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    "We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

    We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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  • stoltzfus
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    wtf Peachy post in the movies
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNC3OciAF3w
  • Row-jimmy
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    How about? ...
    ... 1-18-78~ Stockton with bonus disc of 1-17-78 Sacramento!If there has to be any more 78s.
  • Vguy72
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    No Vegas stop during Dead & Co's summer tour....
    ....looks like LA. Here I come.
  • RadnipJerry
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    Re: Wrecked em
    Era schmeara......btw that 4-6-82 Truckin is sans the doo dah man. Bobby was distracted by a veritable hen house of hot mainline girls!
  • SkullTrip
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    Re: Era Debate
    Hear! Hear, Bolo! I couldn't agree more. Whatever era tickles your ear-sockets, plug it in and hang on for the ride, I say. Personal preference is always between you and you.
  • bolo24
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    Era debate
    Over 100 billion people have set foot on this planet during its history, most of whom never experienced the joy of hearing a single note of music performed by the Grateful Dead. I feel blessed to be among those relative few who continue to reap the benefits of the Dead's collective musical genius. It borders on the miraculous that, for 3 decades, folks had the foresight to record most of their concerts so that we Deadheads may now enjoy this blissful music in all its fully-Normanized, HDCD splendor. In the grand scheme of things, I'm of the opinion that any GD era is a wonderful era, and any GD show is a wonderful show. Except Boreal, but mostly because of the traffic, heat and dust. And the "Day Tripper" encore.
  • SkullTrip
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    Haven't a clue, Minas. Clearly (or not so clearly) it's open to interpretation. But whatever he's saying, I'm digging his posts so far. Refreshing change from the usual kvetching, grousing, and one-upping that seems to permeate these forums. Though he does appear to be in need of weed. For his ailing eyesight, I believe...
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    Thin, another thought
    So I thought I'd look once more at recent releases and see if they fit a pattern, re: the ABCD Enterprises angle. 2016's '78 box's liner notes bears the note, "Tapes provided through the assistance of ABCD Enterprises, LLC," as well as "Tapes recovered and restored by Rob Eaton." 2017's '77 box references ABCD Enterprises and the Special Thanks includes Eaton's name. Jibes with what we've heard. Eaton tracked down the couple who bought part of Betty's locker and tape stash, cleaned up the tapes and helped get the couple in touch with the GD org. DaP 20/2016/Boulder '81 lacks any reference to ABCD. DaP 21/2017/Boston '73 (a fave) references ABCD, thanks Eaton. DaP 22/2017/NYC '71 (fave) references ABCD, thanks Eaton. DaP 23/2017/Eugene '78 references ABCD, thanks Eaton. DaP 24/2017/Berkeley '72 (a fave) references ABCD, thanks Eaton. There's a dozen shows, released 2016-2017, from the ABCD returned tapes stash, with Boulder the lone non-ABCD release; it might even have been a fall-back project while they worked over the returned tapes. We know Dave has stated his predilection for releasing returned tapes promptly (see the "houseboat tapes"), which injects some excitement/drama into the vault release program. That approach happens to dovetail with the theory that the band didn't buy back tapes but agreed to allow ABCD a share of the profits and possibly agreed to a rapid, successive release of returned tapes, which has indeed transpired. The dozen shows referenced above range from 1971 to 1978, so that's quite a range of years, and bodes well for the future. Plus, somehow I get/got the sense that the ABCD tape stash includes several dozen reels/shows -- in other words, so many that Dave can and will take a break at some point and maintain part of his own DaP plans in place before the ABCD tape trove was available. I'd guess that the vault has an ample inventory of '77 and '78 tapes, thus the releases (primarily the boxes) have favored those years. Again, a nice dovetail: a trove of returned tapes for years well represented in the vault allows Dave to put out two boxes and not really dent his 77-78 stash. I'd even guess that DaP 25 and 26 will be based, at least in part, on returned tapes from ABCD. Dave may already have said as much. I don't think this year's box can draw on '77 or '78 in deference to variety, but with the ABCD stash ranging from '71 to '78 (that we know of), the ABCD returned tapes might still contribute to a box from '73 or '74 -- my current guesses of the 2018 box focus. Obviously had some time on my hands today... but the upshot is positive for anyone who likes the '70s shows. One last thought: I'd guess that with the Anthem re-release providing an opportunity to put out a '68 show, that for 'balance' DaP 27 and 28 will include a '69 show and an early '80s show. Well, enough of my thoughts.
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    re: Returning of reels ONLY if released near-term....
    hendrixfreak - I loved your comment: "there may have been some arrangement to get returned tapes released relatively quickly... That way, the folks holding the tapes received some recompense for their willingness to provide the tapes". GREAT POINT... never thought of that! Why would any knucklehead relinquish possession and control of the tapes (in return for what is likely a "time of sale" recompense) unless the time of sale is near-term? The Dead could just throw them in the back of the Vault and say "Thanks!!! Maybe we'll release it someday!"... Suddenly you realize you have relinquished possession and control of the reels and will be reduced to logging in here every day to see if it'll ever get out - sucker! Requiring a near-term release is smart - I'd be paranoid that Dave/Rhino might tilt toward non-royalty releases (based on profit, or simply principle!), and/or the show would instead be somehow leaked through the trading community just to spite those who have "spent years trying to hold the Dead hostage for THEIR OWN music, man!"...
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    I couldn't make head or tails of that Peachy post. What was he saying?
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"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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Incredible clip of Tom Waits singing Rain Dogs. I haven't come across anyone else in music who approaches things quite like he does. Hats off- a true original.
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....I sense another Partridge Family / Brady Bunch debate forthcoming.
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Who had the better Consigliere? Mr. Kincaid? or Alice The Maid? I wonder who Jerry liked or disliked more?
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No debate there, man. The Partridge Family all the way. They had instruments that they almost played. And a quasi-psychedelic bus. And Reuben Kincaid! Those Bradys were just a canned act. Cue audience applause -- now!
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Yeah but I sill love Marcia, Marcia, Marcia!
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I'm with you there. Though Laurie Partridge held her own. At least until Charlie's Angels came along.
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Here is the live Tommy mp3 I spoke of yesterday or the day before, but forgot to post. A good friend reminded me. This is most of Tommy. I omitted Fiddle About, Cousin Kevin, and I think Tommy's Holiday Camp (Keith Moon would throw a FIT!) This is comprised of the best versions from Live at Leeds, Isle of Wight 1970, and Woodstock (Live at Hull had not been released yet). I think I doubled up on Sparks for very good reasons. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1gvnDVUzNQyjrs9XpNzKqkhGazTbb9cJI Let me know if it's properly accessible. For you audiophiles it went like this: CD => WAV => mp3 (320kbps); so while technically lossy, the word I've heard (read actually), is that the loss at 320kbps is in frequency ranges out of our hearing capability and metadata. When it came time to rip my Dead library digitally, I took the Pepsi Challenge on headphones and the big stereo, and Icannot distinguish between WAV and 320kbps mp3. Unfortunately, the Tommy WAV is MIA, sorry about that. Size = 101MB
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...as in, "Knockin' On Heaven's"... Sounds like ol' Jer might be figuring out how to plug in his MIDI from beyond the pearly gates! Either that or the "Space" from 7/8/78 that I broadcast into the universe from SETI's Allen Telescope Array a few years back is finally being acknowledged/answered by our alien brothers and sisters!
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Manzarek might have once asked Pigpen if he could use his organ and Pigpen didn't know this guy from Adam and refused him. From that you get what reads much like an over-wrought, heavily embroidered "story" about the GD from some skinny griper from LA. As a writer, it sounds like one or two molecules of memory and 99% BS larded on because poor little Ray's sensibilities were offended. Early '67 and a giant "support system" of blah blah blah? Sounds more like little Ray was intimidated by the general scene. Please pardon me, folks: F*** Ray Manzarek and his tight-ass LA BS.
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KeithFan I downloaded it okay. WOW. I've only ever heard the Tommy LP and this is WHOA NELLY!!! I can't believe my ears. Do you have a list of which songs came from which albums? Just a comment on the thin Doors - isn't it possible that the thin live sound is due to the recording quality? I mean, if you listen to '74 Dead, it's thin, but only because of the limitations imposed by the WoS rig, inasmuch as recording the music is concerned. There's no question that in person, the Wall of Sound was much fuller than what we got on tape. There is, of course, no substitute for a bass guitar in rock n roll, but if bass pedals and bassy low end organ is being played at the live Doors gigs, I imagine their sound would have been rich enough in person. But I'm guessing. I've never seen the Doors or heard a live record. Thin, I was not offended by anything you wrote, but commend your handling of the situation in subsequent posts. You are an officer and a gentleman. or was it a gentleman and a scholar? Laurie Partridge might be the most beautiful brunette of the 70s. The blue eyes, the bell-bottom jeans, the plaid button down shirts, the feathered hair style (did I miss any 70s attributes?) Oh yeah, I was reminded of the bra-less nipples through the t-shirt look, and the hairy armpits.
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I hardly ever listen to The Doors (anymore). That being said, I think L.A. Woman is up there in the pantheon of great studio albums. It's not Blonde on Blonde or Abbey Road, etc., but it is solid and definitely worth a listen.I think it is their studio album that has the most chance of appealing to a music-lover that does not otherwise consider themselves a Doors fan. Really looking forward to DaP 26! Still kind of wondering why they didn't go 12/14 and 12/15/71 (so as to get a Dark Star and that Lovelight medley on 12/15 - also back to back nights). But I hope it's because 11/17 was just too darn smoking and too much of a sonic upgrade to pass on.
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..purportedly made the brown acid at Woodstock. I guess that explains those freaky eye shades he was always wearing on tour. It's a toss up. Checking the weather in Vancouver.. perfect windy weather to record the box set release video... That Bolo video reminds me of the beginning of Close Encounters of the Third Kind..
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I had forgotten about the old supposed split in ideology between San Francisco bands and L.A ones. I always assumed THAT was BS-but thinking about it, maybe in the mid 60s the bands from LA made better records, but the bands from SF were better live. LA bands like The Doors, Buffalo Springfield, The Byrds, Love-all made brilliant records in 1966-67-but all were apparently less impressive live. With SF bands the reverse may have been true. Although Electric Music For The Mind and Body by Country Joe and the Fish was a classic. And After Bathing At Baxters was good, too. So maybe what I am saying is BS.
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I have some Doors concert recordings, will have to go back and check if they sound ‘thin’. Doors had a keyboard player who faked bass. Rush has a bass player who fakes keyboards. I like both Doors and Rush. But I like Grateful Dead best!!!!!
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Gotta transport those rockets somehow...
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Rockets are too big for the trunk. But what about Love and Rockets?
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...are so alive. They pretty much power themselves.
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Daddy's home
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Daddy's drunk. Again.
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Moe’s was having 3-for-1 specials all night long.
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By the end of the 60s, Sly and the Family Stone, Santana, Steve Miller Band, Creedence made GREAT music in the studio, much of it equal to or surpassing that of the popular L.A. bands. And where does the brilliance of the Mothers figure in this comparison? Great, original, loved and reviled....
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....(cue Obi-Wan). "Now that's a name I have not heard in a long, long time."
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finally listened to Wake of the Flood all the way through since it came to my house in the Beyond Description box set. and I haven't listened to a studio album in a long while. "we need a box set announcement now! YOU'RE ALL A BUNCH OF FUCKING ANIMALS!"
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....what are ya gonna do about it! What are ya gonna do about it! What are ya gonna do about it!." Morrisons rants aren't like Pigpens, but they get the point across....box set please?Welcome Terrapin Moon. I like your style.
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....your plane is crashing into the waters off some uninhabited island. You have a crate of every Who song ever recorded. You also have a crate of every Doors song ever recorded. Which one do you attach the parachute to? Answer wisely. Doors. (this is an unbiased poll. No "but I have a cargo ship of every Dead song ever recorded" answers.) I admit. It was a tough call for me ;)
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it's the only thing I know about him. Animals was my second real pink Floyd album (I won't count Echoes). I special ordered it at a record store in February '02. there's nothing that can replace special ordering an album at a record store and picking it up
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Have to go back to 23 and then all the way to 19 for a similar result. Topical and inspiring. More of same for awhile please!
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I think id take the doors and I don't even listen to the doors. I have a bit the who I just don't listen to em anymore and I think I like Who's Next out of what I have. but all this Doors talk is making me think of that Kids In The Hall skit about being a Doors fan
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LOVE Animals, my favorite Floyd album.Love Echoes too. By the way, which one’s Pink? I’ll jump out of the plane with The Who collection. Alternatively, I’ll throw both collections out of the plane and maybe the plane will keep flying until I reach my destination on the deserted island of Club Dead.
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Thanks for the help with the Janis folks.:o)
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unpopular request but, i'm hoping for some spring '92 to get released at some point. could make for a nice mini box.
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Bolo's back on the bacon. Or mayhaps not. Seems it could go either way.
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...charade you are.
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I always thought Roger Daltreys scream towards the end of this song was copped from Jim Morrisons in When The Musics Over. Not a bad thing-its one of the best Who records.
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7-27-73 2 CDs7-28-73 4 CDs 7-xx-73 1 CD Seven 7’s in the dates, and 7 CDs in the Box.
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The Ice Cream Kid makes a valid point, 1973? I suspect 1973 represents a large portion of the newly returned tapes and it fits with recent focus on returned reels. I was going through my collection this morning. The shows directly after Pig's passing (3/8/73) are the Spring '73 Nassau Coliseum shows. Excellent shows btw. 03/15/73- Nassau Coliseum - Uniondale, NY 03/16/73- Nassau Coliseum - Uniondale, NY 03/19/73- Nassau Coliseum - Uniondale, NY I went to add up the # of discs it would take, etc. and realized my 3/19/73 started with the last song of the first set, Playing in the Band. The soundboards for the first set were incomplete when I pulled this down from the archive all those years ago. Then I looked back out at the archive and sure enough.. there is a new Miller seed that has the complete show. It was added less than a month ago, on March 11th, 2018. Big Man, Pig Man (no Pig Man). HaHa.. Charade You Are. When Dave's Picks 13, 2/24/1974 was released.. on the release video (the one where he narrowly avoided being mauled by the group of bad tempered, LA sound grooving, rabid seals) Dave said this should have been released a long time ago but it was overlooked, because... "it was just too obvious." 1973 is just too obvious. I still think it's a Summer '73 Box, but Spring seems to fit the clues a touch better. The closer we get to nailing this, the more likely Dave will be to dust off his log rolling shoes and drag himself out on the rocky beach to dodge surly sea lions and record for us a release video.
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