circle of listening shows lately, but I am starting to get a little curious about this release. It is a monster show..
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I have to say, I like the level of detail on this volume. It's much more pleasant to look at than last year's volumes.
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Just want to know if anyone had any info on Dick's Picks 12 and Dark Star. It's listed as having been played on the 28th at Boston, but they didn't include it on the release. Bad tape reel?
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Hey LoveJerry, According to a list of All Dark Stars I pulled off of setlists.net a while ago, the only Dark Star played in June '74 was 06/23/74 at Jai-Alai Fronton - Miami, FL. Dark Star's not on the soundboard I have from 6/28 either.
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Thanks alot Jim, she's 17 and been drawing since she was just out of diapers, she did that free hand, she's something else when drawing portraits! She likes some of the deads tunes, not like my 11 yr old who drops a load whenever i happen to put on any version of Tennessee Jed!
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I seem to recall a Dark Star tease of some sort in the 28 minute jam on disc 3 between Weather Report Suite and U.S. Blues. I bet that's what they are talking about in whatever you were reading. They did not play Dark Star that night but might have danced around the melody while they were in hyperspace. Bueller? How did you know I was playing hooky from school today. Well.. it's 26 degrees and high water.. good day to brush the snow off my boat and get a little river workout. :D
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I too received a notice, now it says I won't see it till the 30th of January. Funny, it's in Tennessee now, and will take 5 days to get here. Looking forward to this release, that first set looks awesome, Half step opener with a Friend of the Devil, Dupree's, Dire Wolf and a Passenger, one of my favs. Second set ain't no slouch either. I must agree tho, 77 burn out seems to be going around.
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I checked out the Jam but didn't really hear the Dark Star theme. It was more like the Space part of Dark Star, and the little dooka-dooka-dooka sound effect that Jerry (love the man) makes on his guitar. If you start Sugar Magnolia on 4/29/72, you can hear the sound I'm talking about. The set list I got from a site someone hear recommended, I thought you, or maybe stoltzfus or keithfan. Maybe it was icecreamconekid. Set list FM. https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/grateful-dead-bd6ad4a.html?song=Dark… If you click on the link and then click on Grateful Dead (underneath the "performing artists" circle graph, it will list the dates. If you scroll to the bottom of the list of dates, you will see that only 25 dates fit on the page. If you click page 2, it will have 1974 on it). This is the most awesome set list site, I love it.
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As Jim said, I believe there's a tease somewhere within the 28 min jam out of Weather Report Suite. Much of the jam is an unlabeled Mind Left Body Jam, which is ironic, given that this release marked the first labeling of a MLBJ, but did it incorrectly in the 90 second track between China Cat and Rider. Also, while it is a MLBJ, it is also the perfect bridge between that and The Music Never Stopped, which has that very brief progression that replicates MLBJ. The 6/28 jam shifts from the spaciness of MLBJ toward the rocking funk of MNS. And I believe it's in the few minutes after the peak that it veers toward Dark Star territory, without ever getting fully sucked into the vortex. And then Bobby's jazzy vamping leads elsewhere entirely. I'm glad that this Pick keeps coming up, giving me another excuse to check out this glorious jam!
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Although tracking is not yet available. I live a 3 hour drive from La Vergne, but due to mail innovations, will be lucky if I get it on Saturday. 6-28-74 Dark Star Jam I believe that Dead Base lists it’s presence (I’m at work and don’t have a DB here) and I think it’s something like MLBJ>Dark Star Jam>U. S. Blues. If there, it’s just a spacey segment. I always considered it to just be MLBJ>U. S. Blues
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It's "On The Way", hopefully it doesn't get lost in Tennessee this time like DP 24. Hoping for a Saturday listening party, but I won't hold my breath.
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I can also definitely verify its in there - I was JUST listening to this very segment on the way to work yesterday (as a result of all of this chatter the day prior). They toy around with the Dark Star theme for a minute or two and then it heads off into another direction and they never actually come back to it proper, nor of course do they sing any of it. It's a JAZZY interstellar exploration with some very nice grooves, inclusive of the MLB aforementioned. I'm a also a sucker for the WRS on DiP One...it's good. Sixtus
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And they wonder why people have phobias about clowns…. Not me though. Growing up I had a sad clown painting on the wall of my bedroom, painted by an uncle during the first months of a hapless marriage. So I’ve always preferred riding the Bolo bus and when at a circus, always root for that tiger. In any event, since 6 am this morning my package has been sitting in the 'Innovations Facility' down in TN. Hopefully they’ll find a solution for getting it to me here in Michigan by the weekend. Not hopeful though :-(
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aaahhhhhh! Makes me want to sleep with the light on.. or not sleep at all. Very cool.. can we get her to do the cover art on next years Dave's Picks.. tripping clowns anyone? I wonder if we can get her to take up a 12X14 of the 4/1/88 Road Trips (was at that show)? Encourage her Tony.. for her age, this is remarkable. What media did she use? Do I detect some water colors or are the mushrooms kicking in?
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I would even go so far to call it a Dark Star jam, not just a tease. If you take a listen to the Moore AUD tape (link below), Jerry introduces the Dark Star theme immediately out of the MLB jam, at 14:06 in the "Jam of Various themes" track. The common Dark Star pre-verse jam is clearest in the next 30 seconds or so, but continues until 17:35, when Jerry moves into a jazzy two-chord vamp that lasts until 24:35. That part would certainly fit in a Dark Star, but it's not obviously related to the DS melody. At 24:35, the spacey buildup to Tiger starts, collapses, and gives way to the speedy riff that becomes US Blues. Very fun to listen to this after a long break from it and see how the whole thing is constructed. Here's the link: https://archive.org/details/gd1974-06-28.sonyecm99.moore.berger.106003… But is it the best WRS? Maybe. At least of the full suite versions, I think 6/18/74 gives it a run for its money.
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Jim, that idea is right on! It would be pretty sweet if they held a contest for a chance to design a Daves Cover! As for my girl, she did that piece with colored pencil and watercolors, She is really talented, i could not be more proud of her! She graduates this year, I am really pushing her to explore options for an art school or something, but she seems lukewarm on it. Ill post some more of her work when i get the chance. Thanks for the kind words, she got a kick out of it when i showed her the post
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Is in the house! I might get a chance to crank it a bit as the Mrs won't be home for 90 minutes yet....
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....Sorry to say but this artist does absolutely nothing for me on the cover work...looks like the wasted doodlings of a meth head and kinda cliched hippy crap to my eyes...but what the hey...
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I like the colors and frankly the whole thing would be good if the skippy hippy dippy couple werent in the picture.
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I think that would go over .... well .... like a box of seastones
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That is a farout pic on your link that your daughter did, is she into the Dead?guit30
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Thanks LoveJerry, Jim, Alvarhanso, Sixtus, My Lightning Too, & everybody. Looking forward to tonight's homework listening to DP12's (and Moore's Aud and Miller's sbd) fully played WRS with assorted jam motifs into US Blues with better ears. Onward!
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Thanks for the your post, She likes the dead a bit, but into her own thing as well. I have an 11 yr old boy that loves them though, at least someone will inherit my collection!
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Weird world, I live about 90 miles from La Vergne Tn. Of course Nappy has his, last time I was in the running to see if I got my sooner than Simon Rob and the European folks. As many have stated, these packages seem to follow Nav System directions, Oh no train coming. G
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better than I could do. fish are rising up like birds. the colors especially appeal to me. also: Seastones box? I'd buy that, baby.
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at bt.etree user stevestw? used to post great shows with articulate reviews and often put out compilations of, for example, noteworthy Terrapin Stations, These were a series of the same song from over the years which were particularly strong performances of that same song complied into one single torrent. I recall someone once suggested that we should have a compilation of Note Worthy Donor Raps from Phil. Funny! Just imagine listening to an hour of Phil's Donor Raps? LOL! OMG!
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the Bertha is excellent, aspiring artist indeed!
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How much more red can this cover get? The answer is none, none more red..Actually kinda like it though
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I've heard that before, think it's hysterical. I shouldn't even say this.. but here I go.. my main tour buddy and I were at a series of NY shows more than a decade ago. Phil often mentions Cody in his donor raps and I think I said something to extent hey.. didn't he say it was Robby last night? ..and an ongoing dialogue and Phil the vampire was born. To which we incorporated into the Phil Donor Rap CD. It's still a running joke, I would like to thank to boy scout troupe 371 for...... I apologize.. very off flavor and said only in jest.. I'm a big Phil supported, but we still howl about it from time to time. I'm pretty sure this is the only thing keeping Keith Richards alive. ..and for what it's worth, his donor raps convinced me to be an organ donor (though considering the likely shape of some of my organs, I'm not entirely convinced I am doing good).
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There is finally a way to post pics online, I think. I had contacted Sixtus a about 18 months ago about working with his buddy that hosts the Sixtus Mixtus. His buddy was out of country at the time, and I ended up getting sick and never followed through. I am gonna see if this works, we shall see. G IMG42 pics are fuzzy do to bad camera software
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i spent a good deal of time making this list, so i was hoping to get more feedback. i've never fully agreed with similar lists regardless of subject, so i don't expect anyone to be 100% satisfied, but i think this one is pretty solid, so tell me what you like, or tell me what you don't like. 01. Terrapin Station 02. Ship Of Fools 03. Loser 04. The Other One 05. Brown Eyed Women 06. Bertha 07. Jack Straw 08. Wharf Rat 09. Weather Report Suite 10. Playing In The Band 11. Mountains Of The Moon 12. Althea 13. Black Throated Wind 14. Estimated Prophet 15. To Lay Me Down 16. Fire On The Mountain 17. Franklin's Tower 18. Deal 19. Sugar Magnolia 20. Dark Star 21. China Cat Sunflower 22. Blow Away 23. Candyman 24. Friend Of The Devil 25. Black Peter 26. Feel Like A Stranger 27. Shakedown Street 28. Stagger Lee 29. Doin' That Rag 30. Brokedown Palace 31. St. Stephen 32. Sugaree 33. High Time 34. Touch Of Grey 35. New Speedway Boogie 36. Box Of Rain 37. Cassidy 38. Eyes Of The World 39. Truckin' 40. Built To Last 41. Mr. Charlie 42. He's Gone 43. Here Comes Sunshine 44. Standing On The Moon 45. Throwing Stones 46. Crazy Fingers 47. Row Jimmy 48. Bird Song 49. Scarlet Begonias 50. The Music Never Stopped -----
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Ok let me get my sh$t together to post how. That was a pic I took maybe almost 2 years ago when folks, some may remember, were discussing the tickets that came with the Warlocks box. They were wondering if they were left over tickets or reprints. Well this long of a time after I have finally responded. OK, I know I am moving much too slow. You can tell that they are reprints. The actual ticket is a fraction larger and The Warlocks was printed in a gold foil print instead of black, like the reprint. Sorry pic is fuzzy. This was an old digital camera and its software is causing all pics to be fuzzy. Need to take again with my phone, check back in two years. G
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It doesn’t show up on my iPad, it just says IMG42.It’s weird but there have been times where someone’s pic doesn’t show up, but once I log in it appears. Other times I can see a pic, but the next time I visit the site it does not appear. I’m logged in now but cannot see Gary’s pic.
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Unparalleled. From 76 - 78 none equal. So good my hair got caught in the fan while I was thrashing. Agree about the cover art. One of my least favorites. For my taste, I would be OK with all the red possibly, if the foreground characters were different. I'm not crazy about the country Jamboree skeletons. Rootin tootin hootenanny hollerin country Jamboree. Or maybe not, that is a lot of red.
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That took some work, impressive. Likes: Loser, Brown-eyed, Wharf, Althea, Franklin's, Candyman, Black Peter, Sugaree, Speedway, Truckin', Mr. Charlie, He's Gone, Row Jimmy... not as much: Weather Report, Sugar Magnolia, Cassidy, Throwing Stones. You did ask. Still an admirable list, nice.
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