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    "We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

    We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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  • Mind-Left-Body
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    For RFK 6/10/73, I believe it would sell 15K in one weekend, either individually or paired with the RFK show from the night before. In this situation there is a hugely popular show from a hugely popular year. If I were Rhino, I would do the pair. I would limit it to 15K and include a small book (like FW 1969), but I would press 20K and immediately put the extra 5K on sale after the initial sellout, but exclude the book and call it the music only edition. That way the urgency is created for the initial 15K, and it goes fast. Then when everyone is peeved they didn't get one, you announce the music only copies that are available. No, that's dishonest, I wouldn't do that.
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    My Take on July 1978
    Some good points made. I think a lot of factors are involved. I think 1978 is not as lauded a year in Dead legend as say, 1977. I think if it had only been a two-show set with the Red Rocks nights, it would have sold out 15K pretty quickly. But for $129 and 5 shows from a year that's often regarded as "shakey" in terms of performance, I believe some folks either opted out, or bought 7/8 only. That is my second thought - the fact that 7/8 was the big cornerstone show of the box, and that it is available individually, must have hurt the box set sales (it's not like the Cornell box set, where there were several extremely popular shows included). Some folks are just nor "completists", and can sleep at night knowing there are available shows on the store shelf. I don't happen to be one of them - I broke out in a cold sweat when I got the news of the box set and didn't have my wallet nearby. Like Jim pointed out, it was available for download for a while. Who knows how many were sold. There are certainly a good deal of regular posters here who indicate they prefer downloads over physical product. Surely they represent a larger number of people who do not post regularly. There was also a lot of discussion when it was announced, that the set lists were not that much different from a good number of other releases, such as May and June 1977. The non-completists who may have considered a 1978 box may have decided against it because of this. This one may be a bigger factor than we think. Imagine if it had been Fall '78, and we had songs like Stagger Lee, Shakedown Street, I Need a Miracle, etc. That would be something new-ish and unique, something marketable. So for my part, (aside from being a completist), there was enough nuance between '77 and '78 to warrant buying July 1978 Complete Recordings; but for some I think, $129 for essentially the same batch of songs as May and June 1977 (as well as a dozen single show releases from Dick's Picks, Dave's Picks, Road Trips, 30 Trips, DL Series), it just wasn't a priority, particularly when Red Rocks 7/8 was available a la carte. Anyway, it will sell out soon enough, I think there are only like 1500 left. Still a winner for Rhino, as I'm sure they sold enough to make money. The rest is trickle-in gravy. And a winner for Rhino is a winner for us :D Have a great weekend everybody. Jellyroll will drive you stone mad.
  • JimInMD
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    Good point Jeff.. Surely that had an impact on the non-completest among us. It is the cornerstone show, and arguably the best in the box (though currently not my go to show from this set).
  • David Duryea
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    A couple of friends and I ditched our afternoon classes to drive out to a high school in Glendale to see Buffalo Springfield for free in the auditorium in 1966. Forty-five years later paid $173 to see this reunion show at the Fox Theater in Oakland. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dmZe2igiMQ&ab_channel=dakind2
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  • icecrmcnkd
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    78 Box
    1621 remaining, according to David D. It didn’t go on sale in December, probably too soon to cut the price and piss off the rest of us. What did go on sale in December was the 8-27-72 CD/BluRay for $14 less than I paid 3-4 weeks earlier. That was annoying. I had the DVD but decided to buy the BluRay to see if it had a better picture. Nope, how could you improve grainy 1972 film. But it does have 24/192 audio. 78 Box is awesome, especially the non-Red Rocks shows that didn’t previously circulate. It’s not prominently displayed on the main page, but May 77 AME is. Jim has a good point about it disappearing for a few months, then reappearing, but was probably sidelined due to the May 77 hoopla. RFK 73 will sell out 20,000 units quickly. It’s hot, hot, hot. It’s pre-hiatus, which a lot of people want.
  • stoltzfus
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    looks like a vat of baked beans
    love the "JERRY" label
  • stoltzfus
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    if everyone would be more adult about it...
    6/9/73 and 6/10/73 would be a smart release. ABB gets some cash, not just the GD. I don't know what it's like to wrangle the sums of money tenured bands deal with, but if I had a chance to get a seven-figure sum, I would freakin' do it. best of all, us crazies get some more classic, classic, classic music to listen to and enjoy for eternity.
  • Thin
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    6/10/73 would sellout?
    I love 1973 and find it bizarre that theres a 6 month swath of 1973 in the vault that is completely untouched. BUT if the HIGHLY-lauded and mythical Red Rocks box is now almost 2 years old and not sold out, I find it hard to believe this would be an immediate sellout (at the standard 15k units.) Though it would certainly sell better than the 1989 RFK box (ONLY 5,000 left! Hurry! - LOL) Agree the 6/10/73 Dead show is fantastic and would like to see it released, but my recollection of the ABB stage-sharing 3rd set is typical of most guest appearances - one imagines a fantasy pairing where giants stand on each others shoulders for previously unimaginable heights. 1+1 =3!!! But instead its executed with all the grace of a 3-legged race. Everyone's a little tentative trying to figure out whose solo it is, and not step on toes... Sure they execute the songs competently and its interesting to figure out who's playing what, but the musical product has no magical moments that pull me back. It's more curiosity than virtuosity... 1+1=0.8, musically. If I'm missing any TRULY golden moments from this set, please enlighten me. I also have trouble imagining the Allmans would allow an entire disc of Allmans/Dead to be released under the Dead label considering the bad blood that existed between the bands in later years (after Gregg's manager went to jail due to Gregg testifying against him in order to get immunity in a drug case where the manager was holding/sourcing HIS stash, and Jerry PUBLICLY shamed him for it in an interview.) But Dave & Co. found a compromise for the complicated returned Betty's situation, so maybe there's hope here too.
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    if you don't have the 78 box yet, get it
    it is worth it for 7/7/78 and 7/8/78 alone
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"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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Your comment is right on, and I know others have said it. We are so so so so so fortunate to have all of these recordings. I can't believe this is the only band who did this, but so be it, I don't think too many other bands of the 70s switched it up as much, improvised as much, or had as many nuances as the Grateful Dead. So it's truly worth it for Deadheads. I can't imagine I would want to hear the Stones doing the same set list every night
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Dave’s 25 Arrived today in NY... Woo-Hoo Top 10, always tough to nail down Hard to Handle Eyes Shakedown Bertha Music Never Stopped Dark Star Caution Other One Sugar Mags Scarlet Keep on Keepin it on ;)
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Sound stunning - upgrade significant. High/low balance good. Cover art is in the top 4 of the DaP series. Not a skeleton art fan, but this is gorgeous. Is this the last show Jerry played the white Travis Bean?
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EyesEstimated Crazy Fingers Row Jimmy Shakedown M. Half Step T. Jed Help>Slip>Frank U.S. Blues Something about those slower tempos and the GoGD that really does it for me. Other Rock bands rarely to never even try to go there. Never as successfully as the GoGD. Billy is a in-the-pocket player.
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Funny to see what people don't really enjoy as well haha, the ones that come to my mind are 'Never Trust a Woman', 'Man Smart Women Smarter', and Samson and Delilah. Those are pretty much the only songs I will skip. Though I have heard some nice reggae sounding jams arounf Man Smart Women Smarter, 3-16-90 is an example. DaP 25 arrived this evening here in Washington State, for anyone wondering if they've made it this far yet.
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As mentioned by others, superb sound quality. Just a real treat to have these shows sound this good. One thing I’ve not heard mentioned is the incredibly dynamic Wharf Rat from this show. This has always been one of my favorites songs but this one is truly unlike any I remember. A tad shaky going back into St. Stephen but this will remain one of my favorites.
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Cool post on Jerry’s guitars!
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the shipping direction makes no sense. I live in Indiana. it shipped out from Illinois, then to TN (which makes no sense cuz TN and IL don't connect at all so it went through KY as well) then back up to Ohio. it pretty much went through every fucking state around me. instead of going straight from Illinois to Indiana. the u.s. postal service fucks me every which way everytime and doesn't bother to kiss me first....GOD DAMMNIT I HATE THE U.S. POSTAL SERVICE!
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Alright i'm convincing myself this is the best Mississippi Uptown i've heard. Wow right out the gate. I went through the first CD, and then decided to bookend it, Mississippi Uptown followed by The Music Never Stopped. Indeed! Got that feeling that i've had at many shows, everything's gonna be alright. Pull all three CDs out, and check out the tree. Warren, there's fresh dry powder for you. Ski on and thank you for the skiing thrills. Slow Dog Noodle, I've skied the bumps like that, kinda happy lazy. Libertycaps, Nice to see your source...dynaco mk III's et al. i'm playin' through some '59 el34 Ampex monoblocs into some same-era Wharfedale SFB-3s. :-) Delivery was first quoted Wednesday next week, then Saturday but the USPS delivered it tonight! My mind was happy to drop work for this...peace to those waiting
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....that is/was my safe word also when I get/got too high at shows. It works. Believe me. It works like the Dupree's from Binghamton. They tuned that song all tour and expelled its drippiness that evening in all it's glory. Wonderful! Donna's in tune. The world was alright that night.
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I guess I'll play along. Like a few others, I cheated a little by including well-known combos as one song: 1) Bird Song 2) Scarlet>Fire 3) Chinacat>Rider 4) Help>Slip>Franklins 5) Brokedown Palace 6) Estimated>Eyes 7) Here Comes Sunshine 8) Stella Blue 9) Loser 10) Jack Straw 11) Morning Dew 12) Wharf Rat 13) Brown Eyed Women 14) Bertha 15) Dark Star 16) Mountains of the Moon 17) Playing in the Band 18) Mississippi Half Step 19) Crazy Fingers 20) Truckin’ 21) The Other One 22) Terrapin 23) Easy Wind 24) Comes a Time 25) Sugaree 26) Black-Throated Wind 27) St. Stephen 28) New Speedway Boogie 29) Sugar Magnolia 30) West LA Fadeaway 31) Dire Wolf 32) U.S. Blues 33) Friend of the Devil 34) Touch of Grey 35) Ripple 36) Black Peter 37) Candyman 38) Throwin’ Stones 39) Shakedown St. 40) Cassidy 41) High Time 42) Alabama Getaway 43) Althea 44) Music Never Stopped 45) Big Railroad Blues 46) Mr. Charlie 47) Weather Report Suite 48) Two Souls in Communion 49) Lost Sailor>Saint of Circumstance 50) Dupree’s Diamond Blues
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"Sitting around a tank or two of nitrous oxide one day at Pacific Recording, they all donned earphones and inserted from the tank into their mouths. All sound was fed through multichannel delay, so what ever was said would come back many times." Barbed Wire Whipping Party https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvaUKdwobSg&ab_channel=thewheel73 Oh yeah Stay in the general area (area, area, area) Stay in the general area etc What's the name of his stuff? Meat, meat, gimme my meat Meat, meat, gimme my meat Meat, meat, gimme my meat etc Hello, talk Talk, talk, talk Stay in the general area The barbed wire whipping party in the razor blade forest ?Sweet five me? my fangs could unravel you , mister ?? Give me cold blood, barbed wire, naked on the table, laughing No ? is permitted There's more here than you could choke down in ten thousand years The other day I went to Mars and talked to God And he told me to tell you to hang tight and don't worry 'Cause the solution to everything is death What's Become Of The Baby Aoxomoxoa - Original Mix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6P7eev95es&ab_channel=kengorski Grateful Dead Live at the Electric Theater 4/26/69 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpzPxsPAL0U&ab_channel=Larryal-Shiva Robert Hunter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qew_8Lhg9E0&ab_channel=AlligatorWhine Phil Lesh And Friends 12/17/04 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvPdI0USSPk&ab_channel=smolderingmilage Waves of violet go crashing and laughing Rainbow winged singing birds fly round the sun Sunbells rain down in a liquid profusion Mermaids on porpoises draw up the dawn What's become of the baby This cold December morning? Songbirds frozen in their flight drifting to the earth remnants of forgotten dreaming Calling... answer comes there none Go to sleep you child Dream of never ending always Panes of crystal Eyes sparkle like waterfalls lighting the polished ice caverns of Khan But where in the looking-glass fields of illusion wandered the child who was perfect as dawn? What's become of the Baby this cold December morning? Racing rhythms of the sun all the world revolves captured in the eye of Odin Allah Pray where are you now? All Mohammed's men blinded by the sparkling water Sheherazade gathering stories to tell from primal gold fantasy petals that fall But where is the child who played with the sun chimes and chased the cloud sheep to the regions of rhyme? Stranded cries the south wind Lost in the regions of lead Shackled by chains of illusion Delusions of living and dead
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....I bet they were really high. Pulling it all together while letting it all loose at the same time. Amazing. Sounds awesome too. Fuckin' Norman. Doing his Norman wizard magic. I tip my pipe....
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It made the 3 hour drive from La Vergne in 4 hours 6 min, and is now at the local distribution facility. Just needs to make it to my local post office, onto the truck, into my mailbox, and into my hand before tomorrow night..... Calm down Kyle, your CD was never in IL, it was in TN and is now headed your way. The shipping label was generated in IL and electronically transferred to TN. Speaking of which, ABCD Enterprises is located in IL, and the shipping labels are generated in IL, coincidence......?
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Good lord, that Mississippi Half Step! Back in the day I had ~600 tapes and '77 was very well represented. But looking over the tour dates now, I realize that I never had any of the shows from November. So this is my first time hearing this Binghamton gig. It's going on 11:00pm and Jack Straw is just underway. It's going to be a long and rip-roaring night! Peace, everybody...
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That’s about the only way I can do moguls these days.....my knees are getting old....Powder is so much easier. Ski on Warren.....
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....is nothing like I expected, but everything I wanted it to be. Good night.
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Yow!! a cool slower Passenger!! Number 6444 has landed!! So cool on a Friday night after a big production day. I'm exhausted and just happy with this grate new music. So far just the first set. Maybe this has already been said, Kieth is really up in the mix, almost too much, but he is playing so good so creatively. I'm having a hard time hearing Bobby, maybe needs some EQ. I love all years/periods/keyboards and prefer complete shows although I'll still dig a cool compilation like with road trips. Hey all in deadland, enjoy!!
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Really sweet show, great freakin’ sound.
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Jerry was back on Wolf not the Travis, it says in the liner notes. Thank god too, both are nice but that Wolf is something else! LOVE this show! Wharf rat.
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Just finished my first listen through... I was at Rochester and Binghamton (Syracuse University grad) and of course that weekend was and always will be my most memorable music event. These releases I say are produced and delivered to us with perfection intended from you guys.. I can't thank you folks enough, with much gratitude, Neil Glotzer, Visalia, California...
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"THE PINK FLOYD EXHIBITION: Their Mortal Remains" just re-opened in Rome: https://www.pinkfloydexhibition.com/ Thanks DavidD for the tasty history of What's Become of the Baby? from Aoxomoxoa to PLF. Still digesting the Barbed Wire Whipping Party hors d'oeuvre. Nice to see WBOTB? on a couple of favorites lists. Looks like my Dave's 25 will drop here in west Texas on Monday after pin-balling around the Mail Innovations maze for over a week.
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I don't have mine yet, but I am surpised at the post indicating the liner notes say Jerry played the Wolf at Binghamton. The DP 10 liner notes say he switched over for Tha Winterland show in late December.
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Sounds great , great energy. It's so worth it to have these in the best quality possible. We are lucky in that respect, I appreciate the job Dave & Co. are doing! Thanks man!'77 was a great year! Was there a bad show that year? lol
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Mine departed Mail Innovations enroute to my local post office. I generally get my mail around 7 pm so hopefully it gets on the mail truck today.......Fingers crossed....
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I got a rock
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china>rider 9/2/80help>slip!>franklin's 10/11/77 terrapin 4/25/77 estimated>eyes 7/8/78 (w/ O1 after estimated) bertha 4/19/78 dark star '69 thru '74 playing in the band 1/15/78 uncle john's band 5/19/77 wharf rat 11/14/71 the other one 5/25/77 p.s. my DaP 25 is 'out for delivery' a day early, yay! -edit- there's no way Shakedown or Scarlet>Fire can't be on the top 10 for me, so I'll add those... shakedown 3/24/81 scarlet>fire 2/5/78
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Wait a minuteMr. Postman (Please Mr. Postman look and see) Oh yeah (If there's a Dave's Pick in your bag for me) Please, please, Mr. Postman (Why's it takin' such a long time) Oh yeah (For me to hear that Band of mine) There must be some word today From Dead.Net so far away Please Mr. Postman look and see If there's a package of CD's for me I've been standin' here Waitin' Mr. Postman so patiently For just a card or just a letter Sayin' DaP25's been sent to me Mister Postman (Mister Postman look and see) Oh yeah (If there's a miracle in your bag for me) Please, please, Mr. Postman (Why's it takin' such a long time) Oh yeah So many days you passed me by See the tears standin' in my eyes You didn't stop to make me feel better By leavin' me a miracle or better Mister Postman (Mister Postman look and see) Oh yeah (If there's a letter in your bag for me) Please, please, Mr. Postman (Why's it takin' such a long time) Why don't you check it and see one more time for me???
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My pc reads the disc’s as Dave’s picks 24 he, he, he I don’t care
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...In my hot little hands...that is all
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Arrived in MT yesterday, just finishing up a first listen this afternoon. Sounds good, some cool slower tempo versions of a few songs with a nice jammy feel, great Scarlet-Fire with a great transition. The whole thing is really hitting the spot for me this afternoon.
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I got mine in Raleigh NC today. I have a question, as this is my first time doing the subscription. Is the bonus disk sent separately (today's delivery was only the 3 disk V25)? And is it one disc for the year, or one bonus for each of the four releases?Thanks
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iGrateful you definitely deserve a delivery after reworking those lyrics! Hope it reaches you soon.
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The bonus disc is released with the second volume of the year. This year 11/17/71 is the Pick, with filler from 12/14/71, and the bonus disc completes 12/14. Unknown at this point which set is on which disc, but I'd predict the bonus disc is set 2. Though, if I bought a la carte, and missed out on the second set, I'd be bummed. But it always pays to subscribe!
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:( Made it to the post office but not out for delivery today. I need a miracle. Sometimes the post office delivers packages, but not letters, on Sunday.....
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Walked down the driveway to get DaP25. Fell flat on my f'n back.(didn't tell Jenn)If you plant ice...
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