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    When our previous topic hit the 1,000-response mark, sleazy behavior by politicians was eliciting a certain amount of non-astonishment.

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  • marye
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    well said badger
    this self-determination thing, it's not just for us...
  • TigerLilly
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    how bout the students who voluntarily stood in front of the National History museum, to protect it from looters. Act of peaceful civil courage, if you ask me.********************************** I am not young enough to know everything. Oscar Wilde
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    You said it better! Excellent point puroshaggy. ********************************** I am not young enough to know everything. Oscar Wilde
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    what price liberty?
    In the 1960s the US and its allies supported nasty strong man leaders all across SE Asia and S America to protect their access to primary resources and to prevent the spread of communism. Millions suffered from the resulting abuses…people enslaved to protect the interests of Western democracies. In the last 20 years the policy has been the same for the Arab states. Sell us oil, leave Israel alone and we will pay you and you can do what you like to your own people. The uprisings in Tunisia and Egypt appear to be borne out of frustration with oppression and are definitely not Islamic revolutions. Of course the extreme Islamists will try to take advantage, but in both those countries by far the majority of ordinary people are not extremists. They are just like folks everywhere else. The most effective way to open the doors to radical Islam is to send in our boys to teach them democracy at gunpoint. Let these people determine their own futures even if you don’t like what they choose. Is that not the liberty that is so dear to Americans and the West, or is that liberty only issued in a limited edition?
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    The most amazing thing about what is going on in Egypt- especially in light of the US's recent spat of "second amendment remedies" and gun violence (Tuscon, Detroit, college campuses across the country)- is the remarkable absence of guns and weapons on the streets. Yes, there is looting and people are having to defend their property with weapons- but the protestors, on the streets, are NOT waving guns or firing shots in the air. Violence and destruction are occurring, but considering the widespread protesting, AND considering the fact that the US media loves to hype up all violence to the point of distortion, I think that what we are seeing in Egypt is pretty remarkable.Compare this with Glenn Beck's rhetoric and Palin's crosshairs and the gun hysteria we have here. When (not IF) the day comes when people get fed up and take the streets here in the US, I doubt we are going to witness widespread protests as peaceful as Egypt's.
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    Maybe s Lilly
    But this is a as historical as bringing the Berlin Walla tumbling Down, so far. tt is the pent up frustration of a diverse crowd and you have to wonder why Iraq, Iran & Afghanistan didn't go this way. And Billary issuing orders to other people's armies to stand down in the face of popular protest. Now what exactly is the difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter?? Oh, a freedom fighter uses a kindler, gentler shrapnel bomb -- Yeah, that must be it!
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    What's radically Islam bout this guy?? http://www.hindustantimes.com/ElBaradei-Egypt-s-emerging-patriot/Articl… ********************************** I am not young enough to know everything. Oscar Wilde
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    Gonzo-Egypt won't necessarily become more radically Islamic-85% of the population are against having a fundamentalist govt. BUT I guess it depends on what happens internally, and how much the West meddles, etc.********************************** I am not young enough to know everything. Oscar Wilde
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    Another take on Arab unrest
    Only Islamic countries that are friedly with the West are being brought dowh --Tunsia, Eqyi[y, Algeria, Jordan, Bahrain and others. A more unified radical Islam is is constituting itself.
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    check out this video
    my son-in-law is the store owner that is interviewed... http://www.azcentral.com/video/?bctid=756871629001
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to learn that the original hot stepper Gregory issacs passed away yesterday....... may the four winds blow you safely home.
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Last year it was Kodachrome, this year the Walkman. Next thing you know, they'll stop making rotary telephones.
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Paul the soccer-predicting octopus has died. R.I.P. Paul!********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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paul gone, our chatroom gone, gonzo gone....i'm outa cookies, and the news item ripple posted is not available.......arrg!!
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Thanx, marye....when I typed in the info from ripple I got a notice saying "this domain no longer served".
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paul the pshycic octopus,and i also miss gonzos pearls of wisdom about those cookies jm ill bake some for you and meet you in the chatroom real soon brother!!!!!
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cookies......!!
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Game 1 of the World Series: Giants are all over Cliff Lee and the Rangers in the 6th.....Juan's deep drive openned it up.. 8 to 2 right now. Lincecum heating up looking good.
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reference at all too this topic i just feel comfortable in here,just wanted to wish you all peace,love and happiness have a grate weekend boys and girls. best wishes Ripple70.
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The cartoon hits the nail on the head with the emergence of the Palinistas and their divisive ideas and statements. I need to go put on my Youngbloods album and sing along w Jesse.
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Renteria with the dagger again! Giants are up in game 5 after another Renteria hit, this time a big 3 run dinger: He sunk the Tribe in 1997 with a hit in game 7. Ironically, in 1954, the Giants beat the Tribe for their last Series win.
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Would not want anyone else to win if it cant be a Tiger.!! :):):):) Yahooo for the City Blessings to the Players and wife's and all the people that make it happen (the grunts) Do For Other's you Will Feel Better!!! Guaranteed
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Must be a party in SF! "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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Do For Other's you Will Feel Better!!! GuaranteedI believe you might like them. Most do.
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ok i lie i never have one question but will try to limit my self. Do For Other's you Will Feel Better!!! Guaranteed
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Do For Other's you Will Feel Better!!! Guaranteed Not like its bad . But will have to perform a forced quit hate making my Mac do what it does not want to.:):)
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Do For Other's you Will Feel Better!!! Guaranteed
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Do For Other's you Will Feel Better!!! Guaranteed
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jm,lily,dave,mean al,gc,ted,jackstraw wheres all the news hounds at this whole place is full of strangerswhere they marye.
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... just to shake their hand! Thanks, Ripple, for triggering a lyric from one of my favorite Hunter songs. Prop 19 went down in defeat out on the left coast last night. Meanwhile, in Kansas, the state selected all the Republican candidates......arrgh! US House of Reps also swung over to a Republican majority, putting Ohio's John Boehner in the Speaker position. Pres. Obama and his platform of change has hit a big speedbump.
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missing Gonzo's inspiration with hard news, but is no reason to shirk my self-appointed responsibility! Am also at a bit of a loss about what to say about yesterday's elections in America, and wanna pick carefully what news to post from that!********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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Yes Prop 19 was interesting, and terriffic that it was up for voting at all, BUT a whole lot more serious and scary issues on board right now than the right to be high or not, or at least in my opinion!********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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With all the influx of traffic to the site, my connection speed seems to have slowed down. Mostly just a little depressed this morning over the elections, not that it was unexpected. In my own Congressional district, I've been trying to vote out since I arrived in this state Virginia Foxx (looks like a stripper's name with the "XX", I know, but she's a blue-haired grandma), a former Bush sycophant and now a major obstructionist. She famously announced to the House this year that Matthew Shepard's murder was a robbery-homicide and that he was not targeted because he was gay, that the whole "hate crime" thing was a hoax perpertrated on the American people. While Matthew's mom was in attendance at the hearing... Just the tip of the Foxx iceberg, but the rural NC folks in my district (a gerrymandered-looking district if I've ever seen one) love her. I'm at a loss to understand why. I KNOW why, I just don't understand it. Mean Al
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I don't understand the lies and paranoia and insanity flying around either. It boggles my mind, honestly. Lies like you just told from Ms. Foxx. SOME folks should have to listen to our news over here for 2-3 days, to see what the rest of the world thinks about these elections. But then again prolly those folks don't care!! ********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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Michigan has such sheep as people we hire people who out source their ex company(GATEWAY)We just had a Major community say no to medical and not even allowed to grow in. The area is rural. Funny they all want to change the law we voted in by 63%. Prop 19 was defeated by the dispensaries and those cashing in a little know fact. Look were they gave their money. And there are far bigger concerns. This state bellied up to fear tactics and not remembering how we got in to such a lousy situation. Take no responsibility and blame others. Then when that does not work jump ships and expect gold streets in 2 years. Baffles me how can anything work unless all work together forget the sides were are all one. Yet im the idiot and unreasonable one and the Dreamer wont you be one too. Do For Other's you Will Feel Better!!! Guaranteed
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I watch europe for news BBC and others anything but our 2 owners deciding what we will hear.Americans look like pure idiots . Step back and take a view. Sad as it may be to do. Do For Other's you Will Feel Better!!! Guaranteed
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It's outrageous to have to put up with all the political b.s bought as advertisements by the media and shoved down our throats. Thank goodness the elections are over & the attack ads stop!I propose that no more political ads be placed on-air and that the money spent on such garbage be spent on charitable causes or paying down the national debt.
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Ted!********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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they're all bastards, both sides, they both use fear, paranoia and outright lies to try and convince the voters. The Murray/Rossi fight here in Washington state has been a prime example. Damned politicians have absolutely NO morals and don't want us to think for ourselves. I'm sick of it..........ok, now may I have a cookie?
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Let's start passing out the cookies. And some cake, cake and chocolate pudding for me, please.
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johnman pass me a cookie.
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the good people of singapore going about there daily shopping when bits of a plane start falling around there ears.Luckily no one was hit and it was just part of one of the planes engines so no probs there then.Plane made an emergency landing and everyone was fine,well with that and terror attacks no flying for this hippy for a while. Have a grate weekend all. Peace.
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Yeah musta been a shock alright for the passengers, as well as the folks on the ground in Singapore, who heard the boom and saw the parts falling. But it seems that Quantas acted responsibly, by grounding all 380's until experts can identify exactly what happened. Perhaps there's a reason why "Quantas never crashed" as Rainman said! ********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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...on the elections? (Sorry to be away friends but some times you have to give it a break).Alan Grayson went down in flames in ther 8th District of Florida. This guys ran a no holds barred political campaign that made a lot of the big-money boys cringe. He shouted out long and hard sabout the war and the economy, the banks -- you name it. Though he unfortunately negged out at the end with some stupid commercials. Speaking of neg. attack ads., They of are now in Vermont where they never used to be. Thank the PACS and the corps.. Elections are such a farce. The government is nothing but the enforcers of the Big Money boys. Think about it. The rich are taking as they like and telling us to shut up. I can only take this shit for so long before I snap. Fuck these vein, ridiculous people. There, see why I have to stay awy? My Blood Pressure just went up 20 points! Seriously though, missing the conversation with you all. ~ Don't lend your hand to raise no flag atop no ship of fools ~
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am dang glad to see you-high BP or not! ********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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But do watch the BPs....both the one starting in "blood" and the other one ending in "petroleum."
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You folks live in a tough country You choose a guy to lead you who is full of bright ideas He inherits a crock of shit, tries hard, but inevitably falls short of delivering the promised land in just 2 years. So what do you do? Cut off one his legs and say ‘There you go buddy. Lets see how you do in the next two years'’ Merciless? Democracy in action? A spineless loss of nerve? A judicious balancing of the ship? Who knows. This I do know. It may be wise not to trust intellectuals, but that does not make being wilfully ignorant any better.
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Turned into instant-gratification junkies here, CB. Get it done now = get it done last week or last month or last year, and long term = get it done yesterday. It's sometimes comical in my job -- testing things. "How quickly can you get it done?" "The test takes 40 hrs." "But how quickly can you get it done?" "40 hrs. takes 40 hrs. I can't change the speed at which time passes." Dissatisfied co-worker walks away thinking that I'm a jerk or incompetent or both. And maybe I AM a jerk and/or incompetent, but 40 hrs is still 40 hrs.
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screw politics, politicians, corporations, and politicians...did I mention corporations or politicians?