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    "We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

    We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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  • hendrixfreak
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    Somebody should break out the Ouija Board, start channeling Pig
    JimInMD, did you just call me? No Ouija Board here, but the river keeps on talkin', but you never hear a word it say... Maybe that grease reference from Bolo is a Pig-centric box they missed out on doing for the 50th. Could be a spring '71 extravaganza, as that era is relatively light in official releases. Or they flog '76 due to returned tapes Plan A. I'm wondering if Summer '73 will happen or whether the paltry number of shows in that period (plus two iconic shows) is reason for further delay in filling that six-month gap. Many '76 shows I find to be snoozers, but there's always an exception. I attended 6-19-76 at the small Capitol Theater in lovely Passaic, NJ, and friends had nabbed like 7th row, so close that we heard them singing and the backline of amps and not the PA. And they opened with Help On the Way and killed it. First East Coast shows (6-17, 6-18 and 6-19) I think after the hiatus. This show was broadcast and on the tape you can hear Mickey Hart call out for "St Stephen" and Weir goes, "No, Around and Around." Hart carps: "Have mercy, Weir!" I guess the "was there" factor would make me smile if they released this three-show run.
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    Here are my totally subjective rankings of the series. There's no real science. I would probably rank Academy higher but i have E72 which I go to very often, so this one just gets way less play. The Berkeley show would be higher but the added effect on Phil's bass is too much for me, and something else was too much for Jerry in set 2. Boulder is considerably worse than Horton. Just cant understand why this show was released. Without further ado: # Date Place 11 11/17/1972 Wichita 5 11/17/1973 Pauley Pavilion 13 2/24/1974 Winterland 21 4/2/1973 Boston Garden 16 3/28/1973 Springfield 9 5/14/1974 Missoula 15 4/22/1978 Nashville 23 1/22/1978 Eugene 8 11/30/1980 Fox Atlanta 24 8/25/1972 Berkeley 22 12/7/1971 Felt Forum 18 7/17/1976 Orpheum 17 7/19/1974 Selland 10 12/12/1969 Thelma 12 11/4/1977 Colgate 14 3/26/1972 Academy of Music 25 11/6/1977 Broome Co 6 12/20/1969 Fillmore + Fox Theater 19 1/23/1970 Hawaii 7 4/24/1978 Horton Fieldhouse 20 12/9/1981 Boulder
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    Help on the Way
    4-9-83 and 9-11-83 come to mind. I always liked 4-1-84 too.
  • Strider 808808
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    I first saw the "peanut" February 19,1971 at the Capitol Theater. The night before Jerry played his Gibson SG. I contacted Alembic Guitars a couple years ago by phone and talked with the daughter of Ron Wickersham. I told her about my first hand account of seeing Garcia play it in February of 71. She was cool and said they had no way of knowing exactly when Jerry would have first played it but that my first hand account was most likely true. She also said two Alembic experimental "peanut" guitars were made. Garcia changed out 3-4 guitars in 1971. Thats my story and I'm stickin to it!
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    Help on the Way - 1983 best versions?
    So as I've mentioned, I've been digging into 1976 versions of Help on the Way. '76 had a whopping 17 of them, followed by only 7 in 1977 (despite doing more shows: 60 vs 41.). If you add 1975, it's only 27 versions in the 70's - a surprisingly low number (to me). I have found the '76 versions to be consistently good, but each very distinct from their peers. But what caught my eye this morning as I perused Deadbase is that the year with the 2nd most Help on the Way's is '83 with 16! I had no clue.... I knew they played it in '83, but I didn't realize what a staple it became. They actually played it the same number of times '83-'85 as they did '75-77 (27 times). So clearly I have some work to do here. I have only 4 '83 shows - heavy on the Scarlet>Fire (another fav), but not a single '83 Help on the Way (though I think I used to have one or two on cassette a gazillion years ago....) Can anyone recommend a good '83 Help On the Way to track down? I recall hearing some un-polished 80's versions, but there must be some good ones. And I believe a box will be announced this week, possibly today. What IS in the box?
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    My heart grew two sizes seeing some of these under the radar shows get some praise.. especially The Other One from Lille and one of my go to under the radar shows 5/24 The Lyceum. The big shows get so much attention, and after so many listens the less flashy shows begin to stand out. I 100% agree with Brewer's comments, both on DaP 25 and that other subject I won't bring up by name. Sometimes coming to these boards is like watching your siblings throw heavy objects at each other until it dissolves into an all-out brawl on the basement floor. Just my opinion.. but I don't learn anything from it. Groundhog day. I really feel we are going to get something very special and very old this year.. be it in a box or a 1968 celebration of epic proportion. Somebody should break out the Ouija Board and start channeling Pigpen.
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    not an E72 level show, but
    a nice lil' show is 10/31/85. The opening of the show is priceless.
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    Judging from the artwork and the choice of show for this release, I bet they will issue the 4 Fillmore 69 shows as RSD releases...
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    re: PearlyBaker & those E'72 Other Ones..
    So I am curious if/when you listened & ranked these E' 72 Other Ones if you paid any attention to whether they hit up the 'Feelin' Groovy jam' in any of them? A few years back a did a pretty thorough pick-apart of the Dark Stars from E'72, with the sole intent on finding the ones with this jam in there. My future parallel project was to do the same with each 'Other One' from E'72, but i just haven't gotten around to it yet...but this lingering question continues to intrigue me. It's on my bucket list I suppose! Sixtus
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    Deadheadbrewer , 4 songs best ever , which ones ?
    11.6.77 is a cool show, I'm curious which ones stand out for u ? In comparison with recent releases I would rate 7.7.78 similar to 11.6.77
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"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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Sixtus - Yes! That's the NFA jam I highlighted a few months ago - the setlist looks kinda standard but that jam in NFA goes on for a looong time and has many moments that are Other One-ish. A scooby-snack where you don't expect one.... and a jam I will go back to often. Speaking of Scooby Doo - here's a killer local (Boston) band I recently mentioned that recently played the Scooby Duo background music at a show I saw. NOT the cheesy main theme song with vocals, but the jazzy background music. I recognized it instantly and just about fell out of my chair from the nostalgia... If you ever watched Scooby Doo, this melody will bring a smile to your face: https://youtu.be/Jchxzag1-ik. Some great guitar work if you listen to the whole track.
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Jeepers..
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Listening to that 11/15/71 sequence on Spotify now...to quote Swingers, well Michael, I'll bite. Transportational stuff. I haven't been as high on '71 lately as I once imagined (Dave's 22 and Bonus didn't knock me out), but the NFA > Goin' Down The Road from Skull & Roses is one of the prime movers of me being a Dead fan, so hearing this one from ~7 months later getting all out there is a treat. That Skull & Roses track, plus the Bertha opener, are untouchables to me. Though I still haven't heard all of that release..so mine is probably like a cow's opinion to you all (that is, moo). This Road Trips has long been on my radar as a necessary acquisition, but I've been slow playing on getting the Road Trips. Still getting up to speed on other stuff, so it's nice to leave some mystery out there. The Fillmore '69 box set is another one, maybe someday I'll pay the ungodly amount on the secondary market or acquire by other methods, but not Russian it.
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First, what a perfect descriptor for the instantly found delicious nugget. Second, that theme song is totally It. I was pretty much raised on Scooby Doo after school there for a few years; latch-key and all, you know? Love that kind of music. Reminds me of Medeski Martin & Wood with some Scofield thrown in. Another Boston meeting house. Third, I clearly missed your offering of the aforementioned NFA jammyness and I have now experienced it by mere happenstance but the fact that these sort of shows get the spotlight is what really counts. We All know how the song enlightens: "Sometimes you can get shown the light… " Next, Muleskinner applause your way for jumping down a rabbit hole. Finally. "If it wasn't for you meddling kids I would've gotten away with it!!" - Old Man Withers Sixtus
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I'll see your "007 373 5963" and raise you a "Created by Warren Robinett"
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....X. VEGAS GOLDEN KNIGHTS ARE PLAYOFF BOUND!! sorry for the interruption. As you were..... . . VegasStrong
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I think if we start telling bestiality jokes and arguing over our favorite Kiss album they will announce a new release. That's always worked in the past.
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Yeah, I remember as if it was yesterday, being 9 yrs old and the neighbor kid down the street showing us "the secret of the speck". This uncharted surprise turnred out to be a bigger thrill than winning the game. Good stuff. I ended up getting one of those Atari throwback consoles last year, and sure enough, the old trick still works. Best KISS album? Alive! and Destroyer. Best of the solo albums - Ace Frehley of course.
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Ok I'll bite. Did you hear the one about the princess kissing the frog. Let's see best kiss album that's easy.... none. Ok I'm waiting
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I heard from a reliable source that MaryE called Dave on his red phone in the wee hours this morning. This phone is only to be used in dire emergencies.. and is usually followed by breaking news. A box set announcement is imminent.. unless, of course, Dave is on holiday with Bolo in the Peruvian rain forest which case we will have to wait for him to come down before he films the release announcement. This, of course, is a distinct possibility.
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Scooby Doo background music.... ...on acid. Jeepers. Scooby Doo meets Kiss Dave.. save us from ourselves.. Post the seaside chat already!
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never quite understood the popularity of that band.
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Scooby and Shaggy sure seemed to like them. I feel a box set announcement bubbling up through the works here. I have no idea what it's going to be.. but a box set of rare, old, extremely kick ass partials is likely going to get released at some point. Especially if some of those partials are from those old 8 tracks they made in the Pacific NW in 1968. Channeling Dave making a seaside chat video today... The weather in Vancouver today... am rain, ending late morning. High of 52, partly cloudy, winds SW 5 to 10 mph. Sounds like great release video weather if you ask me.
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Is anyone else getting tired of looking at the exact same home page everyday? They need to spice it up...with a new release!
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....I think last year I said Rock and Roll Over, so I'm going with Rock and Roll Over.
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https://archive.org/details/gd1987-03-27.140855.sbd.miller.flac2496 We have two other very good shows played on this day. https://archive.org/details/gd1986-03-27.121600.sbd.miller.flac16 Only time "Revolutionary Hamstrung Blues" was ever performed. And In the strangest of places... https://archive.org/details/gd1988-03-27.141213.sbd.miller.flac2496 Another just released ultra-matrix master.
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though the possibility of returned tapes must stay DL's hand in that regard. At least from '69 onwards. But '68? It's nearly inconceivable that tapes from '68 sit undiscovered somewhere. At least, I've never heard of a '68 tape 'discovery' or 'return.' A two-disc set of partials from '68? Gawd, brilliant idea. DaP 26 is due in April, right? So the window for an Anthem or box announcement is closing.
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I bet you are correct, HF.. but if there were to be a few undiscovered ones, they would likely come via the Owsley Foundation or another Owsley source. Keep in mind.. the last reel or two from Dave's Picks 24 (8/25/72 BCT) were Owsley recorded and did not circulate prior to the release, so who knows.. Maybe there was a poorly labeled box in the tapes Bear held on to. Here's to hope, Without Love In The Dream.. right? Also, I bet there are some snippets that just never fit into other offerings. ..and weren't those 8 tracks that became the 68 Road Trips found just prior to that release. Did they release them all?
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Great link. I downloaded that bad boy right away! They seem to be up on the archive. I only hit one song, one show, real quick, but it was a nice recording. I will be going back to that well. But just for the sake of argument, I didn't know the Scooby tune, I was too old when the Scooby came out and never watched. The guitar work was nice and you can NEVER go wrong with a B3!
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I'm going with Alive II. The fourth album side was new studio tracks. I can see how some can't get past the theatrics and makeup, but the music is well-crafted power pop/melodic hard rock in the vein of Cheap Trick with a heavy Beatles influence. Still don't hear it? No worries here. I can't get into Phish. Gene Simmons bass lines are underrated. Granted, the over-the-topness and marketing blitz of this band are a bit much at times, but as a part of the soundtrack of my youth I will always have a soft spot for this music. \m/
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Dennis - Glad you like. The "B3 Kings" have a ton of great stuff on Archive.org. The band members rotate a bit based on the core members' touring schedules with J. Geils/Roomful of Blues and all the other bands they participate in. Look for Archive.org recordings that include not only Johnny Trama (the one guy who never rotates out) but also Jeff Lockhart (Berklee Music professor, Beyoncé, Dido) or Duke Levine (J. Geils, Mary Chapin Carpenter) who are stunning guitarists with impressive resumés if you Google them. Johnny also plays in a Rhode Island-based band called "The Silks" with blues singer/guitar virtuoso Tyler-James Kelly: /var/folders/d0/3h5ktk414r3gh3zb7ygkr8wc0000gn/T/com.apple.iChat/Messages/Transfers/IMG_1732.mov (You may have to cut/paste that address into the browser - it's worth it - the guys picking is stunning and kinda reminiscent of the western swing band "Jimmie Rivers and the Cherokees", which we have discussed.) Bostonians - Johnny Trama and the B3 Kings play TONIGHT (and most every Tuesday) 10pm-1am at the Plough and Stars in Cambridge - a great music venue that's basically a small bar with the band in the corner. I'll probably be there - They usually have one of the guys mentioned above sit in... amazing that you can just walk in off the street and sit next to the most accomplished guitarists in New England as they perform. I love Boston.
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Another Johnny Trama project in the Boston area is Dub Apocalypse. Tommy Benedetti and Van Martin play in this group and they do some pretty sweet reggae jamming. These shows are also on Archive. org. And of course, Benedetti and Martin have sat in numerous times with my favorite Boston area band, Club D'elf. I have never checked out the B3 Kings, but i certainly will now. Any bands with these guys are going to be great.
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Just the leaves. As the president of Colombia said recently: La hoja de coca no es droga... As for '68 snippets, returns, etc., I'm totally Sgt. Schultz on that. As for an announcement on Anthem reissue/'68 show or a box, we at least have a fresh Bolo sighting to tweak us. I'd go back to my original reasoning: that with Anthem/'68 show being released and DaP 26 being late '71, and the ABCD Enterprises focus for 18 months on '77-'78, they gotta branch out. My guess remains a small box, even (3) shows, from '76 (more ABCD) or Summer '73, the latter being the biggest gap in the official output at this point. (And with the '78 box still not sold-out, they might go with the sure-sales period of early '70s.) But I'm here, and Dave's in charge of the vault, so I can speculate all day long -- and sometimes do. That said, in hometown news, there's going to be a 50th anniversary release of Electric Ladyland with alts and outtakes, according to Janie Hendrix in a recent interview. After that, a Maui '70 documentary with full-on music soundtrack.
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What a wild story that is.. Here's a short snippet. https://belhistory.weebly.com/maui.html The whole story is much more involved and at times hard to believe, but true. Go for one of the books: https://www.amazon.com/Orange-Sunshine-Brotherhood-Eternal-Spread/dp/03… or the more detailed, probably better read https://www.amazon.com/Brotherhood-Eternal-Love-Flower-Counterculture/d… and lastly a brief discussion on youtube.
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Hope it's a good box set. An elderly man is taking his grandson on a tour of his farm. They pause under a large oak tree and the old man says "Under this tree I made love for the first time. And under that tree over there her mother sat and watched the whole thing!" The incredulous grandson says "Holy cow! What did she say?" "Baaa!"
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What did the sheep say to the redneck as he walked by... Daaaa-dddd. (sorry..) I was at a Hot Tuna show a few years ago and Jorma told us his own WV sheep joke at the beginning of Good Shepherd. I can't find any reference to it on line, but he told us it was a true story from an Athens Ohio native (just across the Ohio river from WV). Come on Dave.. Don't make us beg. It's already getting ugly.
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Downhill From Here.
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I listened to the vinyl copy of this for the first time today-wow! Like the other vinyl albums I have bought by The Dead recently, it has an incredible sound. Someone said on here last week that Phil's bass playing stands out on this set. Does it ever! Probably the loudest instrument in the mix. It sounds superb on the opening track Bertha-but he is ever present on all 4 sides, and all 4 are immaculate. It occurred to me listening, that in most of the 72 shows I have heard from this year, which have been from from March and April, I have focussed on different musicians at different times-sometimes Keith, sometimes Bob, usually Jerry..but not Phil so much. Try ignoring him on this one!
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Talking of other bands on here...there seem to have been a few live Cream cds released recently. I got one called Live In Detroit, which is an FM recording from Detroit's Grande Ballroom 15th October 1967. The sound isn't up to the standard of the releases that have been available for decades-its an FM recording at the end of the day-but its not bad. And the music is incredible. Cream had a massive impact in the 60s, and tend to be overlooked a bit now. They apparently had a profound effect on the West Coast. Jefferson Airplane souped up their sound accordingly after having seen them. And, according to Rock Skully, Jerry was so impressed that he got Rock to sack Pigpen and Bob, so he could front a power trio of his own-Mickey and The Hartbeats. A disastrous decision, which was quickly remedied.
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Imagine what Annie Haslam might have brought to the Dead........................Even as a guest spot.......
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I'm with you man. There are some outstanding moments on this record. I'm a big Ace fan, so I really dig his guitar solos on just about every song. My favorite solos from Ace on it: the one at the end of Love Gun; the one in Dr. Love (not to mention the backing vocals from Paul, and the mean-ass hook, and Peter's drumming, which swings like mad); and of course the solo in Shock Me (the one in the middle of the song, I mean, not the unaccompanied Ace-only one at the end - although that is hot too). I could go on. Makin' Love and God of Thunder guitar solos from Ace. Will never forget the Re-union in '96 at MSG. Hands down the most raucous crowd from beginning to end. Drunks playing air-guitar and rocking out in those vestibules where the concourse meets the stairwells in each section.
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Sheep "jokes" are pretty much the only thing that'll interest me in hearing Bobby's yellow dog story, which ALWAYS sucked. Okay, now I'm scared to check the forum. Will I get an email notification if a box or Anthem/50 is announced? Of course, there's that question of what Walmart and Michael Jackson had in common: boys pants, half off.................... Aaaaaauuuuuuugggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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My 93 year-old Grandmother passed today. It was not unexpected and I am not looking for sympathy; but I honor her now by playing Nat King Cole, her favorite. Later we will have a swig and go pour some brandy on the curb. Her favorite drink; some kind of old (Irish?) tradition. -- As far as Ace Frehley, man, that cool vibrato and how Ace just kind of hung out during his solos... Ace was the coolest member of KISS and just drips with coolness. I found an Ace shirt online, shipped from Germany, with his portrait from the solo album on front. It gets comments no matter where I wear it. Maybe I should rock it at Dead & Co. this summer. I'll agree that 1996 reunion show was a hoot! We were only about 20 rows back on Ace's side of the stage. Unforgettable, even if much of what's transpired since then is.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx3g-0yalV0 Why? No one can say. Edit: Led - I'm sorry for your loss. We'll pour some out here in WV as well. I'm not well-spoken on Nat, but my favorite that I know was always his version of God Rest Ye Merry, Gentleman. Listening now for you guys.
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....I stumbled across these guys a couple of months ago. KISS would be proud. Playing here in Vegas soon as a matter of fact, but at $45 a ticket, I think they're biting off too much Quarter Pounder than they can chew....I mean, Galactic is playing The Brooklyn Bowl tonight and their tix are only $25. Wait! Galactic's playing!....shit.
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