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    "We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

    We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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    I read an interview with Jerry talking about how Pete T was telling Jerry how depressed he was with having to play the same show and setlist night after night. Yet Pete did not know how to stop doing that. I guess, obviously, that is what the fans wanted so The Who delivered it over and over. The Who watching The Dead at those joint Day on The Green shows showed them outside the box musical-thinking. How do they do that? And of course The Who always delivered The Power while The Dead delivered The Magic with a few Train Wrecks here and there. What's your pleasure? Hey SimonRob I know Jerry thought that The Doors music sounded too thin and brittle live. He was right, but, I do love their Absolutely Live disc. Were The Doors too 'thin' sounding live for you? Perhaps kind of a 'dinky' sound rather like some here hear 'dinky' 'plinky' keys from Brent here and there? Jerry mentioned that The Doors did not impress initially and Jim seemed like a Mick Jagger clone.Jerry did, however, likeThe Doors ir later stuff. I guess Jerry liked Morrison Hotel and LA Woman with their blues influence. Come to think of it: The song LA Woman has a guitar tone similar sounding to what what Jerry liked and played? No? Or am I tripping? I love The Doors but I think that if I were to have seen them live then what Jerry described regarding their sound being to thin would have been confirmed. And if Uncle JimBo had been too drunk then it may have been a disaster and a waste of time. The Doors seemed to be self-aware of this problem. Jim thought that their music does not work in day light. Likewise, after LA Woman they were going to have Elvis bass player Jerry Sheff join them on tour but without dropping Manzarek's bass-line keys which was a very unique part of their sound. I do not know if they were also going to add a second rhythm guitarist but that would have fattened their sound considerably. The what ifs of music history! Just one more thing: The Who's Sparks song sequence and playing was 'just exactly perfect.' Love it!
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    I read an interview with Jerry talking about how Pete T was telling Jerry how depressed he was with having to play the same show and setlist night after night. Yet Pete did not know how to stop doing that. I guess, obviously, that is what the fans wanted so The Who delivered it over and over. The Who watching The Dead at those joint Day on The Green shows showed them outside the box musical-thinking. How do they do that? And of course The Who always delivered The Power while The Dead delivered The Magic with a few Train Wrecks here and there. What's your pleasure? Hey SimonRob I know Jerry thought that The Doors music sounded too thin and brittle live. He was right, but, I do love their Absolutely Live disc. Were The Doors too 'thin' sounding live for you? Perhaps kind of a 'dinky' sound rather like some here hear 'dinky' 'plinky' keys from Brent here and there? Jerry mentioned that The Doors did not impress initially and Jim seemed like a Mick Jagger clone.Jerry did, however, likeThe Doors ir later stuff. I guess Jerry liked Morrison Hotel and LA Woman with their blues influence. Come to think of it: The song LA Woman has a guitar tone similar sounding to what what Jerry liked and played? No? Or am I tripping? I love The Doors but I think that if I were to have seen them live then what Jerry described regarding their sound being to thin would have been confirmed. And if Uncle JimBo had been too drunk then it may have been a disaster and a waste of time. The Doors seemed to be self-aware of this problem. Jim thought that their music does not work in day light. Likewise, after LA Woman they were going to have Elvis bass player Jerry Sheff join them on tour but without dropping Manzarek's bass-line keys which was a very unique part of their sound. I do not know if they were also going to add a second rhythm guitarist but that would have fattened their sound considerably. The what ifs of music history! Just one more thing: The Who's Sparks song sequence and playing was 'just exactly perfect.' Love it!
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    While I haven't listened to very many live shows from the who, I personally have found the few I have to be quite jarring and sloppy sounding. Surprising for a band that played the same songs the same way all the time, right down to the smashing of their instruments every night. They were a great studio band, and probably cool to see in person, but their live recordings are in my opinion, for the die hard fans or those that are looking for a rawer, punk, lofi sound to their favorite who songs which at times can get old from being overplayed on the radio. The Doors live is hit or miss for me, there are definitely shows worth checking out for their performances, setlists, and I have found some great sounding recordings of them. The Isle of Wight recording is one that up until very recently I had always seen at the top of the lists for worst/laziest Doors show, funny how its now being marketed as the last great performance and being hyped up. I actually find the Doors at the Isle of Wight to be a chill show, that while not very memorable is certainly not even close to the worst Doors recording available. Enjoyed that Beefheart video, the Captain was definitely worth seeing live and though the recordings of him are usually very poor sounding, there are more than a few shows out there worth one's time. Also mentioned where the Almond bros and LedZep, both are bands with great live recordings available that are as good or better than their studio work in my opinion.
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    Yo, rockers!!!! First & foremost, I have not fallen and hit my head. Second, way big thanks to Frank Streeter, Tim Dalton, Charlie Miller, Scott Clugston, and everybody else who has made this possible. Yes, Frank Streeter's excellent tapes from the Summer of 1982 have finally started to circulate widely. Released so far: 7/27/82 7/31/82 8/1/82 8/4/82 (my favorite) 8/8/82 8/10/82 Used to listen to these quite a bit back in the day. Whether you like the 80s or not, these sure sound good!! Time to share. You know where to find me............ Rock on, Doc P.S. You forgot 4/8/71 P.P.S. Excellent copy of 10/10/82 is out as well.......... P.P.P.S. The Who, Boston Garden 4/1/76, 20 rows back, dead center, best rock n roll show I ever saw...............
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    2-14-70. Always amazed that Leeds show happened the same day as one of my favorite Dead shows. A time machine could get me to one, but which one? Would have to be Fillmore, but a part of me would always be wondering if I made the right choice. But then I remember the time difference between continents and I imagine I could close out the Leeds show, jump on the Concord to cross the Atlantic and parachute into New York in time for the Cold Rain opener at the Fillmore. (Perhaps inspired by Phil Collins traveling across the pond during Live Aid to drum for Zep??? Never mind the quality of said performance.) Anyway, I think I could make it work. And my mind is somehow eased by not having to make that choice.
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    Happy 4/8 indeed. 4/8 1971 and 4/8 1972 are two of my favorite shows so will certainly be doing some listening today. I'm in NJ so feeling the pain of an extended winter as well. Been a long cold lonely winter in more ways than one. Thank god for the dead who have been keeping me in good spirits since I was 13. No idea what my life would have been like without them.
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    Yea sometimes it snows but it's just been cold not even a mild day anywhere and they just said below normal temp's for and other week after a brief warm up I take a couple days of above normal temp's before it drops again. It's been a long cold lonely winter. haha p.s. It's been warmer in Alaska than in the northeast. Darn global warming.
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    Sometimes it snows in April O(+>
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    Hi all, interesting discussion about other bands. Once I got into downloading Dead shows, I eventually found my way into sites that had a treasure trove of bootlegs from everybody. I got some great shows, everything from Floyd to Zappa, even Lou Reed and Derek and The Dominos. I am sure a lot of you are way ahead of me on this. Now I can say I am not well versed in all of these bands live shows, but looking at the British band being mentioned - Floyd Stones, Who, Beatles, and Zeppelin, I think Zeppelin had some jam-improved shows. Now it is true their set lists were almost identical, but Zep seemed to have their own jam launching songs. Dazed and Confused, Whole Lotta Love, Moby Dick (drums) are few. IN later years, No Quarter was a jam vehicle for them. Again this is what I came across, but I may not be so accurate. I believe we have few resident Zeppelin fans who can shed light on this. However I feel like I listened to a lot of these bands live shows, and even when I include the Allmans and Phish, The Grateful Dead are the apex for me. To quote Booby they are "just exactly perfect". You know variety is the spice of life though.
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    Lotta poor man make a five dollar bill, Keep him happy all the time...Dark Star -> Sugar Magnolia -> Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) April 8, 1972, Wembley Empire Pool, London Long distance runner, what you standin' there for... https://archive.org/details/gd1978-04-08.140922.sbd.miller.sirmick.flac… Baby's back all dressed in black. Silver buttons all down her back... https://archive.org/details/gd1985-04-08.sbd.miller.118375.flac16 Put your gold money where your love is baby... https://archive.org/details/gd1989-04-08.sbd.walker-scotton.miller.8351… Wake up to find out... https://archive.org/details/gd1991-04-08.137103.sbd.miller.flac16
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"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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Submitted by bigbrownie on Sat, 02/17/2018 - 11:09

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Thanks Vguy. I just watched an hour of these. Check out Truckin on the subway. I'm going to run these continuously at my next party!
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Submitted by outpost on Sat, 02/17/2018 - 11:13

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Hope you get it soon ..... mine arrived a few days ago.
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Submitted by daverock on Sun, 02/18/2018 - 04:31

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Message received and understood. Its just such an interesting subject.. I like the idea of 8 Dave's picks a year!
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Submitted by stoltzfus on Sun, 02/18/2018 - 07:42

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again, just being silly. I live in Seattle Washington. Seattle "Boom Boom" Washington.
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Submitted by stoltzfus on Sun, 02/18/2018 - 07:48

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give it a listen the end of an era (irony fully realized) next show in October they had Keith in tow. 8/26/71 was the last show by the Quintet o' 71 sound. recent talk of Max Headroom effect: during St. Stephen and some of NFA, my disc has skips that I just have to ride out. seashore washed sea sea seashore washed by the suds and the suds and the suds and the foam etc. oh well.
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Submitted by stoltzfus on Sun, 02/18/2018 - 08:02

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so I wish all of you a glorious day today on 2/18. Bring out ye Port Chesters!!! Bill Graham introduces the GD at a show in late 71 I think, saying in effect, "In the midst of all the madness, a bundle of joy, the Grateful Dead" Words to live by.
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Submitted by frosted on Sun, 02/18/2018 - 09:32

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Does that make that version of St. Stephen your favorite error in the error wars? (Sorry, couldn't help myself).
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Submitted by David Duryea on Sun, 02/18/2018 - 12:31

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https://themidnightcafe.org/2018/02/18/lossless-bootleg-bonanza-gratefu… Grateful Dead May 1, 1970 Alfred State College Alfred, NY Download: FLAC/MP3 This is a tagged version of shnid: 95683 gd70-05-01.sbd.miller.95683.sbeok.flac16 Recording Info: Source 1: SBD -> Master Reel -> CD Source 2: SBD -> Master Reel -> Dat -> Sonic Solutions -> CD Source 3: SBD -> Master Reel -> Reel -> Dat -> Sonic Solutions -> CD Transfer Info: CD -> Adobe Audition v1.5 -> Samplitude Professional v10.1 -> FLAC (2 Discs Audio / 1 Disc FLAC) All Transfers and Mastering By Charlie Miller charliemiller87@earthlink.net November 6, 2008 Notes: — Source 1 provides Deep Elem Blues through Cumberland Blues — Source 2 provides The Race Is On through the middle of Drums — Source 3 provides the middle of Drums though the end of the show — Thanks to David Gans for sources 2 and 3 — Thanks to Joe B. Jones for his help with the pitch correction –Set 1– 101-d1t01 – Deep Elem Blues 102-d1t02 – I Know You Rider 103-d1t03 – Monkey & the Engineer -> 104-d1t04 – Candyman 105-d1t05 – Me & My Uncle * 106-d1t06 – Mama Tried * 107-d1t07 – Cumberland Blues * 108-d1t08 – The Race Is On * 109-d1t09 – Wake Up Little Susie * 110-d1t10 – New Speedway Boogie * 111-d1t11 – Cold Jordan * 112-d1t12 – Uncle John’s Band * –Set 2– 201-d2t01 – Not Fade Away 202-d2t02 – Hard to Handle 203-d2t03 – Cryptical Envelopment -> 204-d2t04 – Drums -> 205-d2t05 – The Other One -> 206-d2t06 – Cryptical Envelopment 207-d2t07 – High Time 208-d2t08 – Turn On Your Lovelight// *w/ David Nelson, Maraduke & possibly other members of NRPS
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Submitted by frankparry on Sun, 02/18/2018 - 14:52

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Yes, arrived a week ago. Hope you get yours soon Gerhard.
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Submitted by Maine Dave on Sun, 02/18/2018 - 15:56

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Hello everyone! I've been reading and enjoying these boards for a couple of years now and thought I should introduce myself and, I don't know, maybe contribute constructively to the vicious squabbles -- err, I mean the lively debates contained herein. Lol. Full disclosure: I am a relatively recent Head. By which I mean, even though I was born in the '60s and I'm currently on the far side of a half-century, and even though I saw the boys twice in the '80s (10/84 in Syracuse -- good show -- and July 4 1987 at Sullivan Stadium outside of Boston -- truly a wretched show, and sharing the stage with Bobby Dylan in his fullest "I don't give a shit" phase didn't help any) and Jerry solo once in Boston in 87 (?) or '88 (?) -- despite all of that, and despite the band being just ubiquitous at the earthy-crunchy college I attended from 1981 t0 84 -- I just never was all that much of a Head. (Whew -- that was some sentence. Congratulations if you made it all the way through.) Tl; dr: I used to like the Dead OK. Now I'm obsessed with them. I wonder why? And I wonder if any others on these boards have experienced the same. To be blunt, I find it kind of astonishing that Garcia (and Hunter) were able to write songs in their 20s and 30s that really only started making sense to me in my 50s... There is just such a sense of perspective, of understanding the long view of life and how we all try to live it as best we can. I'm thinking of "Sugaree," "He's Gone," "Brokedown Palace," Althea," "Bertha," "Ship of Fools," "Terrapin," too many to name really. FWIW, Bobby's songs don't do it for me nearly as much. Sorry if I'm rambling. Hey, I've I've been waiting to talk about this to someone (not my wife, heh heh) for the past 3 years... This is only my 2nd year subscribing to Dave's. I've been able to grab a few on ebay but not many. I have about 2/3 of the Dick's Picks and most everything else released officially, plus the Winterland '73 box and GSTL. I wouldn't mind picking up what I'm missing of course, so feel free to PM me if you have anything you're looking to part with. And now, the important issues and topics that touch us all: 1. Eras. I like everything to some degree or other, but I am fond of Pig, so early stuff is most exciting to me. Two from the Vault is an astonishing release, as is just about anything from that era that features St Stephen/The Eleven/Death Don't Have No Mercy/King Bee/We Bid You Goodnight or any combination thereof. Love Mountains of the Moon too. Pig's raps on Heard to Handle, Lovelight, Good Lovin etc make the band what it is, IMO. The 70s are great too, no argument with 72 or 77 or whatever your fave year is. The 80s were spottier. As I mentioned, both my shows were from the 80s, and one was great. I would love to see that Syracuse show released officially (there's a pretty good soundboard on the archive, and it holds up.) The 1987 show was dire. "Touch of Gray" to start off, downhill after that. I remember standing there in the sun (it was a hot afternoon) and just feeling the energy vanish out of the crowd. Seriously, they never got it back. Even Charlie Miller can't make it sound good, though props to him for trying: https://archive.org/details/gd1987-07-04.sbd.miller.101650.flac16/gd87-… 2. Brent or no Brent... Ahh, I'd have to say no Brent. He was a good backup vocalist when he wasn't overdoing it. And he could be a great keyboard player. But I never liked his songs much ("Gentlemen, Start Your Engines" ? "Hey Pocky Way" ? Seriously? "Tons of Steel" is just flat dull.) And whoever said that he sang like a Bob Seger wannabe was exactly right. That said, there are some good late-era recordings out there that I keep revisiting. DP 17, and Crimson White and Indigo both come to mind. I agree with Spacebrother that we need more variety in the Dave's selections. (Although I must admit too that I haven't bought the RFK box. I just don't have the cash and the songs I've samples aren't compelling enough... Sue me. Don't have the July 78 box yet either, that's next on the list.) Anyway -- I think I have rattled on LONG ENOUGH. Geez, it's taken me an hour to write this... All while listening to RT 4.4, the 1982 Centrum show that someone mentioned recently... Great show. Thanks everybody. I'm off to sign the 6/23/73 RFK petition now.
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ANNIVERSARY PORT CHESTER 2/18/71!! Everyone listen before midnight ahhhhhhh!
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I love to hear everyone’s opinions on each show, so I thought that I would grade the series so far from my perspective. Especially since we’re at the nice round number of 25. Volume 1: The Mosque 5/25/77 – A great start. Not my favorite May ’77 show but May ’77 shows are like pizza. Even when it’s not your favorite, it still is… well, pizza. Grade: A minus Volume 2: Hartford, CT, 7/31/74 – My favorite of the DaP ’74 shows. Maybe because I’m from Connecticut and I’m biased? Maybe… But probably more because of the MLB -> Spanish Jam Grade: A minus Volume 3: Chicago, IL, 10/22/71 – Ragtime Dead. Love this show. Lots of fun sing-along tunes. The filler might just be the best part... Grade: A minus Volume 4: Williamsburg, VA, 9/24/76 – I’m usually a big fan of ’76… the sound is so different from all other years. This is not one of my favorites, though. Hard to explain why. I just don’t reach for it very often. Grade: B minus Volume 5: Pauley Pavilion 11/17/73 – one of my top 3 from the series. Love the HCS then my favorite of the Playin’ Uncle Dew Sammiches. Grade: A plus Volume 6: San Francisco 12/20/69 & St. Louis 2/2/70 – I should listen to this more often. GREAT Casey Jones and two Dark Stars. I usually skip the 35 minute Lovelight. Sshh… don’t tell HendrixFreak! Grade: A minus Volume 7: Normal, 4/24/78 – I like this show better than most based on the reviews that I’ve seen. Bobby’s slide can be brutal at times but he had it goin’ on this night. One of my favorite Scarlet/Fires. Grade: B plus Volume 8: Fox Theatre, 11/30/80 – this show surprised me more than almost any. I’m not usually a 1980 kinda guy and I wasn’t crazy about the idea of a matrix. But I love this show. They were firing on all cylinders on this tour because the 1980 TTAS show is also great. Bring on Gainsville… Grade: B plus Volume 9: Missoula, 5/14/74 – This is probably blasphemous but 1974 isn’t my favorite year. I can’t explain it because it should be right in my wheel house. That being said, There are parts of this that I love. One of my favorite Bertha’s of all time. Grade: B minus Volume 10: Thelma, 12/12/69 – Love how intimate the venue seems. Love the transition from psychedelic to cowboy. If you add in the bonus disk, there’s something here for the whole family. Alligator AND Caution…. Wow. Grade: A Volume 11: Wichita, 11/17/72 – One of my top 3 from the series. My favorite Cumberland of all time and an awesome Bird Song. Every song played to perfection. Grade: A plus Volume 12: Colgate University,11/4/77 – I’m a 1977 junkie. I do however like the spring shows better than the fall shows. This one has merit because its so different. Maybe even slightly strange. The Brown Eyed Women is awesome. Grade: B Volume 13: Winterland, 2/24/74 – Seems to be the favorite DaP for many… I can see why but the sound bothers me more than it probably should. I know that it gets better when it counts but… Grade: B plus Volume 14: Academy Of Music, 3/26/72 – It’s weird that I don’t like this as much as I should. Hardly ever reach for this anymore. Warm up shows before E72 but it sounds starkly different to me than E72. Grade: B Volume 15: Nashville, April 22, 1978 – Great 1978 show – the steel drums and groovy beginning to NFA makes that hair on the back of my neck stand up. Epic Wharf Rat but I like 11/6/77 slightly better. Grade: B plus Volume 16: Springfield, MA, March 28, 1973 – my choice for the most underrated DaP. Jerry is on absolute fire throughout. This show is a monster. Possibly my favorite DaP. Grade: A plus Volume 17: Fresno, CA, July 19, 1974 – not my least favorite DaP but probably second. I don’t reach for this often. Monster Playin’ though. Grade: C Volume 18: Orpheum Theatre, July 17, 1976 – This show seems to be very polarizing. People either love it or hate it. I am definitely on the love side. It has such a unique quality to it… both shows flow so nicely. They’re so laid back but in a great way. Grade: A Volume 19: Honolulu, HI, January 23, 1970 – Another pick that I don’t listen to much anymore. Not my favorite Dark Star and the Lovelight is over the top. Not crazy about the early Dancin’. Too bad about the Casey Jones… great start to it and I love the slinky King Bee… Grade: B Volume 20: Boulder.CO, December 9, 1981 – Far and away my least favorite of the series. Still not sure why it’s a pick. Listened about 3x and retired it. Oh well… Grade: D Volume 21: Boston Garden, April 2, 1973 – Lots of shorter songs all played extremely well, then an epic HCS that melts your face. Grade: B plus Volume 22: Felt Forum, December 7, 1971 – Lots of fun sing-along songs but not a ton here that’ll melt your face… and who doesn’t want their face melted? Grade: B Volume 23: Eugene, OR, January 22, 1978 – This rounds out my top 3. Super high energy, Close Encounters, incredible St. Stephen… top to bottom classic. Grade: A plus Volume 24: Berkeley, CA, August 25, 1972 – LOVE this show. More than I thought I would too. I was bummed that they didn’t release 8/21 but now I’m glad they didn’t. Maybe we’ll get the rest of the run in a box? Grade: A Volume 25: Binghamton, NY, November 6, 1977 – surprised at the average reviews of this show. All-time great 1st set... 3 GOAT songs for me in one show (1/2 step, Truckin’ and Wharf Rat) This one might be suffering from the hype but I’m certainly on board. Grade: A Sorry for the long post but I don’t post a lot so I guess this kind of makes up for it.
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Submitted by Mr.Dc on Sun, 02/18/2018 - 17:47

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I too enjoy the earlier GD "eras" the most, specifically around august 68-june 69 but really 1966 through to the end of 1970. Though there are certain things about pretty much every year that make them worthwhile imo. When it comes to Brent, I do actually enjoy most of his tunes with the exception of 'Never trust a Woman' which may be the only song the Dead played that I do not like at all. I also personally enjoy most of the occasional rants and debates on here, I almost always find something humorous or interesting in them, or even just how they are worded. Sure we got some that are prone to hyperbole, and there have been a couple instances where people have tried to deflect using adhominems and character attacks when they noticed their own arguments shelf life was about up. But in comparison with almost any other site on the web, the disagreements on here are extremely mild and usually over very light topics such as cds and music.
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Submitted by libertycaps97211 on Sun, 02/18/2018 - 18:13

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Volume 8: Fox Theatre, 11/30/80 – this show surprised me more than almost any. I’m not usually a 1980 kinda guy and I wasn’t crazy about the idea of a matrix. But I love this show. They were firing on all cylinders on this tour because the 1980 TTAS show is also great. Grade: B plus One of three in a 3-way tie for "Numero Uno" of the series this far. Don't agree with your grade, but def agree with your sentiment about dat Gators '80 gig. The Dave's series is still w/o a "Shakedown Street" iirc !!!
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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sun, 02/18/2018 - 18:13

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What about it......?
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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sun, 02/18/2018 - 18:14

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I highly suggest you obtain the 78 Box as soon as it’s financially feasible.
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Submitted by stoltzfus on Sun, 02/18/2018 - 19:46

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on 85 GD I have 11/20 21 22 on disc. haven't listened for a while (years) 11/20 today while Ubering. Fun. Worth a listen. Not a E72 show, but fun. started 11/21. oddball songs (Big Boy Pete, e.g.) eras, shmeras. JUST LISTEN. an interesting synchronistic moment: 11/21 Brown Eyed Women. "Bigfoot county" line at a stoplight. Look in my mirror. in the car behind me, the passenger (don't you hear me) had her bare feet up on the dash. I love stuff like that.
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Submitted by Born Cross Eye… on Mon, 02/19/2018 - 02:40

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Does not do too much for me anymore.
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Submitted by daverock on Mon, 02/19/2018 - 02:49

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Interesting that you have got more into the band as you have got older. I have been listening to them in various ways ( and in various states) since 1974. One of the reasons they have endured for me, when so many other bands have bitten the dust, could be the sheer range and scope of the music they played over thirty years. My first two albums were Working Mans, followed by Anthem of the Sun, which were so massively different. There music seems to have a depth and variety to me that other rock bands simply don't have. Or maybe the other rock music I liked was more fitting to a teenage lifestyle. I loved going to heavy rock concerts between 1972 and 1976, and then punk between 1976 and 1978. But as time passed, I went off them. But the Dead have continued to fascinate me.
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Submitted by daverock on Mon, 02/19/2018 - 02:51

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Thanks for the reviews. Fascinating which ones you rate highly and which ones not so. I feel tempted to listen to that 1980 one now, which I don't think I've listened to since it arrived.
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Submitted by Roguedeadguy on Mon, 02/19/2018 - 04:03

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Nice to hear from you. I also share your perspective of growing into the Dead more and more over time. When I was in college (in the 90s) we were all really into Phish. Back then I loved that zany irreverance. Now I think I prefer a little Reverance. So many little nuggets of wisdom in the Dead . . . When life looks Easy Street there is danger at your door Some folks look for answers, others look for fights Got two good eyes, but you still don't see
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Submitted by Kjohnduff1 on Mon, 02/19/2018 - 05:03

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That little exercise inspired me to go back and listen to DaP4 (9/24/76) today.LibertyCalypso has inspired me to spend some time with 11/30/80 this week as well... Did I grade it too low? Maybe... but it’ll be fun going through that show again to see if I did. I also want to revisit the 1/23/70 Hawaii show.
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Submitted by mbarilla on Mon, 02/19/2018 - 09:56

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I would definitely give it an A + listening to some of that Gainesville show over the weekend. Cool show with nice Althea and Sailor Saint Bring on "Shakedown Street" ~ 12.30.78 And 7.5.81 !
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Submitted by New Potato on Mon, 02/19/2018 - 09:58

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Great list! DaP 16 was my first, so it holds a special place for me, it changed everything for me! Good to see it getting some love. Surprised you hold 17 in such low regard, but as you say that Playin' is something else. Very interesting either way, thank you for the read!
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Submitted by Kjohnduff1 on Mon, 02/19/2018 - 11:42

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lol - I knew that people would question my grades...That definitely makes it more fun though. One thing that I'll mention - sometimes the timing of a release has a lot to do with how much I like that show. If I get to spend a lot of time with it, I usually end up liking it more. It also depends on my frame of mind when it comes out, etc... I guarantee that if I graded these shows a year from now, some of my grades would be a little different. Also - B+ is a good grade! I would have killed for those when I was in school a million years ago. The Binghamton show is a funny one - very surprised at the response of that one from many. I wonder if it's the Scarlet/Fire that hurts it. It's not a strong version and Scarlet/Fire is usually a show-stopper.
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Submitted by stoltzfus on Mon, 02/19/2018 - 13:44

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I heard some of 10/28/85 earlier today. solid playing, and reeeeeally good sound quality. again, not on the same plane as E72, obviously, but good stuff, nonetheless. I'm sure plenty of possible DaP's candidates from 85 are in the vault. 85 box? hmm...that is one way. gimme dat Greek box first, though. or at least one show from the Greek.
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Submitted by Erikandjenn on Mon, 02/19/2018 - 15:52

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I don't see the big deal concerning Fergie's rendition. I remember the controversy over Rosanne Barr's performance. I didn't mind that one either. When you hire someone to do a gig you should get what talent you book! Jerry, Bob, and Vince nail it...WITH HAROMANY! https://youtu.be/MH8ObibNCoo Hi Maine Dave! Welcome!
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Submitted by mbarilla on Mon, 02/19/2018 - 16:46

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I usually listen in the car , for a while my car stereo has not been working with the new CDs , so a good amount of the most recent Dave's Picks have been enjoyed in house. I do like listening outdoors as well, most during sunset hours , sunrise is cool too. It's been brutally cold around here , a few weeks ago , the night of the super moon I had a 1988 show going outside. Just as the clouds were parting the moon appeared smack dab in the middle with "When I Paint My Masterpiece" as the soundtrack ~ 6.17.88
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Submitted by alvarhanso on Mon, 02/19/2018 - 21:17

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12/11/69 set 2. Was listening to this today. Wow. This is the best single disc of live Dead I have I believe*. Phil is on fire, and Jerry is fantastic, though a bit shaky in Stephen and The Eleven in a couple of spots, and Tom provides excellent work in Dark Star. This is definitely on the very top of any shelving unit. *I do not have Rockin' the Rhein bonus disc, but my next favorite single disc is Hofheinz 11/18/72 set 2; the something like 2012 bonus from 7/29/74, 2015 bonus 7/16/76 set 2, Dick's Pick 2 10/31/71, etc.
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Submitted by 80sfan on Mon, 02/19/2018 - 22:33

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1979 is definitely under represented but what we have is still pretty sweet. By my count, here are the full shows (I'm not counting the tracks that make up road trips 1.1) 10/27 11/5 11/6 12/26 12/28 Hopefully we'll see 12/1 join the list soon! Another year that could use more love is 1981 (currently 1 dicks pick, 1 daves picks and the 30 trips selection). I'd love to see more- how about 3/9, 3/10, 4/30 or 5/5?
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Submitted by SkullTrip on Tue, 02/20/2018 - 01:10

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The “Brown Eyed Women” from this show always catches me by surprise. T’is a nice one.
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Submitted by Kjohnduff1 on Tue, 02/20/2018 - 03:37

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I went back to listen to the BE Women. I take that song for granted because it’s always consistently great.You’re right though... it has a little extra funk to it. Great version! The whole show is great. Especially the Let It Grow. It’s an absolute scorcher.
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Submitted by daverock on Tue, 02/20/2018 - 04:46

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Definitely 1979. I listened to all the officially released shows at the end of last year, and was really impressed. I loved the energy of the playing, and the way Brent uses the synthesizer in the space jams-something he sadly seemed to back off from doing as he found his feet in the following years. Shame. But the great unrepresented year to me is 1967. The show in 30 Trips was one of the best in the box, but apart from that, I don't think there has been a single show released. There are two fragments from 3rd September 1967-on the Phil Zone there is 30+ minute version of Midnight Hour, and on the version of the first album that came out with bonus tracks about 10 years ago, there is a 23 minute Viola Lee Blues. Even the latest edition of the first album, released last year, passed 1967 by in favour of a 1966 show. Odd. The last few months of 1967 seem to be the time where they developed massively in terms of sound and adventurousness. There is no comparison between the bands playing on the 30 Trips show, and that during 1966 and the first 7-8 months of 1967. With Mickey Hart in tow they evolved from a somewhat tinny sounding, but slightly trippy rootsy/ blues/garage band, into one of the most powerful psychedelic bands in the world. The only reason for the year being passed by, that I can think of, is that they don't have any good soundboard recordings in the vault.
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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Tue, 02/20/2018 - 05:39

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11-5,6-79When those were released I had DSL internet. Also wanted CDs, not downloads. Considering the fiasco of downloading from this site currently, trying to download 10 years ago with DSL would have been an epic disaster.
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Submitted by Thin on Wed, 02/21/2018 - 04:48

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So I'm knee deep in '76 right now, digging a slew of new shows. 1976 is an underrepresented year - too often unfairly compared to 1977. It's the old Ginger vs. Mary-Ann debate - but you can't look at Mary-Ann in the context of Ginger - it misses the point of what makes Mary-Ann great. I see 1976 as defined by what precedes it... an excellent album. '76 is the "Blues for Allah" tour with recently-in-studio precision, sublime jams, recorded meticulously. What's not to love? I have spent the last week focused on the "new" material: H>S>Franklin's (so many in '76!), Crazy Fingers and Music Never stopped, and then exploring the music around them... an interesting way to explore 1976 for Blues for Allah fans. '76 box would be nice. Where's the announcement? Waiting for Olympics to end so announcement doesn't get buried by mixed-Curling updates?
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