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    "We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

    We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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  • JimInMD
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    Agree on more mini boxes and less monster boxes. I can only assume Boxzilla was a vast and hugely successful conspiracy orchestrated by a divorce attorney think tank and lobbying group in DC.
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    I myself would prefer one box set a year. because we all pretty much spent roughly 300 dollars in one year for a dave's picks sub, get shown the light and RFK. honestly I would prefer more mini box sets like RFK. the bigger they are the less likely I can get one and then i'm at the mercy of someone sending me digital an ALAC copy like with 30 Trips and Europe '72. and its not like I'm sitting around mooching off people I have bought every box set barring winterland '77 and and subscribed to to Dave's Picks since Dave's 13. but you know I cant buy them all. I don't know if I can get the one this year or not cuz if it costs more than the $160 bucks I have saved from holiday gift money I'm flat out fucked. I keep my box sets in the original mail box they come in even if they are gathering dust because computers can crash and external hard drives can get wiped out. which I would be crestfallen cuz my 30 Trips is all digital and it took me a whole summer and fall to get those.
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    I buy these releases for the skeletons with beards. This thread seems to be suffering from a multi-personality disorder at the moment, which is fine. I am drawn to the anniversary hype and what these shows do to the ears and minds of the beholders. I am mildly amused by some of the rest. I'm half tempted to steer the conversation to something less controversial like religious cults and why you should join one now, family planning techniques or Hitler, the worlds greatest philanthropist. Softer topics that warm the heart. Good stuff mostly.. it is all about the music and I guess the culture fun and prankish comradery. What a great month for GD History. Edit: Oh, love Dicks Picks 28.. it's another great twofer. I wonder if I will still be alive when this comes out on vinyl?
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    I agree people like us will continue to get our Dave's Picks subscriptions and new box sets whether they re-release the old stuff or not. But the resellers would stop buying in bulk quantity if all of the releases are just going to be re-issued in a few years. That's why Dick's Picks are not nearly as expensive on ebay. And re-issues do hurt resellers. Just look at how much the original Road Trips came down in price on ebay, after Real Gone started selling the re-issues. So for example if Dave's Picks started being re-issued by Real Gone, the 18,000 Dave's Picks manufactured is not going to maintain those quick sellouts, or continue to grow (I think somebody said 33% since 2012). Resellers probably account for at least 25% of the overall Dave's Picks sales. Rhino isn't going to rock that boat for 10K in old Fillmore West sets. Get shown the light - that's the instance where they basically screwed the resellers on the "limited edition" sales pitch, by releasing the exact same set a week later, but with no book. They do that enough times, the resellers will wise up, and then maybe it's only one box set a year. Yikes. So I'm fine with resellers. It stokes overall sales and keeps my new Dead tunes coming El rapido.
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    Totally agree Dave. The end of this show sets it on fire. This Dew has always hit me. Jer takes it to the next level. Love the way the guitar sets the mood at the end. Jerry’s guitar had wings and this one takes off. It continues into the sugar mag and he’s totally into the bid you goodnight so is Phil. Just a cool show. 45 years ago tonight.
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    In defense of the Jefferson Airplane, I'd say that they actually did plenty of jamming in comparison to most of the other bands from around that time and place, with some songs that almost always went over 10-12 min, and several other examples of even longer improv jams etc. The Airplane also changed up their setlists, adding new songs and covers more often than alot of other groups. The airplane also had songs (Dresses too short, Bear Melt, Mau Mau etc) that they would often stretch out in a rave up style similar to Turn on Your Lovelight. They for sure weren't the Dead, but most those bands like Country Joe, Quicksilver, the Blues Project, It's a Beautiful Day etc did some occasional extended jams. Unfortunately one often has to seek out, obtain and be willing to listen to actual bootlegs/audience recordings of full shows to hear alot of these unique jams and extended versions, because there aren't alot of specific examples of them on youtube (you can find some full shows) or through official releases(there's not alot available). Songs I'd recommend for longer airplane jams would be 'Other side of this life', 'Ballad of Pooneil', 'Thing', 'Fat Angel', 'Wooden Ships', and you can also find some good ones that are just entitled "jam". Here's a example of the Airplane jamming a song live in 1968, which is my favorite year for them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmS0KD2QwKc And here is a great jam with Jerry and the Airplane and some members from Santana's percussion line, possibly Mickey as well. Jerry really taps into that 69 Dark Star sound at various points which sounds unique in this context, with Jorma really propeling the jam and taking some great lead spots. There are distinct sections and its all improvised. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9xcGJrf-Q8
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    February 28, 1973http://gratefuldeadoftheday.com/02-28-1973 Salt Palace Salt Lake City, Utah While there is much that is very good in here, including a wonderful TLEO and He's Gone in the first set, other parts do not quite seem to reach the outer limits that we know the band is capable of. For instance, the Sugaree is good but not earth-shattering. And, the China> Rider, despite a funky little jam before the transition, does not plumb the full depths of those two tunes. The second set of this show ends with Promised Land, Truckin'> Other One> Eyes> Morning Dew, Sugar Magnolia and then a We Bid You Goodnight encore. Sadly, none of the recordings that are out there seem to capture the entirety of it with the exception, of course, of Dick's Picks Volume 28. Even with the Dick's Picks, you still need to lay your hands on the album because those missing tunes are "album only" on the MP3 download off Amazon. The Dick's Picks is definitely worth hunting down as it is those last few tunes that turn this into something truly special that, I imagine, made Dick Latvala want to send it out into the world from the Vault.
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    2/28/73 morning dew. Get some. Still one of my favorites
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    yeah icecream I buy mine
    yeah icecream I buy mine because I want the music as well. i'm totally fine with reissuing stuff so it can get back out there. if that means re sellers cant sell it for a jacked up price *shrugs*. I mean people trade out and make copies of out of print stuff all the time so good luck unloading a box set for thousands of dollars only cuz it has backstage pass reprints..that are stickers..or a pin. reprinting limited things wont stop sales for dave's picks or box sets. cuz deadheads out there will buy any thing that's associated with the band, case in point Merl Saunders & and Jerry Garcia Band at the Vogue in Indianapolis...and people are going to that lmao. I didn't care that get shown the light had a music only version after the limited edition sold out. because holy shit the big four was out. and the only thing that makes it a "collectors item" was a book...that you can buy individually at amazon. and there are copies of the limited get shown the light sold for high prices. when you can just go purchase the music only version and then go to amazon and buy the book. it's called Cornell '77: The Music, The Myth, and the Magnificence of Grateful Dead's Concert at Barton Hall right now for 17 bucks.
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    I buy these releases for the music, which sounds better than the torrent copies if available, and to have it pressed on a thin film of metal.Future value never factors into the purchasing decision. I want the music. Resellers, scalpers, speculators will be pissed off if a ‘Limited Editon’ is re-released. Fans of the music will rejoice. How many people here would not subscribe to Dave’s Picks 2019 or 2020 if FW69 was remastered and released? Probably a few resellers, but not all of them. As long as I can afford it, I will keep buying these releases, Limited or unlimited.
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"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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Dennis Edwards, a former lead singer of Motown pioneers the Temptations, sang on a string of the group's hits including "I Can't Get Next to You," "Ball of Confusion" and "Papa Was a Rollin' Stone." He joined in an initial tenure that stretched to 1977, has died. His family confirmed the news to CBS News. He was 74. https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/temptations-lead-singer-dennis-…
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And now for a change of pace. They just released a 7 cd box set of all of the music FZ played at the Roxy in '73. Very nice
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8/31/78 had it for years. one my first tapes. 6 song first set (???), with classic versions of each. looooong second set chock full o' goodies. audience, with lots of "audience" in the first set. whichever way your pleasure tends, this is worth hearing.
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I love 1973 and find it bizarre that theres a 6 month swath of 1973 in the vault that is completely untouched. BUT if the HIGHLY-lauded and mythical Red Rocks box is now almost 2 years old and not sold out, I find it hard to believe this would be an immediate sellout (at the standard 15k units.) Though it would certainly sell better than the 1989 RFK box (ONLY 5,000 left! Hurry! - LOL) Agree the 6/10/73 Dead show is fantastic and would like to see it released, but my recollection of the ABB stage-sharing 3rd set is typical of most guest appearances - one imagines a fantasy pairing where giants stand on each others shoulders for previously unimaginable heights. 1+1 =3!!! But instead its executed with all the grace of a 3-legged race. Everyone's a little tentative trying to figure out whose solo it is, and not step on toes... Sure they execute the songs competently and its interesting to figure out who's playing what, but the musical product has no magical moments that pull me back. It's more curiosity than virtuosity... 1+1=0.8, musically. If I'm missing any TRULY golden moments from this set, please enlighten me. I also have trouble imagining the Allmans would allow an entire disc of Allmans/Dead to be released under the Dead label considering the bad blood that existed between the bands in later years (after Gregg's manager went to jail due to Gregg testifying against him in order to get immunity in a drug case where the manager was holding/sourcing HIS stash, and Jerry PUBLICLY shamed him for it in an interview.) But Dave & Co. found a compromise for the complicated returned Betty's situation, so maybe there's hope here too.
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RFK would likely sell more then Red Rocks 78.. but I cannot explain why Red Rocks has not sold out. It's a great box.. I would like to think they screwed the pooch marketing that one. They never tried for a second rush and took it off line for a couple months shortly after it went on sale due to the Music Today fiasco. Hype at dead.net for this box is almost non-existent now and in my opinion it isn't displayed prominently on the website. I still think it's a great box and I don't think Arrowhead circulates that freely (but I could be wrong on this point). RFK is another beast entirely though.. it's one of the classic pre-hiatus unreleased shows. I doubt of they release it at numbers under 18k. It's an interesting subject though.. I don't think it's a question of if it will get released, more a question of when. One day they will put their heads together and reach an agreement and get it out. ..and I think it will attract enough of the Allman Bros fan base that aren't rabid deadheads to make the numbers jump a little too. Here's to the day we get that announcement..
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6/9/73 and 6/10/73 would be a smart release. ABB gets some cash, not just the GD. I don't know what it's like to wrangle the sums of money tenured bands deal with, but if I had a chance to get a seven-figure sum, I would freakin' do it. best of all, us crazies get some more classic, classic, classic music to listen to and enjoy for eternity.
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1621 remaining, according to David D. It didn’t go on sale in December, probably too soon to cut the price and piss off the rest of us. What did go on sale in December was the 8-27-72 CD/BluRay for $14 less than I paid 3-4 weeks earlier. That was annoying. I had the DVD but decided to buy the BluRay to see if it had a better picture. Nope, how could you improve grainy 1972 film. But it does have 24/192 audio. 78 Box is awesome, especially the non-Red Rocks shows that didn’t previously circulate. It’s not prominently displayed on the main page, but May 77 AME is. Jim has a good point about it disappearing for a few months, then reappearing, but was probably sidelined due to the May 77 hoopla. RFK 73 will sell out 20,000 units quickly. It’s hot, hot, hot. It’s pre-hiatus, which a lot of people want.
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Some good points made. I think a lot of factors are involved. I think 1978 is not as lauded a year in Dead legend as say, 1977. I think if it had only been a two-show set with the Red Rocks nights, it would have sold out 15K pretty quickly. But for $129 and 5 shows from a year that's often regarded as "shakey" in terms of performance, I believe some folks either opted out, or bought 7/8 only. That is my second thought - the fact that 7/8 was the big cornerstone show of the box, and that it is available individually, must have hurt the box set sales (it's not like the Cornell box set, where there were several extremely popular shows included). Some folks are just nor "completists", and can sleep at night knowing there are available shows on the store shelf. I don't happen to be one of them - I broke out in a cold sweat when I got the news of the box set and didn't have my wallet nearby. Like Jim pointed out, it was available for download for a while. Who knows how many were sold. There are certainly a good deal of regular posters here who indicate they prefer downloads over physical product. Surely they represent a larger number of people who do not post regularly. There was also a lot of discussion when it was announced, that the set lists were not that much different from a good number of other releases, such as May and June 1977. The non-completists who may have considered a 1978 box may have decided against it because of this. This one may be a bigger factor than we think. Imagine if it had been Fall '78, and we had songs like Stagger Lee, Shakedown Street, I Need a Miracle, etc. That would be something new-ish and unique, something marketable. So for my part, (aside from being a completist), there was enough nuance between '77 and '78 to warrant buying July 1978 Complete Recordings; but for some I think, $129 for essentially the same batch of songs as May and June 1977 (as well as a dozen single show releases from Dick's Picks, Dave's Picks, Road Trips, 30 Trips, DL Series), it just wasn't a priority, particularly when Red Rocks 7/8 was available a la carte. Anyway, it will sell out soon enough, I think there are only like 1500 left. Still a winner for Rhino, as I'm sure they sold enough to make money. The rest is trickle-in gravy. And a winner for Rhino is a winner for us :D Have a great weekend everybody. Jellyroll will drive you stone mad.
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20k units when the 15k unit Red Rocks box is still FAR from sold out??? To quote Austin Powers "I used to think you were crazy, but now I can see your nuts." I recall some overzealous '80s enthusiasts saying the same about the 89 RFK box: "It'll sell out instantly [because I'm so excited about it!]". And now Rhino has FIVE THOUSAND (!!!) unsold boxes, just taking up valuable space. That's $300,000 of capital tied up in inventory that they'll be sitting on for a very, very long time. If that fact gets brought up in a Dead/Rhino meeting and then someone pipes up and suggests 20k units on the next box, I think they'd be thrown out of the room. But I could be wrong. Granted Cornell box sold out fast, but that's freakin' Cornell. The Red Rocks box had much more mystique and mind-share than does 6/10/73, imo. I get your enthusiasm for 6/10/73, but just ask the Rhino stockroom manager who can't even see the Farrah Fawcett poster on his office wall anymore for all the cardboard boxes stacked floor-to-ceiling around him.
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Good point Jeff.. Surely that had an impact on the non-completest among us. It is the cornerstone show, and arguably the best in the box (though currently not my go to show from this set).
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I don't think 7/1 circulated (not sure about 7/3). 7/5 circulated as a wonderful sounding AUD (speaking of great AUDs) by one of our own posters (who also has an amazing story from attending some of the shows). My (probably over simplified) theory on why it hasn't sold out is that no post hiatus year (aside from 1977) has enough mainstream hype around it to sell out quickly. Even the late era years we all consider to be very strong. Spring 90 TOO which is as great a box as they ever put out only sold out just over a year ago I think. And as previously mentioned, a 2-show affordable mini box from 89 is still available. Anything pre-hiatus will sell out very quickly. Put a summer or fall 73 box out and it will be gone in 24 hours. Put a box out from fall 79 and watch it sit for a while. Doesn't bother me personally since I will buy it the day it's posted, but I do hope that it doesn't deter Rhino from agreeing to box sets from less "famous" years/runs.
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For RFK 6/10/73, I believe it would sell 15K in one weekend, either individually or paired with the RFK show from the night before. In this situation there is a hugely popular show from a hugely popular year. If I were Rhino, I would do the pair. I would limit it to 15K and include a small book (like FW 1969), but I would press 20K and immediately put the extra 5K on sale after the initial sellout, but exclude the book and call it the music only edition. That way the urgency is created for the initial 15K, and it goes fast. Then when everyone is peeved they didn't get one, you announce the music only copies that are available. No, that's dishonest, I wouldn't do that.
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Mind Left Body, this one's for your efforts. I saw someone post this a little while back, and I've shamelessly recycled it. So regarding your post: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8X_Ot0k4XJc 80sFan - you said in a couple of sentences what took me way too long to articulate. Prehiatus + 1977 = insta-sell. Posthiatus = you better think about your marketing plan carefully, lest you "lose sight" of what truly matters.
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I’m banking on the ‘pre-hiatus only’ folks to make the sales volume larger. They wouldn’t have bought the 78 Box. The RFK 89 Box ‘less than 5000 left’ banner went up before the box started shipping, or around shipping time. The banner will stay until sell out. Of course, the ‘no Brent’ crowd isn’t going to buy that box.
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it should be fewer than 5000, no less than. the selling of the 5000? Jerryroll will drive you stone mad. as will jellyroll.
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The July '78 Box is one of the best things they've released, from the artwork and packaging (bookshelf size, thank you) to the performances and the sound quality. Jim, you mentioned that 7/8/78 might be the best, but is not your go-to. Not sure if you mean Arrowhead, but that is by far the one I go-to most in this stellar box. It circulated only as an AUD before (a really fun Bob Wagner tape I think). I think if it had been available in Betty Board glory it would be as famous as 7/8. But, this could also be my predilection for "weird shows with truncated sets at festivals." (It's a specialized genre). One of my favorite shows of the '80s is 9/5/82 from the US Festival. Talk about a weird show, opening with Playin' > Shakedown > Minglewood. What-the-wha? And at 9:30 in the morning too. The Dead playing to a crowd of mostly non-Deadheads, at 9:30 in the morning, what could go wrong? https://archive.org/details/gd1982-09-05.sbd.miller.113746.flac16/gd82-… Set 1 Playin' In The Band-> Shakedown Street-> Minglewood Blues, Samson & Delilah, China Cat Sunflower-> I Know You Rider Set 2 Sugaree-> Women Are Smarter, Truckin'-> Drums-> Not Fade Away-> Black Peter-> Sugar Magnolia, E: U.S. Blues, E: Satisfaction*
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RFK June '73 remains a great experience 45 years later, BUT I only caught the first day. The second day was a Sunday and I had to hitch back home to go to school Monday. Worst decision of my life, outside of not buying FW'69 when it came out... oh, and getting married. The GD played the afternoon show, a seriously hot day, with temps reaching 100, at least. I was 15 and we were taking four-way blotter, which partly explains who I am today. (No digressions here, pleeez.) I've got a few stories, which I think I've shared before. There was a long break, then the sun eased up on us and we retired from the field to the seats for the ABB's closing set and man, probably the best ABB set of that year, of which I caught four. Just plain powerful. Oh, yes, we did re-up on the blotter for the ABB. That re-upping on the same day is a young man's sport, to be sure. (Maybe it was the second piece of that four-way paper that made me who I am today? Ooops a digression.) I can say, having heard the Watkins Glen jam as we eased out of that crowd 6-7 weeks later, we do not need the post-show jams. Those guys were hoovering massive amounts of blow and drinking heavily, according to my ears(!). Instead, I'm sure that, as with the ABB's Feb '70 FE release, the GD have probably given the ABB the tapes of 6-9-73 and 6-10-73, if anyone ran tape on the "other" band. So the ABB would be in a position to release something. And I'm sure that someone is looking at an archival ABB release schedule, now that Gregg has departed. At least, I fervently hope so. There are two sets from '71 FW scheduled. And the '73 ABB was the best of the post-Duane IMHO. A standalone 6-10-73 across four discs could make a killer lure as the 2019 DaP 30 w/bonus disc; the full 6-10 with 6-9 filler. (Hate filler unless I was at the show, but I digress... aarrgghhh!) Then this spring's box could provide other, 3-disc summer '73 shows. Yep, I'm still gunning for a March-April announcement for a '73 box to be released in May, timed to the 45th of that fateful summer and its fresh Alice D. Those '73 shows tended to be long with 2-3 song encores, so maybe it's just (3) shows, (9) discs, to keep price within reach. (An even $99.99?) On the 8-31-78 Red Rocks show, the 6-song first set seemed disastrous at the time; they cut it short and huddled (got ripped) before coming out to jam the second set to the max. They had recorded an LP and not been performing for a month or so and those two shows, 8-30 and 8-31, we considered quite weak after the 7-7 and 7-8 Purple Dragon-driven sets earlier that summer. Jeeez, 40 years since Red Rocks '78 and 45 since summer '73. One step closer to the coolin' board. Coffee good today...
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I have been wondering about the next box set myself, thinking there might be an announcement soon. A larger '70s box in the spring, and a smaller '80s-'90 box in the fall would be about perfect, like they did last year with the Cornell box and the RFK box. The July '78 box rocks. I have returned to that box on a number of occasions, probably returning to the Arrowhead and the Omaha shows most frequently, but they were all good. That Arrowhead show is fantastic, a nice tight, short show, and always fun to imagine the crowd at Willie Nelson's summer picnic grooving to the Dead as things got weird later in the show. The artwork on that box is also probably my favorite out of all the box sets.
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>>>>> I don't know what it's like to wrangle the sums of money tenured bands deal with, but if I had a chance to get a seven-figure sum, I would freakin' do it. Agreed because I know shit about Large Green and Band Egos, BUT, I would think release it, cost you nothing, you will make some amount of money, but to me, more importantly, you're leaving some of your art for all time. I wish I could create something, anything that can stand the test of time after I'm gone. But what do most of us leave, at best kids, nothing so great there. (they are mass produced by unskilled labor) I doubt ANY of the faucets I've installed will be around in 10 years. Maybe the classic 66 corvette I've worked on will have my handy work untouched for years.
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Maybe the shot of tequila I dropped in... but I digress... Never realized the limited choices, though staggering, for a summer '73 box. All told, June-August, 'only' 12 shows. So Dave has to figure out if a small box works, yet leaves enough shows for the future. I've heard the call for PNE 6-22-73, but never checked it out, or the setlist. But if you look up the setlists for 6-22, 6-24 and 6-26, I'd have to make that my dream box. That leaves Dave the opportunity to release two 'iconic' shows (6-10 and 7-27/28), plus the three-show run in Universal City and the two-fer in Jersey City. Ultimately, 6-9 and 7-28 -- both daytime shows -- might be a tad weak for release, I cannot tell from the tinny versions out there. But the three-show NW tour looks spectacular! With the 45th anniversary upon us, I bet on Summer '73 NW tour. Three really long shows...
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I hear ya. But Cornell sold pretty well and that wasn't pre-hiatus.... And in the past the banners have been updated fairly regularly. I doubt that 6 months from the banner will still read "5,000 left". The point of the banner is to create urgency to buy it - knowing there's a whopping 5,000 left just tells everyone there's NO rush to buy it. Since it will be available new on this site for years, there's a ceiling on the value, and the used market WILL sell for cheaper, so many will just buy it there. And the CFO will keep walking into the room with, OK, 4,000 '89 RFK boxes - a quarter million dollars of working capital tied up in inventory - screaming "I thought we weren't going to hold lots of inventory anymore!!! What genius ordered 15k copies???"" That's why you don't produce too many - the whole supply/demand dynamic goes "kerplooie". And thats why the Dave's Picks business model works. They know the exact demand so they nail the production #, they collect the annual subscription $$ up front - so you're paying for the 4th release in the sub a full year ahead of time = healthy working capital. Then they sell ALL the rest of the run immediately after production, and ship the same week so there's NO $ tied up in inventory - DaP probably never even SEES the forlorn '89 RFK box in the warehouse because they prob ship from the manufacturer. . Neat and tidy - THAT's a good business model. If the CFO is popping any antacids, its because of RFK '89.
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.... where's the Anthem Of The Sun anniversary announcement? I have cash!
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Rhino has likely recovered most if not all of their costs for that release already. So, they don't have a quarter million dollars tied up. What they do have is a huge opportunity loss. That release was a head scratcher from day one. They only way the are going to unload the rest of that inventory, even if they can, is through deep discounts. Not surprised that 78 did not sell out either. As much praise as it gets here, that year does not do it for a lot of people. Myself included. I purchased the box, but listened only once. RULES OF BUSINESS Rule 1: The customer is always right. Rule 2: When in doubt, refer to Rule 1. Or as Keith and 80s said: RULES OF THE GRATEFUL DEAD BUSINESS Rule 1: Customers want pre-hiatus and 77. Rule 2: When in doubt, refer to Rule 1.
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Easy WindOperator Alligator Turn on Your Lovelight Hard to Handle Midnight Hour Mr. Charlie Next Time You See Me Big Boss Man King Bee Chinatown Shuffle Katie Mae Not necessarily ten, not necessarily in that order..............
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today's recommendation: 10/31/79 heard 5/17/74 while driving for Ubereats today. Strong show, not mindblowing, but worth a listen or two. also heard the rest of 12/6/71. Tasty stuff.
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Momma caught a chicken, thought it was a duck ... Ain't It CrazyAND Run, Run Rudolph. Ay, Compay!
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And full of WIN for all parties involved. June '73 RFK/RFK/PNE Box Set would be EPIC and would sell out PDQ. Really hope time has healed wounds with the Gregg Allman estate/etc. and can make it happen for fans of not only the GoGD, but the ABB as well.
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Dang it, knew I'd miss a few. Add Roberta, Bring Me My Shotgun and Black Snake from that incredible acoustic tape from 4-18-70. That was a revelation when it hit. This disc really shows Pig as bluesman, doing his Lightnin' Hopkins routine. Thanks Stoltzfus, there's always one that 'got away,' but I have to think of it this way: Age 15, bluejeans, t-shirt, sneakers, maybe $3-4 in my pocket, no ride, no nothing, hundreds of miles from home in a big dangerous city. What the hell was I going to do at midnight on Sunday? I mean, we slept out on the grass Saturday night after the show because there were thousands of Deadheads around. Sunday night, not likely. In fact, as I now recall, it wasn't school on June 11 -- school was out -- it was my godfather from Denver, where I live today, who was visiting Sunday night and I loved that man, who passed 20 years ago from MS. So it was a good thing to do to hitch home to see him. Today, after 46 years of relatively consistent psychedelic use, I feel pretty sharp and looking forward to getting back to the high desert in spring to polish my thought jewels til gleaming. Looking back, the GD, psychedelics and my adventuring led me far from the beaten path in this life. In June '73, I probably didn't need another 4-way after what transpired the day before. I like a lot of space/time after a trip to digest what I've learned. Of course, that approach went out the window at Watkins Glen! But you can bet I'd enjoy hearing the 6-10-73 tape straight from the vault, with a little dusting off by Mr. Norman.
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TastebudTwo Souls In Communion Caution
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DaP 25 #4908/18000 arrived last week. Gave it the one time through listen. Some nice moments in the first set and a cool Truckin' jam. The signal from Keith's piano definitely clips to saturation at times. Not quite as much finesse from him on this show as compared to May '77. I don't recall the keyboards being as distorted from 11/2, 11/4 or 11/5 '77. It doesn't really detract from the recording on a whole. RFK '89 is a great couple of shows. Don't understand the hatred and negativity towards them by some here. The depth and clarity of those mixes are immaculate. The performances are tight, energetic and spot on, and they're considered the weak shows from that tour by some people (not me). It's been on sale since when, November 10th (2.5 months ago)? Selling 10k-12k units since then is pretty darn good. Personally I think Spring '89 is under-represented and 3/30 and/or 3/31/89 should be a Dave's Pick.
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Don't understand why some folks who typically consider the '80s as their favorite period, constantly refer to hatred, animosity and negativity in their posts. I will agree that many people prefer other periods but I rarely, if ever, see posts actually expressing hatred etc. for '80s shows. Sure many people don't like Brent's voice or his Fisher Price plinky keyboard sound, but there are also plenty of people who really don't like Bobby's slide playing or over-the-top shouting or Donna's wailing but I also don't see people stating that they hate these aspects of the Dead's performances. Is there some deep-rooted paranoia amongst some of the people who prefer the '80s? Hatred is, after all a very strong word. Me, I got nothing against the '80s though it is not my favorite period. I enjoy the RFK '89 box with the exception of a couple of songs and I do not hate that couple, I just don't much enjoy 'em. Life is too short to hate, I reckon. Why waste energy on negativity?
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I wouldn't mind a '69 release with Dupree's Diamond Blues, Mountains of the Moon and Doin' That Rag. I'd also like to see a cover design that doesn't involve bearded skeletons. 2 had the raven and the Thelma release had the Alligator with the tracks. Perhaps a depiction of Mountains of the Moon or something.
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This week it's 6/30/85 - Thats a "destination" Shakedown!
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It's really just the one person who processes anything that is not overtly praise for the 80s as "80s hatred". You're quite right. Two box sets that didn't sell out were discussed. No negativity was leveed upon either in the discussion. There were just simple statements made about what the popular sellers are, which pared down to prehiatus and 1977. As you pointed out, nobody reacted with "I don't understand why people hate 1978". He's done it about other posts too. I recall when RFK came out, a comment was made about poor vocals on one track. It was a completely objective remark about performance quality, and the response this person got (from you know who) was "you must be an 80s 'hater'" From what I've seen, he just can't accept anything except praise for the 80s. It really drags this forum down at times, but that's life I guess. darkstartheotherone, I love your idea, and that WOULD make an awesome album cover, mountains on the moon, with maybe a U.S. flag being planted by a bearded skeleton.
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As was mentioned earlier, we are all in the same boat. Ship of fools, per se. Just a few folks need to be tossed overboard.
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I propose one of three unreleased sbd shows for the wished for '69 release 2/15/69 Electric Factory, Philadelphia https://themidnightcafe.org/2017/03/27/repost-bonanza-grateful-dead-phi… Download: SHN/MP3 –Set 1– 101-d1t01 – DOIN’ THAT RAG 102-d1t02 – CRYPTICAL ENVELOPMENT -> 103-d1t03 – THE OTHER ONE -> 104-d1t04 – CRYPTICAL ENVELOPMENT 105-d1t05 – MORNING DEW -> 106-d1t06 – TURN ON YOUR LOVE//LIGHT –Set 2– 201-d2t01 – DUPREE’S DIAMOND BLUES -> 202-d2t02 – MOUNTAINS OF THE MOON -> 203-d2t03 – DARK STAR -> 204-d2t04 – ST. STEPHEN -> 205-d2t05 – THE ELEVEN -> 206-d2t06 – DEATH DON’T HAVE NO MERCY 207-d3t01 – COSMIC CHARLIE 208-d3t02 – ALLIGATOR -> 209-d3t03 – DRUMS -> 210-d3t04 – ALLIGATOR -> 211-d3t05 – WE BID YOU GOOD NIGHT (JAM) -> 212-d3t06 – CAUTION (Do Not Stop On Tracks) -> 213-d3t07 – FEEDBACK -> 214-d3t08 – AND WE BID YOU GOOD NIGHT –Total Time–2:40:06– 4/5/69 Avalon Ballroom, SF https://themidnightcafe.org/2014/10/20/lossless-bootleg-bonanza-gratefu… Download FLAC: Mediafire Download MP3@320: Mediafire Recording Info: SBD -> Rm (7 inch Master Reels @ 7.5ips 1/2trk) -> Dat Transfer Info: Dat -> Sonic Solutions -> CD -> EAC -> Samplitude -> SHN (2 Discs Audio / 1 Disc SHN) Conversion By Charlie Miller charliemiler87@earthlink.net 7/29/03 Notes: Samplitude v6.0 was used to re-track the complete show. –Set 1– 101-d1t01 – Dupree’s Diamond Blues -> 102-d1t02 – Mountains of the Moon -> 103-d1t03 – Dark Star -> 104-d1t04 – St. Stephen -> 105-d1t05 – William Tell bridge -> 106-d1t06 – Turn on Your Lovelight –Set 2– 201-d2t01 – Hard To Handle -> 202-d2t02 – Cosmic Charlie 203-d2t03 – China Cat Sunflower -> 204-d2t04 – Doin’ That Rag 205-d2t05 – Cryptical Envelopment -> 206-d2t06 – Drums -> 207-d2t07 – The Other One -> 208-d2t08 – Cryptical Envelopment -> 209-d2t09 – The Eleven -> 210-d2t10 – It’s a Sin 211-d2t11 – Alligator -> 212-d2t12 – Drums -> 213-d2t13 – Feedback -> 214-d2t14 – And We Bid You Good Night Comments: Just before Cryptical Envelopment and again before Alligator Bobby noodles the opening chords of Weather Report Prelude. 4/22/69 The Ark, Boston https://themidnightcafe.org/2015/02/15/lossless-bootleg-bonanza-gratefu… Download FLAC/MP3: Mediafire Recording Info: SBD -> Master Cassette -> Reel -> Dat -> CD Transfer Info: CD -> Samplitude Professional v9.12 -> FLAC (2 Discs Audio / 2 Discs FLAC) All Transfers and Mastering By Charlie Miller charliemiller87@earthlink.net November 13, 2007 Notes: — Disc change is seamless — First few notes of Sittin’ On Top Of The World missing — Tape flips during The Other One and Dark Star — Lovelight contains a Caution Jam –Set 1– 101-d1t01 – /Sittin’ on Top of the World 102-d1t02 – Morning Dew 103-d1t03 – Beat It on Down Tte Line -> 104-d1t04 – Good Morning Little Schoolgirl 105-d1t05 – Doin’ That Rag 106-d1t06 – Cryptical Envelopment -> 107-d1t07 – Drums -> 108-d1t08 – The Other// One -> 109-d1t09 – Cryptical Envelopment -> 110-d1t10 – Death Don’t Have No Mercy –Set 2– 201-d1t11 – Monitor Levels 202-d1t12 – Dupree’s Diamond Blues -> 203-d1t13 – Mountains of the Moon -> 204-d2t01 – Jam -> 205-d2t02 – Dark Star -> 206-d2t03 – St. Stephen -> 207-d2t04 – The Eleven -> 208-d2t05 – Turn on Your Lovelight
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Does anybody have recordings of any of the John McLaughlin/Jimmy Herring tour that just ended?Please PM me if you have some and want to trade--Matt
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