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    "We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

    We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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  • wadeocu
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    We can talk about it Dennis
    so long as we speak in tongues!
  • Dennis
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    wadeocu - Really?
    Is that a real site? Wow! I could say a lot of things, but, maybe talking about religion here is like talking about politics here. So I'll just leave it at WOW!
  • Dennis
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    You owe me money Thin!!!!
    Curse you and all that come after you! I went to your link about Jimmie Rivers, damn you. Ended up on Amazon, bought the Jimmie River disc and a 4 cd set called "Wizards of Country Guitar: Selected Sides 1935-1955", all because you twisted my arm with your fancy words about this incredible album. So now I have another 40 bucks of cd purchases to hide from "she who must be obeyed". If she learns of this purchase you will be responsible for the medical cost I will incur at the emergency room. But really, once again a great heads-up on a wonderful album. There is nowhere else I go where I can catch snatches of different stuff to listen to. Deadheads may not be best of any group, but we sure listen to a wide range of music. So in that spirit I throw this one out I learned of yesterday - Papadosio - T.E.T.I.O.S. (you will find on youtube (song garden), getting ready to run this group down) Check-em out.
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    This just in:
    "Jerome John 'Jerry' Garcia was the founder and frontman of the legendary band, THE GRATEFUL DEAD (originally called, THE WARLOCKS back in 1965). Clearly, the original band's name reveals their allegiance to Satan, evidenced further by the notoriously strange and bizarre things that happened at Grateful Dead concerts. The band's diehard fans were known as 'deadheads.' Fans often spoke-in-tongues, claimed alien abductions and men dressed as women while dancing to Rock 'N' Roll music." https://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Rock-n-Roll/jerry_…
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    Speaking of Summer '76....
    I've been visiting with 6/28/76 over the past week or so; Jimbo your 6/29 reference reminded me of this excellent part of the tour that year.... There is some very good stuff going on here; notably the first set Scarlet, set ending Music Never Stopped, and then the very interesting second set with one of those long-winded Eyes to start off (where they jam BEFORE the first verse for like 6+ minutes as they had been doing all through June of this year), and then it trails off into a little Phil segment with drums before the first stand-alone attempt at Fire on the Mountain - but without vocals. It's dubbed 'Happiness is Drumming' and it's a pretty cool reveal. The rest of the show is pretty good too even with a fairly rare NFA encore. For those looking for a bit of under-the-radar-history from seventy-six, take a dive. This is a pretty good matrix recording: https://archive.org/details/gd1976-06-28.mtx.seamons.112676.flac16/gd76… Seventy-Sixtus
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    Meeeeliun dollars....
    Yeah supposedly the person who owned some of the tapes asked for a lot of dough at first. I'm glad thtey came to terms. The arrangement they came up with certainly yields much less than $1 mil to the owner near-term, but I'm sure they get a piece of any future streams from the same recordings.... cuz what if the whole Dead catalog or all the DP's get purchased by Amazon/Rhino 15 years from now for whatever reason for $20 million dollars? Why not? The Beatles catalog and the recordings increased exponentially over time... no the GD don't have that mass appeal, but values do go up and ya never know what happens in music distribution down the line. Over time I bet they eventually accumulate their $1 mil...
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    Yeah wissonoming!
    I've had this show on my phone for months, but never got to it. I have an orange SYF skull with Flyers logo as album cover art. Audio is excellent with some EQ tuning. I am melting to the Spanish Jam on full blast driving to work. Saw many bands at the old Spectrum, just 20 minutes from home. Great suggestion.
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    Thanks Unkle
    Great first hand account.. I enjoy insights into the shows and venues.. ..but who is this Gainesville fellow every keeps talking about and why to people keep dosing him?
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    We need more 1980 shows, was a great year for the band and there were some great shows played in that year, all year long, Spring, Summer Fall and Winter, but that Gainesville show was the best party that I was ever at for a Dead show. I'm almost positive the soundboard is not in the vault, therefore get the audience recording and be blown away. I have made mention of this show in the past and the party at the University is legendary and is still talked about to this day on the campus. It was homecoming and back in the day before drug tests, the Gators lost badly on that day, the Bulldogs whooped them with no mercy. Everyone was tripping and I think some of the key players on the team got dosed too. Bobby makes mention of it before Trucking, saying it couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of guys. If you listen to the first set, Jerry seems a bit off/out of tune?, then, all of a sudden, he wakes up, gets in tune, gets off and zoom off we go into the deep space that makes this band so special. They hit all the cylinders that night and went into overdrive more that once, it was quite a nite, and I did not get in, was too wasted outside in the lot, but you could still hear the show, it was awesome, one I will never forget and probably the only time I was too wasted not to go in, even tho I did not have a ticket, getting in without one in those days was a bit easier that it got to be later, especially if you knew a few frat boys who lined the entire event up. Homecoming, The Grateful Dead, Real good Blotter everywhere and everyone dosed equals a legendary show that should be released, even if it is only audience recording.
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    I have most of the Dicks Picks vinyl releases and anxiously waiting for DP8. I don't know if they sound "better" but I'm a vinyl junkie and to me, they sound different. If you like vinyl, it's worth it. You might try finding a cheap copy of DP2 since it was just one disc, then you can judge from that if it was worth it. And if you don't like it, it'd probably be easy to re-sell.
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"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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I'd read somewhere that Keith's being pressured to transition over to electric pianos/keyboards frustrated him creatively. Since he was fairly laid-back and non-confrontational, he did his best to go with the flow, but increasingly felt more and more stifled. That may explain why in certain shows from mid/late '78 he sounds like he's just banging out chords. Might be true, might not. It all rolls into one after awhile. Regardless, the keyboard reigned king throughout the 80s. The Dead, like many 60s and 70s bands, had to adapt to survive. Brent was key (pun intended) to that survival, and definitely ushered in the new sound Jerry and the boys were looking for. But I agree -- that 11/6/77 "Truckin'" is an absolute monster.
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Ok, now I get it. Thanks Wilfred. Indeed, Shakedown & Franklin's is sick. Must check out.. So, WHAT ABOUT GAINSVILLE??? Sixtus edit: So, about Gainsville.... had to start with the second set opener...holy shit...THAT TRANSITION into FRANKLIN's TOWER!!! This is what it's all about folks. It's a really good audience recording as well...most excellent. Consider me schooled. https://archive.org/details/gd80-11-29.wise.sacks.2409.sbeok.shnf/gd80-…
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I believe the grand was still in use for the magnificent May 77 tour and into June. I think it is just this late 77 and the 78 tours that involved the heavy handed electric piano sound. Honestly I always thought the crew was behind that move because they didnt want to move the heavy piano around. Pure conjecture on my part, but it is well documented that the crew had clout within the organization and perhaps too much.
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11/29/80 is Gainsville. The shows on either side have been released, but Gainesville hasn't. Why? Because the copy in circulation is the best AUD you'll ever hear (along with 8/6/71). I can't imagine the SBD sounds better than the AUD - it's that good, and makes you feel like you're right there, 20th row center. And the show is a glorious rip-roaring romp. Thanks for posting Mustin - surprisingly long list of released 80's shows. Who knew?! Suprising how few '91 shows have been released. At the time I thought they sounded amazing and scooped up all the '91 recordings I could find. Though not as strong and consistent as '90, there are a lot of good, releasable shows.
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Well then, making a AAA+ Matrix shouldn't be too much of a problem.. Did somebody mention Gainesville?
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lol... Fuck it, or what about it, it would be a great release. Pardon the derp, but when was 11/28/80 released? I have 11/30/80 official, and a copy of Gainesville set 2, but don't recall 11/28/80 mumble mumble...
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Matrix recording of 11/29/80 would NOT suck. Hmmmm... Gainesville... Wait - Did someone say Gainesville?
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Pretty rockin' good show. Opens with a nice 1/2 Step too... DaP25 is a pretty average release IMO... I prefer Colgate and Rochester, but I agree that the 1/2 Step, Dupree's, Jack Straw, and Tenn Jed are all standouts in the first set, (I like the FOTD too, though I am not a huge fan of the slower versions,) and that the Truckin' is HOT! Oh, what about Gainesville, indeed! RIP Tom Petty Peace
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I didn't get the email about TTATS, so I missed out. jk. I couldn't swing the $$$ for TTATS. Gainesville sounds really nice on the archive right now. never heard the 1st set before. what a great band.
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I have a close show to the one you reefered to (yes, reefered). 1/30/78, also from the Uptown Theatre in Chicago. It has one of those awesome awesome 1978 Stellas, and then a Franklin's Tower, which....ok, Franklin's standalone really rocked out on the Wolf in 1978. I'll have to check out your 1/31 recommend...reeferal. Glad you caught up to the Tom Petty news :D Good info on Keith's piano DarkStar. I love his sound on DP 18, Estimated Prophet. Sounds electric, but definitely with some effect on it (kind of harpsichord-like). I would love to hear from someone with real personal knowledge, or at least someone who could identify exactly what he used on some of these releases. There are some references on Wiki, but it's very vague and does not cover the wide range of sounds I've heard him use. Maybe I'll see if Donna will let me write her Biography. She would know.
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pet peeve as a teacher: you hand out new pencils with erasers. within two days some yahoo has broken off _all the erasers_. and the kids always say, "I need an eraser!" the things we put up with in life. eraser vandalism, bearded skeletons, etc.
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Found a few extra erasers on this end. You know, if anyone needs one. Or two. I'm the bearded skeleton at the small desk by the door...
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isn't a bearded skeleton, but he can get on my nerves sometimes. kind of like the bearded skeletons get on some posters' nerves. "I don't WANT to do math! Math is stupid!" grr...
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Sure. Go ahead and start a petition. Get all the signatures you can find. I'll be the first to sign. Then send it to Dave and the boys in a nice big envelope decorated with fancy artwork. Just like back in the days when mail ordering for tickets. Be sure not to include any bearded skeletons in the design (because evidently those suck too) so that Dave knows just how serious you are about the lack of representation of your prized era. Then wait. Then wait some more. Then, when nothing changes, badger him with emails, maybe another letter, and be sure to complain on this site a lot. A real lot. You want to know why nothing will change? Dave already has your money. You keep subscribing. He keeps raising the production each year to match demand and each release continues to sell out. You keep handing over money and then complain. You really want things to change? Stop subscribing. Simple as that. Stop buying the product. Nothng will grab Dave's attention more than a sharp decline in sales. Not that the dozen or so of you malcontents will make much difference, but at least it's a start. But, also know this. Dave surely understands that if he starts pumping out 80s shows in this series, he runs the risk of the rest of us leaving.
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Just got my first buy from Grateful Dead real gone music. Road trips vol 4 # 3 Denver 1973. I paid 44 bucks. Just got my Dave’s 25 and jammed it on my newly re built pioneer CS-99a’s from the 1970’s sounded great. Once I Play the real gone road trips I will let everyone know what I think. I like the packaging. Old school plastic triple cd like the old days.
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I personally don't care, but some people did complain. in the immortal words of Squidward: "whaaaatever." in the "What about" department: what about bearded clams? Warty venus with a goatee, anyone? I am 54, going on 12...
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And what does a ticketless bearded skeleton have to do with the "Wall of Keys" gig? A missed opportunity to be at least a bit topical ala 23 cover art? Could be. But then again.....whatever.
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And what does a ticketless bearded skeleton have to do with the "Wall of Keys" gig? A missed opportunity to be at least a bit topical ala 23 cover art? Could be. But then again.....whatever.
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Never had it on cassette.Never heard it. You say it’s good? Generally don’t listen to AUD but if there’s a good recording I’ll check it out. Keith’s pianner, I really dig it on the GD Movie. Vguy, I thought you liked the Flames? Man you switched allegiances fast.
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give it a listen.
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Said it better than I could, and without being a bit facetious (my usual default mode). My straw hat off to you...
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Thanks. But, I still like your post a lot more.
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Another great release, of a pretty rocking show, in a city close to my heart. This one is getting repeat play here on the Wharf. 2/26/77? Yes, please. I love a good AUD recording. My most recent cosmic pull back to the GOGD was facilitated by stumbling across the Listening Guide. http://www.deadlistening.com/2009/02/listening-trail-best-auds-ever.html But What About Gainesville?
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This thread has become quite comical. I have a box of erasers I would like to donate. Does anyone have a copy of the new Gainesville Matrix?
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....Gainesville doesn't hold a candle to Santa Fe. Pick any of the three shows. Go on. Pick one! Do you hear me?As far as Calgary goes, I was just rooting for a good game, and the last two minutes had it in spades. Vegas "erased" that lead quicklike. Love the Flames. Love the Knights more. It's like comparing 1977 to 1972. Fine lines....#vegasborn
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It was just pointed out that the link I posted a few days ago somehow got corrupted. Here's a new one:https://www.dropbox.com/s/vq0acpf9yzakexr/Dave%27s%2025%20SQUARE%20%2AF… I made scans of both CD and Booklet covers (each is cropped slightly differently) and combined the two so that none of the artwork is lost. I then extended the top and bottom to “square” the image (some like square format for itunes, phones, etc.) Color-matching on this one was nutty thanks to Tim McDonagh’s sizzling, but analogous color palette. Enjoy & pass around as needed,
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go to your CD collection, reach your hand out in an intuitive, instinctive, yet un-expectant, "random" manner. The first CD your hand actually touches is the one you put on, and listen to. It's what the universe wants you to hear, right now ;)
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after I post one or two times. So if I miss some PMs, I am very sorry. I know there are a few (very few, lol) people who send me PMs anymore. But let me just say that I appreciate your well wishes, even if I never read the replies, or responded to them. You know who you are. Thank you.
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If you own any/all early Dave's Picks. Amirite or wot?!? Not a Bit-Coin millionaire, but Dave did it for me. Lols. Thats Gainesville '80 show would make for a very nice official release 3 day run of shows.
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I hear ya. but I do believe Neal Cassady would know better what I'm talking about. Funny thing though, I was more familiar with the I Ching before I was turned onto the Dead, even at an early age. The fact that the two intersected at some point, was a complete surprise to me ;) Never mind though. Back to your regularly scheduled programming...
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Damn. The potato's back in my hands. Well, at least it feels a little cooler after its trip around the board.
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....load me a bowl.
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Nice analysis of how and why the bands sound changed after 1974. I have never read of a reason why Weir changed from a Gibson hollow body to and Ibanez-but what you say makes sense. Having said that, the Dead cd I was listening to this morning was Dicks Picks 28, which features highlights from 26th and 28th February 1973. The photographs inside show Weir playing a Gibson SG, which has been used by some very loud guitarists-Angus Young, Tony Iommi and Pete Townsend come to mind. Maybe there was another reason why he retired that one. Maybe he liked the thin sound of the Ibanez! I haven't received the new Daves Picks yet. The 1973 shows quoted above are excellent-very much featuring the earlier non bombastic Dead. There is so much clarity in the sound, with no distortion or use of volume for dramatic effect. Very untypical for a rock band from 1973. I do like the heavier handed approach of 1977-1978, and am looking forward to hearing the new release-but the playing in 1973 (and 1972 and 1974) was of a different order entirely.
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Thanks for the feedback regarding HDCD players. It looks like it's going to be difficult finding a player that decodes HDCD. Microsoft owns the rights to the technology, and it didn't become a mainstream digital source. Either way, we're lucky to have high quality GD.
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Thanks MidwayKid for this reminder about the reissue - / Real Gone series. I had missed out on the Denver '73 Road Trips back in the day for whatever reason and indeed found it there. Gotta round it out I say. As for Gainesville, that one picked up some serious steam on this thread and I've been spending ample time with this very fine audience recording over the past 18 hours or so. Not being all too familiar with the explicit year of 1980, aside from the scant officially released shows / compilations, I definitely find this show packed full of energy. I think in the past I sort of subconsciously avoided this year, and early 80s in particular due to the fact that inherently, the songs were shorter and thus I assumed less jammy or intense or whatever. What I have learned, however, as my ears and attitude got adjusted to the different style & take on how they played (aka...fast/faster), I've learned they are very good at "getting to the point" in the jams, hence things moving along a little more quickly than if they took their sweet ass time. I am happy with myself that I've sort of stuck with it in that sense, and allowed my ears/mind/expectations to fall in-line with the reality of their playing during this period. I'll also say that 30 Trips helped to break down this barrier for me as well, even if the sound quality on a few of those are a bit questionable. Nonetheless, I'd never have been exposed to this Gainesville phenomenon as well as a lot of other gems without the input from Yous All - Appreciation Factor = Level 69 Sixtus
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Uncle John's Band Playin' in the Band Uncle John's Band Me and My Uncle Mexicali Blues Tennessee Jed Samson and Delilah Easy to Love You Althea Looks Like Rain Deal Feel Like a Stranger Ship of Fools Estimated Prophet Eyes of the World drums Saint of Circumstance Black Peter Sugar Magnolia Alabama Getaway Brokedown Palace https://archive.org/details/gd80-06-08.eaton.tome.7193.sbefail.shnf
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The following list was shamelessly lifted from Steve Hoffman Music Forums: Advance Acoustic MCD 204 (CD Player) Arcam Diva DV 79 (DVD Player) Arcam Diva DV 135 (DVD Player) Arcam Diva DV 137 (DVD Player) Arcam FMJ DV 139 (DVD Player) Berkeley Audio Design Alpha DAC (DAC) Cambridge Audio Azur 650 BD (Blu-ray Player) Cayin CDT-15A (CD Player) CyberHome CH-DVD 635 (DVD-Player) Denon DBP-A100 (Blu-ray Player) Denon DBP-4010UD (Blu-ray Player) Denon DVD-A1UD (Blu-ray Player) Denon DVD-A11 (DVD/SACD Player) Denon DVD-A1XV (DVD/SACD Player) Denon DVD-A1XVA (DVD/SACD Player) Denon DVD 2800 mk2 (DVD/SACD Player) Denon DVD-2910 (DVD/SACD Player) Denon DVD-2930 (DVD/SACD Player) Denon DVD-3800 (DVD/SACD Player) Denon DVD-3910 (DVD/SACD Player) Denon DVD-3930 (DVD/SACD Player) Harman/Kardon FL-8370 (CD Multi Disc Player) Harman/Kardon HD-750 (CD Player) Linn Majik CD (CD Player) Mark Levinson ML 37 (CD Player) Mark Levinson ML 39 (CD Player) Mark Levinson ML 390S (CD Player) Mark Levinson No. 36 (DAC) Mark Levinson ML 360 (DAC) Mark Levinson ML 360S (DAC) Music Hall CD 25 (CD Player) NAD C 542 (CD Player) NAD M5 (SACD/CD Player) NAD M55 (SACD/DVD Player) NAD T 585 (SACD/DVD Player) Naim CDX2 (CD Player) Naim CD5x (CD Player) Naim CDS3 (CD Player) Naim CD555 (CD Player) OPPO BDP-80 (Blu-ray Player) OPPO BDP-83 (Blu-ray Player) OPPO BDP 93 (Blu-ray Player) OPPO BDP 95 (Blu-ray Player) OPPO DV-980H (DVD Player) OPPO DV-981HD (DVD Player) OPPO DV-983H (DVD Player) Original CD-A8T (CD Player) Panasonic DVD-S52 (DVD Player) Pioneer DVR-550H-S (DVD Player) Restek EPOS (CD Player) Rotel RCD-02 (CD Player) Rotel RCD-1072 (CD Player) Rotel RCD-991 AE (CD Player) T+A CD3000R (CD Player) Toshiba SD 500E (DVD Player) Vincent S1.1 (CD Player) Vincent S3 (CD Player) Vincent S5 (CD Player) Vincent S6 (CD Player) Personally I have a Naim CDX2 and I can highly recommend it.
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Easily the best AUD I've ever heard. This show is top notch. I see what all the hype is about.
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Nothing brings me out of Lurkerville like a reference to the #1 item on my Grateful Wishlist - Alaska 1980. For years I've begged for a "Grateful Dead in the Land of the Midnight Sun" box - all kinds of art possibilities. But I must say, "Basked Alaska" is a fine title too. Also, I saw there was some discussion of Keith's piano in the Fall '77 shows. According to Blair Jackson in "Dead Gear" Keith didn't switch from the grand piano to the Yamaha electric grand until "summer 1978." He indicates that Keith changed to the electric grand piano because it was easier to transport (important for going to Egypt, for example). Ironically the damn things still needed to be tuned, and the piano tuner didn't show up in Egypt. That is so Grateful Dead. Anyhoo ... if you look at this video of 12/30/77 you can see that he's still playing the traditional grand piano. Good shot of it just before the 32:00 mark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqZP8ihyfs8&list=RDyqZP8ihyfs8&t=1916 So I think the sound of his piano in the fall shows really is due to him pounding away on the chords, and keeping his foot firmly on the echo pedal.
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