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    "We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

    We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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  • MinasMorgul
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    I've never heard anything sloppy by them. The fact of the matter is they don't have many live albums, and the ones they do have don't sound thin. Curious what you heard MrDC? I woulld guess that the live Who everyone is touting here may include the following releases: Live At Leeds Live At Hull Live At The Isle Of Wight 1970 Live At The Young Vic The Kids Are Alright Movie Soundtrack A View From A Back Stage Pass And then there were some bonus tracks here and there. Most of the albums I mentioned were released way after their original breakup in '82. I wouldn't count anything they did without Moon in a discussion of the Who's renowned live repertoire. I suspect Mr DC, you may have heard Who's Last (this DOES sound thin, but it's post-Moon). Or any number of shows that were released long after Moon's passing.
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    I've been so blessed with friends and past girlfriends who have shaped so much of me and my life. One older friend was a fixture on the Hollywood scene in the mid-to-late 60s and swears Morrison was such an obnoxious prick in public most of the time, doing whatever it took to assure he was the center of attention whether it be good or bad. Upstaging other bands on stage from the first rows, drunk, etc. No matter. The guy was obviously one of those too bright fireballs streaking across the sky, gracing us with his presence and his art like a Scott Weiland, Cobain, Jimi Hendrix, etc. Some set of balls on that 27 club - whoa. \m/
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    .... cranking some Doors as we speak. Just another lost angel in the city of lights. Imagine if Morrison....
  • Vguy72
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    ....shame that Jim was drunk off his ass most of the time. Still. Dude could sing. And yell. And screech with the best of them. Cutting edge for the time. As far as him being an asshole. Don't know. Never met him. The old get old and the young get stronger.... your ballroom days are over baby. Example of Jim's voice https://youtu.be/BRX5NGG8MBI One of my favorite Doors songs.... psychedelic lounge music
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    As I said, it was a long time ago but I do seem to remember a total absence of stage banter. However, it seems that clarification is possible - Mr.Dc and jrf68 have both posted that the Isle of Wight performance is available to download. A quick listen should reveal the truth. As for drunken performances I have witnessed, The Kinks' shambolic, drunken "performance" at the Bickershaw Festival (Europe '72!) will forever top my list. "Banana boat song" anyone? Good to see a video of Captain Beefheart on here. His Bickershaw performance, unlike that of the Kinks, was one of the most amazing musical experiences it has been my good fortune to witness.
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    That is so funny. Yes 50 years will minimize a memory along with the actual physical distance experienced at that time will, likewise, negatively affect the enjoyment of it all. It is funny that there was an absence of band to audience communication from the band during that performance because The Doors Absolutely Live is resplendent with Morrison's funny and provocative comments. Jim did get a bad reputation at that time for too many things. When I read about some of the things he did then I can see why he was thought of as an asshole. When you read about, say, The Who's performances at that time and then catch The Doors on a Jim is too drunk night it is easy to understand why they would be a big disappointment. I would want a refund.
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    The Doors - thin sounding live? No idea!
    Bearing in mind that when I saw the Doors at the Isle of Wight Festival was almost 50 years ago and at was considered to be one of the largest gatherings of humankind ever - and I was perched on a hillside so far away that I could listen but not see the bands (I would have needed the visual resolution of an eagle), I can honestly say I have absolutely no idea if their sound was thin. I do know that I was never particularly impressed by their mixture of sounds - both Krieger and Manzarek were idiosyncratic players and I considered Morrison to be an asshole. If my memory serves me well, not a word was spoken between songs during their set which did not help to endear me to them. Not a high point in my musical experiences.
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  • daverock
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    The daddy of them all may have been King Crimson. They played a limited number of songs on their tours from 1969 to 1975, based on the albums they had most recently recorded, but they really attacked them differently each night. Attacked being the right word. And the music changed significantly during the timespan mentioned, as the line up of the band changed. The Welsh band Man used to jam effectively too, although sadly their songs weren't exactly top draw. Some bands sounded as though they were improvising, when the likelihood was that they had simply forgotten the arrangement. How does it go again?
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    The impression I get is that it was the norm for rock groups to play the same set every night, certainly during the 1970s. It didn't matter to me as it would never have occurred to me, then, to see a band twice on the same tour. I would typically see bands in the nearest city-Manchester-and then wait till they came around again the following year. I didn't know anybody who travelled about watching the same band, either. In fact, when The Dead came to London in March 1981, the first time I saw them, I had the same attitude. I got a ticket for one show. I couldn't believe it when I read a review of another nights concert from the same run, and noticed they had played a completely different set. I wonder-did people follow The Dead around in the 1960s and 70s? Or was the attitude the same as mine here in England? I didn't notice the crowd much in the 1981 concerts I saw ( I went in October, too. Only one show then too-but that was because of work commitments) But clearly, in 1990 there was a massive amount of Americans in the audience who seemed to have followed the band all over Europe.
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"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Don't let the bastards get ya' down. As a casual observer, all of you getting your ire up about SpaceBro give WAY more of a fuck than he does... Or, perhaps, you all know more than I do, and this is something that is fundamental to what it all means... Let's all chill out. I know that DaP25 is a bit of a let-down, but let's talk about something else on this board. How about... ANYTHING else. Have you all petitioned for 6/10/73? I know I did. My Pops was at both shows (mostly to see ABB.) Told me horror stories about people throwing batteries from the upper-deck of RFK. Scary. Sincerely, Ghost_Otis Peace
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Still waiting here in the UK - has everyone else received theirs? Am I just worrying needlessly that it's gone astray?
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I live in the UK, and mine hasn't arrived yet, either. I was starting to wonder if everything was okay, too. Maybe today will be the day.
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I was sorry to read things had been so difficult for you recently. Lets hope this year is a good one. For everyone.
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Well, last time I posted a similar query the postman turned up within five minutes bearing gifts, so here's hoping :)
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Thank you for trying to bring back some sanity to this place. Good Lord, its been like the worst season ever of The Real World on these pages. "What happens when 80s Grateful dead fans mix with 70s Grateful Dead fans, on an anonymous internet forum?" DaP 25 is a "bit" of a let down, I have to agree. Love the first set, its tight, and crisp. I've come to really like the tune "Passenger", for whatever reason. I find it an unheralded gem of their repertoire, a good upbeat rocker that fills the same role as the cowboy tunes in a set. I think it shows the best of Donna. Second set is kinda meh, when judged by the sky high standards of this band. This was the last show of the tour, right(?), maybe they were running out of gas, or running out of . . . sumthin'. I know that the occasional vocal flub is a time-honored tradition that often makes me chuckle and adds some levity to a set. But that Scarlet/Fire . . . woof. Its like they were all on different wavelengths, and no one was sure what to do next. The Disc 3 sequence to close everything out is solid though. Dissident -- I saw your blurb about 2-2-70. SWEET! I too have been delving into that winter 1970 run. I started with the Oregon shows from 1-16,17,18, then the two Hawaii shows, and I'm up to 1-31 just about to get busted on Bourbon Street. Just can't get enough Pig wailing away on Hard to Handle. My plan is to follow this all the way through to the Fillmore East on 2/14, which at my current rate will probably take me until 3/14. Speaking of releases I'm clamoring for, if they would just box up every note from the Fillmore East between 2-11 and 2-14 of 1970, Dead and Allmans sets included, I would take a second mortgage to get one for myself, and one for Spacebro :) :):) (Just a couple more smileys so Spacebro knows I'm not trying to stir the pot.) :) :) :) peace
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Awhile ago I posted about how Mrs Deadguy and I had to say goodbye to our dog recently, and told the story of how "Born to Run" came to be his theme song. LOTS of folks here sent me well-wishes and condolences, and pictures and stories about their dogs, and whatnot, and it was all great. Thanks to all of you.
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Justly famous Dancin'... Double solo'd unicorn Scarlet Begonias, strong pre-drums kick. Plush Stanley and powerful playing of both nights fueled EVEN MORE road lust in me for years.
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Your strategy worked for me-I didn't hear it arrive, but I've just noticed it lying on the door mat. Hope yours has arrived too!
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....saying goodbye to your best friend is one of the most emotional events of my life. I never though i could make the sobbing/moaning noises i did when i had to say goodbye to mine a couple of years ago. You want to see a "tough as nails" guy have a breakdown?
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We have 61 so far, including Elvis himself, who was escorted by an even more difficult to find man - Bolo. We can get a least 100. We've only been at it a little over 24 hours. If you don't know the drill, we're GOING to get our group name (whatever that turns out to be) associated with the release of our requested 6/9 and 6/10, 1973 RFK mini-box. Click here and post a comment with the subject RELEASE and the commment I Will Buy It (or something more creative). When we have a solid showing I will reach out to DL and Mark Pinkus and hold them at Bear-Point, demanding the release itself, as well as our due reckoning on the Seaside Chat and the liner notes. PM me with any suggestions on our "group name" - something that we can have Dave refer to as when he introduces the new release. You do NOT want to leave this to me, because I've been coming with lame stuff like Deadnet's Dark Stars and The Slipknot Gang. Click here to vote for RFK '73: http://www.dead.net/show/june-10-1973
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The nauseating painful constant back & forth on why we can't a DP release outside of the 1970-1978 window is enough already!!^!!The simple FACTS are there have been 26 Dave Picks released, and exactly 2 have been from years other than 1970-1978....that's not a fair & equitable representation of the Grateful Dead's career....that just straight manipulation of that window of time (1970-1978). Lets' move on from this tired debate....how about a discussion of the next box set that should have release news soon. Will it be the rumored (allegedly) shows from the Greek over there career...or Summer 1985 box??!?? Hmmmmmmm...
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Totally uncalled for. You should be ashamed.
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I'm filling it out now: "Dear "Sixtus", As a fan of the Grateful Dead, your opinion is invaluable to us. You are one of a small group of fans receiving this invitation to participate in a quick Dead.net survey. Our goal is to make Dead.net the best online resource for all things Grateful Dead. Please click the button below to begin the survey." VERY interesting timing. Maybe this thing is *actually on*.... Happy to see it come through and be able to provide real feedback. Guess what I'm agonna say.....6/10/73 baby!!! Sixtus
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I didn't get one. I should have known these surveys are not valid in sectors R and N.
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I love these releases and am happy for all of them. No other band has anything close to this going on, and it's awesome. It keeps the listening so fresh, I mean, how many times can one play "The Song Remains The Same," or "Get Your Ya Ya's Out." That being said, in light of my oft-stated preference for classic-era Dead, I felt duty-bound to dig in deep again to everything from about 1988 on... I've been listening to mounds of it for over a week now. There's moments that don't do it for me, lackluster effort from Jerry, Brent's excessiveness, etc., but by and large I find the late-era stuff to go from decent to really good. It grows on you. The band doesn't turn on a dime anymore and Jerry is no longer the outlaw, gunslinger guitarist of E72. The songs more or less have had their edges rolled off. There's almost a gentle, loping kind of sway to much of it. Feels like a reggae groove almost. Anyway, it is what it is, and when it's really good, I'll take it.
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I find that I return to Workingman's Dead pretty regularly, that album is really just about perfect. Anthem of the Sun is probably a close second, followed by Blues for Allah. Currently listening to the Scarlet-Fire from this release and still liking it. It's good to be easy to please, you spend a lot more time enjoying things. I actually like this release quite a bit, glad to have it.
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Yep, I got it and have just finished filling it in/out. @ Across the Rio: What exactly do you think that I should be ashamed of? Do you not believe that your actions affect the world around you and how the world then affects you in return? This is a basic tenet of several world religions and you should be ashamed for your summary dismissal of the beliefs of millions.
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I would swoon over a Summer of 73 Box. For years I've been hoping against hope that something from that time frame will be released. So far nothing, nada, zilch, a big goose egg. For me "Summer" that year starts in May with a fantastic 3 set show in Des Moines 5/13/73. This is the first show after the extensive Spring Tour that ended in Boston 4/2. The Des Moines show doesn't seem that widely known compared to the shows that follow. Its an outer space special. This showcases the heart of the 3rd set (sound is gorgeous)- https://archive.org/details/gd1973-05-13.set3.sbd.fix.smith.miller.1003… And man would I love to see released the 2/73 International Amphitheatre show that's featured on Jam of the Week. I get a feeling that tapes for part of this show are missing from the vault.
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How about discussing our favorite Dead "auras" instead? Today mine is a cosmic purple with patches of green and orange...
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I got one. Took it. Personally, I'm more of a Trapper John MD kind of guy. Frank Burns would be more of the type of guy who would donate to a charitable cause, then demand the recipient of the charitable cause pay him back. As far as the Wharf Rat and Let It Grow from the '89 RFK box, I stand by my every word about how good they are, how Brent was far from out-of-tune and my commentary about how people who never liked that era to begin with were never going to like it. The tinnitis comment would be one expanation for thinking one hears an out of tune note that isn't out of tune. It's a serious health issue that affects thousands of people and could explain why the person think it sounds out of tune. Otherwise I'll just figure it was anti-Brent bias. Gave DaP 24 a second listen earlier. I find that aside from the nice Truckin and the well-performed first set, it's a fairly mediocre affair with some bright spots. Bill and Mickey shine throughout.
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"exactly 2 have been from years other than 1970-1978....that's not a fair & equitable representation of the Grateful Dead's career" Exactly 3.5 have been from outside of the 1970-1978 window. So you're lying about the FACTS. DaP6 (12/20/69 and 1/2/70) DaP10 (12/10/69) DaP8 (11/30/80) DaP20 (12/9/81)
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This one caught and held my attention. This is great creative talent on display here (and a fitting tribute to the lyricist!):
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Aaaahhhhhhhh! Yes, it happened to me more than once... If you don't catch it right away, you never notice and then one day you hit play and record at the same time instead of just play.. but wait, it only happens on your favorite, low generation crispy favorite tape and you notice almost right away, but it's already too late. Proving more than once... I have been a dumb ass. As for colors.. Green haters beware - green is clearly the best color.. it's true I like all colors, even black.. but Green is clearly the best. Or is it Greene? Whatever.. no bother.. green rocks no reason to debate this further. A very respectful, old time poster wrote something a couple weeks ago to the effect.. I was listening to xx/xx/71 today, a show I have listened to a number of times.. and I noticed something new I had had never noticed before. It might have been frosted or one of our CA friends, I forget.. might have been the 71 Texas Road Trips.. ..but the same thing happens to me all the time. Yesterday listening to a show that I have listened to many times over the years. I fell right into that grove the band was in, one of those PITB/UJB segways. Jerry fell into this fold and the whole band followed.. complete synchronicity, perfectly timed and powerful. green. Anyway.. regardless of the color or the show, when the band falls into one of those folds and you happen to catch the same wave, there is nothing like it. Quintessential Grateful Dead. It matters not the night, the color, the year or the personnel.. when they catch fire and you are in the right frame of mind to take it all in... Bliss.
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..... favorite colors (colours)! Yes I think we can all agree that this is a good thing.
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Popping the tabs. Nice Green is the Colour, thanks.
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Yes, just like not popping them on a cassette affected the music!!! Enjoy your weekend. bob t
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I really like this show. Give it a try if you haven't heard it. But you gotta turn it up to 11 (or more). I got it on more. Sunshine!!! Next up ... 2/15/73 - see ya then.
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Dead of the Day: February 9, 1973 http://gratefuldeadoftheday.com/02-09-1973 Roscoe Maples Pavilion Palo Alto, California Without a doubt, our Dead of the Day is February 9, 1973 at Stanford University’s Roscoe Maples Pavilion in Palo Alto, California. Not only is the show historic, with seven first time playeds and the debut of the proto Wall of Sound, but it has some very good moments and a wicked setlist. With the new sound system, the band encountered a host of technical problems, including blowing out all the tweeters as Promised Land just got started, kicking off the first set. They also clearly had difficulty hearing themselves on the stage, especially in the first set. Still, this show is one for the ages with a spectacular They Love Each Other and smoking Truckin’. The fact that the They Love Each Other was one of the debuts is just amazing, but many of the other new tunes – Here Comes Sunshine, Row Jimmy, Loose Lucy, Wave that Flag, China Doll, and Eyes of the World – came out as stunners as well. There is also a beer-barrel polka for those aficionados. The February 9th show opened 1973 for the band, six days before they began their tour in earnest out in the Midwest. The year would prove to be one of the best for the Grateful Dead as they honed a new style, encompassing their earlier psychedelic, blues, and Americana, but adding a purposeful, exploratory jamming to the mix that really became, all mixed together, the heart and soul of the Dead sound. Named after the major donor who funded the project, the Roscoe Maples Pavilion, primarily constructed for basketball, had only been open for three years when the Dead came storming into it. The central floor, where the basketball court resided, was designed to be slightly springy, to protect athletes from hard landings. Once the heads started dancing at the show, the floor began undulating with the movement, making for a strange and wavy feeling that more than one person mistook for the effects of drugs. Just before the beginning of the second set, Wavy Gravy gives a little rap about raising money to replace the Bach Mai hospital in Vietnam. During Operation Linebacker II, a massive aerial bombardment of North Vietnam in late 1972, the hospital was leveled by bombs intended for the Bach Mai airfield. Eventually, donations, many coming from the American left and peace movement, helped rebuild the facility.
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..was one of the first soundboards I got on tape. It sounded 'pretty good' but it as reaaalllllyyyyy slow. Not pitch corrected. It was so early on, I just thought it was a slow and mellow show. Again.. it sounded ok just the opposite of chipmonked, in hindsight.. someone's batteries must have been running low when the tape was transferred. Years later I got an upgrade at the proper pitch. Still like that grove they get going in Eyes of the World. A unique version.
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Is it a shady grove?
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If you have never listened take a listen, right after Eyes of the World.... Fire on the Mountain 9 months before they played it with no lyrics... have a good weekend, bob t
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