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    "We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

    We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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  • Mr_Heartbreak
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    So, according to that article from Jambase, "Pinkus...confirmed a collection of 80 soundboard tapes recorded by the famed Betty Cantor-Jackson have been added to the vault." Also according to that article, "the Grateful Dead recently unveiled a 50th anniversary edition of their 1967 studio album [and] Pinkus confirms a similar set for Anthem Of The Sun is coming [in 2018]." That means a couple of things: 1) The upcoming releases will be Betty Boards, which range in date from 1971-1980 at the latest. That means there is no need to come on any thread on the Grateful Dead website and start bitching and moaning about the lack of representation of latter era Dead. You all already know that, for the foreseeable future, the embarrassment of riches known as the Betty Boards will largely be mined for releases. 2) There will be no '68 box in 2018. From a basic marketing standpoint, it makes absolutely no sense to re-release a '68 album with (most likely) '68 live material and THEN turn around and release a '68 box separately. Not going to happen. Whatever box they do release this year will be from some other year, and it's a pretty safe bet it's a year between 1971 and 1979. I say all this as someone who rarely posts but often reads the Dave's Picks threads, and who is often dismayed to see the same old complaints from the same tiny vocal minority. I"m not part of some mythical "70s mafia," I'm just telling it like it is. Please don't come on here and bum everyone out by bitching and moaning about not getting what you want. The Dead are just about the only classic rock act cranking out release after release of archival material like clockwork. We're lucky to have so much material to choose from, and in such frequent quantity. And there's always the archive site to satisfy the remainder of your listening desires.
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    listen up at dead of the dayhttp://gratefuldeadoftheday.com/03-31-1968 load down at the midnight cafe Lossless Bootleg Bonanza: Grateful Dead – San Francisco, CA (03/31/68) 19_300a_lg Grateful Dead 68-03-31 Carousel Ballroom San Francisco, CA Download: FLAC/MP3 https://themidnightcafe.org/2017/03/21/lossless-bootleg-bonanza-gratefu… Recording Info: SBD -> (4 Track) Master Reels -> Dat (44.1k) This is a tagged version of shnid: 108995 Transfer Info: Dat (Sony R500) -> Adobe Audition v3.0 -> Samplitude Professional v11.03 -> FLAC (1 Disc Audio / 1 Disc FLAC) All Transfers and Mastering By Charlie Miller charliemiller87@earthlink.net June 13, 2010 Set 1: d1t01 – Turn On Your Lovelight d1t02 – Beat It On Down The Line d1t03 – Dancing In The Street d1t04 – Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) -> d1t05 – Feedback -> d1t06 – And We Bid You Good Night Notes: — There is a lot of audience mixed in with this soundboard — Date and song order are uncertain (I’m going with Dick’s notes on DAT) — This is the same Caution>Feedback>AWBYGN as I put on 1/22/68 (Per Dick’s notes) — Cut in the beginning of Turn On Your Lovelight — Severe mix changes during Dancing In The Street — Beginning of Caution is missing — Thanks to Rob Eaton for lending me his Dats — Thanks To Joe B. Jones for his help with the pitch correction
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    listen at dead of the day March 31, 1973 http://gratefuldeadoftheday.com/03-31-1973 Memorial Auditorium Buffalo, New York The night is tremendous from top to bottom, including everything from a perfectly rendered Box to a raging Playin’. However, the boys turn it up a notch further still in the latter portion of the second set. The He’s Gone leads the way, as the boys strut through, throwing all their emotion and verve into the playing and vocal vamping, before heading right into a boundless Truckin’. A plucky little jam after the Truckin’ - with some hints of Nobody’s Fault - provides a little change of pace. But then Billy takes us in a different direction altogether, thundering forward and powering through a segue into a monster Other One. TOO blisters out of the gate and then finds some slower, less traveled territory, summoning the bullfighters, paisanos, and flamenco of a Spanish Jam that they meld with the Other One theme for a while. Finally, TOO is left behind completely and they strike out into an extraterrestrial space, exploring distant galaxies before gathering into a bluesy country ramble that leads right to, quite unexpectedly, Rider. The Rider surges and soars, but holds on to a real bluegrassy feel throughout. After a pause, the band fires away with a full-bore Sugar Mags to put a rocking cap on the set.
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    someone decided to huck a beer bottle at Bill's drum set that night during Comes A Time.
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    ....always look on the bright side of life. Never tried fentanyl. Not a fan, thanks to recent news. How was it?
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    In a way, the old threads are more interesting and more like an acid test than new ones regarding recently announced product, where there is a bit more continuity to the posts. My last 72 hours have been surreal. Took the family up to Keystone Wednesday night for a Thursday day of tubing/skiing. Good times. Rocked Michael Schenker later that night at Cervante's Masterpiece Ballroom, a notable Dead-themed venue. Seeing Michael in there was a bit weird but not unpleasant. Went back to work Friday, and unexpectedly became ill and barfed into the wastebasket next to my desk. No one was around, fortunately I was able to change the bag and get it outside before grossing anyone out (except you, sorry). Took the rest of the day off, went home and was basically couch-bound until it was time for Davy Knowles, which I made it through. Was just a 24-hour stomach bug, I guess, my oldest son got it about 10 hours after I did. Davy Knowles is a young guitarist/singer from the Isle of Man over yonder 'cross the pond. He is amazing; just a mind-blowing talent. See him live if you get a chance. This morning, just after breakfast I experienced a massive attack of unbearable pain in my side and abdomen. Finally the wife drove me to hospital. Kidney stone. It took three shots of Fentanyl to take the edge off along with some other drugs. Eventually, they gave in and pumped me full of Dilaudid and sent me home. Couple of hours later, I passed it rather uneventfully. And now the Doc sent me home with a couple dozen more Dilaudid. I'm one of those people who can do just about anything without becoming dependent, so I think I'll save them for later, or, God forbid another kidney stone so I can ride the storm out without the trip to the E.R. Back in the saddle, just in time for an Easter gathering tomorrow here at the casa. Feel like I just came out the other side of the rabbit hole.
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    Well, damn muleskinner....
    ....I felt pressured just reading that!
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    Buddy Cage on BOTT, from A Simple Twist of Fate by Andy Gill & Kevin Odegard (Odegard played on the Minneapolis sessions for the album): --- Which is how, one night late in September 1974, Buddy Cage found himself alone in the vastness of A&R’s Studio A, perched over his pedal steel guitar, listening to Bob Dylan’s amazing new songs. If working with Dylan wasn’t a daunting enough prospect on its own, Buddy was further impressed to find Phil Ramone, probably the hottest producer in the country at that time, working as the engineer. “The Blood on the Tracks session was the first time I met Bob, “says Cage. “We went in there, just the three of us, and Bob says, “Where are the tunes for him, Phil?” Phil just pops it into gear and, like, sixteen, seventeen, or eighteen, somewhere in that region, masterpieces come out! I was, like, What the f***!? Dylan says, ‘Well, can you do anything? Would you like to start with one?’ I said, ‘Bob, the best thing I can do to help you is to pack up my guitar and go home.’ He said, ‘Well, thanks, man, but don’t you think you could play on one?’ then turns to Phil and says, ‘Phil, roll ‘em again.’ “Phil played ‘em over, and more in exasperation than anything, I said, ‘Maybe this one, or that one.’ I guess I did about three or four of them – but in any case, ‘Meet Me in the Morning’ was the one he kept for Blood on the Tracks. I was way out in this huge studio that could hold a full orchestra, a really large room, and I’m in the middle of it – just me, my steel, and my amp. I’d been doing sessions as long as I can remember, and the way I saw it was that Phil was going to run this thing, ‘Meet Me in the Morning’, for me and I was going to do a few takes - I usually get the best hits in the first two or three times through. An old Grateful Dead thing is never to stop recording it, and try to record more than you erase; so that was my approach: Let me do it two or three times, and you’ll have it – I’m that quick – and he can plug them in wherever he wants, the choices would be up to him and Bob. But that’s not what Dylan wanted, apparently: He ended up flashing the light time after time after time, and I found myself having to do six or seven takes.” Worse still, there was little guidance as to what was wrong with the interrupted takes. “Not only was my wrist getting tired, but there was no conversation, no instructions, no nothing,” Cage recalls, “just ‘Do it again, do it again.’ I was getting really uncomfortable. Then finally the door to the control room opened, and Dylan comes striding out, walks straight up to my steel, and sticks the toes of his cowboy boots under my pedal bar. I don’t know why he did that – maybe for emphasis. Anyway, he does that and says, ‘The first five verses is singin’ – you don’t play; the last verse is playin’ – you play!” plunks his toes out from under my pedal bar, turns, and strides back into the control room.” During the evening, the control room had begun to fill up with well-wishers and hangers-on, and as the shock over Dylan’s rudeness turned into anger at the singer’s disrespectful treatment of his instrument, the public humiliation spurred Cage to the brink of rage. “At that point, in the control room, there was him and Phil Ramone, Mick Jagger, my road manager, my crew chief, my limo driver and bodyguard, and John Hammond Sr., had come in to hear what I was doing,” says Cage, “and at that very instance, for about ten seconds, I was embarrassed to the bone marrow. But as I mentioned before, I was a punk-ass, and that just kicks in; that’s always the way it’s been with me, and I thought, ‘Well, you little f***, I’m taller than you, and you’re not gonna get away with that!’ Phil came on the phones then – he was clearly uncomfortable too – and he said, ‘You wanna practice one?’ and I said, ‘No – print it!’ “So the red light came on and I just did one take. I played lightly over the five verses, but the one where he wanted me to get major was on the verse with ‘Look at that sun, sinking like a ship.’” And get major he did. Fired up with fury, Cage peeled off a searing break that uncoiled through the song’s closing stages like an angry snake, providing a piquant counterpoint to the number’s relaxed, bluesy tone. Buddy knew he’d nailed it, and without waiting for any further intervention or possible humiliation, he stood up from his instrument with an air of brusque finality. “I had the picks and the bar off my hands and I was walking away from the guitar before the track was finished, striding into the control room,” he recalls. “When I busted into the control room, he was laughin’ his ass off! I looked at Ramone, and he was shakin’ his head, sayin’, ‘That was beautiful!’ John Hammond said, ‘Man that was unbelievable!’ I just looked at Dylan and said ‘F*** you!’ and he just laughed – he said, ‘Well, we got it!’ ---
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    Thanks for posting the Glendale Train, LMG. I've been on a mini NRPS kick here, mostly listening to their Veneta set in the car. Felt like it was a necessary piece of history to accompany the Sunshine Daydream release. Here's a full concert from just a few months earlier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZWw87UgrwI I didn't realize Garcia was actually on their first album, I knew he started it but didn't know that made it to record. I do like Buddy Cage, there was a great story of how Dylan pissed him off to get that mean pedal solo on Meet Me In The Morning on Blood on the Tracks. It worked.
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    Extra greasy 7 CD release.Wait. 7 CD’s only constitutes a mini-Box. We’re due a full-size Box. Extra greasy 7 show Box. Oh yeah, that’s the stuff. PTB, please have a 1 Box order limit for the first 72 hours, and give us a (Dead) Heads up in advance of the on sale time. Please give everyone a chance to score a Box of thick-cut, smokey, extra greasy bacon.
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"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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The four winds have blown #126 to its new home... Lowest number i've received by about 800 or so! Ive been listening with the help of a good friend after he got his on friday, what a show! Edit: did anyone else get a copy without that clear "discs made in mexico" sticker? Mine didnt have that on there this time. Wondering if they switched manufacturers again
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On the inside of the CD sleeve.. there is a picture of reel 2. There is a piece of blue painters tape on, likely indicating some sort of processing status (I don't think blue painters tape was around in 1977). There is also a sticker that says "Baked 10/10/17." I wonder what that is all about?
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Magnetic tape from a certain period back in the 60's and 70's had an issue where the magnetic backing can detach from the plastic tape so the tapes must actually be baked at a low temp in an oven in hopes that everything will reattach.
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Thanks Mustin and Rev Mike. ..that's what I thought, part of the restoration process, but I have not seen that before.. ..which reminds me, ......
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I heard that and wondered if that was the part you were talking about. It was more like the drummer(s) doing it a bit more aggressively than usual, because they followed the same pattern for a few measures. Usually if it was a mistake, you hear the self-correction measures. Bottom line - you didn't like it.
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Gee I hope they aren't running out of great shows. This is very mediocre. Most of it sounds phoned in to me.
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Can you hear me now?Can you hear me now? Yeah Lightfoot, No Made In Mexico sticker, mine said “Made In North Korea”. No seriously, good observation, hope production has been moved to a more reliable facility.
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From the page:Request: Individual Shows It’s in line with many past discussions, but not sure how many people visit that page, so I pasted it here. COMMENTSComment viewing options January 29, 2018 - 11:55am (new) #1 markscalise markscalise's picture Offline Joined: Jul 6 2007 criteria for releases Seems like it should fall around the following: 1. Is there a complete, high-quality version in the vault? 2. Does the show already circulate in high quality? 3. Was there something exceptional about the show compared to others in the same time period? 4. Has this time period already been well represented in the stream of releases, or is it lacking? Certainly some time periods will merit a larger number of releases. 5. From a sales standpoint, is there a perceived desire for a particular release? This one gets rather subjective.
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disc 2 doesn't do a whole lot for me, either. discs 1 and 3 are fine. I wouldn't call it mediocre. Of course, it ain't 5/11/72. but think of it like pizza: even when it's not that good, it's still all right.
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...not in my space & time at least. I'm a true believer of miracles and this show exceeds musical boundaries creating a musical testament of pure, unbound joy . A pure expression of joy, like the feeling of being at home. the Sun - the sound for the concert, done by Healy, was at his best with this show. Just listen to Betty's recording on this release, simply beautiful! This mix is quite frankly Stunning to say the least. Everybody is heard in pristine quality in all the right and wrong places...I'm love'n it more and more each day, :)
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listening to auditory caffeine (metallica's and justice for all). every time there's a commercial thingy, they are advertising for a Chrohn's disease medication. upbeat metal and chrohn's are not a great combination.
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...Great album! 'Ride The Lightning' one of my favorites...Sorry to stray off topic for a second ! My bad folks.....
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ever heard Squidward's "mediocre?" if you have you'll know what I mean. if not, oh well. "frayed ends of sanity", baby.
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Stoltzfus, maybe GD would sound better if you weren’t contaminating your ears with metal.Just saying.... Kind of like saying to Vguy that the Golden Knights are riding on beginner’s luck...... Oooooohhhhhh...... Them’s fightin’ words.... :)
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The FL Panthers won the cup their first season then slumped......
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You're right about me not liking it but you got me all wrong... ...I fucking love it. Just because one song is sloppy at the end for a little bit, that doesn't mean I'm not gonna listen to the show repeatedly. Beauty lies in the imperfections, I guess, because I'm addicted to the music. I got my copy on Saturday and I'm 3 listens in already...I'm just getting started.
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Duh . . . Healy mixing, Betty recording. Got it.
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Is there really that big of a difference on these MOBILE FIDELITY SOUND LAB recordings that are floating around out there of "CLASSIC" albums. I figure this would be a good group of folks to ask this question to. I appreciate any input.
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....I don't have the hearing of a canine. It all sounds good. Easy to pleasy to my inner ear. No help here. Sorry (~};)Good to hear icecrmcnkd got his. Crank it to 11!!! ps. The Florida Panthers have never won the Cup. Let alone in their first year. You're high....
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1. Dark Matter. Completely invisible to telescopes and the human eye, it neither emits nor absorbs visible light (or any form of electromagnetic radiation), but its gravitational effect is evident in the motions of galaxy clusters and individual stars. -Scientific community 2. Light like a feather, heavy as lead. How can you ever give your more to receive your less? -Bob Marley 3. Why can't my wife/girlfriend stop talking for even 5 minutes? How about just for the first 60 seconds when I walk through the door after work...just let me take my shoes off and throw my keys on the dresser before you start in. Is that really too much to ask? -Dantian, and every other male ever born.
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I'm so politically incorrect, ain't I? :)
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I have been buying Mobile Fidelity Lps for years. Started off with The Beatles box set a long time ago. Mobile Fidelity uses virgin vinyl and half-speed mastering from the original sound tapes. They spend a lot of time getting everything "just right." To me, at 71, nothing is more satisfying than a well made LP, a tube amp, and a "good" cold beer and a bowl of pipe tobacco in a well carved Grateful Dead meerschaum pipe. Getting back to the issue...if you are use to listening to Mp3 stuff and think it sounds great then I would suggest you do not bother. If you have a "good" stereo/headphones then by all means buy the dead on Mobile Fidelity. If I remember correctly some of the Dead's Lps are done on virgin vinyl. One has to look carefully at the notes on the covers. If you have a "favorite" dead LP then spend the money and treat yourself to a wonderful sonic experience. Life is short! The other question is how do they sound compared to all the new MQA/high digital downloads. I don't know and probably never will. Vinyl has a sound that is, to me, just sweet. I like holding the cover(s) in my aging fingers and reading the liner notes and reading about how the music was made. Lp people tend to want to sit down and "listen" to the music. It is a pain-in-the-butt to get up, every twenty minutes or so, and flip the lp but the satisfaction I get from it is worth all the hassles. If you are always in a hurry and are updating your facebook account every twenty two minutes than Lps are not for you. LPs, are for me, a way of taking the time to absorb the music experience. And yes...I do listen to Cd's. I have thousands of them. They sound good/great but the "experience" is NOT the same as listen to an LP... at least for me. It does my heart good to see people getting back to LPs...especially young people. One writer commented that the thought LPs were a spiritual thing. So, to answer the original question from and earlier post, there is a big difference between normal pressed Lp's and Mobile Fidelity Lp's. Is the price difference worth it...that is for you to decide. I have! Mr. Pete------> aging hippie
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I haven't bought any Mobile Fidelity L.Ps., but I have been buying more vinyl recently-and as you say, the experience of taking a record out of its sleeve, placing it on the turn table, and devoting 20 minutes to it is great-unique. I started buying albums in 1972, and its surprising to me how good most of them still sound. Also surprising that I though cds sounded better when they first came out. The powers of suggestion! Two L.P.s I have bought recently are the Jimi Hendrix double "Freedom"- the live show from Georgia om 4th July 1970 and Cream's "Wheel of Fire". They both sound very powerful, and seem to fill the speakers more than cds do. The cover of "Wheels of Fire" by Martin Sharp is also brilliant. The detail of this art work simply cannot be adequately replicated on smaller mediums like cds. I'll keep my eye open for Mobile Fidelity albums and see whats available.
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You are correct, the Panthers didn’t win a cup, they made it to the Finals but lost to the Avs. But due to my disdain for the Avs, I try not to acknowledge that win.
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Your send button is stuck, give it a jiggle :)
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My last several Dave's Picks have had creases, buckles, or dings on the spine. Not sure if they drop them or pull the wrap too tightly, or the post office crushes them. And I buy 3 each year for people. One I shipped to my buddy this time, and his has a folded in edge along the top of the spine. The two I received were in different packages. One has a buckled spine (you know, as though something heavy was on top of it and it creased in the middle). The other one has a mused in top corner. Three different packages, no good cases. For whatever reason, this is happening now but not in the past. My Dave picks one through 18 are fine. I guess in the grand scheme of things it's not a big deal, but I do have these on display in my family room, so of course I notice it. Anyone else have this?
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These lp's are the best sounding lp's ever made, period. I got into them back in the early 80's and have many of them. The process they use is unique and brings out the best sound available from the master tapes. I started with the Beatles lp's and just went wild with them, will never forget that time we got back from a concert and were quite out there, put on the White Album and listen to it in that state of mind, it was about the 4th time listening to that particular side of the lp and the sound was unbelievable. Found out later that it takes 3 or 4 plays before the needle gets into the groove at just the exactly perfect place and it is just pure joy. The song that still sticks in my mind is Revolution, the slow version, wow, you could hear them breath and you could hear their fingers on the strings sliding up and down, it was uncanny. There are still many available and they make new ones occasionally, if you still or are just getting into lp's, these will make you think you are right there, with the band sitting right in front of you. They did put out American Beauty on MFSL, Dark Side of the Moon, Clapton, The Band...all the heavies, unfortunately, they are limited so if you don't get them when they first come out, you might miss out of some exceptional sounding recordings. Mr. Pete, I agree with you, lp's are the way to go and I find myself going back to mine a lot more than cd's. (a lot of my friends got rid of their albums, I kept all of mine) glad I did. Most lp's sound better than cd's but there are a few exceptions, Blue Oyster Cults' first lp is way better sounding on lp that on cd, and these new cd's by the Dead sound real good too, but we don't have an lp to compare them with. Back in the day, you could get an lp for 4 bucks or so, where as the MFSL lp's were about 18.00, which was a lot back then, but well worth it. That Beatles collection was great, Sargent Peppers never sounded so good.
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I finished listening to DaP25 last night. My verdict - smokin' hot 1st set, really great energy and performance! 2nd set was meh IMHO (did like Wharf Rat and Truckin'). One of the rare times where the 1st set is better than the 2nd set.
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I have a few of these, they all sound amazing; best ones in my opinion were released in the 80s: The Band 1st LP, the Stones & Beatles box sets, American Beauty, Mars Hotel, Elvis in Memphis and the Sinatra box set. Highly recommended!
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This box is remarkable for its quality, certainly worth chasing for a great well-preserved copy. In 1982 a friend of mine recorded the set for me on his high end system, unfortunately to cassette but fortunately on a solid dual capstan deck (Yamaha, I think). Those cassettes, particularly Revolver, Sgt Pepper and the White Album, were among my most treasured belongings for many years. Analog sources wear out... if I had the set and the means I would make a few different reference copies, including on reel tape, for repeat enjoyment.
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Spun through this show a few times now; as others have noted it's a pretty high energy show and a very solid first set. Second set is good too; I probably enjoy the Fire on the Mountain and Wharf Rat the most; I did have one audio observation though (I think?) - does Jerry leave the stage or just stop playing immediately after the final line of Scarlet Begonias? He hits that one note, then he seems to disappear from the mix until about seven and a half minutes in; during that period the transition just sort of plods faintly along between Bobby and Keith mostly, until Jerry seems to reappear. I assume this happened from time to time, but was more curious if that is indeed what happened, or if I am just missing him in there in the mix. No mention of this in the liner notes, but perhaps someone has a recollection or other feedback in retort... Ahh, the mysteries of the listen. Sixtus
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Smokin first set, ok Dave, now we have the smokin first set release, how about a great second set release, unreleased Dark Star time? I usually steered clear of shows that had a sunrise in the set list, just seemed to me to bring down the entire vibe in the arena. Back in the day, Jerry was know to "disappear" from time to time, go back stage and ?. Who really knows what he was doing, except maybe the rest of the band and Parrish. I can see it now, Jerry sees an opportunity to take a quick break, and does, and the show just gets better after that, but this time, I think the "pink Peruvian" might have got the best of him.
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I catch him disappearing at approx. 5:13 into Scarlet and re-appearing almost exactly at 7:13, at a low volume. If you rewind a bit.. something is off during the first jam at about a minute into the song too, he's almost absent in the beginning of the first jam. Perhaps there was something he didn't like with the sound. I wonder if he mucked with the tuning or if the newly refurbished Wolf wasn't playing nice with some of the effects? My guess is he was getting his magic tricks and effects together and prepping for a transition into the land of the Mutron which he seems to have pretty dialed in by the time Fire On The Mountain starts. It doesn't seem like two minutes is enough time to completely disappear or go off the stage, and they were pretty fresh off the set break, so I doubt of he needed to spark up or anything. I doubt if we will ever know for sure. Then again, we could set the dials for 11/6/77...
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I like to think he found himself in the middle of Scarlet Fire not quite good and high enough, and decided to wander offstage for an attitude adjustment.
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Finished first set and it’s sounds great. Funny I got number around 17800 for my subscription and 8000 for one I ordered when individual show went on sale. Not really sure why I ordered an additional show. I did the same thing for 2015, ordered two subs. It’s hell to get old. 50 years ago saw first show at Thee Image in North Miami Beach. Looking forward to vol 26. Any year is fine with me.
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I'd put my money on it having something to do with drugs...I know there were instances around this time where Jerry would be "missing" from other Scarlet>Fire jams as well. Here is one example from 5/13/77 www.youtube.com/watch?v=voPrY55qiP0
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....he had to drop the Browns off at the Super Bowl. When you gotta poop, ya gotta poop...
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quick note - mobile labs 1/2 speed masters sounded great. I received a goodly chunk of stuff from someone here, was a lot of really nice stuff there. Most amazing though was a group called Everyone Orchestra. As my friend commented to me when I forwarded show to him, "where have these guys been hiding". You can check out their wiki page. But if I understand right. This guy who arranges these things must know a lot of people, but he assembles a group of top shelf musicians, they hook up for some "show" somewhere, without any rehearsals, with only meeting that day maybe, they create songs on the spot out of whole cloth, words and all apparently. The words are simple, but the jams can be GREAT. They are on the archive, but here is the link to the show sent to me,,, give a listen. https://archive.org/details/everyoneorchestra2017-03-11.matrix.flac24 Sorry for the interruption of DaP 25 talk,,,, and no mine hasn't gotten here yet, damn!
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That box is great, however the first 3 LPs have that hard stereo separation, with no middle: vocals left, instruments right. Still sounds great, but the mono versions of these are the best; I highly recommend the Beatles Mono box set that came out a few years ago, it's the best source.Same thing for the Stones, the mono versions of their LPs up to(and including Satanic Majesties Request) are superior to their stereo counterparts. While we're at it, the mono version of Moby Grape's first LP is also better than the stereo; same for the Dead's first LP, mono version is much punchier than the stereo(it's a shame that the 45 reissue series did not use a mono Golden Road 45...)
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First off, DP #25 is a good solid release. The first set is some of the best playing of 1977 for the boyz. It may well have the GOAT Miss 1/2 Step, and Jack Straw, Jed, and Dire Wolf are top notch.....but for this release to be considered so "legendary" like Cornell, 7/8/78, and/or all of May 1977 seems a bit of a stretch. I realize the GD has back the missing BBoards, and these releases were the obvious choices from the returned tapes....but 11/6/77 is good not great- Sorry!The Scarlet is half ass at best....one verse in, Jer realizes he is out of tune, and literally tunes mid song- I just don't care for that. His solo is good, then into Fire transition is ok...but mot May 1977. The show is somewhat typical of what setlist had become towards the end of 1977 especially in the 2nd set....again I like it, and the 1st set really smokes. Bottom line IMHO- I just think even as great a pedestal as 1977 is put on, it time to move on from the repetitive shows from: 1977, 1974, and 1972. Why not give the 1980s a chance at least for the next 6-8 releases...the myth that a lot of the soundboards from the 1980s (early 1980s in particular) don't sound good is just BS. I know this is not the consensus, and don't really care.....but haven't TPTB just about overdone it with 1970-1978...
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Read this while sipping coffee, and promptly snorted it out of my nose as I laughed.
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Another album that sounds much better in mono is "Piper At The Gates Of Dawn" by Pink Floyd-although I have always liked the channel switching at the end of "Interstellar Overdrive" on the stereo version. Both versions are essential-but the mono is the one I play most. I am hoping my copy of Daves will arrive next week some time. The response seems a bit muted, on the whole. Great first set, but nothing spectacular after that, seems to be the theme. We shall see.
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Hey, I want some of the shit that artist has been smoking.
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I agree with your post, RV3. More 80's would be welcomed here! Although I've really been into '74 shows lately. Especially after all the DP12 talk on here recently. Forgot how much fun that one was but I'd have fun with some early 80's stuff for sure.
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