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    "We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

    We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • Thin
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    Daverock - CD's - some still buy, but not many
    In 2002 CD sales accounted for 96% of recorded music sales. By 2017, CDs sales accounted for 15% of recorded music sales. Without the Dave's Picks series/other releases it would probably be about 10% :) I haven't bought any physical CD's at all in at least 10 years (exc. GD). I just buy the songs I want and download onto my phone from wherever I am.
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    'My brothers and sisters... ;)
    ...every one please take a positive deep breath in and exhale the negative, young grasshopper... :) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o4fWN6VvgKQ
  • daverock
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    Yes, that could set a few alarm bells ringing-both the fact that I received my copy last week, and that you have had post go missing in the recent past. They do travel a convoluted route from America to England-I think its via Switzerland or somewhere. With the benefit that we no longer have to pay the extortionate duty costs that we had to pay for the first few years. But still...it should have got to you by now I would have thought.
  • daverock
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    Thin-no one buys cds
    With respect, I feel I must say I still buy loads of cds. And never listen to music on the net.
  • Heywood Jablome
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    I don't get the hype...
    I don't get the hype of this release. While it has some decent moments there is nothing that blows me away and will make me pull this off the shelf very often. It's an average show at best and with so many other good shows yet to be released I don't know how this made the cut.
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    Alright Dissident I just thought your perspective wass literally as you stated "unauthorized? again, I don't need some official to tell me what is ok and what isn't" and "it's a band dude ... a rich band ... ". I personally get an "I don't care what/how TPTB feel about this" vibe from that, if that's not how you really feel than ok sorry, but those quotes are why I assumed that was your stance. Show me where I made anything more nasty, or attacked/implied/attributed anything to anyone... Things only got a little weird after you made a post with me as your headline, addressing how you thought I felt. I accept your apology, and literally the only thing aggravating was your ignorance and subsequent dismissal of my reply that you yourself provoked from me. I'm sorry if you feel like people are attacking you specifically, though I have stated in every comment/post that that wasn't my personal intent. I know things can be read the wrong way, or taken differently than a person intends and for my own shortcomings in writing I also apologize, literally at no point was I trying to be nasty towards you personally, but I will respond when my name comes up and things are implied/attributed to me, for the most part.
  • Thin
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    You wrote "bootlegs would not be necessary if the ptb released shows we want". In case you or others aren't aware, the ptb have endorsed the public consumption of every show and song that has EVER circulated on archive.org. You can listen to any show right now if ya want. There are apps that you can install that provide easy access in a very handy interface. Very few big acts do that. http://relisten.net/grateful-dead/ Frankly the CD-pirate debate is moot since a) No one buys CDs anymore and 2) it's all free on the 'net anyway....
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    If you randomly accuse someone of feeling a certain way, or imply things about that person, one would think you would read and respond to the person when they ask why one thinks theses things. I was accused of "much consternation", "hostility", and "making a big deal" due to one or two posts in which I said promoting bootlegs on this site is inappropriate, I fail to see how that implies either of those. Just because someone doesn't agree with you on one thing or criticizes an action made by a person does not imply an attack on that person specifically, again I feel this has been a civil/friendly discussion for the most part up until you started implying/attributing other ideas/emotions to specific people by name. "Must I reply to every comment?", what a disgusting sentiment to put forward in this context, made stranger by the fact that you specifically engaged me in this discussion. Almost as nasty as these statements you also made: "unauthorized? again, I don't need some official to tell me what is ok and what isn't" and "it's a band dude ... a rich band ... ". If you just came right out in the beginning with those statements than this discussion would've been over before it began, now we all know were your at... "F them, I do what I want". I hope you do watch the interview, maybe you'll stop trying to use an out of context quote to defend something the person your misquoting was actually not down with.
  • Thin
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    "F--- you, we'll do what we want"
    So by your logic, if I'm short on rent one month, It'd be OK to create 100 Dead boxes and peddle them to coffee shops and record stores in Boston - "Summer '73!", making $20 profit on each = $2,000! No problem! Heck, let's make another next month - Boston Tea Party '69! LOL. You presented Jerry's "when we're done with it they can have it" to validate and endorse pirating.... As long as you hold Jerry's words as gospel, from the "Jerry interview" posted below: "I think bootlegging is a burn - I prefer the tape exchanges and that sort of stuff because there's no profit in there. I have no objection to people having access to the music - that part of it doesn't bother me. But the thing of someone profiteering - that's annoying because people are paying money for stuff where someone isn't being cautious about quality... and its a burn, frankly, when someone just takes a cassette recording and puts it on a disc and sells people the disc. I realize people want the performances, but I can't go a long with that. If the bootleggers paid as much attention to quality as we do, I wouldn't have any complaints EXCEPT the fact that they're burning us." I picture you arguing a speeding ticket using the logic of 90's gate-crashers: "But officer, speeding is no big deal! The state is rich and doesn't need my fine $.... F--- you - we'll do what we want!!!" That kind of logic dominated the scene at some 90's shows - it didn't go well.
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    Seems like we've been here before...
    Most of the multitude of live FM performances that have been released in the last couple of years on a variety of labels all come from one source based in Cyprus (not the most law-abiding place in Europe). In Europe, such releases are legal, seemingly because radio stations have the copyright of the shows they aired. The situation would seem to be different in the US. I am not prepared to spend the time to determine what precisely is legal in various countries. There are literally hundreds of such releases, many by the Grateful Dead (of which the yellow box is just one). To waste time and energy debating the legality and the desirability of such releases seems fatuous. They exist, you can buy 'em if you want or you can leave them if you so desire. It is as simple as that. To try and take the moral high ground without fully knowing the facts is to leave yourself open to criticism - which may be just as unfounded.
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"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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Incredible clip of Tom Waits singing Rain Dogs. I haven't come across anyone else in music who approaches things quite like he does. Hats off- a true original.
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....I sense another Partridge Family / Brady Bunch debate forthcoming.
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Who had the better Consigliere? Mr. Kincaid? or Alice The Maid? I wonder who Jerry liked or disliked more?
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No debate there, man. The Partridge Family all the way. They had instruments that they almost played. And a quasi-psychedelic bus. And Reuben Kincaid! Those Bradys were just a canned act. Cue audience applause -- now!
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Yeah but I sill love Marcia, Marcia, Marcia!
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I'm with you there. Though Laurie Partridge held her own. At least until Charlie's Angels came along.
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Here is the live Tommy mp3 I spoke of yesterday or the day before, but forgot to post. A good friend reminded me. This is most of Tommy. I omitted Fiddle About, Cousin Kevin, and I think Tommy's Holiday Camp (Keith Moon would throw a FIT!) This is comprised of the best versions from Live at Leeds, Isle of Wight 1970, and Woodstock (Live at Hull had not been released yet). I think I doubled up on Sparks for very good reasons. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1gvnDVUzNQyjrs9XpNzKqkhGazTbb9cJI Let me know if it's properly accessible. For you audiophiles it went like this: CD => WAV => mp3 (320kbps); so while technically lossy, the word I've heard (read actually), is that the loss at 320kbps is in frequency ranges out of our hearing capability and metadata. When it came time to rip my Dead library digitally, I took the Pepsi Challenge on headphones and the big stereo, and Icannot distinguish between WAV and 320kbps mp3. Unfortunately, the Tommy WAV is MIA, sorry about that. Size = 101MB
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...as in, "Knockin' On Heaven's"... Sounds like ol' Jer might be figuring out how to plug in his MIDI from beyond the pearly gates! Either that or the "Space" from 7/8/78 that I broadcast into the universe from SETI's Allen Telescope Array a few years back is finally being acknowledged/answered by our alien brothers and sisters!
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Manzarek might have once asked Pigpen if he could use his organ and Pigpen didn't know this guy from Adam and refused him. From that you get what reads much like an over-wrought, heavily embroidered "story" about the GD from some skinny griper from LA. As a writer, it sounds like one or two molecules of memory and 99% BS larded on because poor little Ray's sensibilities were offended. Early '67 and a giant "support system" of blah blah blah? Sounds more like little Ray was intimidated by the general scene. Please pardon me, folks: F*** Ray Manzarek and his tight-ass LA BS.
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KeithFan I downloaded it okay. WOW. I've only ever heard the Tommy LP and this is WHOA NELLY!!! I can't believe my ears. Do you have a list of which songs came from which albums? Just a comment on the thin Doors - isn't it possible that the thin live sound is due to the recording quality? I mean, if you listen to '74 Dead, it's thin, but only because of the limitations imposed by the WoS rig, inasmuch as recording the music is concerned. There's no question that in person, the Wall of Sound was much fuller than what we got on tape. There is, of course, no substitute for a bass guitar in rock n roll, but if bass pedals and bassy low end organ is being played at the live Doors gigs, I imagine their sound would have been rich enough in person. But I'm guessing. I've never seen the Doors or heard a live record. Thin, I was not offended by anything you wrote, but commend your handling of the situation in subsequent posts. You are an officer and a gentleman. or was it a gentleman and a scholar? Laurie Partridge might be the most beautiful brunette of the 70s. The blue eyes, the bell-bottom jeans, the plaid button down shirts, the feathered hair style (did I miss any 70s attributes?) Oh yeah, I was reminded of the bra-less nipples through the t-shirt look, and the hairy armpits.
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I hardly ever listen to The Doors (anymore). That being said, I think L.A. Woman is up there in the pantheon of great studio albums. It's not Blonde on Blonde or Abbey Road, etc., but it is solid and definitely worth a listen.I think it is their studio album that has the most chance of appealing to a music-lover that does not otherwise consider themselves a Doors fan. Really looking forward to DaP 26! Still kind of wondering why they didn't go 12/14 and 12/15/71 (so as to get a Dark Star and that Lovelight medley on 12/15 - also back to back nights). But I hope it's because 11/17 was just too darn smoking and too much of a sonic upgrade to pass on.
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..purportedly made the brown acid at Woodstock. I guess that explains those freaky eye shades he was always wearing on tour. It's a toss up. Checking the weather in Vancouver.. perfect windy weather to record the box set release video... That Bolo video reminds me of the beginning of Close Encounters of the Third Kind..
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I had forgotten about the old supposed split in ideology between San Francisco bands and L.A ones. I always assumed THAT was BS-but thinking about it, maybe in the mid 60s the bands from LA made better records, but the bands from SF were better live. LA bands like The Doors, Buffalo Springfield, The Byrds, Love-all made brilliant records in 1966-67-but all were apparently less impressive live. With SF bands the reverse may have been true. Although Electric Music For The Mind and Body by Country Joe and the Fish was a classic. And After Bathing At Baxters was good, too. So maybe what I am saying is BS.
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I have some Doors concert recordings, will have to go back and check if they sound ‘thin’. Doors had a keyboard player who faked bass. Rush has a bass player who fakes keyboards. I like both Doors and Rush. But I like Grateful Dead best!!!!!
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Gotta transport those rockets somehow...
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Rockets are too big for the trunk. But what about Love and Rockets?
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...are so alive. They pretty much power themselves.
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Daddy's home
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Daddy's drunk. Again.
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Moe’s was having 3-for-1 specials all night long.
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By the end of the 60s, Sly and the Family Stone, Santana, Steve Miller Band, Creedence made GREAT music in the studio, much of it equal to or surpassing that of the popular L.A. bands. And where does the brilliance of the Mothers figure in this comparison? Great, original, loved and reviled....
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....(cue Obi-Wan). "Now that's a name I have not heard in a long, long time."
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finally listened to Wake of the Flood all the way through since it came to my house in the Beyond Description box set. and I haven't listened to a studio album in a long while. "we need a box set announcement now! YOU'RE ALL A BUNCH OF FUCKING ANIMALS!"
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....what are ya gonna do about it! What are ya gonna do about it! What are ya gonna do about it!." Morrisons rants aren't like Pigpens, but they get the point across....box set please?Welcome Terrapin Moon. I like your style.
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....your plane is crashing into the waters off some uninhabited island. You have a crate of every Who song ever recorded. You also have a crate of every Doors song ever recorded. Which one do you attach the parachute to? Answer wisely. Doors. (this is an unbiased poll. No "but I have a cargo ship of every Dead song ever recorded" answers.) I admit. It was a tough call for me ;)
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it's the only thing I know about him. Animals was my second real pink Floyd album (I won't count Echoes). I special ordered it at a record store in February '02. there's nothing that can replace special ordering an album at a record store and picking it up
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Have to go back to 23 and then all the way to 19 for a similar result. Topical and inspiring. More of same for awhile please!
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I think id take the doors and I don't even listen to the doors. I have a bit the who I just don't listen to em anymore and I think I like Who's Next out of what I have. but all this Doors talk is making me think of that Kids In The Hall skit about being a Doors fan
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LOVE Animals, my favorite Floyd album.Love Echoes too. By the way, which one’s Pink? I’ll jump out of the plane with The Who collection. Alternatively, I’ll throw both collections out of the plane and maybe the plane will keep flying until I reach my destination on the deserted island of Club Dead.
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Thanks for the help with the Janis folks.:o)
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unpopular request but, i'm hoping for some spring '92 to get released at some point. could make for a nice mini box.
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Bolo's back on the bacon. Or mayhaps not. Seems it could go either way.
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...charade you are.
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I always thought Roger Daltreys scream towards the end of this song was copped from Jim Morrisons in When The Musics Over. Not a bad thing-its one of the best Who records.
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7-27-73 2 CDs7-28-73 4 CDs 7-xx-73 1 CD Seven 7’s in the dates, and 7 CDs in the Box.
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The Ice Cream Kid makes a valid point, 1973? I suspect 1973 represents a large portion of the newly returned tapes and it fits with recent focus on returned reels. I was going through my collection this morning. The shows directly after Pig's passing (3/8/73) are the Spring '73 Nassau Coliseum shows. Excellent shows btw. 03/15/73- Nassau Coliseum - Uniondale, NY 03/16/73- Nassau Coliseum - Uniondale, NY 03/19/73- Nassau Coliseum - Uniondale, NY I went to add up the # of discs it would take, etc. and realized my 3/19/73 started with the last song of the first set, Playing in the Band. The soundboards for the first set were incomplete when I pulled this down from the archive all those years ago. Then I looked back out at the archive and sure enough.. there is a new Miller seed that has the complete show. It was added less than a month ago, on March 11th, 2018. Big Man, Pig Man (no Pig Man). HaHa.. Charade You Are. When Dave's Picks 13, 2/24/1974 was released.. on the release video (the one where he narrowly avoided being mauled by the group of bad tempered, LA sound grooving, rabid seals) Dave said this should have been released a long time ago but it was overlooked, because... "it was just too obvious." 1973 is just too obvious. I still think it's a Summer '73 Box, but Spring seems to fit the clues a touch better. The closer we get to nailing this, the more likely Dave will be to dust off his log rolling shoes and drag himself out on the rocky beach to dodge surly sea lions and record for us a release video.
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