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    "We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

    We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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  • MinasMorgul
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    I've never heard anything sloppy by them. The fact of the matter is they don't have many live albums, and the ones they do have don't sound thin. Curious what you heard MrDC? I woulld guess that the live Who everyone is touting here may include the following releases: Live At Leeds Live At Hull Live At The Isle Of Wight 1970 Live At The Young Vic The Kids Are Alright Movie Soundtrack A View From A Back Stage Pass And then there were some bonus tracks here and there. Most of the albums I mentioned were released way after their original breakup in '82. I wouldn't count anything they did without Moon in a discussion of the Who's renowned live repertoire. I suspect Mr DC, you may have heard Who's Last (this DOES sound thin, but it's post-Moon). Or any number of shows that were released long after Moon's passing.
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    I've been so blessed with friends and past girlfriends who have shaped so much of me and my life. One older friend was a fixture on the Hollywood scene in the mid-to-late 60s and swears Morrison was such an obnoxious prick in public most of the time, doing whatever it took to assure he was the center of attention whether it be good or bad. Upstaging other bands on stage from the first rows, drunk, etc. No matter. The guy was obviously one of those too bright fireballs streaking across the sky, gracing us with his presence and his art like a Scott Weiland, Cobain, Jimi Hendrix, etc. Some set of balls on that 27 club - whoa. \m/
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    .... cranking some Doors as we speak. Just another lost angel in the city of lights. Imagine if Morrison....
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    ....shame that Jim was drunk off his ass most of the time. Still. Dude could sing. And yell. And screech with the best of them. Cutting edge for the time. As far as him being an asshole. Don't know. Never met him. The old get old and the young get stronger.... your ballroom days are over baby. Example of Jim's voice https://youtu.be/BRX5NGG8MBI One of my favorite Doors songs.... psychedelic lounge music
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    As I said, it was a long time ago but I do seem to remember a total absence of stage banter. However, it seems that clarification is possible - Mr.Dc and jrf68 have both posted that the Isle of Wight performance is available to download. A quick listen should reveal the truth. As for drunken performances I have witnessed, The Kinks' shambolic, drunken "performance" at the Bickershaw Festival (Europe '72!) will forever top my list. "Banana boat song" anyone? Good to see a video of Captain Beefheart on here. His Bickershaw performance, unlike that of the Kinks, was one of the most amazing musical experiences it has been my good fortune to witness.
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    LOL! SimonRob
    That is so funny. Yes 50 years will minimize a memory along with the actual physical distance experienced at that time will, likewise, negatively affect the enjoyment of it all. It is funny that there was an absence of band to audience communication from the band during that performance because The Doors Absolutely Live is resplendent with Morrison's funny and provocative comments. Jim did get a bad reputation at that time for too many things. When I read about some of the things he did then I can see why he was thought of as an asshole. When you read about, say, The Who's performances at that time and then catch The Doors on a Jim is too drunk night it is easy to understand why they would be a big disappointment. I would want a refund.
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    The Doors - thin sounding live? No idea!
    Bearing in mind that when I saw the Doors at the Isle of Wight Festival was almost 50 years ago and at was considered to be one of the largest gatherings of humankind ever - and I was perched on a hillside so far away that I could listen but not see the bands (I would have needed the visual resolution of an eagle), I can honestly say I have absolutely no idea if their sound was thin. I do know that I was never particularly impressed by their mixture of sounds - both Krieger and Manzarek were idiosyncratic players and I considered Morrison to be an asshole. If my memory serves me well, not a word was spoken between songs during their set which did not help to endear me to them. Not a high point in my musical experiences.
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    The daddy of them all may have been King Crimson. They played a limited number of songs on their tours from 1969 to 1975, based on the albums they had most recently recorded, but they really attacked them differently each night. Attacked being the right word. And the music changed significantly during the timespan mentioned, as the line up of the band changed. The Welsh band Man used to jam effectively too, although sadly their songs weren't exactly top draw. Some bands sounded as though they were improvising, when the likelihood was that they had simply forgotten the arrangement. How does it go again?
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    The impression I get is that it was the norm for rock groups to play the same set every night, certainly during the 1970s. It didn't matter to me as it would never have occurred to me, then, to see a band twice on the same tour. I would typically see bands in the nearest city-Manchester-and then wait till they came around again the following year. I didn't know anybody who travelled about watching the same band, either. In fact, when The Dead came to London in March 1981, the first time I saw them, I had the same attitude. I got a ticket for one show. I couldn't believe it when I read a review of another nights concert from the same run, and noticed they had played a completely different set. I wonder-did people follow The Dead around in the 1960s and 70s? Or was the attitude the same as mine here in England? I didn't notice the crowd much in the 1981 concerts I saw ( I went in October, too. Only one show then too-but that was because of work commitments) But clearly, in 1990 there was a massive amount of Americans in the audience who seemed to have followed the band all over Europe.
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"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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I doubt if any of us, on this site, would oppose a nice "Live At The Greek" Grateful Dead box set. I was never able to see any of these shows and it would be nice, in my "golden years," to be able to sit back with a pair of Focal Clear headphones and a cold beer....a nice bowl of tobacco...and enjoy every note.So, Dave, if you read these posts, please make an old man a "happy" old man and put this out for...us! Mr. Pete-----------> aging hippie
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Hell yes! Where do I sign the petition? What should our name be? I was groovin to the Summer of 76 all last summer. Its perfect summertime music, an easy, loping, drippy vibe. (hat tip to Stoltzfus for drippy) There's more intense, complex Dead shows, but I dont need to visit Deep Space when I'm outside cleaning off the grill.
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I wouldn't want Dave to get distracted from 10th June 1973. Or Anthem mixes and live disc.
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Powerful video there. Thanks for sharing. So we even bootleg the funerals.... OK.... Let's hope videos of the band's preventative medical procedures don't start going mainstream. 1991 has been overlooked when it comes to releases, which at first seems surprising since I thought the shows were akin to '90 in so many ways (like 73/74). And Horsnby seemed to wake the band up a bit and return to that barrelhouse piano sound, like '72. It woke up fans like me as well who had been disillusioned by some of the late-era excess and sloppiness - suddenly they were fresh and bright again - it felt like another incremental step up from '89>'90>'91 (though in retrospect I think we all agree '90 was the peak of that arc) But I guess there are enough reasons for the '91 passover including 1) '90's were multitrack while '91 is 2-track so may as well release '90 first, 2) a LOT of the '91 DAT masters leaked out and we all already have the shows in stunning Gen 1 digital splendor and they worry sell-thru might be weak - a valid concern, 3) Hornsby's label/royalty issues may be a hold-up?, and 4) the digital mixes do come off a bit "cold" I suppose??? (especially compared to '90!) A '91 box would be nice if they can significantly improve the sound from the stuff we already have - tricky on a 2-track. Have to admit I'm not aching for a '91 box or release because I already have so many of the DAT masters, 1st gen. That's like HOLDING a Betty reel! Doesn't get much better than that!
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Felt a little uneasy watching at first-almost as if I was intruding. However I'm glad I watched-powerful, real moment. I guess we're all a little part of the family in some way anyway. Safe travels JPB.
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Does ‘2-track’ matter if the master is a DAT?The digital space should be able to accommodate all the signals. Tape tracks were limited by the number of magnetic particles available on the tape, so the wider the tape the more particles available for recording. Even with the 91 DATs, a Miller version seems to sound better, or is it just a placebo effect? Slap ‘Miller’ on something and it seems better (except beer). So there still might be some Normanization room for those 91’s. We have 10-27-90, 6-14-91, 9-10-91, 9-25-91 so I don’t see any issue with Hornsby royalties, and I doubt that Bruce would have any issue with it. He loves GD just as much as we do. He’s also on the RFK ‘89 Box. Edit: Also, the summer 91 video might have multitrack audio associated with it.
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I listened to some of disc one in a meditative state of mind half-step is glorious. glorious, I say. jack straw is awesome. then I dozed off; got woken up by a family member calling for a ride. I'll listen to more today. half-step is magnificent.
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exactly. well said 80sfan. a little too private a moment. but I watched the whole thing. Here's to John Barlow.
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Sign me up for the June 76 box also, 6/3, 6/14 are what I'd want to see/hear the most, definitely worth it considering how great that month was, it also had/has 6/10 and 6/19 which I also really enjoy. There are actually a bunch of shows from that 1976 I'd also like to see get released such as 8/4, 9/27 and 10/01. As for an 80s or 90s Daves Picks, I personally would like one of those to be from the years 83-84 or 93-94. For 83, the shows 6/18, 9/6 and 10/12 came to mind pretty quick. As for 1984 I could see maybe 3/31, or 7/7 making good picks, but I would also love to see something from later in the that year. 1993 has a bunch of shows from the spring that I really enjoy, 3/24 and 3/25 being just a couple examples. Finally 1994 has 7/21 and a few good shows from october-december, such as 10/14, 10/18, 12/11 and 12/19.
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Anyone going to Florida / Orlando and Sunrise at end of month for Dead and Company ? 1973 box set , I thought it was going to be 3 shows from Universal Amphitheater June 29-30 and July 1 6.10.73 ~ RFK . I am pretty sure the powers that be had sent them off to Plangeant Process and gotten them back.
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I see that the Feb newsletter says nothing of interest (to me)... Thus, a March announcement on preorder for a May box? April shipping on DaP 26? (1971 here I come...)? May shipping on box? June news of Anthem reissue with single-disc '68 show? This would work for MY schedule...
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...the family went forward because they granted his dying wish...:(...the video posted was not or still is not one of his wishes as far as I have heard...a victim of social mass media. :(
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"Even with the 91 DATs, a Miller version seems to sound better, or is it just a placebo effect? Slap ‘Miller’ on something and it seems better (except beer). So there still might be some Normanization room for those 91’s." ...a placebo effect? Maybe. ...better or worse / Miller vs Norman ...sonically ( IMHO ) Norman Why? ........taste / source ...I'm kinda straddling a fence right now. One side of me wishes for an 80's release and the other side of me wants a 90's release. My balls are starting to hurt! Lol :p
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- The comments on DaP25 sure died off pretty quickly so I think it is safe to assume that overall folks were not overly impressed. I think the sound itself is incredible. The first set is stellar, and I always love a good Truckin, but I guess overall the show is not outstanding - The dreaded Yellow Box on Amazon.UK is sold out so no need to beat that Dead horse one way or the other. I myself partook of one as my Xmas present to myself and I am glad I did. Maybe all of the music and extras can be found on the web but I didn't have the inclination or know how to get it. I figured $50 total for 7 shows was a very good deal and I for one am glad I got it - As far as the next box set, hard to believe Rhino will rush to offer another one at this time when '78 & "89, which are both OUTSTANDING, have not yet sold out. As I have said in the past, if Rhino is going to offer any shows in download form, they need to scale back physical production a lot. I myself am a cd guy so I will buy everything as soon as it is offered - Recently ran through all 36 of the DP series in order. I was surprised that the one that that surprised me the most was DP9, 9/16/90, MSG. Really, really good. I am now working my way through the DaP series in order - Where the heck is the Anthem of the Sun 50th anniversary edition? I NEED that one now! Rock on
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I really love this show, the whole group are tuned in and it grooves. Aside from a few vocal slips the 'Scarlet/Fire' is lovely, it's almost 'in dub' and the transition is gorgeous, quite' Space' like. Donna is excellent throughout, she calls to mind what Emmylou Harris did for Gram Parsons and Bill and Mickey are amazing. Some of the percussion work is stunning, as on the powerful reading of 'Wharf Rat'. Thanks to all responsible for this great show.
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I'd buy this one too! My understanding years ago was that Dick was set to release the show, and instead opted at the last minute for the previous night, 2nd set of which I rate a 9+ on the latter years scale. (It would be fun to read documentary detail from Dick's process.) 1983 is one of the inconsistent great years, where hot, stony stretches of music were over the moon, and then... whaaa? I'd buy this one too!
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I second the endorsement of Dick's Picks 9. I rarely reach for anything after 1979 but a friend caught me in a weak moment last weekend and I plugged in the second set of this monster. I was wowed. If you haven't heard it in a while, now might be the time.
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I wasn’t saying that Miller sounds better than Norman, I was saying that my Miller 91’s sound better than my non-Miller 91’s (or is it my imagination/placebo effect).Thus, Fully Normanized 91’s would sound better than the Millers.
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I'll start:1. 5/8 (GSTL Box) 2. 5/25 (DaP 1) 3. 5/17 (May 1977 Box) Or Top 10, your call. Heck, go crazy and rate 'em all!! And "Terrapin" is a fine, fine song...but could never replace the mighty "Dark Star" in '77 (or '78 until NYE for that matter.) Glad they retained "TOO" of course.
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Woke up early this morning. That is a good thing at my age. Saw that the three shows, in Mexico, are available on cds. A "great" way to start a day. I'm....grateful! Mr. Pete-----------> aging hippie
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Honorable...yupDecorated...yup Disabled...yup No passport...believe it or not,yup Angry motherfucking veteran/citizen...you bet. Got it. I'm not an American. I won't bother anyone with my whiney bitching anymore. Thanks for listening,if ya did in the first place... Boy do I feel like a loser. Can't sleep...
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Its not you that is the loser-its them. You seem like the opposite. I wondered if there was any independent organisation that could advocate on your behalf-or maybe a branch of the services that could help. You probably wouldn't want to get into all that-and God knows you shouldn't have to - but if there is someone out there who could help, it might be worth getting in touch with them. All the best, Dave
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Complain to your elected officials.Then notify your local TV stations about how a veteran was denied a passport. One of the TV stations will pick up the story and start asking questions.
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I live in the Uk and so far have not received Dave's Picks 25 - bummer!
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Sorry to hear about this-nothing worse than red tape/bureaucracy. Don't give up the fight brother-like others have said, continue to make a stink over it and eventually the right person will hopefully notice!
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Hell no. Had tickets to dead and co in orlando in dec. cancelled and rescheduled after I drove all the way down there and spent X amount on hotel rooms and party favors, to be denied, so no, no dead and co for me and that is probably a good thing, I was not expecting much but I was at least hoping for a show, big disappointment and a huge waste of money. (I really wanted to see Mickey and Billy, but that was not to be). That's twice in a row I have been denied a dead show, Bobby's ratdog show right before the FTW fiasco, lol, Fare the well? should have been called Phil's big payoff, who was suppose to "retire" after those shows, what happened Phil? Got a second wind? Terrapin not paying off like you thought it would? Greed?, and don't even get me started on that sorry excuse for a guitar player replacement, Trey? really? It was all about what Phil wanted and the rest just went along for the paycheck, and then the Dead and co show. Guess my race is run. Watch out hbob, there are people on this very site who will attack you for this purchase or any opinion which is not of there liking or who don't agree with you. Besides, don't you know that these shows can be found on the internet? Which was pointed out to me by some guy who just had to point that out like he knew everything dead or like I had been living in a cave for the last 20 years. I purchased those cd's in the 90's before the www. You know, I think I'm done on this site, I know, I've said that before but there are just too many snarks here that attack you for your opinion, why bother, the love is gone and all that is left is the debate. I don't want to debate any of you, I just love the Grateful Dead. Not Fare the well, not the dead, not furthur, not dead and co., the God Damn Grateful Dead. What happened to the love? Dead and Gone like Jerry. At least I have my memories of what it was really like, not this plastic fake dead they have now. They are all cover bands without Jerry.
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you might even (I can't believe I'm saying this), write to that guy in the White House. anyone who has the cajones to join the military should be treated as gold. I certainly wasn't brave enough. give it a try, and DON'T GIVE UP.
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.... tell us what you really think. :-) In the end you have to love a person who knows what they like.
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#11020 in my box today.Might not be the first one here in Germany cause there are some copies on ebay since one week and longer. Gar-see-ya JJ
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...gotcha, sorry about that :)
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...first release!(In case anyone is not aware of the Bear foundation). :) https://owsleystanleyfoundation.org/product/doc-merle-watson-never-way-… Doc & Merle Watson: Never the Same Way Once – Live at the Boarding House – May 1974 Rated 5.00 out of 5 based on 5 customer ratings(5 customer reviews) $80.00 7 CD Box Set from 4 nights of shows as played in 1974. This is the first box set of live recordings ever released of Doc & Merle Watson, containing 7 CDs and 94 tracks spanning 4 nights of shows. Features a 16-page booklet of liner notes, including new material from Watson collaborators T. Michael Coleman (who plays bass on these recordings) and David Holt. The first Bear’s Sonic Journals release produced entirely by the Owsley Stanley Foundation from Owsley’s storied trove of live concert recordings. Exclusive debut April 27th at the 30th annual MerleFest, the premiere bluegrass festival named after Merle Watson and hosted in Wilkesboro, North Carolina near the Watsons’ family home. General release June 23, until then only available at OwsleyStanleyFoundation.org
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Been on an '81 bender recently. Love the 5/1/81 Hampton show and lots of other stuff on that tour.... 5/16/81 from 30 Trips is also great. Can't recall if I've brought this up in the past, but does anyone know if there's a good copy of 5/5/81 Glens Falls, NY that may have surfaced anywhere in recent years? All I can find is an OK AUD that I have had and loved forever, but haven't ever seen a good SBD. The show is firecracker from start to finish with a crazy-good setlist. Highly recommended, even just the audience version, downloadable: https://archive.org/details/gd1981-05-05.fob.nak300.morris.102023.sbeok… Bob - Agree that 9/16/90 is a great show. Sleeper setlist, but the whole show is energetic and fluid. A great show, hugely underrated. Also, I wonder if doing smaller boxes and more of them might be a good idea? If each box had 2-3 shows instead of 4-7 shows, you could release more boxes! Last year we got a 2-disc box and a 4-disc box... it's nice getting 2/year, from different eras. Or maybe three 2-show boxes? 6/9-10/73, 6/10-11/76, and 6/20-21/80?
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I got the webcast last night - disaster. It buffered constantly like Max Headroom for an hour - I spent that hour assuming the problem was on my end, rebooting my modem, rebooting computer, clearing my caches, clearing trash = more computer memory, etc. Nothing worked. I finally just turned it off - MADDENING. This morning they issued an apology saying the issue was on THEIR end! Their technology partner in Mexico couldn't handle the bandwidth and they are trying to fix, but that the apparently the disclaimer you have to click includes an "absolutely no refunds - all sales final" clause. ("Who doesn't read the user agreement?!!!" to quote South Park - LOL). Today I complained asking for a refund and they said they don't do that but do I want a free show in the future? No... No, I don't. Demanding a refund. So "buyer beware" on nugs.net streaming the D&C shows. There's a chance it won't work, and if it doesn't, you're hosed. [edit: Just got an e-mail - Apparently my rather pointed threat of filing a formal complaint to my bank/credit card regarding this nugs.net D&C simulcast transaction succeeded in getting them to reverse the charge on my card, in case anyone else experienced the same.]
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One year ago today, 16 February 2017, a Thursday, Get Shown The Light box set went on pre-order and the 15,000 set sold out quite quickly. Oh, the joy! Oh the mayhem! Oh, the humanity! Oh, don't bogart that joint! On 20 February 2017, an "all music edition" went on pre-order. It's a re-packaging of the original set minus the book by Peter Conners, "Cornell '77" which could be bought separately at other retailers, and later at dead.net. This set is still available. I like the music in the first "May 1977" box just a hair better than these 5/5-7-8-9/77 shows, but I extremely happy that these shows came home the the Grateful Dead vault and were released as soon as possible - just in time for their 40th anniversary.
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No, that's not a new Fender model. Thanks for the heads up - ! - on the Dead & Co. Mexico streaming disaster. I was seriously considering hooking up for nights 2 and 3, I will heed the warning and pass on the frustration. At some point, Dead & Co. will release a live video. I appreciate the rants of all the caustic old geezers like unkle sam, and all the rest of you. It's the color, and the different views that make any forum interesting. I think it's fine to totally blow something out of the water (Trey, bootlegs, 90s Dead - whatever) without making the attack personal. It is the opposing viewpoint which forces one to hone one's arguments, and any bullshit will have holes soundly poked in it. That is the essence of good debate, and it is never too late to learn. As an oft-proclaimed 70s head, I've been re-listening to 7/7/89 Philadelphia (Crimson, White & Indigo) and, man, what a stellar show. After the Era Wars, I'm actually digging the later stuff a lot more now.
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"So by your logic, if I'm short on rent one month, It'd be OK to create 100 Dead boxes and peddle them to coffee shops and record stores in Boston - "Summer '73!", making $20 profit on each = $2,000! " yep, it would ... put me down for 2 then when the shows are Normanized on this site I'd buy the upgrades.
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As a post-hiatus/pre-coma prefer picky Dead Head, i wave that white flag. I wave it high and wide. Better yet i just bought Dick's Pick 9 last night. All eras have their "X-Factor" number of shows......just some more than others.
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....yeah. I remember. One of the most stressful days of the year for me. Was at work, and put everything else on hold for a couple of hours. But in the end, it was worth it. Boston anyone?
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Vguy - I'm in tears!!! #2 is good, too.
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That is laugh out loud hilarious. Got me rolling through a few of those that are in a similar vein. They're all a hoot. Great way to start a sunny Saturday! Thank you!!
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....these Dead/classic TV show mash-ups are one of my new favorite things in the world!
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I'm like that. I often start listening to shows from a year I don't normally rate, after reading of someone else's enthusiasm on here. It happened this morning when I listened to the bonus tracks from Daves Picks 18-16th July 1976. I don't often play a 1976 show, but I put this on after reading of the requests for a Summer 1976 box on here-glad I did, too. Excellent show. I still can't countenance the idea of listening to a Jerryless Dead, though. My loss.
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looking at you daverock. sorry just being snorky. (not a typo. Zappa was fond of using snorks.) Era War is over (if you want it). hooray! 8/26/71 is good stuff. I want 6 Dave's per year. even 8. c'mon Dave, you can make it happen!!!
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