Grateful Dead

Unlike most recent radio boots that are now coming out many of the boots put out in the 90's on labels like KTS were of 80's and 90's shows and we all lnow those are worthless. Sorry just kidding many boots especially by KTS of those 80's and 90's shows were really good quality. My only opinion on sales as opposed to trades is a bit of guilt. I know they didn't like them and anyone of the posters who get downright nasty about ptb and their "rights" know better or their moral compass has a false North reading. The truth was/is it's taking something that ain't yours.

Here's my take and I really don't care who agrees with me or not... I'm not trying to fight or point fingers because the reality is that we are entitled to do whatever the hell we want regardless of potential consequence In my opinion these scalpers are far worse than the bootleggers. It's frustrating to hear folks say they invested in extra copies of these limited releases to jack up the price on some third party site. While that ramps up sales here for the good people of rhino/GDM, it sucks for the people who want to hear the tapes in the best quality, which I think is important. I must admit I was one of the first, I believe, to propose selling individual 30 trips shows on this site. I still don't feel great about that but I felt like I was helping those who didn't want to buy the whole set. Furthermore I didn't buy multiple sets, I proposed breaking up a 30 trips so that I could afford the shows that I wanted out of it. That's it right there. It is very clear that for some, buying as many limited releases as they can and re-selling for as much as 5x-10x what they paid has become standard procedure. It's whatever you feel like doing, but that is truly keeping more people from hearing this band how they would want you to hear them. With Bootleggers I feel like they just aren't in the same market space as the folks at Rhino. They don't have a Norman. They don't have the ever-distracted Lemieux drumming up hype. They don't comission artists. The bOotleggers give you music which was intended to be heard by a band that most of us love. Rhino/WMG's product here stands head and shoulders above what is readily available, and they know it. I really don't feel like dusty old boots deter someone from buying a full Norman production upon it's release. Maybe I'm wrong. I just feel like it's better if more people hear the music. I get the limited release model and why it makes sense for business, but I also don't think GDM loses any money when dead fans pay for a boot. Furthermore GDM doesn't lose any money when scalpers scalp. Rhino has a good thing going; constant sell outs with 4 releases a year (Dave's Picks). I forget how fast the 72 trunk sold out but it was like $3 million dollars in pre-sales. They can release the shows that they have in the vault at their leisure for years to come without worrying about cash flow. They can have their cake and eat it too, and I think that's great for most us. It's the fan without the capital, or sometimes just not online at the right time, that ends up holding the short end of the stick. Maybe these two issues aren't related at all, but I feel strongly that when it comes down to it, it really is about the music and the number of people that it touches. I really don't need a lesson in economics, so please spare me the whole spiel about why it makes sense for guys to scalp or the thing about why we shouldn't boot. We ought to do a lot of things to make the world a better place for ourselves and others. Call it slacktivism if you like, but for now do whatever you want, believe that change is still possible, and listen to the Grateful Dead. I just wanted to tell you all how I feel. Thanks for reading

bootlegs would not be necessary if the ptb released shows that we want. I have purchased a lot of bootlegs, on cd and vinyl, some good, some not so good, but all new music that at the time I had not heard. Do I still have those boots? Sure, KTS released a slew of them that had excellent sound and great packaging. Those who have never bought a bootleg, probably were not deadheads back in the day when that was the only way to get to hear a show unless you were there. Before that, there weren't even very many tapes made, especially in the 60's and early 70's, they weren't allowed. No taping allowed at the door when you went in, so if you got caught, they confiscated the tape and in some cases, made you leave the show. Now that there is the net, you can get all you want for free if you want it. open up the vault, at the speed that rhino releases shows, we will all be dead before they get to the 90's shows. Is it possible for the vault to be opened? not as long as there is money to be made from it, no. So I bought a bunch of boots, turned a lot of folks on to them, which in turn got them on the bus, which in turn makes the band money, why not? Years ago I used to say, anyway that gets this great music out there for people to hear and experience is a good thing. Ain't no time to hate...barely time to wait. You have to admit, we do a lot of waiting for shows to come our way and some may never be released.

Jerry’s exact words about bootlegging. Thanks for the link Mr. DC.

Glad yours arrived - still nothing here. Had a few other packages go missing lately, so getting concerned...

I had that Silver Rarities cd of Cornell 8th May 1977, too. It was pretty good. Before that, in the 80s, I had a tape of the second set-which was pretty bad. When it was officially released I bought the box set without a second thought. I didn't have a computer when the 1969 Fillmore Box set came out, so I missed it, and got the 3 cd version from Spin in England. But I've got 1st March 1969 on a bootleg, which, again, is better than the tape I used to have. If it came out officially I would buy it immediately, and leave my bootleg in a charity shop. Terrible, what goes on, isn't it? Obviously, as said before, I am not one for downloading, or listening to music online.

We really have so much great music that the Dead produces very well for us, that we don't need to support Dead bootlegs. Have a great day folk.Guit30

Is very good, in my humble opinion, 4.5 Dead bolts (out of 5). I love the Mississippi Half-Step... opener. This 2nd set St. Stephen brings a good refreshing perma-smile to my face, or so people tell me. However on an odd note, with Truckin' I get an embarrassing arousal. It's that good for me. I wish I was able to make this show, but other priorities came 1st back then. I was only just over a 2 hour drive to the south of Binghamton. From what I have read about this show, you had to be there in attendance to get full effect and great memories, because this audio recording is only one part of the whole experience of this show. The bottom line here: I am glad that this show got an official release. Thank you, Dave & co.

Way to call me out by name under false pretenses, then ignore my entire reply... then you accuse those of us that feel promoting sketchy unauthorized bootlegs on the Dead's official site is inappropriate, as being "law and order conservatives". What a strange way to engage in what has been a fairly civil discussion. Really there's no need for being so defensive bud, no one is saying anything about your personal motives or character. I think I've said about all I want on this topic, so its back to lurking in my cave. But before I go, I refer you back to that interview with Jerry Garcia, he really does address most of what is being discussed in regards to bootlegs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QBJ8pBdpao . skip to around 29minutes in.

Thanks for the pointer. I illegally downloaded it off youtube, where it was probably posted illegally, I am such a scum!