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    When our previous topic hit the 1,000-response mark, sleazy behavior by politicians was eliciting a certain amount of non-astonishment.

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    Police state increasingly obvious in US
    The ACLU is successfully dragging several police departments into court over what they say are unconstitutional arrests for recording police conversations and behavior. DAs say that because police have sensitive conversations with witnesses, etc., they can't be recorded. They make the distinction that the recording is not illegal, just the publication of it. What bullshit! Cops don't want their illegal behavior to ruin their careers. Not all cops, just the ones that are doing illegal things. This has to change but I'm not holding my breath for the Supremes to make the right decision.
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    wait, wait, infear
    if this is it http://cgi.ebay.com/DEAD-Summer-Getaway-2003-85cd-Box-Set-Lim-Ed-/25068… it's legit. Munck was the licensee for that tour. and now, back to bedbugs and addiction...
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    Ok....lemme get this straight...
    is the Govt willing to pay for the treatment?...and why would someone be foolish enough to turn down free treatment?..or would they rather live with an unhealthy addiction? If they have the money to spend on alcohol and drugs why not spend it on something more sensible.....like....oh....food and shelter, for instance? Aren't the benefits being given for that purpose? If I'm outa line here, please let me know......
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    never heard of it either
    I think it's safe to assume it's a bootleg. What's the auction link? I don't actually remember if they sold the live recordings at the 2003 shows or not, but I never heard of this. If someone else knows please speak up!
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    I'm l;ooking at an Ebay Item, it's a box set with 85cds in it, says it's the whole 2003 Summer Tour is this legit??? Says only 500 were made? Never heard of this any help would be appreciated-
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    yeah, it is not just a fleabag hotel issue these days
    a little googling will really scare you! Of course I haven't stayed in a hotel for ages, but yeah, kinda does creep you out! There are all these clips on the TV news about washing all your clothes in hot water when you get home from a trip. It seems to be a pretty big problem even on the pricier side of the travel world. And yes, in the US.
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    We owe the troop an exit
    By BOB HERBERTPublished: August 30, 2010 NY Times We learned on Saturday that our so-called partner in this forlorn war, Hamid Karzai, fired a top prosecutor who had insisted on, gasp, fighting the corruption that runs like a crippling disease through his country. Time magazine tells us that stressed-out, depressed and despondent soldiers are seeking help for their mental difficulties at a rate that is overwhelming the capacity of available professionals. What we are doing to these troops who have been serving tour after tour in Afghanistan and Iraq is unconscionable. Time described the mental-health issue as “the U.S. Army’s third front,” with the reporter, Mark Thompson, writing: “While its combat troops fight two wars, its mental-health professionals are waging a battle to save soldiers’ sanity when they come back, one that will cost billions long after combat ends in Baghdad and Kabul.” In addition to the terrible physical toll, the ultimate economic costs of these two wars, as the Nobel laureate Joseph Stiglitz and his colleague Linda Bilmes have pointed out, will run to more than $3 trillion. I get a headache when I hear supporters of this endless warfare complaining about the federal budget deficits. They’re like arsonists complaining about the smell of smoke in the neighborhood. There is no silver lining to this nearly decade-old war in Afghanistan. Poll after poll has shown that it no longer has the support of most Americans. And yet we fight on, feeding troops into the meat-grinder year after tragic year — to what end? “Clearly, the final chapters of this particular endeavor are very much yet to be written,” said Gen. David Petraeus, the commander of American and NATO forces in Afghanistan, during a BBC interview over the weekend. He sounded as if those chapters would not be written any time soon. In a reference to President Obama’s assertion that U.S. troops would begin to withdraw from Afghanistan next July, General Petraeus told the interviewer: “That’s a date when a process begins, nothing more, nothing less. It’s not the date when the American forces begin an exodus and look for the exit and the light to turn off on the way out of the room.” A lot of Americans who had listened to the president thought it was, in fact, a date when the American forces would begin an exodus. The general seems to have heard something quite different. In truth, it’s not at all clear how President Obama really feels about the awesome responsibilities involved in waging war, and that’s a problem. The Times’s Peter Baker wrote a compelling and in many ways troubling article recently about the steep learning curve that Mr. Obama, with no previous military background, has had to negotiate as a wartime commander in chief. Quoting an unnamed adviser to the president, Mr. Baker wrote that Mr. Obama sees the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq as “problems that need managing” while he pursues his mission of transforming the nation. Defense Secretary Robert Gates, speaking on the record, said, “He’s got a very full plate of very big issues, and I think he does not want to create the impression that he’s so preoccupied with these two wars that he’s not addressing the domestic issues that are uppermost in people’s minds.” Wars are not problems that need managing, which suggests that they will always be with us. They are catastrophes that need to be brought to an end as quickly as possible. Wars consume lives by the thousands (in Iraq, by the scores of thousands) and sometimes, as in World War II, by the millions. The goal when fighting any war should be peace, not a permanent simmer of nonstop maiming and killing. Wars are meant to be won — if they have to be fought at all — not endlessly looked after. One of the reasons we’re in this state of nonstop warfare is the fact that so few Americans have had any personal stake in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. There is no draft and no direct financial hardship resulting from the wars. So we keep shipping other people’s children off to combat as if they were some sort of commodity, like coal or wheat, with no real regard for the terrible price so many have to pay, physically and psychologically. Not only is this tragic, it is profoundly disrespectful. These are real men and women, courageous and mostly uncomplaining human beings, that we are sending into the war zones, and we owe them our most careful attention. Above all, we owe them an end to two wars that have gone on much too long. A version of this op-ed appeared in print on August 31, 2010, on page A21 of the New York edition.
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    Jeez, the ritziest, Marye?
    That kind of makes my skin crawl and not want to stay in a hotel anymore...
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    re bedbugs, if it's any consolation I'm always editing stuff for travel sites warning people that they can get bedbugs in the ritziest hotels these days. Re the NYC issue, I agree with you also.
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    one whit! :) no worries Gonzo!! Is rare that I form an opinion before reading and thinking for at least a bit, so is also rare that I change my mind :P Am still for the right to build, though I agree with you that an interfaith center would be a really cool idea!!********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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When our previous topic hit the 1,000-response mark, sleazy behavior by politicians was eliciting a certain amount of non-astonishment.
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to learn that the original hot stepper Gregory issacs passed away yesterday....... may the four winds blow you safely home.
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Last year it was Kodachrome, this year the Walkman. Next thing you know, they'll stop making rotary telephones.
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Paul the soccer-predicting octopus has died. R.I.P. Paul!********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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paul gone, our chatroom gone, gonzo gone....i'm outa cookies, and the news item ripple posted is not available.......arrg!!
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Thanx, marye....when I typed in the info from ripple I got a notice saying "this domain no longer served".
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paul the pshycic octopus,and i also miss gonzos pearls of wisdom about those cookies jm ill bake some for you and meet you in the chatroom real soon brother!!!!!
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cookies......!!
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Game 1 of the World Series: Giants are all over Cliff Lee and the Rangers in the 6th.....Juan's deep drive openned it up.. 8 to 2 right now. Lincecum heating up looking good.
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reference at all too this topic i just feel comfortable in here,just wanted to wish you all peace,love and happiness have a grate weekend boys and girls. best wishes Ripple70.
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The cartoon hits the nail on the head with the emergence of the Palinistas and their divisive ideas and statements. I need to go put on my Youngbloods album and sing along w Jesse.
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Renteria with the dagger again! Giants are up in game 5 after another Renteria hit, this time a big 3 run dinger: He sunk the Tribe in 1997 with a hit in game 7. Ironically, in 1954, the Giants beat the Tribe for their last Series win.
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Would not want anyone else to win if it cant be a Tiger.!! :):):):) Yahooo for the City Blessings to the Players and wife's and all the people that make it happen (the grunts) Do For Other's you Will Feel Better!!! Guaranteed
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Must be a party in SF! "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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Do For Other's you Will Feel Better!!! GuaranteedI believe you might like them. Most do.
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ok i lie i never have one question but will try to limit my self. Do For Other's you Will Feel Better!!! Guaranteed
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Do For Other's you Will Feel Better!!! Guaranteed Not like its bad . But will have to perform a forced quit hate making my Mac do what it does not want to.:):)
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Do For Other's you Will Feel Better!!! Guaranteed
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Do For Other's you Will Feel Better!!! Guaranteed
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jm,lily,dave,mean al,gc,ted,jackstraw wheres all the news hounds at this whole place is full of strangerswhere they marye.
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... just to shake their hand! Thanks, Ripple, for triggering a lyric from one of my favorite Hunter songs. Prop 19 went down in defeat out on the left coast last night. Meanwhile, in Kansas, the state selected all the Republican candidates......arrgh! US House of Reps also swung over to a Republican majority, putting Ohio's John Boehner in the Speaker position. Pres. Obama and his platform of change has hit a big speedbump.
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missing Gonzo's inspiration with hard news, but is no reason to shirk my self-appointed responsibility! Am also at a bit of a loss about what to say about yesterday's elections in America, and wanna pick carefully what news to post from that!********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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Yes Prop 19 was interesting, and terriffic that it was up for voting at all, BUT a whole lot more serious and scary issues on board right now than the right to be high or not, or at least in my opinion!********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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With all the influx of traffic to the site, my connection speed seems to have slowed down. Mostly just a little depressed this morning over the elections, not that it was unexpected. In my own Congressional district, I've been trying to vote out since I arrived in this state Virginia Foxx (looks like a stripper's name with the "XX", I know, but she's a blue-haired grandma), a former Bush sycophant and now a major obstructionist. She famously announced to the House this year that Matthew Shepard's murder was a robbery-homicide and that he was not targeted because he was gay, that the whole "hate crime" thing was a hoax perpertrated on the American people. While Matthew's mom was in attendance at the hearing... Just the tip of the Foxx iceberg, but the rural NC folks in my district (a gerrymandered-looking district if I've ever seen one) love her. I'm at a loss to understand why. I KNOW why, I just don't understand it. Mean Al
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I don't understand the lies and paranoia and insanity flying around either. It boggles my mind, honestly. Lies like you just told from Ms. Foxx. SOME folks should have to listen to our news over here for 2-3 days, to see what the rest of the world thinks about these elections. But then again prolly those folks don't care!! ********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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Michigan has such sheep as people we hire people who out source their ex company(GATEWAY)We just had a Major community say no to medical and not even allowed to grow in. The area is rural. Funny they all want to change the law we voted in by 63%. Prop 19 was defeated by the dispensaries and those cashing in a little know fact. Look were they gave their money. And there are far bigger concerns. This state bellied up to fear tactics and not remembering how we got in to such a lousy situation. Take no responsibility and blame others. Then when that does not work jump ships and expect gold streets in 2 years. Baffles me how can anything work unless all work together forget the sides were are all one. Yet im the idiot and unreasonable one and the Dreamer wont you be one too. Do For Other's you Will Feel Better!!! Guaranteed
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I watch europe for news BBC and others anything but our 2 owners deciding what we will hear.Americans look like pure idiots . Step back and take a view. Sad as it may be to do. Do For Other's you Will Feel Better!!! Guaranteed
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It's outrageous to have to put up with all the political b.s bought as advertisements by the media and shoved down our throats. Thank goodness the elections are over & the attack ads stop!I propose that no more political ads be placed on-air and that the money spent on such garbage be spent on charitable causes or paying down the national debt.
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Ted!********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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they're all bastards, both sides, they both use fear, paranoia and outright lies to try and convince the voters. The Murray/Rossi fight here in Washington state has been a prime example. Damned politicians have absolutely NO morals and don't want us to think for ourselves. I'm sick of it..........ok, now may I have a cookie?
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Let's start passing out the cookies. And some cake, cake and chocolate pudding for me, please.
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johnman pass me a cookie.
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the good people of singapore going about there daily shopping when bits of a plane start falling around there ears.Luckily no one was hit and it was just part of one of the planes engines so no probs there then.Plane made an emergency landing and everyone was fine,well with that and terror attacks no flying for this hippy for a while. Have a grate weekend all. Peace.
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Yeah musta been a shock alright for the passengers, as well as the folks on the ground in Singapore, who heard the boom and saw the parts falling. But it seems that Quantas acted responsibly, by grounding all 380's until experts can identify exactly what happened. Perhaps there's a reason why "Quantas never crashed" as Rainman said! ********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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...on the elections? (Sorry to be away friends but some times you have to give it a break).Alan Grayson went down in flames in ther 8th District of Florida. This guys ran a no holds barred political campaign that made a lot of the big-money boys cringe. He shouted out long and hard sabout the war and the economy, the banks -- you name it. Though he unfortunately negged out at the end with some stupid commercials. Speaking of neg. attack ads., They of are now in Vermont where they never used to be. Thank the PACS and the corps.. Elections are such a farce. The government is nothing but the enforcers of the Big Money boys. Think about it. The rich are taking as they like and telling us to shut up. I can only take this shit for so long before I snap. Fuck these vein, ridiculous people. There, see why I have to stay awy? My Blood Pressure just went up 20 points! Seriously though, missing the conversation with you all. ~ Don't lend your hand to raise no flag atop no ship of fools ~
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am dang glad to see you-high BP or not! ********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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But do watch the BPs....both the one starting in "blood" and the other one ending in "petroleum."
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You folks live in a tough country You choose a guy to lead you who is full of bright ideas He inherits a crock of shit, tries hard, but inevitably falls short of delivering the promised land in just 2 years. So what do you do? Cut off one his legs and say ‘There you go buddy. Lets see how you do in the next two years'’ Merciless? Democracy in action? A spineless loss of nerve? A judicious balancing of the ship? Who knows. This I do know. It may be wise not to trust intellectuals, but that does not make being wilfully ignorant any better.
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Turned into instant-gratification junkies here, CB. Get it done now = get it done last week or last month or last year, and long term = get it done yesterday. It's sometimes comical in my job -- testing things. "How quickly can you get it done?" "The test takes 40 hrs." "But how quickly can you get it done?" "40 hrs. takes 40 hrs. I can't change the speed at which time passes." Dissatisfied co-worker walks away thinking that I'm a jerk or incompetent or both. And maybe I AM a jerk and/or incompetent, but 40 hrs is still 40 hrs.
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screw politics, politicians, corporations, and politicians...did I mention corporations or politicians?