Grateful Dead

Agree on more mini boxes and less monster boxes. I can only assume Boxzilla was a vast and hugely successful conspiracy orchestrated by a divorce attorney think tank and lobbying group in DC.

I myself would prefer one box set a year. because we all pretty much spent roughly 300 dollars in one year for a dave's picks sub, get shown the light and RFK. honestly I would prefer more mini box sets like RFK. the bigger they are the less likely I can get one and then i'm at the mercy of someone sending me digital an ALAC copy like with 30 Trips and Europe '72. and its not like I'm sitting around mooching off people I have bought every box set barring winterland '77 and and subscribed to to Dave's Picks since Dave's 13. but you know I cant buy them all. I don't know if I can get the one this year or not cuz if it costs more than the $160 bucks I have saved from holiday gift money I'm flat out fucked. I keep my box sets in the original mail box they come in even if they are gathering dust because computers can crash and external hard drives can get wiped out. which I would be crestfallen cuz my 30 Trips is all digital and it took me a whole summer and fall to get those.

I buy these releases for the skeletons with beards. This thread seems to be suffering from a multi-personality disorder at the moment, which is fine. I am drawn to the anniversary hype and what these shows do to the ears and minds of the beholders. I am mildly amused by some of the rest. I'm half tempted to steer the conversation to something less controversial like religious cults and why you should join one now, family planning techniques or Hitler, the worlds greatest philanthropist. Softer topics that warm the heart. Good stuff mostly.. it is all about the music and I guess the culture fun and prankish comradery. What a great month for GD History. Edit: Oh, love Dicks Picks 28.. it's another great twofer. I wonder if I will still be alive when this comes out on vinyl?

I agree people like us will continue to get our Dave's Picks subscriptions and new box sets whether they re-release the old stuff or not. But the resellers would stop buying in bulk quantity if all of the releases are just going to be re-issued in a few years. That's why Dick's Picks are not nearly as expensive on ebay. And re-issues do hurt resellers. Just look at how much the original Road Trips came down in price on ebay, after Real Gone started selling the re-issues. So for example if Dave's Picks started being re-issued by Real Gone, the 18,000 Dave's Picks manufactured is not going to maintain those quick sellouts, or continue to grow (I think somebody said 33% since 2012). Resellers probably account for at least 25% of the overall Dave's Picks sales. Rhino isn't going to rock that boat for 10K in old Fillmore West sets. Get shown the light - that's the instance where they basically screwed the resellers on the "limited edition" sales pitch, by releasing the exact same set a week later, but with no book. They do that enough times, the resellers will wise up, and then maybe it's only one box set a year. Yikes. So I'm fine with resellers. It stokes overall sales and keeps my new Dead tunes coming El rapido.

Totally agree Dave. The end of this show sets it on fire. This Dew has always hit me. Jer takes it to the next level. Love the way the guitar sets the mood at the end. Jerry’s guitar had wings and this one takes off. It continues into the sugar mag and he’s totally into the bid you goodnight so is Phil. Just a cool show. 45 years ago tonight.

In defense of the Jefferson Airplane, I'd say that they actually did plenty of jamming in comparison to most of the other bands from around that time and place, with some songs that almost always went over 10-12 min, and several other examples of even longer improv jams etc. The Airplane also changed up their setlists, adding new songs and covers more often than alot of other groups. The airplane also had songs (Dresses too short, Bear Melt, Mau Mau etc) that they would often stretch out in a rave up style similar to Turn on Your Lovelight. They for sure weren't the Dead, but most those bands like Country Joe, Quicksilver, the Blues Project, It's a Beautiful Day etc did some occasional extended jams. Unfortunately one often has to seek out, obtain and be willing to listen to actual bootlegs/audience recordings of full shows to hear alot of these unique jams and extended versions, because there aren't alot of specific examples of them on youtube (you can find some full shows) or through official releases(there's not alot available). Songs I'd recommend for longer airplane jams would be 'Other side of this life', 'Ballad of Pooneil', 'Thing', 'Fat Angel', 'Wooden Ships', and you can also find some good ones that are just entitled "jam". Here's a example of the Airplane jamming a song live in 1968, which is my favorite year for them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmS0KD2QwKc And here is a great jam with Jerry and the Airplane and some members from Santana's percussion line, possibly Mickey as well. Jerry really taps into that 69 Dark Star sound at various points which sounds unique in this context, with Jorma really propeling the jam and taking some great lead spots. There are distinct sections and its all improvised. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9xcGJrf-Q8

February 28, 1973http://gratefuldeadoftheday.com/02-28-1973 Salt Palace Salt Lake City, Utah While there is much that is very good in here, including a wonderful TLEO and He's Gone in the first set, other parts do not quite seem to reach the outer limits that we know the band is capable of. For instance, the Sugaree is good but not earth-shattering. And, the China> Rider, despite a funky little jam before the transition, does not plumb the full depths of those two tunes. The second set of this show ends with Promised Land, Truckin'> Other One> Eyes> Morning Dew, Sugar Magnolia and then a We Bid You Goodnight encore. Sadly, none of the recordings that are out there seem to capture the entirety of it with the exception, of course, of Dick's Picks Volume 28. Even with the Dick's Picks, you still need to lay your hands on the album because those missing tunes are "album only" on the MP3 download off Amazon. The Dick's Picks is definitely worth hunting down as it is those last few tunes that turn this into something truly special that, I imagine, made Dick Latvala want to send it out into the world from the Vault.

2/28/73 morning dew. Get some. Still one of my favorites

yeah icecream I buy mine because I want the music as well. i'm totally fine with reissuing stuff so it can get back out there. if that means re sellers cant sell it for a jacked up price *shrugs*. I mean people trade out and make copies of out of print stuff all the time so good luck unloading a box set for thousands of dollars only cuz it has backstage pass reprints..that are stickers..or a pin. reprinting limited things wont stop sales for dave's picks or box sets. cuz deadheads out there will buy any thing that's associated with the band, case in point Merl Saunders & and Jerry Garcia Band at the Vogue in Indianapolis...and people are going to that lmao. I didn't care that get shown the light had a music only version after the limited edition sold out. because holy shit the big four was out. and the only thing that makes it a "collectors item" was a book...that you can buy individually at amazon. and there are copies of the limited get shown the light sold for high prices. when you can just go purchase the music only version and then go to amazon and buy the book. it's called Cornell '77: The Music, The Myth, and the Magnificence of Grateful Dead's Concert at Barton Hall right now for 17 bucks.

I buy these releases for the music, which sounds better than the torrent copies if available, and to have it pressed on a thin film of metal.Future value never factors into the purchasing decision. I want the music. Resellers, scalpers, speculators will be pissed off if a ‘Limited Editon’ is re-released. Fans of the music will rejoice. How many people here would not subscribe to Dave’s Picks 2019 or 2020 if FW69 was remastered and released? Probably a few resellers, but not all of them. As long as I can afford it, I will keep buying these releases, Limited or unlimited.