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    "We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

    We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • Gratefulhan
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    Thin see what I mean my wiring is crossed for sure even without the caffeine. No but I meant writing. I do have a gift for coming up with very creative tyops though. Good times for sure!
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    I’ve generally enjoyed the various incarnations over the years. I’ve seen Phil and Friends several times over the years. My favorite post-dead memory is seeing Phil & Friends in a small place in San Francisco in early 2001 (Maritime Hall). I believe Warren was with him but I could be wrong– it was a blast. My girlfriend (now wife) and I danced all night and Phil, as usual, was candid and warm with the small(ish) crowd. I’ve seen DSO with JK and thought they were great. I also saw him front a band earlier this year (Golden Gate wingmen) with Jeff Chimenti as well. Fun times and I think he brings his own style to the table. I don’t necessarily think of him as a jerry clone. D&C is worth the price of admission. You can tell they like playing with each other and you get a sense that they are pushing each other too. See this band!
  • Gratefulhan
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    Yeah so I am off work today, sick, might have the flu. My coffee is doing its job so while the caffeine is flowing I am going to harness this energy. So no more commenting for me as I need to do some work. However i could use some help from all of you: I could use a few recommendations for shows to listen to today, preferably something under the radar. So not an official release and it has to be on the Archive. Any year or era is cool with me. Any help I can get from all of you would be great. Thanks!
  • Thin
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    You wrote: "I certainly don’t do well with putting thoughts into wiring" ;) Can you give an example??? LOL
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    Dennis had mentioned this previous regarding potential comments made towards Further , but the term tribute band or cover band gets thrown around a lot for post Jerry line-ups not just Further. Dennis I agree with you that Fruther was not a tribute band, more so none of the post Jerry line-ups were /are a tribute or cover band. Usually I see people who are angry that remaining members are playing music go right towards this sequence of name calling and complaints: they are only tribute/cover band > they are greedy > Jerry would be rolling in his grave etc... Basically when I see this I have often posed the question: At what point do musicians who are continuing to play their own music (which is their profession), who have played this music for decades prior, become a cover band? I always cite the Allman Brothers as another example as they retained their name, even after they lost their lead guitarist and bass played within a year. They carried on went and did great things. Please I know too that am not diminishing Jerry in any way. There is only one of him, irreplaceable, we all know that. That is why these line-ups are not the Grateful Dead and why they are different- they should be different. I think more than anything is that people are still upset about Jerry being gone as I know I am Yet some take it on out the remaining members. I am not saying that some criticisms aren’t warranted, but playing music isn't one of them. Again to quote Thin: “We are very lucky folks. Let's enjoy the bus-ride while it lasts.” Anyway I am not going to ramble anymore about this, but that tribute/cover band thing does bring a out a little fire in me.
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    “But ultimately it's still an homage and an interpretation of JERRY'S music and presence, and therefore could never equal the original. But that's cool - I can still experience authentic, primo live Dead featuring one of the best guitarists in the world (can't wait to watch the 3 mexican shows this wknd!), and thanks to Dave et al we have HUNDREDS of primo GD shows - the best of both worlds. We are very lucky folks. Let's enjoy the bus-ride while it lasts.” Thin- once again someone is able to articulate things better than me. At least I certainly don’t do well with putting thoughts into wiring. But yes I agree with what you said, that the experience of the post-Jerry line-ups is cool when I get to attend the event, but the recording not so much. When I focus on recordings it is going to be of the Grateful Dead. I don’t know about all of you but I can still get blown away from listening to shows for the first time, I even get goosebumps at times. Please everyone keep the recommendations for shows coming, it’s awesome! Yet as far as post Jerry line-ups go, I still am amazed that is now 2018 and we all the opportunity to see the rest of the boys playing, even if they are all not quite playing together as Phil has got his own thing. We do have the best of both worlds right now.
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  • JimInMD
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    All true.. sometimes it doesn't come through to the recordings.. like that enigmatic friend you have where photos don't capture the sparkle.. But the recordings seem to be getting better as is the live sound. I have enjoyed really.. all the reincarnations of the GD. I am just happy they are passing the torch and bringing in new talent. People bring in their own styles and personalities. I think we are being a little harsh on Warren and Trey, but I get it of some think it's a bad fit. More importantly, the music seems to have grown instead of dying out, at least to me.. besides sell-out pop acts, take a look at who is touring year after year and artists who have absorbed at least a little of the GD pixie dust are well represented. Still.. there's nothing like the real thing. Jerry was a magical beast. I get a kick out of all the critical comments, era wars, etc. It's like Zagat ratings on GD shows. When Jerry was on, I mean really on.. I could care less if Liberace was on the keys and Bam Bam Rubble on drums, I was happy to be there and just as happy enjoying it today. Don't take the wrong point from this, they were a complete band, a group mind.. and they all contributed amazingly well.. That's my take anyway, glad someone had the foresight to press the record button, nothing but smiles.. and I look forward to the listening part I carve out for myself each day.
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    Email your politicians. Point out that you were in the military and am now being treated unjustly. Unless you were dishonorably discharged.
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    That does sound insane. I'm really sorry to hear this.. I did not have to supply bank records or IRS documentation when I got my passport.. I would keep trying to get one, so you have it for the next opportunity. I'd gladly write a letter in your behalf, not that it would make a difference. Someone has a bug up their ass and needs to crap.
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"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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Incredible clip of Tom Waits singing Rain Dogs. I haven't come across anyone else in music who approaches things quite like he does. Hats off- a true original.
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....I sense another Partridge Family / Brady Bunch debate forthcoming.
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Who had the better Consigliere? Mr. Kincaid? or Alice The Maid? I wonder who Jerry liked or disliked more?
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No debate there, man. The Partridge Family all the way. They had instruments that they almost played. And a quasi-psychedelic bus. And Reuben Kincaid! Those Bradys were just a canned act. Cue audience applause -- now!
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Yeah but I sill love Marcia, Marcia, Marcia!
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I'm with you there. Though Laurie Partridge held her own. At least until Charlie's Angels came along.
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Here is the live Tommy mp3 I spoke of yesterday or the day before, but forgot to post. A good friend reminded me. This is most of Tommy. I omitted Fiddle About, Cousin Kevin, and I think Tommy's Holiday Camp (Keith Moon would throw a FIT!) This is comprised of the best versions from Live at Leeds, Isle of Wight 1970, and Woodstock (Live at Hull had not been released yet). I think I doubled up on Sparks for very good reasons. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1gvnDVUzNQyjrs9XpNzKqkhGazTbb9cJI Let me know if it's properly accessible. For you audiophiles it went like this: CD => WAV => mp3 (320kbps); so while technically lossy, the word I've heard (read actually), is that the loss at 320kbps is in frequency ranges out of our hearing capability and metadata. When it came time to rip my Dead library digitally, I took the Pepsi Challenge on headphones and the big stereo, and Icannot distinguish between WAV and 320kbps mp3. Unfortunately, the Tommy WAV is MIA, sorry about that. Size = 101MB
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...as in, "Knockin' On Heaven's"... Sounds like ol' Jer might be figuring out how to plug in his MIDI from beyond the pearly gates! Either that or the "Space" from 7/8/78 that I broadcast into the universe from SETI's Allen Telescope Array a few years back is finally being acknowledged/answered by our alien brothers and sisters!
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Manzarek might have once asked Pigpen if he could use his organ and Pigpen didn't know this guy from Adam and refused him. From that you get what reads much like an over-wrought, heavily embroidered "story" about the GD from some skinny griper from LA. As a writer, it sounds like one or two molecules of memory and 99% BS larded on because poor little Ray's sensibilities were offended. Early '67 and a giant "support system" of blah blah blah? Sounds more like little Ray was intimidated by the general scene. Please pardon me, folks: F*** Ray Manzarek and his tight-ass LA BS.
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KeithFan I downloaded it okay. WOW. I've only ever heard the Tommy LP and this is WHOA NELLY!!! I can't believe my ears. Do you have a list of which songs came from which albums? Just a comment on the thin Doors - isn't it possible that the thin live sound is due to the recording quality? I mean, if you listen to '74 Dead, it's thin, but only because of the limitations imposed by the WoS rig, inasmuch as recording the music is concerned. There's no question that in person, the Wall of Sound was much fuller than what we got on tape. There is, of course, no substitute for a bass guitar in rock n roll, but if bass pedals and bassy low end organ is being played at the live Doors gigs, I imagine their sound would have been rich enough in person. But I'm guessing. I've never seen the Doors or heard a live record. Thin, I was not offended by anything you wrote, but commend your handling of the situation in subsequent posts. You are an officer and a gentleman. or was it a gentleman and a scholar? Laurie Partridge might be the most beautiful brunette of the 70s. The blue eyes, the bell-bottom jeans, the plaid button down shirts, the feathered hair style (did I miss any 70s attributes?) Oh yeah, I was reminded of the bra-less nipples through the t-shirt look, and the hairy armpits.
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I hardly ever listen to The Doors (anymore). That being said, I think L.A. Woman is up there in the pantheon of great studio albums. It's not Blonde on Blonde or Abbey Road, etc., but it is solid and definitely worth a listen.I think it is their studio album that has the most chance of appealing to a music-lover that does not otherwise consider themselves a Doors fan. Really looking forward to DaP 26! Still kind of wondering why they didn't go 12/14 and 12/15/71 (so as to get a Dark Star and that Lovelight medley on 12/15 - also back to back nights). But I hope it's because 11/17 was just too darn smoking and too much of a sonic upgrade to pass on.
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..purportedly made the brown acid at Woodstock. I guess that explains those freaky eye shades he was always wearing on tour. It's a toss up. Checking the weather in Vancouver.. perfect windy weather to record the box set release video... That Bolo video reminds me of the beginning of Close Encounters of the Third Kind..
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I had forgotten about the old supposed split in ideology between San Francisco bands and L.A ones. I always assumed THAT was BS-but thinking about it, maybe in the mid 60s the bands from LA made better records, but the bands from SF were better live. LA bands like The Doors, Buffalo Springfield, The Byrds, Love-all made brilliant records in 1966-67-but all were apparently less impressive live. With SF bands the reverse may have been true. Although Electric Music For The Mind and Body by Country Joe and the Fish was a classic. And After Bathing At Baxters was good, too. So maybe what I am saying is BS.
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I have some Doors concert recordings, will have to go back and check if they sound ‘thin’. Doors had a keyboard player who faked bass. Rush has a bass player who fakes keyboards. I like both Doors and Rush. But I like Grateful Dead best!!!!!
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Gotta transport those rockets somehow...
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Rockets are too big for the trunk. But what about Love and Rockets?
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...are so alive. They pretty much power themselves.
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Daddy's home
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Daddy's drunk. Again.
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Moe’s was having 3-for-1 specials all night long.
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By the end of the 60s, Sly and the Family Stone, Santana, Steve Miller Band, Creedence made GREAT music in the studio, much of it equal to or surpassing that of the popular L.A. bands. And where does the brilliance of the Mothers figure in this comparison? Great, original, loved and reviled....
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....(cue Obi-Wan). "Now that's a name I have not heard in a long, long time."
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finally listened to Wake of the Flood all the way through since it came to my house in the Beyond Description box set. and I haven't listened to a studio album in a long while. "we need a box set announcement now! YOU'RE ALL A BUNCH OF FUCKING ANIMALS!"
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....what are ya gonna do about it! What are ya gonna do about it! What are ya gonna do about it!." Morrisons rants aren't like Pigpens, but they get the point across....box set please?Welcome Terrapin Moon. I like your style.
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....your plane is crashing into the waters off some uninhabited island. You have a crate of every Who song ever recorded. You also have a crate of every Doors song ever recorded. Which one do you attach the parachute to? Answer wisely. Doors. (this is an unbiased poll. No "but I have a cargo ship of every Dead song ever recorded" answers.) I admit. It was a tough call for me ;)
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it's the only thing I know about him. Animals was my second real pink Floyd album (I won't count Echoes). I special ordered it at a record store in February '02. there's nothing that can replace special ordering an album at a record store and picking it up
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Have to go back to 23 and then all the way to 19 for a similar result. Topical and inspiring. More of same for awhile please!
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I think id take the doors and I don't even listen to the doors. I have a bit the who I just don't listen to em anymore and I think I like Who's Next out of what I have. but all this Doors talk is making me think of that Kids In The Hall skit about being a Doors fan
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LOVE Animals, my favorite Floyd album.Love Echoes too. By the way, which one’s Pink? I’ll jump out of the plane with The Who collection. Alternatively, I’ll throw both collections out of the plane and maybe the plane will keep flying until I reach my destination on the deserted island of Club Dead.
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Thanks for the help with the Janis folks.:o)
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unpopular request but, i'm hoping for some spring '92 to get released at some point. could make for a nice mini box.
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Bolo's back on the bacon. Or mayhaps not. Seems it could go either way.
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...charade you are.
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I always thought Roger Daltreys scream towards the end of this song was copped from Jim Morrisons in When The Musics Over. Not a bad thing-its one of the best Who records.
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7-27-73 2 CDs7-28-73 4 CDs 7-xx-73 1 CD Seven 7’s in the dates, and 7 CDs in the Box.
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The Ice Cream Kid makes a valid point, 1973? I suspect 1973 represents a large portion of the newly returned tapes and it fits with recent focus on returned reels. I was going through my collection this morning. The shows directly after Pig's passing (3/8/73) are the Spring '73 Nassau Coliseum shows. Excellent shows btw. 03/15/73- Nassau Coliseum - Uniondale, NY 03/16/73- Nassau Coliseum - Uniondale, NY 03/19/73- Nassau Coliseum - Uniondale, NY I went to add up the # of discs it would take, etc. and realized my 3/19/73 started with the last song of the first set, Playing in the Band. The soundboards for the first set were incomplete when I pulled this down from the archive all those years ago. Then I looked back out at the archive and sure enough.. there is a new Miller seed that has the complete show. It was added less than a month ago, on March 11th, 2018. Big Man, Pig Man (no Pig Man). HaHa.. Charade You Are. When Dave's Picks 13, 2/24/1974 was released.. on the release video (the one where he narrowly avoided being mauled by the group of bad tempered, LA sound grooving, rabid seals) Dave said this should have been released a long time ago but it was overlooked, because... "it was just too obvious." 1973 is just too obvious. I still think it's a Summer '73 Box, but Spring seems to fit the clues a touch better. The closer we get to nailing this, the more likely Dave will be to dust off his log rolling shoes and drag himself out on the rocky beach to dodge surly sea lions and record for us a release video.
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