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    "We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

    We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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  • LoveJerry
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    You wrote "if you go and buy a box set on ebay for a thousand dollars its not really worth thousand dollars you're paying for." with all due respect,Your "argument" makes no sense and has no relevance to the discussion here. By your definition of "perceived value", nothing is worth anything (or everything is worth anything you want it to be). The discussion point here, is that the CD sets here are more valuable if they are no longer available at retail prices. $800 for Fillmore West or whatever the going price is, is not a perceived value it's the actual value. It's no different than the rookie Hank Aaron baseball card. It used to be worth the nickel you paid for the pack of cards, now it's worth much more because it's an old out-of-print collector's item. I think you were waxing Gestalt. Are we really here or do we just think we're here.....snafu's summary of stamp collecting is a good analogy too.
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    Gold has no value?
    Gold is one of the most important natural resources in the Earth. If you don't believe me look of the uses for gold in the sciences, engineering and computer science. Without gold the modern world and its technologies could not and would not exist. At this point in human history gold is invaluable and a limited resource so it will continue to increase in price. Thats why tech companies are looking into gold reclaiming methods from obsolete device. Recycling precious, conductive and non-reactive metals is an up and coming billionaire dollar business in developing nations right now. Unfortunately the poorest of the poor often do the labor and are exposed to toxins,carcinogens, and unsafe working conditions to bring us our electronic toys. Many Americans and "first-world" citizens still ignorantly benefit off the backs of the less fortunate. Its not just our clothes, running shoes, and soccer balls anymore.
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    perceived value: a customer's
    perceived value: a customer's opinion of a product's value to him or her. It may have little or nothing to do with the product's market price, and depends on the product's ability to satisfy his or her needs or requirements.
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    value
    Reading through all these posts makes me glad I invested all my money in tulips. Their value will never go down.
  • snafu
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    Collectors value
    To those who in response to my post on collectors say they never think of the value to other collectors or the market I understand but that just means your not a collector in the way I and most collectors define it. Not good not bad just irrelevant to the post. And to be honest "collectors" can be a little of both. My stamp collecting is 2 things to me. The value is definitely important but since I look at stamps as little works of art especially the older issues they have an aescetic value. As for GD releases it's much the same 1st comes the music but most definitely when I buy it as a ltd ed the collector in me thinks of the value appreciation. Too the younger members here how would you feel if some Michael Jordan special collectors sneaker was suddenly reissued dropping the value of your in the box etc etc sneaker by 75%
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    Economic illiteracy
    It never fails to amaze me the economic illiteracy that's out there and I'm not just talking about posts here. The price something sells for is its value at that moment not perceived. It could change in a day but at the moment of sale it mpst assuredly is worth that. The basis involves many things. The classic where I live is the price of housing. Houses on the peninsula in the Bay Area are starting at 700,000 minimum. I hear usually frpm non homeowners or people from elsewhere they're not wprth that much. Of course that's absurd since if I price something that the market will bare it won't sell, pretty simple. And addressing the perceived perspective they not only continue to rise but even during the worst of the real estate crash they selling prices took a momentary small dip then flattened out and within a year started rising. At each point along the way the price a house sold for eas its real value. Now as I said there are many thing that impact real npt perceived value. You live in an area where the industrial base collapses -detroit- the real value decreases because demand for housing drops because people are leaving. Another cause of real value change are land use laws. In the Bay Area ther are huge areas of the Peninsula where home building is severely restricted raising the value of what's left.If they suddenly passed a law opening that land to full use the real value of ecosting would obviously crash. The pint os real reasons for real value.
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    S'all about the music, y'all!
    I'm one of those old fuddie-duddie Gen X'ers who bought LPs when i was a kid and still enjoys having the "Real McCoy" item. And best retail CD sound quality, of course. If you are happy with lossy streams/mp3's and earbuds then: Good on you. Just so happens CDs sound the best. That's just the way it is. I have plenty of storage space so it's a WIN/WIN. If i was ever financially forced to sell, i'd be chuffed to just break even money wise. In fact i just bought DiP 6 (dunno why i slept on it for so long) which only leaves 27 missing from my Dick's Picks retail collection. And for the poster with all the Hendrix bootlegs: I'm sure you'd do just fine on ebay or discogs if you wanted to resell. (Might have to work fast due to the unlicensed music though.) As long as i keep my good job and good health, i will continue to buy retail CDs. Killer music and vintage audio gear is my life's one true passion. No kids. No wife anymore. No flash car payments. No regrets.
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    Perceived value
    Agreed. It's in the eye of the beholder. I paid $362 shipped to my door for the MAY 1977 2013 Box Set a month or two ago. Pens out to $26 per disc. The package and booklet are GSTL Ltd. Ed. level too. The shows all have that lovely, aquatic/lyseric jazzy cool Betty Board reverb that just does it for me and my Genalex Gold Lion KT88 output tubes. Def my fave era of the band. It's like they were listening to alot of Steely Dan and/or chasing the Dragon in the tour bus between that run of shows. (That's a good thing imho, Lols.)
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    In case you were wondering....
    ....I didn't sell a puck. "A" puck sold for that.
  • kyleharmon
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    well liberty caps they really
    well liberty caps they really aren't worth 60 bucks a disc. or any other limited product sold on ebay for that matter. they are sold at "perceived value" which is different from the actual value of a product. gold is worthless it serves no purpose. but because people want it cuz other people want it, It has "perceived value" and its expensive. so I mean if you go and buy a box set on ebay for a thousand dollars its not really worth thousand dollars you're paying for.
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"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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Can't seem to find a good image of the CD cover for 3/26/90 from the first Spring '90 box. Anybody got any, or links to them?
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....on Mac Sabbath's website of all places. (kidding. no I don't)....
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I've never seen a bad trip portrayed so realistically on stage. Pure genius.
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3/27/89 3/27/91 3/27/94 and 3/27/95 I would like to be released not just because I'm biased and they are birthday date shows but also I think they are very well played shows for their eras. thanks to someone for getting me these tapes. if you're reading this you know who you are. it was a great birthday
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I thought they were hilarious too.. I was half tempted to see them just to experience the absurd oddity of it all. ...then there is Little Ozzy, sort of like honey..., I shrunk the Rock Star or what happens if you mix brown acid or PCP with Ozzfest. Again.. Dave.. we're begging you. Package something up and make a video. One of the laryngitis shows, Boreal Ridge 85.. just make the announcement, and quick!
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Buffalo Killers(Hey Girl & Blood On Your Hands) & The Sheepdogs(I Don't Get By & I Don't Know).Bands worth your attention. :o)
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Statesboro Blues-The Allman Brothers Band "Wake up momma, turn your lamp down low; Wake up momma, turn your lamp down low. You got no nerve baby, to turn Uncle John from your door." ___________________________________________________________ "Uncle John" you say...interesting. Why is Uncle capitalized? Does anyone know the story/reason behind this?
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03/28/73Springfield Civic Center - Springfield, MA Set 1: Cumberland Blues Here Comes Sunshine Mexicali Blues Wave That Flag Beat It On Down The Line Loser Jack Straw Box Of Rain They Love Each Other El Paso Row Jimmy Around And Around Brown-Eyed Women You Ain't Woman Enough Looks Like Rain China Cat Sunflower I Know You Rider Set 2: Promised Land Loose Lucy Big River Mississippi Half-Step Me And My Uncle Don't Ease Me In The Race Is On Stella Blue WRS Prelude Dark Star Eyes Of The World Playin' In The Band Encore: Johnny B. Goode
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March 28:Disc Two First Set: "Truckin'" (Hunter, Jerry Garcia, Phil Lesh, Weir) – 9:49 "Tennessee Jed" (Hunter, Garcia) – 7:45 "Chinatown Shuffle" (Pigpen) – 3:10 "Black-Throated Wind" (John Barlow, Weir) – 6:48 "You Win Again" (Hank Williams) – 5:09 "Mr. Charlie" (Hunter, Pigpen) – 5:02 "Mexicali Blues" (Barlow, Weir) – 4:37 "Brokedown Palace" (Hunter, Garcia) – 6:13 "Next Time You See Me" (Frank Forest, William G. Harvey) – 4:52 "Cumberland Blues" (Hunter, Garcia, Lesh) – 6:09 Disc Three "Looks Like Rain" (Barlow, Weir) – 8:06 "Big Railroad Blues" (Noah Lewis) – 4:09 "El Paso" (Marty Robbins) – 5:25 "China Cat Sunflower" (Hunter, Garcia) – 5:05 > "I Know You Rider" (traditional, arr. Grateful Dead) – 6:27 "Casey Jones" (Hunter, Garcia) – 6:43 Second Set: "Playing in the Band" (Hunter, Hart, Weir) – 13:56 "Sugaree" (Hunter, Garcia) – 7:36 "The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)" (Pigpen) – 8:58 Disc Four "Sugar Magnolia" (Hunter, Weir) – 6:55 > "The Other One" (Bill Kreutzmann, Weir) – 28:16 "It Hurts Me Too" (Elmore James) – 9:23 "Not Fade Away" (Buddy Holly, Norman Petty) – 5:26 > "Goin' Down the Road Feelin' Bad" (trad., arr. Grateful Dead) – 8:20 > "Not Fade Away" (Holly, Petty) – 3:35 Encore: "The Sidewalks of New York" (James W. Blake, Charles B. Lawlor) – 1:10 > "One More Saturday Night" (Weir) – 4:43
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March 28, 1969http://gratefuldeadoftheday.com/03-28-1969 Modesto Junior College Student Center Modesto, California This is another show from Spring of 1969 where the Dead deliver every single night. And this show from Modesto Junior College is as good as any of them. The tape cuts into a raging Schoolgirl, which Pig struts through in full-on bad-ass form. After Pig gives a quick “thank you” at the end, the band completely switches gears, rolling out a fantastic Dark Star. It is marvelous from the start, but the last half - as Jerry drives forward with crystalline runs - is sure to raise goosebumps. Problem-laden, but still so good, versions of Stephen and The Eleven follow before a haunting, perfectly rendered Death Don’t Have No Mercy comes forth. Then, Pig asserts control once again, driving a balling Lovelight, which Jerry and the drummers make sublime. The second set is a bit short, made up entirely of an Other One suite that is fairly standard fare - meaning downright incredible - for 1969. Repost Bonanza: Grateful Dead – Modesto, CA (03/28/69) gd69-03-28-Student-Center Grateful Dead March 28, 1969 Student Center, Modesto Jr. College Modesto, CA Download: FLAC/MP3 https://themidnightcafe.org/2017/09/11/repost-bonanza-grateful-dead-mod… Recording Info: SBD -> Master Reel -> Cassette -> Dat Transfer Info: Dat -> Samplitude Professional v8.01 -> FLAC (2 Discs Audio / 1 Disc FLAC) All Transfers and Mastering By Charlie Miller charliemiller87@earthlink.net January 11, 2007 Patch Info: SBD -> Cassette Master -> Dat -> CD supplies The Eleven (5:54 – 6:09) All of Set 2 Notes: — Disc change is seamless — Thanks to Rob Bertrando for the patch source — The start of Schoolgirl is clipped, not too much is missing –Set 1– 101-d1t01 – //Good Morning Little Schoolgirl 102-d1t02 – Dark Star -> 103-d1t03 – St. Stephen -> 104-d1t04 – The Eleven -> 105-d1t05 – Death Don’t Have No Mercy 106-d2t01 – Turn On Your Lovelight –Set 2– 201-d2t02 – Cryptical Envelopment -> 202-d2t03 – Drums -> 203-d2t04 – The Other One -> 204-d2t05 – Cryptical Envelopment
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Shows up at a conference. He heads over to the reception table to check in. "Hi, name's Onomatopoeia." "Yes, and how do you spell that?" "Just like it sounds."
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I used to hear this song many years ago as a young boy and I didn't know the tile until decades later when David Lemieux and crew selected the 3/28/72 Academy of Music in New York show to be Dick's Picks 30 in 2003. This show includes a segment of Sidewalks as tune-up for the encore of One More Saturday Night. Here is the original 1928 recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mhi4_CjgdA Only 90 years ago. I thank Dave Lemieux & crew AND Deadhead and 1971 advocate, forensicdoceleven for turning me on again to this little ditty. Doc sent me 3/28/72 about a year ago as it was in circulation before it was released as Dick's 30.
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Thanks BCE'd, for adding some context to that historical ditty. The amazing thing is.. with what little they played of that song and without vocals, it's amazing anyone figured out what song it was. I had never heard of it. One of the things that I really like about the Grateful Dead is the respect they pay to traditional and roots music. Influences include Harry Smith's Anthology of American Music, Cannon Jug Stompers, Obray Ramsey, John and Allan Lomax, Bonnie Dobson, Dixie Cups, Rev. Gary Davis, Woodie Guthrie and the like.. just to name a few. The songs themselves are every bit as important as the skill in which they are played. Obscure and interesting. Thanks for giving us something to talk about.. a big step up from farm animals.
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A huge thanks to Thin for provoking me enough to get my ass out last night and experience some great local music with the B3 Kings. Not to mention another in-person meetup with a local Head. Who knew we were everywhere? I mean, besides Us? It was a great time, and the music was super slinky and solid. Well worth the time and company. Just makes me wonder on a geographical Plot, where we'd all be and how surprised the results would look once we realize we're all right in our own backyards. The Spirit lives on. Sixtus
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Farm animals?Mr. Ed probably could have been a Dead Head if younger, more hip writers and directors took control of that show, AND of course the series lasted much longer, or a later, late 70's early 80's, revival or the series took place. I remember your psychedelic lawn tractor from a while ago. If I recall correctly. (IIRC)
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Yes.. I thought I'd bring back the original wayback machine 1.0 with the controls set to 2/14/68.
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Thanks for the memory jog and listing the contents of Dick's Picks 30.
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when you look at it when you're chewing on life's gristle don't grumble, give a whistle
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It was great to finally meet someone on the other end of this board. As Sixtus said, we connected last night to see the B3 Kings in Cambridge at the Plough and Stars - great show and great company. Not the last time, I hope. The spirit of Saunders/Garcia is alive and well with the B3 Kings! They don't do any of their material, but the same vibe. Like walking into the Keystone in Berkeley in '75 and sitting right in front - crazy.
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Thanks for the link. I had bookmarked his old page for the cover scans, but for some reason wasn't able to download scans from it for a couple of years. I now can download them from his updated page. Thanks again.
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As old as civilization itself. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libation Will pour out a dram to honor Gran this evening. Will have Laird's Straight Apple Brandy; from the first licensed distillery in the US. Only the finest, I think she'll approve. So sorry for your family's loss. "May the four winds blow you safely home."
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From the Crossing Jordan soundtrack album Richard Thompson
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I saw several nods to DP 30 in the comments. I just bought this on eBay. I passed on the original release and I missed the Real Gone reissue. When it first came out I passed on it because I thought it was more about the novelty of the Bo Diiddley guest appearance and some of the other seldom played tunes from the first disc. Of course I was wrong. So as this is the case, when my copy arrives in the mail, it will be the first time that I will get to hear this release. I am pretty excited about it. Since I do have DaP 14, and I have the elusive Rockin the Rhein bonus disc, I have a way better context and appreciation for this run of shows. Well, I think I am understating that as I have more of a minor an obsession. I have been able to locate the DaP 14 bonus disc for a reasonable price (should have subscribed) so I may snag that to get more from this run. I know 1972 is well represented in the release category but I hope that they get around to releasing another complete show from this run some time in the future.
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....as you will soon find out Gratefulhan, his guest appearance was more than just a novelty. He fit right in....
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Just listened to that disc this past weekend.Very fine.
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Jim pulled the John Deere out of the barn.
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I go back and forth on this run.. Perhaps it's fair to say it's a prefix to E72. It has it's moments.. 3/23 is first class, the Caution>Jam>UJB from 3/22 is very nice, there's some Pedal Steel, a nice Smokestack, a couple really nice Other Ones.. I really enjoy listening to these shows but both sets don't congeal into the monumental full show experiences like they did across the pond. A lot of the songs really developed on that tour too (thinking Playing In the Band, China>Riders and the song structure and inventiveness in the second sets). Still two big thumbs up, but perhaps overshadowed by the earthquakes (and stellar recordings) that followed. I hope that's fair to say.. still, I am curious how they will sound with a fresh listen. It's been a while. What a momentous year. Edit: Yea.. spring is in the air.. I always liked that lawn mower.
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My problem with these releases is the sound quality. To my ear they have a hard dry edge to them. It's not extreme, just enough to keep them on the shelf more than other 72 releases. And let's face it, 1972 is a very competitive year when it comes to official releases.
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Yeah, for me it is the sound quality that is the problem. If the recordings had the same sound as E72, they should have been included in the E72 box, I think. The jamming is really of the same caliber to my ears. The E72 tour really started in the USA!
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That was really a touching vid, you would have thought the old guy was hearing Fire. In the beginning moments you would have thought the sound of fire had cured him the way he threw his walking sticks away. Unfortunately, he took the brown acid at Woodstock, this was him today. Sad but true. But he still had his groove!
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Before they start playing Sidewalks, Jerry is picking, "Give My Regards to Broadway". Also by the end of Sidewalks, I think they slipped in a little "Daisy". (daisy, daisy, give me your answer true), I thought I heard a little of the "..but you'll look sweet, up on the seat"
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Dave's Picks arrive at our doors on February 1, May 1, August 1 and November 1 give or take a few days. The seaside chat for DaP 22 was on April 14, 2017
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Double Derp. My bad. Carry on...just gettin' antsy.
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Grateful Dead Live at Ice Palace on 1969-03-29by Grateful Dead https://archive.org/details/gd1969-03-29.141435.sbd.dalton.miller.clugs… Publication date 1969-03-29 Topics Soundboard, Tim Dalton, Scott Clugston, Charlie Miller Collection GratefulDead Band/Artist Grateful Dead Resource DeadLists Project Set 1 Morning Dew, Good Morning Little School Girl, Doin' That Rag, Dark Star-> Saint Stephen-> The Eleven-> Turn On Your Love Light Notes: - Thanks to Tim Dalton for the source Dat - Thanks to Charlie Miller for the transfer - Thanks to Uli Teute, Rich Petlock and taperchuck for the soundboard source which supplies a 6:00 patch in "Dark Star" - "The next tune we're going to do is something we wrote especially for the Ice Palace here in Las Vegas. We wrote it this morning." Mastered by Scott Clugston 3/13/2018
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Grateful Dead Live at Carousel Ballroom on 1968-03-29by Grateful Dead https://archive.org/details/gd1968-03-29.sbd.miller.108993.flac16 Publication date 1968-03-29 (check for other copies) Topics Soundboard, Charlie Miller Collection GratefulDead Band/Artist Grateful Dead Resource DeadLists Project Set 1 Good Morning Little Schoolgirl Death Don't Have No Mercy Sitting On Top Of The World Dark Star Morning Dew Turn On Your Lovelight -> That's It For The Other One -> New Potato Caboose -> Born Cross Eyed// Other artist(s): Chuck Berry; Curly Cook's Hurdy-Gurdy Band Identifier gd1968-03-29.sbd.miller.108993.flac16 Lineage Dat (Sony R500) -> Adobe Audition v3.0 -> Samplitude Professional v11.03 -> FLAC Location San Francisco, CA Run time 61:24.10 Source SBD -> (4 Track) Master Reels -> Dat (44.1k) Transferred by Charlie Miller Type sound Venue Carousel Ballroom Year 1968 Check out the poster http://www.deadlists.com/posters/1960s/19680329.html
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Agree with all of the AOM comments. Feels like a warm up set of shows. Doesn't congeal. Audio not quite as good as other '72. Yet I have a friend who absolutely swears by it. AOM this, AOM that. They should have released the whole run as a box, etc. I don't get the appeal, considering everything else available from 1972, but I'm intrigued by my friend's preference toward this run, so I keep trying it. For me, I like the RTR bonus CD and parts of DP 30 and DaP 14, but for the most part, it stays on the shelf. The lone Dark Star is one of my favorites. Strange they only did onevin seven days, considering they played it every other night in Europe. Are You Lonely and the Bo Didley songs are nice. Pair of nice Wharf Rats on DaP 14. Always enjoy Brokedown Palace. One of only two Smokestack Lightning's with Keith. And there's Jerry's magic twanger.
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Today starts three nights at the Spectrum. My second home saw most of my shows there.https://archive.org/details/gd1987-03-29.139719.sbd.miller.flac2496 This 95er not bad either. https://archive.org/details/gd1995-03-29.136874.sbd.miller.flac1648 Don't need to mention 3/29/90 but I guess I just did. haha
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