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    "We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

    We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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  • Thin
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    Thanks Doc
    I need a cigarette after that read, Doc. Best post ever. At work, I tend to refer to any exhaustive analysis as "forensic" - now I know why. I particularly was struck by the comment "Sonically excellent recordings of PC71 have been out there for years, so pretty much everybody who wants has it already. Which means, oddly enough, that the group that has the highest interest in 1971 Dead probably has the lowest interest in a PC71 box set." Agreed. Me? I have 'em all in hi-q and it's not my favorite time-period by a long shot. I'd probably buy it for the 24 track re-master, but I could think of 10 other boxes I'd rather see before PC '71.
  • JimInMD
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    Re: Ha.. Picky Deadheads
    Ego and predispositions can drive the narrative at times.. if only there was something that magically removed these barriers? I had to look up IHeart Radio.. never heard of it. They appear to have about $40M in annual revenue. So many weird, streaming alternatives. I wonder when they will begin to consolidate?
  • stoltzfus
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    I gave my thoughts about this run a few days/weeks ago. It never ceases to amaze me the differing opinions about all things GD. 2/20 is Doc's fav. I find it weakest. DaP20 is skewered as crap. I find it acceptable, and even kind of good. D&C rocks. D&C...why bother. picky Deadheads, one and all. It HAS been a long time since I heard 2/21/71...gotta give that a listen.
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    stone jack baller
    http://dozin.com/esp/thedream.html
  • JimInMD
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    Pig, Portchester 71, FW69...
    Great dialogue regarding Pig, Portchester and FW69 lately.. Lots to digest, and the Portchester 71 Manifesto is icing on the cake especially as I am mid-way through my first complete listen to the run in a very long time. Great insights from forensic doc into a terrific growth and transitional period in the early annals of GD history. With the 46th anniversary of E72 less than a month away, I expect enjoyable dialogue to continue until we get our twofer '71 extravaganza in about three weeks (DaP 26). I have this tingling feeling they are putting the finishing touches on whatever this years box set is.. and Dave is healing up for his log-rolling, predatory sea animal evading roll-out video adventures. I feel confident we are going to a late '68 compendium along with the re-release of Anthem on our about July 18th. Anytime Alligator, Caution and the like come up multiple times in the same discussion gets my mojo workin' and puts a little Pig-jig in my stride.
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    That's "Ridin'" down the river in an old canoe... not "Sailin'"
    Not sure how Bobby and Phil played it, but if you use an acoustic guitar on Alligator, it's kinda like a children's song, that sing-song-y jug band feel. Finesse the big chords by going acoustic. Works here in endless Sativa land... Okay, I'm on the forensicdoc logic: The PTB will never EVER release the Summer '73 material. No WAY they go to spring '71 (okay, Doc, you're over-marinated in '71 now, and ... the rest of us have to suffer?) Etc. I'm totally down with Doc's choice of fall '72, if they include my first show. And Dave said explicitly that "that'll happen." BUT, what's left of '72 (a dozen or more shows?) is an ace up Dave's sleeve and other years (71, 73 even 74) have not gotten as much attention. 68-70 we know the tapes are limited and thus also aces up the sleeve. Though an Ark 69 or other 69 run might surprise. Dave has an eye on sales, sure, but he's also taking to heart the GD legacy and releasing what he thinks should be out there, performance-wise, sound-wise date-wise, city-wise, band configuration-wise, while picking carefully among the sonic challenges of the '80s and largely skipping the '90s due to band preferences. That puts me back in the 71, 73, 74 or 76 box 'camp,' at least in my addled mind. (Okay, spreading my bets now..) Maybe Bolo's video was a clue (bacon, grease, Pigpen; i.e., 69 or 71) or he has yet to drop the 'official tease' prior to an announcement.
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    rip pig
  • direwulf
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    Before the Dead Vinyl
    For better or worse, I wanted the vinyl too but convinced myself to just stick with CD's this time. Book will be provided as a digital copy but I'm an old-fashioned buy and a physical book is always best. Oh well, I convinced myself to pass on this vinyl...and I'm already regretting it. Pre-Dead folky-bluegrass Jerry on vinyl...what the hell was I thinking!!...maybe in a moment of weakness tonight after some libations I'll give in!
  • Angry Jack Straw
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    is sacrosanct. Know that. Here's the thing. Everybody had excellent quality copies of the all the GSTL shows before they were released. It sold out anyway. No different for the Cap. The more removed from the actual shows, the more the mystique grows. Despite any arguments for or against a release. It will sell out. And all those folks at Rhino know it. But, by releasing it, they relinquish one of the dwindling trump cards. Finally, if your career and income as an executive were tied to your choice of releases, how do you justify that BS known as DaP20?
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    Pardon me....
    .... Alligator -> China Cat Sunflower -> The Eleven -> Alligator -> Caution -> Feedback. Cures most ills. Curing mine as we speak. Cheers!
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"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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Incredible clip of Tom Waits singing Rain Dogs. I haven't come across anyone else in music who approaches things quite like he does. Hats off- a true original.
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....I sense another Partridge Family / Brady Bunch debate forthcoming.
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Who had the better Consigliere? Mr. Kincaid? or Alice The Maid? I wonder who Jerry liked or disliked more?
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No debate there, man. The Partridge Family all the way. They had instruments that they almost played. And a quasi-psychedelic bus. And Reuben Kincaid! Those Bradys were just a canned act. Cue audience applause -- now!
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Yeah but I sill love Marcia, Marcia, Marcia!
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I'm with you there. Though Laurie Partridge held her own. At least until Charlie's Angels came along.
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Here is the live Tommy mp3 I spoke of yesterday or the day before, but forgot to post. A good friend reminded me. This is most of Tommy. I omitted Fiddle About, Cousin Kevin, and I think Tommy's Holiday Camp (Keith Moon would throw a FIT!) This is comprised of the best versions from Live at Leeds, Isle of Wight 1970, and Woodstock (Live at Hull had not been released yet). I think I doubled up on Sparks for very good reasons. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1gvnDVUzNQyjrs9XpNzKqkhGazTbb9cJI Let me know if it's properly accessible. For you audiophiles it went like this: CD => WAV => mp3 (320kbps); so while technically lossy, the word I've heard (read actually), is that the loss at 320kbps is in frequency ranges out of our hearing capability and metadata. When it came time to rip my Dead library digitally, I took the Pepsi Challenge on headphones and the big stereo, and Icannot distinguish between WAV and 320kbps mp3. Unfortunately, the Tommy WAV is MIA, sorry about that. Size = 101MB
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...as in, "Knockin' On Heaven's"... Sounds like ol' Jer might be figuring out how to plug in his MIDI from beyond the pearly gates! Either that or the "Space" from 7/8/78 that I broadcast into the universe from SETI's Allen Telescope Array a few years back is finally being acknowledged/answered by our alien brothers and sisters!
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Manzarek might have once asked Pigpen if he could use his organ and Pigpen didn't know this guy from Adam and refused him. From that you get what reads much like an over-wrought, heavily embroidered "story" about the GD from some skinny griper from LA. As a writer, it sounds like one or two molecules of memory and 99% BS larded on because poor little Ray's sensibilities were offended. Early '67 and a giant "support system" of blah blah blah? Sounds more like little Ray was intimidated by the general scene. Please pardon me, folks: F*** Ray Manzarek and his tight-ass LA BS.
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KeithFan I downloaded it okay. WOW. I've only ever heard the Tommy LP and this is WHOA NELLY!!! I can't believe my ears. Do you have a list of which songs came from which albums? Just a comment on the thin Doors - isn't it possible that the thin live sound is due to the recording quality? I mean, if you listen to '74 Dead, it's thin, but only because of the limitations imposed by the WoS rig, inasmuch as recording the music is concerned. There's no question that in person, the Wall of Sound was much fuller than what we got on tape. There is, of course, no substitute for a bass guitar in rock n roll, but if bass pedals and bassy low end organ is being played at the live Doors gigs, I imagine their sound would have been rich enough in person. But I'm guessing. I've never seen the Doors or heard a live record. Thin, I was not offended by anything you wrote, but commend your handling of the situation in subsequent posts. You are an officer and a gentleman. or was it a gentleman and a scholar? Laurie Partridge might be the most beautiful brunette of the 70s. The blue eyes, the bell-bottom jeans, the plaid button down shirts, the feathered hair style (did I miss any 70s attributes?) Oh yeah, I was reminded of the bra-less nipples through the t-shirt look, and the hairy armpits.
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I hardly ever listen to The Doors (anymore). That being said, I think L.A. Woman is up there in the pantheon of great studio albums. It's not Blonde on Blonde or Abbey Road, etc., but it is solid and definitely worth a listen.I think it is their studio album that has the most chance of appealing to a music-lover that does not otherwise consider themselves a Doors fan. Really looking forward to DaP 26! Still kind of wondering why they didn't go 12/14 and 12/15/71 (so as to get a Dark Star and that Lovelight medley on 12/15 - also back to back nights). But I hope it's because 11/17 was just too darn smoking and too much of a sonic upgrade to pass on.
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..purportedly made the brown acid at Woodstock. I guess that explains those freaky eye shades he was always wearing on tour. It's a toss up. Checking the weather in Vancouver.. perfect windy weather to record the box set release video... That Bolo video reminds me of the beginning of Close Encounters of the Third Kind..
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I had forgotten about the old supposed split in ideology between San Francisco bands and L.A ones. I always assumed THAT was BS-but thinking about it, maybe in the mid 60s the bands from LA made better records, but the bands from SF were better live. LA bands like The Doors, Buffalo Springfield, The Byrds, Love-all made brilliant records in 1966-67-but all were apparently less impressive live. With SF bands the reverse may have been true. Although Electric Music For The Mind and Body by Country Joe and the Fish was a classic. And After Bathing At Baxters was good, too. So maybe what I am saying is BS.
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I have some Doors concert recordings, will have to go back and check if they sound ‘thin’. Doors had a keyboard player who faked bass. Rush has a bass player who fakes keyboards. I like both Doors and Rush. But I like Grateful Dead best!!!!!
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Gotta transport those rockets somehow...
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Rockets are too big for the trunk. But what about Love and Rockets?
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...are so alive. They pretty much power themselves.
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Daddy's home
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Daddy's drunk. Again.
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Moe’s was having 3-for-1 specials all night long.
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By the end of the 60s, Sly and the Family Stone, Santana, Steve Miller Band, Creedence made GREAT music in the studio, much of it equal to or surpassing that of the popular L.A. bands. And where does the brilliance of the Mothers figure in this comparison? Great, original, loved and reviled....
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....(cue Obi-Wan). "Now that's a name I have not heard in a long, long time."
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finally listened to Wake of the Flood all the way through since it came to my house in the Beyond Description box set. and I haven't listened to a studio album in a long while. "we need a box set announcement now! YOU'RE ALL A BUNCH OF FUCKING ANIMALS!"
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....what are ya gonna do about it! What are ya gonna do about it! What are ya gonna do about it!." Morrisons rants aren't like Pigpens, but they get the point across....box set please?Welcome Terrapin Moon. I like your style.
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....your plane is crashing into the waters off some uninhabited island. You have a crate of every Who song ever recorded. You also have a crate of every Doors song ever recorded. Which one do you attach the parachute to? Answer wisely. Doors. (this is an unbiased poll. No "but I have a cargo ship of every Dead song ever recorded" answers.) I admit. It was a tough call for me ;)
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it's the only thing I know about him. Animals was my second real pink Floyd album (I won't count Echoes). I special ordered it at a record store in February '02. there's nothing that can replace special ordering an album at a record store and picking it up
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Have to go back to 23 and then all the way to 19 for a similar result. Topical and inspiring. More of same for awhile please!
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I think id take the doors and I don't even listen to the doors. I have a bit the who I just don't listen to em anymore and I think I like Who's Next out of what I have. but all this Doors talk is making me think of that Kids In The Hall skit about being a Doors fan
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LOVE Animals, my favorite Floyd album.Love Echoes too. By the way, which one’s Pink? I’ll jump out of the plane with The Who collection. Alternatively, I’ll throw both collections out of the plane and maybe the plane will keep flying until I reach my destination on the deserted island of Club Dead.
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Thanks for the help with the Janis folks.:o)
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unpopular request but, i'm hoping for some spring '92 to get released at some point. could make for a nice mini box.
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Bolo's back on the bacon. Or mayhaps not. Seems it could go either way.
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...charade you are.
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I always thought Roger Daltreys scream towards the end of this song was copped from Jim Morrisons in When The Musics Over. Not a bad thing-its one of the best Who records.
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7-27-73 2 CDs7-28-73 4 CDs 7-xx-73 1 CD Seven 7’s in the dates, and 7 CDs in the Box.
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The Ice Cream Kid makes a valid point, 1973? I suspect 1973 represents a large portion of the newly returned tapes and it fits with recent focus on returned reels. I was going through my collection this morning. The shows directly after Pig's passing (3/8/73) are the Spring '73 Nassau Coliseum shows. Excellent shows btw. 03/15/73- Nassau Coliseum - Uniondale, NY 03/16/73- Nassau Coliseum - Uniondale, NY 03/19/73- Nassau Coliseum - Uniondale, NY I went to add up the # of discs it would take, etc. and realized my 3/19/73 started with the last song of the first set, Playing in the Band. The soundboards for the first set were incomplete when I pulled this down from the archive all those years ago. Then I looked back out at the archive and sure enough.. there is a new Miller seed that has the complete show. It was added less than a month ago, on March 11th, 2018. Big Man, Pig Man (no Pig Man). HaHa.. Charade You Are. When Dave's Picks 13, 2/24/1974 was released.. on the release video (the one where he narrowly avoided being mauled by the group of bad tempered, LA sound grooving, rabid seals) Dave said this should have been released a long time ago but it was overlooked, because... "it was just too obvious." 1973 is just too obvious. I still think it's a Summer '73 Box, but Spring seems to fit the clues a touch better. The closer we get to nailing this, the more likely Dave will be to dust off his log rolling shoes and drag himself out on the rocky beach to dodge surly sea lions and record for us a release video.
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