Dave's Picks Volume 25: Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, NY 11/6/77

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heatherlew

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"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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February 1, 2018 - 9:49am

#2621

claney

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Alaska; Keith's Piano

Nothing brings me out of Lurkerville like a reference to the #1 item on my Grateful Wishlist - Alaska 1980. For years I've begged for a "Grateful Dead in the Land of the Midnight Sun" box - all kinds of art possibilities. But I must say, "Basked Alaska" is a fine title too. Also, I saw there was some discussion of Keith's piano in the Fall '77 shows. According to Blair Jackson in "Dead Gear" Keith didn't switch from the grand piano to the Yamaha electric grand until "summer 1978." He indicates that Keith changed to the electric grand piano because it was easier to transport (important for going to Egypt, for example). Ironically the damn things still needed to be tuned, and the piano tuner didn't show up in Egypt. That is so Grateful Dead. Anyhoo ... if you look at this video of 12/30/77 you can see that he's still playing the traditional grand piano. Good shot of it just before the 32:00 mark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqZP8ihyfs8&list=RDyqZP8ihyfs8&t=1916 So I think the sound of his piano in the fall shows really is due to him pounding away on the chords, and keeping his foot firmly on the echo pedal.
February 1, 2018 - 8:56am

#2622

simonrob

Joined:
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HDCD players

The following list was shamelessly lifted from Steve Hoffman Music Forums: Advance Acoustic MCD 204 (CD Player) Arcam Diva DV 79 (DVD Player) Arcam Diva DV 135 (DVD Player) Arcam Diva DV 137 (DVD Player) Arcam FMJ DV 139 (DVD Player) Berkeley Audio Design Alpha DAC (DAC) Cambridge Audio Azur 650 BD (Blu-ray Player) Cayin CDT-15A (CD Player) CyberHome CH-DVD 635 (DVD-Player) Denon DBP-A100 (Blu-ray Player) Denon DBP-4010UD (Blu-ray Player) Denon DVD-A1UD (Blu-ray Player) Denon DVD-A11 (DVD/SACD Player) Denon DVD-A1XV (DVD/SACD Player) Denon DVD-A1XVA (DVD/SACD Player) Denon DVD 2800 mk2 (DVD/SACD Player) Denon DVD-2910 (DVD/SACD Player) Denon DVD-2930 (DVD/SACD Player) Denon DVD-3800 (DVD/SACD Player) Denon DVD-3910 (DVD/SACD Player) Denon DVD-3930 (DVD/SACD Player) Harman/Kardon FL-8370 (CD Multi Disc Player) Harman/Kardon HD-750 (CD Player) Linn Majik CD (CD Player) Mark Levinson ML 37 (CD Player) Mark Levinson ML 39 (CD Player) Mark Levinson ML 390S (CD Player) Mark Levinson No. 36 (DAC) Mark Levinson ML 360 (DAC) Mark Levinson ML 360S (DAC) Music Hall CD 25 (CD Player) NAD C 542 (CD Player) NAD M5 (SACD/CD Player) NAD M55 (SACD/DVD Player) NAD T 585 (SACD/DVD Player) Naim CDX2 (CD Player) Naim CD5x (CD Player) Naim CDS3 (CD Player) Naim CD555 (CD Player) OPPO BDP-80 (Blu-ray Player) OPPO BDP-83 (Blu-ray Player) OPPO BDP 93 (Blu-ray Player) OPPO BDP 95 (Blu-ray Player) OPPO DV-980H (DVD Player) OPPO DV-981HD (DVD Player) OPPO DV-983H (DVD Player) Original CD-A8T (CD Player) Panasonic DVD-S52 (DVD Player) Pioneer DVR-550H-S (DVD Player) Restek EPOS (CD Player) Rotel RCD-02 (CD Player) Rotel RCD-1072 (CD Player) Rotel RCD-991 AE (CD Player) T+A CD3000R (CD Player) Toshiba SD 500E (DVD Player) Vincent S1.1 (CD Player) Vincent S3 (CD Player) Vincent S5 (CD Player) Vincent S6 (CD Player) Personally I have a Naim CDX2 and I can highly recommend it.
February 1, 2018 - 8:31am

#2623

shirdeep

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folsom 1980

Uncle John's Band Playin' in the Band Uncle John's Band Me and My Uncle Mexicali Blues Tennessee Jed Samson and Delilah Easy to Love You Althea Looks Like Rain Deal Feel Like a Stranger Ship of Fools Estimated Prophet Eyes of the World drums Saint of Circumstance Black Peter Sugar Magnolia Alabama Getaway Brokedown Palace https://archive.org/details/gd80-06-08.eaton.tome.7193.sbefail.shnf
February 1, 2018 - 7:00am

#2624

Sixtus_

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November 8, 2014

re: Real Gone / '73 ...and...and....

Thanks MidwayKid for this reminder about the reissue - / Real Gone series. I had missed out on the Denver '73 Road Trips back in the day for whatever reason and indeed found it there. Gotta round it out I say. As for Gainesville, that one picked up some serious steam on this thread and I've been spending ample time with this very fine audience recording over the past 18 hours or so. Not being all too familiar with the explicit year of 1980, aside from the scant officially released shows / compilations, I definitely find this show packed full of energy. I think in the past I sort of subconsciously avoided this year, and early 80s in particular due to the fact that inherently, the songs were shorter and thus I assumed less jammy or intense or whatever. What I have learned, however, as my ears and attitude got adjusted to the different style & take on how they played (aka...fast/faster), I've learned they are very good at "getting to the point" in the jams, hence things moving along a little more quickly than if they took their sweet ass time. I am happy with myself that I've sort of stuck with it in that sense, and allowed my ears/mind/expectations to fall in-line with the reality of their playing during this period. I'll also say that 30 Trips helped to break down this barrier for me as well, even if the sound quality on a few of those are a bit questionable. Nonetheless, I'd never have been exposed to this Gainesville phenomenon as well as a lot of other gems without the input from Yous All - Appreciation Factor = Level 69 Sixtus
February 1, 2018 - 4:17am

#2625

UTAH_Caveman_777

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RE: HDCD

Thanks for the feedback regarding HDCD players. It looks like it's going to be difficult finding a player that decodes HDCD. Microsoft owns the rights to the technology, and it didn't become a mainstream digital source. Either way, we're lucky to have high quality GD.
February 1, 2018 - 2:52am

#2626

daverock

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Bombastic 77 Dark-Star

Nice analysis of how and why the bands sound changed after 1974. I have never read of a reason why Weir changed from a Gibson hollow body to and Ibanez-but what you say makes sense. Having said that, the Dead cd I was listening to this morning was Dicks Picks 28, which features highlights from 26th and 28th February 1973. The photographs inside show Weir playing a Gibson SG, which has been used by some very loud guitarists-Angus Young, Tony Iommi and Pete Townsend come to mind. Maybe there was another reason why he retired that one. Maybe he liked the thin sound of the Ibanez! I haven't received the new Daves Picks yet. The 1973 shows quoted above are excellent-very much featuring the earlier non bombastic Dead. There is so much clarity in the sound, with no distortion or use of volume for dramatic effect. Very untypical for a rock band from 1973. I do like the heavier handed approach of 1977-1978, and am looking forward to hearing the new release-but the playing in 1973 (and 1972 and 1974) was of a different order entirely.
January 31, 2018 - 10:53pm

#2627

Vguy72

Joined:
June 29, 2007

Jinx!!...

....load me a bowl.
January 31, 2018 - 10:38pm

#2628

SkullTrip

Joined:
January 11, 2018

Straw

Damn. The potato's back in my hands. Well, at least it feels a little cooler after its trip around the board.
January 31, 2018 - 10:38pm

#2629

Vguy72

Joined:
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Baked Alaska Box....

....oh. It will happen. Just biding our time.
January 31, 2018 - 10:22pm

#2630

dantian74

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Thanks libertycaps97211

You finally cured me from posting here :)

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"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

So what’s the sound quality?

Over bassified or not?

burtonh

Your comment is right on, and I know others have said it. We are so so so so so fortunate to have all of these recordings. I can't believe this is the only band who did this, but so be it, I don't think too many other bands of the 70s switched it up as much, improvised as much, or had as many nuances as the Grateful Dead. So it's truly worth it for Deadheads. I can't imagine I would want to hear the Stones doing the same set list every night

#8484 & top 10

Dave’s 25 Arrived today in NY... Woo-Hoo Top 10, always tough to nail down Hard to Handle Eyes Shakedown Bertha Music Never Stopped Dark Star Caution Other One Sugar Mags Scarlet Keep on Keepin it on ;)

10 minutes in

Sound stunning - upgrade significant. High/low balance good. Cover art is in the top 4 of the DaP series. Not a skeleton art fan, but this is gorgeous. Is this the last show Jerry played the white Travis Bean?

Fave songs are the "fake Reggae" or Funky type ones

EyesEstimated Crazy Fingers Row Jimmy Shakedown M. Half Step T. Jed Help>Slip>Frank U.S. Blues Something about those slower tempos and the GoGD that really does it for me. Other Rock bands rarely to never even try to go there. Never as successfully as the GoGD. Billy is a in-the-pocket player.

#2001 arrived in WA state, Lists

Funny to see what people don't really enjoy as well haha, the ones that come to my mind are 'Never Trust a Woman', 'Man Smart Women Smarter', and Samson and Delilah. Those are pretty much the only songs I will skip. Though I have heard some nice reggae sounding jams arounf Man Smart Women Smarter, 3-16-90 is an example. DaP 25 arrived this evening here in Washington State, for anyone wondering if they've made it this far yet.

DaP 25 - first listen

As mentioned by others, superb sound quality. Just a real treat to have these shows sound this good. One thing I’ve not heard mentioned is the incredibly dynamic Wharf Rat from this show. This has always been one of my favorites songs but this one is truly unlike any I remember. A tad shaky going back into St. Stephen but this will remain one of my favorites.

My fave Grateful Dead list from last night?....

....sweep it under the rug. I left out so many songs. Now I feel guilty. No Jack Straw? C'mon Vguy. Get it together man.

Jerry Garcia guitar history

Just something to look at... http://dozin.com/jers/guitar/history.htm

Wilfredtjones

Cool post on Jerry’s guitars!

the shipping direction makes

the shipping direction makes no sense. I live in Indiana. it shipped out from Illinois, then to TN (which makes no sense cuz TN and IL don't connect at all so it went through KY as well) then back up to Ohio. it pretty much went through every fucking state around me. instead of going straight from Illinois to Indiana. the u.s. postal service fucks me every which way everytime and doesn't bother to kiss me first....GOD DAMMNIT I HATE THE U.S. POSTAL SERVICE!

#4404 in Mountain View

Alright i'm convincing myself this is the best Mississippi Uptown i've heard. Wow right out the gate. I went through the first CD, and then decided to bookend it, Mississippi Uptown followed by The Music Never Stopped. Indeed! Got that feeling that i've had at many shows, everything's gonna be alright. Pull all three CDs out, and check out the tree. Warren, there's fresh dry powder for you. Ski on and thank you for the skiing thrills. Slow Dog Noodle, I've skied the bumps like that, kinda happy lazy. Libertycaps, Nice to see your source...dynaco mk III's et al. i'm playin' through some '59 el34 Ampex monoblocs into some same-era Wharfedale SFB-3s. :-) Delivery was first quoted Wednesday next week, then Saturday but the USPS delivered it tonight! My mind was happy to drop work for this...peace to those waiting

Everything's gonna be alright....

....that is/was my safe word also when I get/got too high at shows. It works. Believe me. It works like the Dupree's from Binghamton. They tuned that song all tour and expelled its drippiness that evening in all it's glory. Wonderful! Donna's in tune. The world was alright that night.

Top 50

I guess I'll play along. Like a few others, I cheated a little by including well-known combos as one song: 1) Bird Song 2) Scarlet>Fire 3) Chinacat>Rider 4) Help>Slip>Franklins 5) Brokedown Palace 6) Estimated>Eyes 7) Here Comes Sunshine 8) Stella Blue 9) Loser 10) Jack Straw 11) Morning Dew 12) Wharf Rat 13) Brown Eyed Women 14) Bertha 15) Dark Star 16) Mountains of the Moon 17) Playing in the Band 18) Mississippi Half Step 19) Crazy Fingers 20) Truckin’ 21) The Other One 22) Terrapin 23) Easy Wind 24) Comes a Time 25) Sugaree 26) Black-Throated Wind 27) St. Stephen 28) New Speedway Boogie 29) Sugar Magnolia 30) West LA Fadeaway 31) Dire Wolf 32) U.S. Blues 33) Friend of the Devil 34) Touch of Grey 35) Ripple 36) Black Peter 37) Candyman 38) Throwin’ Stones 39) Shakedown St. 40) Cassidy 41) High Time 42) Alabama Getaway 43) Althea 44) Music Never Stopped 45) Big Railroad Blues 46) Mr. Charlie 47) Weather Report Suite 48) Two Souls in Communion 49) Lost Sailor>Saint of Circumstance 50) Dupree’s Diamond Blues

top two

"Sitting around a tank or two of nitrous oxide one day at Pacific Recording, they all donned earphones and inserted from the tank into their mouths. All sound was fed through multichannel delay, so what ever was said would come back many times." Barbed Wire Whipping Party https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvaUKdwobSg&ab_channel=thewheel73 Oh yeah Stay in the general area (area, area, area) Stay in the general area etc What's the name of his stuff? Meat, meat, gimme my meat Meat, meat, gimme my meat Meat, meat, gimme my meat etc Hello, talk Talk, talk, talk Stay in the general area The barbed wire whipping party in the razor blade forest ?Sweet five me? my fangs could unravel you , mister ?? Give me cold blood, barbed wire, naked on the table, laughing No ? is permitted There's more here than you could choke down in ten thousand years The other day I went to Mars and talked to God And he told me to tell you to hang tight and don't worry 'Cause the solution to everything is death What's Become Of The Baby Aoxomoxoa - Original Mix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6P7eev95es&ab_channel=kengorski Grateful Dead Live at the Electric Theater 4/26/69 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpzPxsPAL0U&ab_channel=Larryal-Shiva Robert Hunter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qew_8Lhg9E0&ab_channel=AlligatorWhine Phil Lesh And Friends 12/17/04 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvPdI0USSPk&ab_channel=smolderingmilage Waves of violet go crashing and laughing Rainbow winged singing birds fly round the sun Sunbells rain down in a liquid profusion Mermaids on porpoises draw up the dawn What's become of the baby This cold December morning? Songbirds frozen in their flight drifting to the earth remnants of forgotten dreaming Calling... answer comes there none Go to sleep you child Dream of never ending always Panes of crystal Eyes sparkle like waterfalls lighting the polished ice caverns of Khan But where in the looking-glass fields of illusion wandered the child who was perfect as dawn? What's become of the Baby this cold December morning? Racing rhythms of the sun all the world revolves captured in the eye of Odin Allah Pray where are you now? All Mohammed's men blinded by the sparkling water Sheherazade gathering stories to tell from primal gold fantasy petals that fall But where is the child who played with the sun chimes and chased the cloud sheep to the regions of rhyme? Stranded cries the south wind Lost in the regions of lead Shackled by chains of illusion Delusions of living and dead

Binghamton has "that's IT!" moments galore....

....I bet they were really high. Pulling it all together while letting it all loose at the same time. Amazing. Sounds awesome too. Fuckin' Norman. Doing his Norman wizard magic. I tip my pipe....

Woo Hoo

It made the 3 hour drive from La Vergne in 4 hours 6 min, and is now at the local distribution facility. Just needs to make it to my local post office, onto the truck, into my mailbox, and into my hand before tomorrow night..... Calm down Kyle, your CD was never in IL, it was in TN and is now headed your way. The shipping label was generated in IL and electronically transferred to TN. Speaking of which, ABCD Enterprises is located in IL, and the shipping labels are generated in IL, coincidence......?

#7705 arrives

Good lord, that Mississippi Half Step! Back in the day I had ~600 tapes and '77 was very well represented. But looking over the tour dates now, I realize that I never had any of the shows from November. So this is my first time hearing this Binghamton gig. It's going on 11:00pm and Jack Straw is just underway. It's going to be a long and rip-roaring night! Peace, everybody...

Slow dog noodle

That’s about the only way I can do moguls these days.....my knees are getting old....Powder is so much easier. Ski on Warren.....

This show....

....is nothing like I expected, but everything I wanted it to be. Good night.

Passenger!!

Yow!! a cool slower Passenger!! Number 6444 has landed!! So cool on a Friday night after a big production day. I'm exhausted and just happy with this grate new music. So far just the first set. Maybe this has already been said, Kieth is really up in the mix, almost too much, but he is playing so good so creatively. I'm having a hard time hearing Bobby, maybe needs some EQ. I love all years/periods/keyboards and prefer complete shows although I'll still dig a cool compilation like with road trips. Hey all in deadland, enjoy!!

Day-um!

Really sweet show, great freakin’ sound.

Travis Bean

Jerry was back on Wolf not the Travis, it says in the liner notes. Thank god too, both are nice but that Wolf is something else! LOVE this show! Wharf rat.

Beth and Joe

This just came out yesterday, the whole album is stellar. In the vein of Imelda May and Etta James, but with more grease, and Joe Bonamassa's wicked guitar soloing on every song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHjD_M_0J70 \m/

Thanks Dave L... Mark...Jeffrey...Rhino

Just finished my first listen through... I was at Rochester and Binghamton (Syracuse University grad) and of course that weekend was and always will be my most memorable music event. These releases I say are produced and delivered to us with perfection intended from you guys.. I can't thank you folks enough, with much gratitude, Neil Glotzer, Visalia, California...

When In Rome . . .

"THE PINK FLOYD EXHIBITION: Their Mortal Remains" just re-opened in Rome: https://www.pinkfloydexhibition.com/ Thanks DavidD for the tasty history of What's Become of the Baby? from Aoxomoxoa to PLF. Still digesting the Barbed Wire Whipping Party hors d'oeuvre. Nice to see WBOTB? on a couple of favorites lists. Looks like my Dave's 25 will drop here in west Texas on Monday after pin-balling around the Mail Innovations maze for over a week.

Wolf on 11/6/77?

I don't have mine yet, but I am surpised at the post indicating the liner notes say Jerry played the Wolf at Binghamton. The DP 10 liner notes say he switched over for Tha Winterland show in late December.

return of Wolf

I cannot confirm the veracity of the info. here, but according to this page the return of Wolf was 9/28/77... http://www.dozin.com/jers/guitars/wolf/wolf.htm

DP 25 unopened 4 Sale

I will part with a copy of DP 25 shipped to you for 45 dollars. afperrone@liberty.edu

Just started listening....

Sounds great , great energy. It's so worth it to have these in the best quality possible. We are lucky in that respect, I appreciate the job Dave & Co. are doing! Thanks man!'77 was a great year! Was there a bad show that year? lol

Progress......

Mine departed Mail Innovations enroute to my local post office. I generally get my mail around 7 pm so hopefully it gets on the mail truck today.......Fingers crossed....

Vermont

I got a rock

top 10 w/ some singularly great versions

china>rider 9/2/80help>slip!>franklin's 10/11/77 terrapin 4/25/77 estimated>eyes 7/8/78 (w/ O1 after estimated) bertha 4/19/78 dark star '69 thru '74 playing in the band 1/15/78 uncle john's band 5/19/77 wharf rat 11/14/71 the other one 5/25/77 p.s. my DaP 25 is 'out for delivery' a day early, yay! -edit- there's no way Shakedown or Scarlet>Fire can't be on the top 10 for me, so I'll add those... shakedown 3/24/81 scarlet>fire 2/5/78

Mr. Postman

Wait a minuteMr. Postman (Please Mr. Postman look and see) Oh yeah (If there's a Dave's Pick in your bag for me) Please, please, Mr. Postman (Why's it takin' such a long time) Oh yeah (For me to hear that Band of mine) There must be some word today From Dead.Net so far away Please Mr. Postman look and see If there's a package of CD's for me I've been standin' here Waitin' Mr. Postman so patiently For just a card or just a letter Sayin' DaP25's been sent to me Mister Postman (Mister Postman look and see) Oh yeah (If there's a miracle in your bag for me) Please, please, Mr. Postman (Why's it takin' such a long time) Oh yeah So many days you passed me by See the tears standin' in my eyes You didn't stop to make me feel better By leavin' me a miracle or better Mister Postman (Mister Postman look and see) Oh yeah (If there's a letter in your bag for me) Please, please, Mr. Postman (Why's it takin' such a long time) Why don't you check it and see one more time for me???

"Ten years the waves roll the ships home from the sea"

12.27.80 a beautiful song "If I tell another what your own lips told to me, let me lay 'neath the roses, let my eyes no longer see"

Cover art

Stone-age version of Photoshop and a CD cover scan produced this: https://tinyurl.com/y8n64aco

Dave’s Picks 24 ?

My pc reads the disc’s as Dave’s picks 24 he, he, he I don’t care

9561

...In my hot little hands...that is all

Another high number, 9398

But, who cares? It's here!! :-)

129

Arrived in MT yesterday, just finishing up a first listen this afternoon. Sounds good, some cool slower tempo versions of a few songs with a nice jammy feel, great Scarlet-Fire with a great transition. The whole thing is really hitting the spot for me this afternoon.

Old school

https://i.imgur.com/mcPtYqp.jpg

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Daves picks new artist :)

....check out the new artist for 2018 Daves Picks :) https://www.mcdonaghillustration.com ...I love this lion ! https://static1.squarespace.com/static/595a34a4f5e2318b22723c77/595abcb…

15246

I got mine in Raleigh NC today. I have a question, as this is my first time doing the subscription. Is the bonus disk sent separately (today's delivery was only the 3 disk V25)? And is it one disc for the year, or one bonus for each of the four releases?Thanks

Re: Mr. Postman

iGrateful you definitely deserve a delivery after reworking those lyrics! Hope it reaches you soon.

"UUCowboy2014" , It'll be included with the next release

And with that extra disc, you get a another full show. 5 shows for the price of 4, pretty cool , I'll take it!

Bonus disc

The bonus disc is released with the second volume of the year. This year 11/17/71 is the Pick, with filler from 12/14/71, and the bonus disc completes 12/14. Unknown at this point which set is on which disc, but I'd predict the bonus disc is set 2. Though, if I bought a la carte, and missed out on the second set, I'd be bummed. But it always pays to subscribe!

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