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    "We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

    We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • hendrixfreak
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    Somebody should break out the Ouija Board, start channeling Pig
    JimInMD, did you just call me? No Ouija Board here, but the river keeps on talkin', but you never hear a word it say... Maybe that grease reference from Bolo is a Pig-centric box they missed out on doing for the 50th. Could be a spring '71 extravaganza, as that era is relatively light in official releases. Or they flog '76 due to returned tapes Plan A. I'm wondering if Summer '73 will happen or whether the paltry number of shows in that period (plus two iconic shows) is reason for further delay in filling that six-month gap. Many '76 shows I find to be snoozers, but there's always an exception. I attended 6-19-76 at the small Capitol Theater in lovely Passaic, NJ, and friends had nabbed like 7th row, so close that we heard them singing and the backline of amps and not the PA. And they opened with Help On the Way and killed it. First East Coast shows (6-17, 6-18 and 6-19) I think after the hiatus. This show was broadcast and on the tape you can hear Mickey Hart call out for "St Stephen" and Weir goes, "No, Around and Around." Hart carps: "Have mercy, Weir!" I guess the "was there" factor would make me smile if they released this three-show run.
  • Slow Dog Noodle
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    Here are my totally subjective rankings of the series. There's no real science. I would probably rank Academy higher but i have E72 which I go to very often, so this one just gets way less play. The Berkeley show would be higher but the added effect on Phil's bass is too much for me, and something else was too much for Jerry in set 2. Boulder is considerably worse than Horton. Just cant understand why this show was released. Without further ado: # Date Place 11 11/17/1972 Wichita 5 11/17/1973 Pauley Pavilion 13 2/24/1974 Winterland 21 4/2/1973 Boston Garden 16 3/28/1973 Springfield 9 5/14/1974 Missoula 15 4/22/1978 Nashville 23 1/22/1978 Eugene 8 11/30/1980 Fox Atlanta 24 8/25/1972 Berkeley 22 12/7/1971 Felt Forum 18 7/17/1976 Orpheum 17 7/19/1974 Selland 10 12/12/1969 Thelma 12 11/4/1977 Colgate 14 3/26/1972 Academy of Music 25 11/6/1977 Broome Co 6 12/20/1969 Fillmore + Fox Theater 19 1/23/1970 Hawaii 7 4/24/1978 Horton Fieldhouse 20 12/9/1981 Boulder
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    Help on the Way
    4-9-83 and 9-11-83 come to mind. I always liked 4-1-84 too.
  • Strider 808808
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    I first saw the "peanut" February 19,1971 at the Capitol Theater. The night before Jerry played his Gibson SG. I contacted Alembic Guitars a couple years ago by phone and talked with the daughter of Ron Wickersham. I told her about my first hand account of seeing Garcia play it in February of 71. She was cool and said they had no way of knowing exactly when Jerry would have first played it but that my first hand account was most likely true. She also said two Alembic experimental "peanut" guitars were made. Garcia changed out 3-4 guitars in 1971. Thats my story and I'm stickin to it!
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    Help on the Way - 1983 best versions?
    So as I've mentioned, I've been digging into 1976 versions of Help on the Way. '76 had a whopping 17 of them, followed by only 7 in 1977 (despite doing more shows: 60 vs 41.). If you add 1975, it's only 27 versions in the 70's - a surprisingly low number (to me). I have found the '76 versions to be consistently good, but each very distinct from their peers. But what caught my eye this morning as I perused Deadbase is that the year with the 2nd most Help on the Way's is '83 with 16! I had no clue.... I knew they played it in '83, but I didn't realize what a staple it became. They actually played it the same number of times '83-'85 as they did '75-77 (27 times). So clearly I have some work to do here. I have only 4 '83 shows - heavy on the Scarlet>Fire (another fav), but not a single '83 Help on the Way (though I think I used to have one or two on cassette a gazillion years ago....) Can anyone recommend a good '83 Help On the Way to track down? I recall hearing some un-polished 80's versions, but there must be some good ones. And I believe a box will be announced this week, possibly today. What IS in the box?
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    My heart grew two sizes seeing some of these under the radar shows get some praise.. especially The Other One from Lille and one of my go to under the radar shows 5/24 The Lyceum. The big shows get so much attention, and after so many listens the less flashy shows begin to stand out. I 100% agree with Brewer's comments, both on DaP 25 and that other subject I won't bring up by name. Sometimes coming to these boards is like watching your siblings throw heavy objects at each other until it dissolves into an all-out brawl on the basement floor. Just my opinion.. but I don't learn anything from it. Groundhog day. I really feel we are going to get something very special and very old this year.. be it in a box or a 1968 celebration of epic proportion. Somebody should break out the Ouija Board and start channeling Pigpen.
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    not an E72 level show, but
    a nice lil' show is 10/31/85. The opening of the show is priceless.
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    Judging from the artwork and the choice of show for this release, I bet they will issue the 4 Fillmore 69 shows as RSD releases...
  • Sixtus_
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    re: PearlyBaker & those E'72 Other Ones..
    So I am curious if/when you listened & ranked these E' 72 Other Ones if you paid any attention to whether they hit up the 'Feelin' Groovy jam' in any of them? A few years back a did a pretty thorough pick-apart of the Dark Stars from E'72, with the sole intent on finding the ones with this jam in there. My future parallel project was to do the same with each 'Other One' from E'72, but i just haven't gotten around to it yet...but this lingering question continues to intrigue me. It's on my bucket list I suppose! Sixtus
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    Deadheadbrewer , 4 songs best ever , which ones ?
    11.6.77 is a cool show, I'm curious which ones stand out for u ? In comparison with recent releases I would rate 7.7.78 similar to 11.6.77
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"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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Incredible clip of Tom Waits singing Rain Dogs. I haven't come across anyone else in music who approaches things quite like he does. Hats off- a true original.
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....I sense another Partridge Family / Brady Bunch debate forthcoming.
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Who had the better Consigliere? Mr. Kincaid? or Alice The Maid? I wonder who Jerry liked or disliked more?
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No debate there, man. The Partridge Family all the way. They had instruments that they almost played. And a quasi-psychedelic bus. And Reuben Kincaid! Those Bradys were just a canned act. Cue audience applause -- now!
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Yeah but I sill love Marcia, Marcia, Marcia!
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I'm with you there. Though Laurie Partridge held her own. At least until Charlie's Angels came along.
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Here is the live Tommy mp3 I spoke of yesterday or the day before, but forgot to post. A good friend reminded me. This is most of Tommy. I omitted Fiddle About, Cousin Kevin, and I think Tommy's Holiday Camp (Keith Moon would throw a FIT!) This is comprised of the best versions from Live at Leeds, Isle of Wight 1970, and Woodstock (Live at Hull had not been released yet). I think I doubled up on Sparks for very good reasons. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1gvnDVUzNQyjrs9XpNzKqkhGazTbb9cJI Let me know if it's properly accessible. For you audiophiles it went like this: CD => WAV => mp3 (320kbps); so while technically lossy, the word I've heard (read actually), is that the loss at 320kbps is in frequency ranges out of our hearing capability and metadata. When it came time to rip my Dead library digitally, I took the Pepsi Challenge on headphones and the big stereo, and Icannot distinguish between WAV and 320kbps mp3. Unfortunately, the Tommy WAV is MIA, sorry about that. Size = 101MB
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...as in, "Knockin' On Heaven's"... Sounds like ol' Jer might be figuring out how to plug in his MIDI from beyond the pearly gates! Either that or the "Space" from 7/8/78 that I broadcast into the universe from SETI's Allen Telescope Array a few years back is finally being acknowledged/answered by our alien brothers and sisters!
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Manzarek might have once asked Pigpen if he could use his organ and Pigpen didn't know this guy from Adam and refused him. From that you get what reads much like an over-wrought, heavily embroidered "story" about the GD from some skinny griper from LA. As a writer, it sounds like one or two molecules of memory and 99% BS larded on because poor little Ray's sensibilities were offended. Early '67 and a giant "support system" of blah blah blah? Sounds more like little Ray was intimidated by the general scene. Please pardon me, folks: F*** Ray Manzarek and his tight-ass LA BS.
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KeithFan I downloaded it okay. WOW. I've only ever heard the Tommy LP and this is WHOA NELLY!!! I can't believe my ears. Do you have a list of which songs came from which albums? Just a comment on the thin Doors - isn't it possible that the thin live sound is due to the recording quality? I mean, if you listen to '74 Dead, it's thin, but only because of the limitations imposed by the WoS rig, inasmuch as recording the music is concerned. There's no question that in person, the Wall of Sound was much fuller than what we got on tape. There is, of course, no substitute for a bass guitar in rock n roll, but if bass pedals and bassy low end organ is being played at the live Doors gigs, I imagine their sound would have been rich enough in person. But I'm guessing. I've never seen the Doors or heard a live record. Thin, I was not offended by anything you wrote, but commend your handling of the situation in subsequent posts. You are an officer and a gentleman. or was it a gentleman and a scholar? Laurie Partridge might be the most beautiful brunette of the 70s. The blue eyes, the bell-bottom jeans, the plaid button down shirts, the feathered hair style (did I miss any 70s attributes?) Oh yeah, I was reminded of the bra-less nipples through the t-shirt look, and the hairy armpits.
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I hardly ever listen to The Doors (anymore). That being said, I think L.A. Woman is up there in the pantheon of great studio albums. It's not Blonde on Blonde or Abbey Road, etc., but it is solid and definitely worth a listen.I think it is their studio album that has the most chance of appealing to a music-lover that does not otherwise consider themselves a Doors fan. Really looking forward to DaP 26! Still kind of wondering why they didn't go 12/14 and 12/15/71 (so as to get a Dark Star and that Lovelight medley on 12/15 - also back to back nights). But I hope it's because 11/17 was just too darn smoking and too much of a sonic upgrade to pass on.
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..purportedly made the brown acid at Woodstock. I guess that explains those freaky eye shades he was always wearing on tour. It's a toss up. Checking the weather in Vancouver.. perfect windy weather to record the box set release video... That Bolo video reminds me of the beginning of Close Encounters of the Third Kind..
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I had forgotten about the old supposed split in ideology between San Francisco bands and L.A ones. I always assumed THAT was BS-but thinking about it, maybe in the mid 60s the bands from LA made better records, but the bands from SF were better live. LA bands like The Doors, Buffalo Springfield, The Byrds, Love-all made brilliant records in 1966-67-but all were apparently less impressive live. With SF bands the reverse may have been true. Although Electric Music For The Mind and Body by Country Joe and the Fish was a classic. And After Bathing At Baxters was good, too. So maybe what I am saying is BS.
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I have some Doors concert recordings, will have to go back and check if they sound ‘thin’. Doors had a keyboard player who faked bass. Rush has a bass player who fakes keyboards. I like both Doors and Rush. But I like Grateful Dead best!!!!!
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Gotta transport those rockets somehow...
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Rockets are too big for the trunk. But what about Love and Rockets?
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...are so alive. They pretty much power themselves.
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Daddy's home
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Daddy's drunk. Again.
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Moe’s was having 3-for-1 specials all night long.
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By the end of the 60s, Sly and the Family Stone, Santana, Steve Miller Band, Creedence made GREAT music in the studio, much of it equal to or surpassing that of the popular L.A. bands. And where does the brilliance of the Mothers figure in this comparison? Great, original, loved and reviled....
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....(cue Obi-Wan). "Now that's a name I have not heard in a long, long time."
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finally listened to Wake of the Flood all the way through since it came to my house in the Beyond Description box set. and I haven't listened to a studio album in a long while. "we need a box set announcement now! YOU'RE ALL A BUNCH OF FUCKING ANIMALS!"
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....what are ya gonna do about it! What are ya gonna do about it! What are ya gonna do about it!." Morrisons rants aren't like Pigpens, but they get the point across....box set please?Welcome Terrapin Moon. I like your style.
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....your plane is crashing into the waters off some uninhabited island. You have a crate of every Who song ever recorded. You also have a crate of every Doors song ever recorded. Which one do you attach the parachute to? Answer wisely. Doors. (this is an unbiased poll. No "but I have a cargo ship of every Dead song ever recorded" answers.) I admit. It was a tough call for me ;)
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it's the only thing I know about him. Animals was my second real pink Floyd album (I won't count Echoes). I special ordered it at a record store in February '02. there's nothing that can replace special ordering an album at a record store and picking it up
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Have to go back to 23 and then all the way to 19 for a similar result. Topical and inspiring. More of same for awhile please!
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I think id take the doors and I don't even listen to the doors. I have a bit the who I just don't listen to em anymore and I think I like Who's Next out of what I have. but all this Doors talk is making me think of that Kids In The Hall skit about being a Doors fan
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LOVE Animals, my favorite Floyd album.Love Echoes too. By the way, which one’s Pink? I’ll jump out of the plane with The Who collection. Alternatively, I’ll throw both collections out of the plane and maybe the plane will keep flying until I reach my destination on the deserted island of Club Dead.
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Thanks for the help with the Janis folks.:o)
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unpopular request but, i'm hoping for some spring '92 to get released at some point. could make for a nice mini box.
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Bolo's back on the bacon. Or mayhaps not. Seems it could go either way.
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...charade you are.
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I always thought Roger Daltreys scream towards the end of this song was copped from Jim Morrisons in When The Musics Over. Not a bad thing-its one of the best Who records.
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7-27-73 2 CDs7-28-73 4 CDs 7-xx-73 1 CD Seven 7’s in the dates, and 7 CDs in the Box.
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The Ice Cream Kid makes a valid point, 1973? I suspect 1973 represents a large portion of the newly returned tapes and it fits with recent focus on returned reels. I was going through my collection this morning. The shows directly after Pig's passing (3/8/73) are the Spring '73 Nassau Coliseum shows. Excellent shows btw. 03/15/73- Nassau Coliseum - Uniondale, NY 03/16/73- Nassau Coliseum - Uniondale, NY 03/19/73- Nassau Coliseum - Uniondale, NY I went to add up the # of discs it would take, etc. and realized my 3/19/73 started with the last song of the first set, Playing in the Band. The soundboards for the first set were incomplete when I pulled this down from the archive all those years ago. Then I looked back out at the archive and sure enough.. there is a new Miller seed that has the complete show. It was added less than a month ago, on March 11th, 2018. Big Man, Pig Man (no Pig Man). HaHa.. Charade You Are. When Dave's Picks 13, 2/24/1974 was released.. on the release video (the one where he narrowly avoided being mauled by the group of bad tempered, LA sound grooving, rabid seals) Dave said this should have been released a long time ago but it was overlooked, because... "it was just too obvious." 1973 is just too obvious. I still think it's a Summer '73 Box, but Spring seems to fit the clues a touch better. The closer we get to nailing this, the more likely Dave will be to dust off his log rolling shoes and drag himself out on the rocky beach to dodge surly sea lions and record for us a release video.
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