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    "We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

    We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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    I liked your consideration of Pete Townsend's performance with The Dead. The comparison between the two bands reminds me a bit of the discussion we had on here a few weeks ago about whether The Dead could be considered a jazz band. I didn't think they could, but I think their approach to playing rock music was "jazz like". And I think this is what confounded Pete Townsend when he played Not Fade Away with them in 1981. Its a simple, rock n 'roll song. But the Dead slowed the tempo and jammed, as was their wont. This obviously worked in spades for them-but they took the song out of the narrow (but great) confines of what normally constitutes the best rock n' roll music. As a great rock guitarist, poor old Pete was left standing at the starting line. I think most other rock guitarists would have been, too. John Cipollina, a bit more surprisingly, also seems a bit lost to me on the New Years Eve 1978 show, when he tries to play along on the same tune. Obviously not as easy as it looked! And as I sit here waffling, the Who Live at Hull has been pushed through my letter box. It could be a bumpy night.
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    Yeah. That is pretty much what I said. But thanks for restating it so emphatically. I'm glad you like the Who.
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    Dick Clark calls it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKT0Kz5VGhw
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    Thanks for The Who at Hull - the remastered full Leeds is a bit pricey for my budget. Think there's 2 or 3 more copies left at amazon after my purchase. Thin - nice snowsport reference but didn't a snowboarder win the Gold in Woman's Skiing Giant Slalom in the recent Olympics? Since I fell behind the Spring 90 anniversary listen this year and I always fall behind in my E72 attempts, I'm attempting a hybrid. I listen to a couple from one or two from one tour and then one or two from the other tour. Been an experience. Aurally the 90's shows are 3 dimmensional with contributions from all. But I do notice a huge difference in the Jerry's role in comparing the two tours. A lot of the pieces that Jerry would drive in the Europe shows are almost parcelled out to Bobby and Brent. Jerry still has the the solos, but the rest of the fill is a group effort. I still love both, but was just something I never took note of before... Loving that Hawaii JGB release and the recent RFK box. Looking forward to the box set announcement, they never cease to amaze me...
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    Thin, very well stated. One thing I want to add, is that the improvised set list versus the static set list is usually a trade off. The advantage for the Who is that they're so well rehearsed from playing the same songs every night, that there are virtually no mistakes, ever. I've seen them 30+ times and I have 50+ live recordings, and they never had an off night. Always tight, never flubbed lyrics. The only exception was technical issues with the synthesizer backing tapes on the '73 Quadrophenia tour. The Dead suffers some fallout from the improv and varied set lists. I don't mind it at all, only illustrating that there's a trade off.
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    Angry Jack: Townshend "outmatched"? No...
    Townsend wasn't outmatched by Garcia. Yes, he looked and sounded like he was trying to fit in but couldn't get in the groove - at all. That doesn't mean he was outmatched - he was just waaaay out of his comfort zone. Towshend's style of playing is to take a 2.5 minute song and pack as many car chases and explosions into it as possible.... windmills, power chords, leg-splitting jumps, with his hair on fire and a kilbasa down his pants. The Who beat the shit out of their instruments while the Dead make love to the music. Not a slam on the Who - they're amazing and in 1970-71 they were THE band that everyone, including the Dead, was chasing.... I see "Skullfu@k" as their "Who" album, recorded in Spring '71. Did Townsend look neutered with the Dead? Totally - because he's not a finesse player, and the Dead are all about a musical conversation.... playing in a circle and feeding off each other. Look at Not Fade Away - perhaps the Dead's most bombastic, power-chord song - If Pete would fit on ANY Dead song it would be that one, right? Nope! For the Dead, even NFA is still a subtle conversation with each other and the audience. \ Pete kept trying to find a spot set off an explosion at Rockpalast, only to realize that his "thing" doesn't work with the Dead - at all. Kinda like the way John Mayer admitted after joining Dead and Co that his usual blues-y thang didn't work and he'd have to adjust and re-approach, which he did masterfully. Jerry would have looked equally out of place, even silly, onstage with the Who. And Who fans would have called him "outmatched" as well. It's like comparing the gold-medal mogul skier to gold-medal Giant Slalom guy.... they're both gonna fail miserably at the other guy's game.
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    Listened to nothing but KISS from age 5 - 10, then heard Baba O'riley at my cousin's house over Christmas break, and we must have listened to it 20 times that week. That plus side 1 of Meaty Beaty Big and Bouncy, and side 1 of The Kids Are Alright movie soundtrack, which has the Smothers Brothers "Roger From Oz" intro to My Generation. I was hooked. Who Are You was the first record I bought that wasn't KISS, followed closely by Meaty Beaty and Who's Next. First saw them 7/9/89, two days after first Dead show 7/7/89. Saw them about a dozen times now, most recently a year or two ago, whenever they were at MSG and Philly for the 50th bash.
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    And as we all know, Who and Zeppelin are better than the Stones and Beatles, but Pink Floyd is the greatest British band ever.But they’re all in the minor leagues when compared to Grateful Dead. My first Who show was July ‘89, a little more than a week after seeing GD at Alpine. Was in row 32 on the floor, and extensively wide-eyed. It was an awesome rock n roll show, with all the greatest hits, even Boris The Spider. Also saw the Quadrophenia tour in ‘96 and the greatest hits tour in 2000, but those didn’t compare to the raw power of the ‘89 show. Love the Isle of Wight DVD, also have the Texas ‘75, Knebworth, and Kids Are Alright DVDs. But yeah, same setlist night after night. And that’s not just The Who, but also Zep, Stones, Floyd. Floyd claimed that the setlists had to be the same to keep the choreography with the video that was being played. But when you play each song the same night after night, well, that just goes to show that you are not in the same league as GD.
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    Well I taught that weeping willow how to cry cry cry,Taught the clouds how to cover up a clear blue sky. https://archive.org/details/gd1987-04-07.140340.sbd.miller.flac2496 The Who is a great stress release.
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    Funny that you mention that show. I was going to post something about that as well. Not sure what the correct word is, but Townsend seemed outmatched. Could be the lack of familiarity with the music, booze, drugs, etc. Who knows. I think he realized that his routine was not going to work in that particular setting so he stepped to the background. From what I have read, he came away with a great deal of respect for the Dead as muscians after that outing. Don't get me wrong. I appreciate The Who musically. Just not my listening preference.
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"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Submitted by bigbrownie on Sat, 02/17/2018 - 11:09

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Thanks Vguy. I just watched an hour of these. Check out Truckin on the subway. I'm going to run these continuously at my next party!
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Submitted by outpost on Sat, 02/17/2018 - 11:13

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Hope you get it soon ..... mine arrived a few days ago.
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Submitted by daverock on Sun, 02/18/2018 - 04:31

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Message received and understood. Its just such an interesting subject.. I like the idea of 8 Dave's picks a year!
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Submitted by stoltzfus on Sun, 02/18/2018 - 07:42

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again, just being silly. I live in Seattle Washington. Seattle "Boom Boom" Washington.
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Submitted by stoltzfus on Sun, 02/18/2018 - 07:48

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give it a listen the end of an era (irony fully realized) next show in October they had Keith in tow. 8/26/71 was the last show by the Quintet o' 71 sound. recent talk of Max Headroom effect: during St. Stephen and some of NFA, my disc has skips that I just have to ride out. seashore washed sea sea seashore washed by the suds and the suds and the suds and the foam etc. oh well.
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Submitted by stoltzfus on Sun, 02/18/2018 - 08:02

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so I wish all of you a glorious day today on 2/18. Bring out ye Port Chesters!!! Bill Graham introduces the GD at a show in late 71 I think, saying in effect, "In the midst of all the madness, a bundle of joy, the Grateful Dead" Words to live by.
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Submitted by frosted on Sun, 02/18/2018 - 09:32

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Does that make that version of St. Stephen your favorite error in the error wars? (Sorry, couldn't help myself).
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Submitted by David Duryea on Sun, 02/18/2018 - 12:31

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https://themidnightcafe.org/2018/02/18/lossless-bootleg-bonanza-gratefu… Grateful Dead May 1, 1970 Alfred State College Alfred, NY Download: FLAC/MP3 This is a tagged version of shnid: 95683 gd70-05-01.sbd.miller.95683.sbeok.flac16 Recording Info: Source 1: SBD -> Master Reel -> CD Source 2: SBD -> Master Reel -> Dat -> Sonic Solutions -> CD Source 3: SBD -> Master Reel -> Reel -> Dat -> Sonic Solutions -> CD Transfer Info: CD -> Adobe Audition v1.5 -> Samplitude Professional v10.1 -> FLAC (2 Discs Audio / 1 Disc FLAC) All Transfers and Mastering By Charlie Miller charliemiller87@earthlink.net November 6, 2008 Notes: — Source 1 provides Deep Elem Blues through Cumberland Blues — Source 2 provides The Race Is On through the middle of Drums — Source 3 provides the middle of Drums though the end of the show — Thanks to David Gans for sources 2 and 3 — Thanks to Joe B. Jones for his help with the pitch correction –Set 1– 101-d1t01 – Deep Elem Blues 102-d1t02 – I Know You Rider 103-d1t03 – Monkey & the Engineer -> 104-d1t04 – Candyman 105-d1t05 – Me & My Uncle * 106-d1t06 – Mama Tried * 107-d1t07 – Cumberland Blues * 108-d1t08 – The Race Is On * 109-d1t09 – Wake Up Little Susie * 110-d1t10 – New Speedway Boogie * 111-d1t11 – Cold Jordan * 112-d1t12 – Uncle John’s Band * –Set 2– 201-d2t01 – Not Fade Away 202-d2t02 – Hard to Handle 203-d2t03 – Cryptical Envelopment -> 204-d2t04 – Drums -> 205-d2t05 – The Other One -> 206-d2t06 – Cryptical Envelopment 207-d2t07 – High Time 208-d2t08 – Turn On Your Lovelight// *w/ David Nelson, Maraduke & possibly other members of NRPS
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Submitted by frankparry on Sun, 02/18/2018 - 14:52

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Yes, arrived a week ago. Hope you get yours soon Gerhard.
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Submitted by Maine Dave on Sun, 02/18/2018 - 15:56

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Hello everyone! I've been reading and enjoying these boards for a couple of years now and thought I should introduce myself and, I don't know, maybe contribute constructively to the vicious squabbles -- err, I mean the lively debates contained herein. Lol. Full disclosure: I am a relatively recent Head. By which I mean, even though I was born in the '60s and I'm currently on the far side of a half-century, and even though I saw the boys twice in the '80s (10/84 in Syracuse -- good show -- and July 4 1987 at Sullivan Stadium outside of Boston -- truly a wretched show, and sharing the stage with Bobby Dylan in his fullest "I don't give a shit" phase didn't help any) and Jerry solo once in Boston in 87 (?) or '88 (?) -- despite all of that, and despite the band being just ubiquitous at the earthy-crunchy college I attended from 1981 t0 84 -- I just never was all that much of a Head. (Whew -- that was some sentence. Congratulations if you made it all the way through.) Tl; dr: I used to like the Dead OK. Now I'm obsessed with them. I wonder why? And I wonder if any others on these boards have experienced the same. To be blunt, I find it kind of astonishing that Garcia (and Hunter) were able to write songs in their 20s and 30s that really only started making sense to me in my 50s... There is just such a sense of perspective, of understanding the long view of life and how we all try to live it as best we can. I'm thinking of "Sugaree," "He's Gone," "Brokedown Palace," Althea," "Bertha," "Ship of Fools," "Terrapin," too many to name really. FWIW, Bobby's songs don't do it for me nearly as much. Sorry if I'm rambling. Hey, I've I've been waiting to talk about this to someone (not my wife, heh heh) for the past 3 years... This is only my 2nd year subscribing to Dave's. I've been able to grab a few on ebay but not many. I have about 2/3 of the Dick's Picks and most everything else released officially, plus the Winterland '73 box and GSTL. I wouldn't mind picking up what I'm missing of course, so feel free to PM me if you have anything you're looking to part with. And now, the important issues and topics that touch us all: 1. Eras. I like everything to some degree or other, but I am fond of Pig, so early stuff is most exciting to me. Two from the Vault is an astonishing release, as is just about anything from that era that features St Stephen/The Eleven/Death Don't Have No Mercy/King Bee/We Bid You Goodnight or any combination thereof. Love Mountains of the Moon too. Pig's raps on Heard to Handle, Lovelight, Good Lovin etc make the band what it is, IMO. The 70s are great too, no argument with 72 or 77 or whatever your fave year is. The 80s were spottier. As I mentioned, both my shows were from the 80s, and one was great. I would love to see that Syracuse show released officially (there's a pretty good soundboard on the archive, and it holds up.) The 1987 show was dire. "Touch of Gray" to start off, downhill after that. I remember standing there in the sun (it was a hot afternoon) and just feeling the energy vanish out of the crowd. Seriously, they never got it back. Even Charlie Miller can't make it sound good, though props to him for trying: https://archive.org/details/gd1987-07-04.sbd.miller.101650.flac16/gd87-… 2. Brent or no Brent... Ahh, I'd have to say no Brent. He was a good backup vocalist when he wasn't overdoing it. And he could be a great keyboard player. But I never liked his songs much ("Gentlemen, Start Your Engines" ? "Hey Pocky Way" ? Seriously? "Tons of Steel" is just flat dull.) And whoever said that he sang like a Bob Seger wannabe was exactly right. That said, there are some good late-era recordings out there that I keep revisiting. DP 17, and Crimson White and Indigo both come to mind. I agree with Spacebrother that we need more variety in the Dave's selections. (Although I must admit too that I haven't bought the RFK box. I just don't have the cash and the songs I've samples aren't compelling enough... Sue me. Don't have the July 78 box yet either, that's next on the list.) Anyway -- I think I have rattled on LONG ENOUGH. Geez, it's taken me an hour to write this... All while listening to RT 4.4, the 1982 Centrum show that someone mentioned recently... Great show. Thanks everybody. I'm off to sign the 6/23/73 RFK petition now.
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Submitted by MinasMorgul on Sun, 02/18/2018 - 16:22

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ANNIVERSARY PORT CHESTER 2/18/71!! Everyone listen before midnight ahhhhhhh!
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Submitted by Kjohnduff1 on Sun, 02/18/2018 - 17:46

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I love to hear everyone’s opinions on each show, so I thought that I would grade the series so far from my perspective. Especially since we’re at the nice round number of 25. Volume 1: The Mosque 5/25/77 – A great start. Not my favorite May ’77 show but May ’77 shows are like pizza. Even when it’s not your favorite, it still is… well, pizza. Grade: A minus Volume 2: Hartford, CT, 7/31/74 – My favorite of the DaP ’74 shows. Maybe because I’m from Connecticut and I’m biased? Maybe… But probably more because of the MLB -> Spanish Jam Grade: A minus Volume 3: Chicago, IL, 10/22/71 – Ragtime Dead. Love this show. Lots of fun sing-along tunes. The filler might just be the best part... Grade: A minus Volume 4: Williamsburg, VA, 9/24/76 – I’m usually a big fan of ’76… the sound is so different from all other years. This is not one of my favorites, though. Hard to explain why. I just don’t reach for it very often. Grade: B minus Volume 5: Pauley Pavilion 11/17/73 – one of my top 3 from the series. Love the HCS then my favorite of the Playin’ Uncle Dew Sammiches. Grade: A plus Volume 6: San Francisco 12/20/69 & St. Louis 2/2/70 – I should listen to this more often. GREAT Casey Jones and two Dark Stars. I usually skip the 35 minute Lovelight. Sshh… don’t tell HendrixFreak! Grade: A minus Volume 7: Normal, 4/24/78 – I like this show better than most based on the reviews that I’ve seen. Bobby’s slide can be brutal at times but he had it goin’ on this night. One of my favorite Scarlet/Fires. Grade: B plus Volume 8: Fox Theatre, 11/30/80 – this show surprised me more than almost any. I’m not usually a 1980 kinda guy and I wasn’t crazy about the idea of a matrix. But I love this show. They were firing on all cylinders on this tour because the 1980 TTAS show is also great. Bring on Gainsville… Grade: B plus Volume 9: Missoula, 5/14/74 – This is probably blasphemous but 1974 isn’t my favorite year. I can’t explain it because it should be right in my wheel house. That being said, There are parts of this that I love. One of my favorite Bertha’s of all time. Grade: B minus Volume 10: Thelma, 12/12/69 – Love how intimate the venue seems. Love the transition from psychedelic to cowboy. If you add in the bonus disk, there’s something here for the whole family. Alligator AND Caution…. Wow. Grade: A Volume 11: Wichita, 11/17/72 – One of my top 3 from the series. My favorite Cumberland of all time and an awesome Bird Song. Every song played to perfection. Grade: A plus Volume 12: Colgate University,11/4/77 – I’m a 1977 junkie. I do however like the spring shows better than the fall shows. This one has merit because its so different. Maybe even slightly strange. The Brown Eyed Women is awesome. Grade: B Volume 13: Winterland, 2/24/74 – Seems to be the favorite DaP for many… I can see why but the sound bothers me more than it probably should. I know that it gets better when it counts but… Grade: B plus Volume 14: Academy Of Music, 3/26/72 – It’s weird that I don’t like this as much as I should. Hardly ever reach for this anymore. Warm up shows before E72 but it sounds starkly different to me than E72. Grade: B Volume 15: Nashville, April 22, 1978 – Great 1978 show – the steel drums and groovy beginning to NFA makes that hair on the back of my neck stand up. Epic Wharf Rat but I like 11/6/77 slightly better. Grade: B plus Volume 16: Springfield, MA, March 28, 1973 – my choice for the most underrated DaP. Jerry is on absolute fire throughout. This show is a monster. Possibly my favorite DaP. Grade: A plus Volume 17: Fresno, CA, July 19, 1974 – not my least favorite DaP but probably second. I don’t reach for this often. Monster Playin’ though. Grade: C Volume 18: Orpheum Theatre, July 17, 1976 – This show seems to be very polarizing. People either love it or hate it. I am definitely on the love side. It has such a unique quality to it… both shows flow so nicely. They’re so laid back but in a great way. Grade: A Volume 19: Honolulu, HI, January 23, 1970 – Another pick that I don’t listen to much anymore. Not my favorite Dark Star and the Lovelight is over the top. Not crazy about the early Dancin’. Too bad about the Casey Jones… great start to it and I love the slinky King Bee… Grade: B Volume 20: Boulder.CO, December 9, 1981 – Far and away my least favorite of the series. Still not sure why it’s a pick. Listened about 3x and retired it. Oh well… Grade: D Volume 21: Boston Garden, April 2, 1973 – Lots of shorter songs all played extremely well, then an epic HCS that melts your face. Grade: B plus Volume 22: Felt Forum, December 7, 1971 – Lots of fun sing-along songs but not a ton here that’ll melt your face… and who doesn’t want their face melted? Grade: B Volume 23: Eugene, OR, January 22, 1978 – This rounds out my top 3. Super high energy, Close Encounters, incredible St. Stephen… top to bottom classic. Grade: A plus Volume 24: Berkeley, CA, August 25, 1972 – LOVE this show. More than I thought I would too. I was bummed that they didn’t release 8/21 but now I’m glad they didn’t. Maybe we’ll get the rest of the run in a box? Grade: A Volume 25: Binghamton, NY, November 6, 1977 – surprised at the average reviews of this show. All-time great 1st set... 3 GOAT songs for me in one show (1/2 step, Truckin’ and Wharf Rat) This one might be suffering from the hype but I’m certainly on board. Grade: A Sorry for the long post but I don’t post a lot so I guess this kind of makes up for it.
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Submitted by Mr.Dc on Sun, 02/18/2018 - 17:47

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I too enjoy the earlier GD "eras" the most, specifically around august 68-june 69 but really 1966 through to the end of 1970. Though there are certain things about pretty much every year that make them worthwhile imo. When it comes to Brent, I do actually enjoy most of his tunes with the exception of 'Never trust a Woman' which may be the only song the Dead played that I do not like at all. I also personally enjoy most of the occasional rants and debates on here, I almost always find something humorous or interesting in them, or even just how they are worded. Sure we got some that are prone to hyperbole, and there have been a couple instances where people have tried to deflect using adhominems and character attacks when they noticed their own arguments shelf life was about up. But in comparison with almost any other site on the web, the disagreements on here are extremely mild and usually over very light topics such as cds and music.
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Submitted by libertycaps97211 on Sun, 02/18/2018 - 18:13

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Volume 8: Fox Theatre, 11/30/80 – this show surprised me more than almost any. I’m not usually a 1980 kinda guy and I wasn’t crazy about the idea of a matrix. But I love this show. They were firing on all cylinders on this tour because the 1980 TTAS show is also great. Grade: B plus One of three in a 3-way tie for "Numero Uno" of the series this far. Don't agree with your grade, but def agree with your sentiment about dat Gators '80 gig. The Dave's series is still w/o a "Shakedown Street" iirc !!!
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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sun, 02/18/2018 - 18:13

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What about it......?
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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sun, 02/18/2018 - 18:14

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I highly suggest you obtain the 78 Box as soon as it’s financially feasible.
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Submitted by stoltzfus on Sun, 02/18/2018 - 19:46

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on 85 GD I have 11/20 21 22 on disc. haven't listened for a while (years) 11/20 today while Ubering. Fun. Worth a listen. Not a E72 show, but fun. started 11/21. oddball songs (Big Boy Pete, e.g.) eras, shmeras. JUST LISTEN. an interesting synchronistic moment: 11/21 Brown Eyed Women. "Bigfoot county" line at a stoplight. Look in my mirror. in the car behind me, the passenger (don't you hear me) had her bare feet up on the dash. I love stuff like that.
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Submitted by Born Cross Eye… on Mon, 02/19/2018 - 02:40

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Does not do too much for me anymore.
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Submitted by daverock on Mon, 02/19/2018 - 02:49

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Interesting that you have got more into the band as you have got older. I have been listening to them in various ways ( and in various states) since 1974. One of the reasons they have endured for me, when so many other bands have bitten the dust, could be the sheer range and scope of the music they played over thirty years. My first two albums were Working Mans, followed by Anthem of the Sun, which were so massively different. There music seems to have a depth and variety to me that other rock bands simply don't have. Or maybe the other rock music I liked was more fitting to a teenage lifestyle. I loved going to heavy rock concerts between 1972 and 1976, and then punk between 1976 and 1978. But as time passed, I went off them. But the Dead have continued to fascinate me.
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Submitted by daverock on Mon, 02/19/2018 - 02:51

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Thanks for the reviews. Fascinating which ones you rate highly and which ones not so. I feel tempted to listen to that 1980 one now, which I don't think I've listened to since it arrived.
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Submitted by Roguedeadguy on Mon, 02/19/2018 - 04:03

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Nice to hear from you. I also share your perspective of growing into the Dead more and more over time. When I was in college (in the 90s) we were all really into Phish. Back then I loved that zany irreverance. Now I think I prefer a little Reverance. So many little nuggets of wisdom in the Dead . . . When life looks Easy Street there is danger at your door Some folks look for answers, others look for fights Got two good eyes, but you still don't see
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Submitted by Kjohnduff1 on Mon, 02/19/2018 - 05:03

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That little exercise inspired me to go back and listen to DaP4 (9/24/76) today.LibertyCalypso has inspired me to spend some time with 11/30/80 this week as well... Did I grade it too low? Maybe... but it’ll be fun going through that show again to see if I did. I also want to revisit the 1/23/70 Hawaii show.
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Submitted by mbarilla on Mon, 02/19/2018 - 09:56

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I would definitely give it an A + listening to some of that Gainesville show over the weekend. Cool show with nice Althea and Sailor Saint Bring on "Shakedown Street" ~ 12.30.78 And 7.5.81 !
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Submitted by New Potato on Mon, 02/19/2018 - 09:58

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Great list! DaP 16 was my first, so it holds a special place for me, it changed everything for me! Good to see it getting some love. Surprised you hold 17 in such low regard, but as you say that Playin' is something else. Very interesting either way, thank you for the read!
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Submitted by Kjohnduff1 on Mon, 02/19/2018 - 11:42

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lol - I knew that people would question my grades...That definitely makes it more fun though. One thing that I'll mention - sometimes the timing of a release has a lot to do with how much I like that show. If I get to spend a lot of time with it, I usually end up liking it more. It also depends on my frame of mind when it comes out, etc... I guarantee that if I graded these shows a year from now, some of my grades would be a little different. Also - B+ is a good grade! I would have killed for those when I was in school a million years ago. The Binghamton show is a funny one - very surprised at the response of that one from many. I wonder if it's the Scarlet/Fire that hurts it. It's not a strong version and Scarlet/Fire is usually a show-stopper.
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Submitted by stoltzfus on Mon, 02/19/2018 - 13:44

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I heard some of 10/28/85 earlier today. solid playing, and reeeeeally good sound quality. again, not on the same plane as E72, obviously, but good stuff, nonetheless. I'm sure plenty of possible DaP's candidates from 85 are in the vault. 85 box? hmm...that is one way. gimme dat Greek box first, though. or at least one show from the Greek.
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Submitted by Erikandjenn on Mon, 02/19/2018 - 15:52

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I don't see the big deal concerning Fergie's rendition. I remember the controversy over Rosanne Barr's performance. I didn't mind that one either. When you hire someone to do a gig you should get what talent you book! Jerry, Bob, and Vince nail it...WITH HAROMANY! https://youtu.be/MH8ObibNCoo Hi Maine Dave! Welcome!
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Submitted by mbarilla on Mon, 02/19/2018 - 16:46

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I usually listen in the car , for a while my car stereo has not been working with the new CDs , so a good amount of the most recent Dave's Picks have been enjoyed in house. I do like listening outdoors as well, most during sunset hours , sunrise is cool too. It's been brutally cold around here , a few weeks ago , the night of the super moon I had a 1988 show going outside. Just as the clouds were parting the moon appeared smack dab in the middle with "When I Paint My Masterpiece" as the soundtrack ~ 6.17.88
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Submitted by alvarhanso on Mon, 02/19/2018 - 21:17

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12/11/69 set 2. Was listening to this today. Wow. This is the best single disc of live Dead I have I believe*. Phil is on fire, and Jerry is fantastic, though a bit shaky in Stephen and The Eleven in a couple of spots, and Tom provides excellent work in Dark Star. This is definitely on the very top of any shelving unit. *I do not have Rockin' the Rhein bonus disc, but my next favorite single disc is Hofheinz 11/18/72 set 2; the something like 2012 bonus from 7/29/74, 2015 bonus 7/16/76 set 2, Dick's Pick 2 10/31/71, etc.
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Submitted by 80sfan on Mon, 02/19/2018 - 22:33

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1979 is definitely under represented but what we have is still pretty sweet. By my count, here are the full shows (I'm not counting the tracks that make up road trips 1.1) 10/27 11/5 11/6 12/26 12/28 Hopefully we'll see 12/1 join the list soon! Another year that could use more love is 1981 (currently 1 dicks pick, 1 daves picks and the 30 trips selection). I'd love to see more- how about 3/9, 3/10, 4/30 or 5/5?
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Submitted by SkullTrip on Tue, 02/20/2018 - 01:10

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The “Brown Eyed Women” from this show always catches me by surprise. T’is a nice one.
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Submitted by Kjohnduff1 on Tue, 02/20/2018 - 03:37

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I went back to listen to the BE Women. I take that song for granted because it’s always consistently great.You’re right though... it has a little extra funk to it. Great version! The whole show is great. Especially the Let It Grow. It’s an absolute scorcher.
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Submitted by daverock on Tue, 02/20/2018 - 04:46

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Definitely 1979. I listened to all the officially released shows at the end of last year, and was really impressed. I loved the energy of the playing, and the way Brent uses the synthesizer in the space jams-something he sadly seemed to back off from doing as he found his feet in the following years. Shame. But the great unrepresented year to me is 1967. The show in 30 Trips was one of the best in the box, but apart from that, I don't think there has been a single show released. There are two fragments from 3rd September 1967-on the Phil Zone there is 30+ minute version of Midnight Hour, and on the version of the first album that came out with bonus tracks about 10 years ago, there is a 23 minute Viola Lee Blues. Even the latest edition of the first album, released last year, passed 1967 by in favour of a 1966 show. Odd. The last few months of 1967 seem to be the time where they developed massively in terms of sound and adventurousness. There is no comparison between the bands playing on the 30 Trips show, and that during 1966 and the first 7-8 months of 1967. With Mickey Hart in tow they evolved from a somewhat tinny sounding, but slightly trippy rootsy/ blues/garage band, into one of the most powerful psychedelic bands in the world. The only reason for the year being passed by, that I can think of, is that they don't have any good soundboard recordings in the vault.
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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Tue, 02/20/2018 - 05:39

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11-5,6-79When those were released I had DSL internet. Also wanted CDs, not downloads. Considering the fiasco of downloading from this site currently, trying to download 10 years ago with DSL would have been an epic disaster.
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Submitted by Thin on Wed, 02/21/2018 - 04:48

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So I'm knee deep in '76 right now, digging a slew of new shows. 1976 is an underrepresented year - too often unfairly compared to 1977. It's the old Ginger vs. Mary-Ann debate - but you can't look at Mary-Ann in the context of Ginger - it misses the point of what makes Mary-Ann great. I see 1976 as defined by what precedes it... an excellent album. '76 is the "Blues for Allah" tour with recently-in-studio precision, sublime jams, recorded meticulously. What's not to love? I have spent the last week focused on the "new" material: H>S>Franklin's (so many in '76!), Crazy Fingers and Music Never stopped, and then exploring the music around them... an interesting way to explore 1976 for Blues for Allah fans. '76 box would be nice. Where's the announcement? Waiting for Olympics to end so announcement doesn't get buried by mixed-Curling updates?
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