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    "We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

    We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

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  • LedDed
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    That's pretty funny... I know a lot of Phish fans here. I think Trey meant well. Just feel that with the slower tempos and all the rust, a little bit more oomph! in the lead guitar department would have been very much welcomed.
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    ... but if there was a yellow box ...
    ... it would be so immoral and inappropriate for anyone to even think about buying it ... seriously, if some malevolent bootlegger produced a box with 7 shows from 1971, 7 shows that were on FM radio, that could do incredible financial damage to the Grateful Dead ... with the plethora of official releases notwithstanding, and with Dave's Picks looking ahead to 50 and beyond, it is beyond comprehension how any fan could be so selfish, so tasteless, so dismissive of the financial impact on the Grateful Dead operation, to give one red cent to the villainous bootlegger maliciously cutting in on the Dead's profits without regard to the serious financial strain Bob Weir and Phil Lesh, Mickey Hart and Bill Kreutzmann, and their poor suffering starving families would have to endure from the manifestation of such evil! For the love of God and everything Holy! Please, please I say! Do not force Bob Weir to open a SNAP account, to auction his meager possessions, as a result of the damned thievery that such a yellow box would verily represent. Oh lord have I seen the light! Here's looking ahead to Dave's 26! To 11 17 71 and 12 14 71! Hallelujah!
  • stoltzfus
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    maybe they send packages by rowboat
    glad it made it to Europe.
  • stoltzfus
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    another 83 that flies under the radar
    10/31/83 It has the dread "special guests" (Airto and Flora Purim...not a fan of guest artists with the GD), but it's a fine show nonetheless.
  • Sydney Prentice
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    Just got mine today in Blighty, number 1003, usual snail mail delivery for us Europeans!
  • Thin
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    Jim - It may have been Phil's strong opinion to go with Trey, but I can't imagine there was too much debate over that. Billy was adamantly against John Kadlecik (JK) who was an obvious candidate having just spent 5 years playing with Phil and Bob in Furthur - Fare Thee Well with JK would have been head and shoulders above Trey's performance, musically. But Billy publicly dissed Furthur/JK multiple times as just a tribute band, aping Jerry. So that would have ruled out other Jerry clones like DSO's guy, or some of San Fran area guys who seem like Jerry clones, right down to the guitar. Does anyone know who else they considered besides Trey? I can't recall. Space, your talking about 10/21/83, not 10/23. Great show - I also love the Big RxR Blues on 10/15/83 in Hartford. I guess it was a big month for Big RxR... (we may have had this conversation before - having deja vu). 1983 has always impressed me musically - seems to have a little more energy or ferocity than '82 and '84 to my ears (listening to the few shows I have). I used to have 4/13/83 in Vermont on cassette - nice Scar>Fire and many other highlights including what was at one point my only copy of Brother Esau. I'm only now realizing I never picked that one up digitally.... [edit: I put on 10/15/83 Big RxR while typing that comment. Whoever mentioned that the kick-drum is distracting in the early 80's recordings, I can totally hear it on 10/15/83. Especially at the beginning of Chinacat the kick drum is distracting, volume well-above the rest of the drums and left channel ONLY. Bump bump.... bump bump.... bump bump.... make it stop! Sounds like my neighbor hitting my wall with a tennis ball in time with the beat (I may have used that descriptor before, but its apt). Maybe 80's are best listened to on a stereo, not headphones, just to smooth out the mix?]
  • dessi831
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    I was surprised they went with Trey. I was so proud for him when I heard the news though. What an honor to be asked to play that role in that band, fucking mind blowing! He's a busy dude with his own career who had to put everything on halt to learn 30-50 tunes proper and get in the minds of these guys to speak their musical language as far as jamming goes. I haven't bothered to buy/watch/listen to these shows, aside from a few YouTube clips, out of fear that it would be a train wreck. I love both the GD and Trey (Phish) so much but the two worlds colliding almost seemed too much. Nobody can be Jerry..everyone knows that. So, i think they wanted an original voice who lived the same spirit the Grateful Dead had envisioned. One day I'll sit down and listen to them proper. John Mayer said it was good.
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    10/21/83...not 10/23/83
    That's what I mean't. Thanks. 10/14/83 Hartford has that nice hour long sequence of Scarlet>Fire and Estimated>Eye's on disc 2 from Dicks Picks Vol. 6. I've never checked out 10/15/83 before. Quick glance at that setlist and, oh my. I see I still have much to discover from '83. Even as a proponant of releases from this general era, '83 has been all too neglected from my own listening. They even pulled out a St. Stephen at that 10/15/83 show. Nice. The second to last. Bummer they dropped that song from the setlists 10 months prior my first show in '84. Actually just pulled 10/15/83 up now. Went straight to the St. Stephen, and this has just instantly become my new show request for a Dave's Pick. Apparently I don't browse the Archive as much as I should. Thanks for the suggestion! The crowd reaction on the audience source says it all. https://archive.org/details/gd83-10-15.beyer-ficca-brennan.ficca.20024…
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    I attended the 2 Santa Clara FTW shows, and really enjoyed it at the time. Upon repeated listening I still think those two days had songs and moments that definitely made it worth it and interesting to have Trey. Would've been great if they did more than 5 shows though. I understand that if one doesn't like trey, then I guess one wouldn't be happy about him being chosen, as he isn't not going to sound like trey. Though I personally think saying trey was the worst choice is a little exaggerated, as he certainly was more qualified than some others. I really enjoy John K, would've loved to see Steve Kimock up there, and I felt/feel strongly that Tom Constanten and Donna should've been there also. Besides those fine musicians, it would've ben great to see Howard Wales, Ned Lagin, or Melvin Seals guest on a number or two. The only musician they might've considered that would've been sort of a bummer for me was/is Warren Haynes.
  • stoltzfus
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    more on 83
    6/18!!!!!!!!!!!!6/22 no complaints from me if an 83 becomes a Daves I'll never forget how much I got off on 10/15/83, listening on a road trip to Eugene to attend a Further show.
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"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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Incredible clip of Tom Waits singing Rain Dogs. I haven't come across anyone else in music who approaches things quite like he does. Hats off- a true original.
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....I sense another Partridge Family / Brady Bunch debate forthcoming.
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Who had the better Consigliere? Mr. Kincaid? or Alice The Maid? I wonder who Jerry liked or disliked more?
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No debate there, man. The Partridge Family all the way. They had instruments that they almost played. And a quasi-psychedelic bus. And Reuben Kincaid! Those Bradys were just a canned act. Cue audience applause -- now!
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Yeah but I sill love Marcia, Marcia, Marcia!
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I'm with you there. Though Laurie Partridge held her own. At least until Charlie's Angels came along.
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Here is the live Tommy mp3 I spoke of yesterday or the day before, but forgot to post. A good friend reminded me. This is most of Tommy. I omitted Fiddle About, Cousin Kevin, and I think Tommy's Holiday Camp (Keith Moon would throw a FIT!) This is comprised of the best versions from Live at Leeds, Isle of Wight 1970, and Woodstock (Live at Hull had not been released yet). I think I doubled up on Sparks for very good reasons. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1gvnDVUzNQyjrs9XpNzKqkhGazTbb9cJI Let me know if it's properly accessible. For you audiophiles it went like this: CD => WAV => mp3 (320kbps); so while technically lossy, the word I've heard (read actually), is that the loss at 320kbps is in frequency ranges out of our hearing capability and metadata. When it came time to rip my Dead library digitally, I took the Pepsi Challenge on headphones and the big stereo, and Icannot distinguish between WAV and 320kbps mp3. Unfortunately, the Tommy WAV is MIA, sorry about that. Size = 101MB
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...as in, "Knockin' On Heaven's"... Sounds like ol' Jer might be figuring out how to plug in his MIDI from beyond the pearly gates! Either that or the "Space" from 7/8/78 that I broadcast into the universe from SETI's Allen Telescope Array a few years back is finally being acknowledged/answered by our alien brothers and sisters!
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Manzarek might have once asked Pigpen if he could use his organ and Pigpen didn't know this guy from Adam and refused him. From that you get what reads much like an over-wrought, heavily embroidered "story" about the GD from some skinny griper from LA. As a writer, it sounds like one or two molecules of memory and 99% BS larded on because poor little Ray's sensibilities were offended. Early '67 and a giant "support system" of blah blah blah? Sounds more like little Ray was intimidated by the general scene. Please pardon me, folks: F*** Ray Manzarek and his tight-ass LA BS.
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KeithFan I downloaded it okay. WOW. I've only ever heard the Tommy LP and this is WHOA NELLY!!! I can't believe my ears. Do you have a list of which songs came from which albums? Just a comment on the thin Doors - isn't it possible that the thin live sound is due to the recording quality? I mean, if you listen to '74 Dead, it's thin, but only because of the limitations imposed by the WoS rig, inasmuch as recording the music is concerned. There's no question that in person, the Wall of Sound was much fuller than what we got on tape. There is, of course, no substitute for a bass guitar in rock n roll, but if bass pedals and bassy low end organ is being played at the live Doors gigs, I imagine their sound would have been rich enough in person. But I'm guessing. I've never seen the Doors or heard a live record. Thin, I was not offended by anything you wrote, but commend your handling of the situation in subsequent posts. You are an officer and a gentleman. or was it a gentleman and a scholar? Laurie Partridge might be the most beautiful brunette of the 70s. The blue eyes, the bell-bottom jeans, the plaid button down shirts, the feathered hair style (did I miss any 70s attributes?) Oh yeah, I was reminded of the bra-less nipples through the t-shirt look, and the hairy armpits.
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I hardly ever listen to The Doors (anymore). That being said, I think L.A. Woman is up there in the pantheon of great studio albums. It's not Blonde on Blonde or Abbey Road, etc., but it is solid and definitely worth a listen.I think it is their studio album that has the most chance of appealing to a music-lover that does not otherwise consider themselves a Doors fan. Really looking forward to DaP 26! Still kind of wondering why they didn't go 12/14 and 12/15/71 (so as to get a Dark Star and that Lovelight medley on 12/15 - also back to back nights). But I hope it's because 11/17 was just too darn smoking and too much of a sonic upgrade to pass on.
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..purportedly made the brown acid at Woodstock. I guess that explains those freaky eye shades he was always wearing on tour. It's a toss up. Checking the weather in Vancouver.. perfect windy weather to record the box set release video... That Bolo video reminds me of the beginning of Close Encounters of the Third Kind..
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I had forgotten about the old supposed split in ideology between San Francisco bands and L.A ones. I always assumed THAT was BS-but thinking about it, maybe in the mid 60s the bands from LA made better records, but the bands from SF were better live. LA bands like The Doors, Buffalo Springfield, The Byrds, Love-all made brilliant records in 1966-67-but all were apparently less impressive live. With SF bands the reverse may have been true. Although Electric Music For The Mind and Body by Country Joe and the Fish was a classic. And After Bathing At Baxters was good, too. So maybe what I am saying is BS.
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I have some Doors concert recordings, will have to go back and check if they sound ‘thin’. Doors had a keyboard player who faked bass. Rush has a bass player who fakes keyboards. I like both Doors and Rush. But I like Grateful Dead best!!!!!
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Gotta transport those rockets somehow...
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Rockets are too big for the trunk. But what about Love and Rockets?
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...are so alive. They pretty much power themselves.
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Daddy's home
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Daddy's drunk. Again.
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Moe’s was having 3-for-1 specials all night long.
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By the end of the 60s, Sly and the Family Stone, Santana, Steve Miller Band, Creedence made GREAT music in the studio, much of it equal to or surpassing that of the popular L.A. bands. And where does the brilliance of the Mothers figure in this comparison? Great, original, loved and reviled....
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....(cue Obi-Wan). "Now that's a name I have not heard in a long, long time."
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finally listened to Wake of the Flood all the way through since it came to my house in the Beyond Description box set. and I haven't listened to a studio album in a long while. "we need a box set announcement now! YOU'RE ALL A BUNCH OF FUCKING ANIMALS!"
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....what are ya gonna do about it! What are ya gonna do about it! What are ya gonna do about it!." Morrisons rants aren't like Pigpens, but they get the point across....box set please?Welcome Terrapin Moon. I like your style.
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....your plane is crashing into the waters off some uninhabited island. You have a crate of every Who song ever recorded. You also have a crate of every Doors song ever recorded. Which one do you attach the parachute to? Answer wisely. Doors. (this is an unbiased poll. No "but I have a cargo ship of every Dead song ever recorded" answers.) I admit. It was a tough call for me ;)
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it's the only thing I know about him. Animals was my second real pink Floyd album (I won't count Echoes). I special ordered it at a record store in February '02. there's nothing that can replace special ordering an album at a record store and picking it up
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Have to go back to 23 and then all the way to 19 for a similar result. Topical and inspiring. More of same for awhile please!
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I think id take the doors and I don't even listen to the doors. I have a bit the who I just don't listen to em anymore and I think I like Who's Next out of what I have. but all this Doors talk is making me think of that Kids In The Hall skit about being a Doors fan
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LOVE Animals, my favorite Floyd album.Love Echoes too. By the way, which one’s Pink? I’ll jump out of the plane with The Who collection. Alternatively, I’ll throw both collections out of the plane and maybe the plane will keep flying until I reach my destination on the deserted island of Club Dead.
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Thanks for the help with the Janis folks.:o)
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unpopular request but, i'm hoping for some spring '92 to get released at some point. could make for a nice mini box.
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Bolo's back on the bacon. Or mayhaps not. Seems it could go either way.
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...charade you are.
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I always thought Roger Daltreys scream towards the end of this song was copped from Jim Morrisons in When The Musics Over. Not a bad thing-its one of the best Who records.
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7-27-73 2 CDs7-28-73 4 CDs 7-xx-73 1 CD Seven 7’s in the dates, and 7 CDs in the Box.
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The Ice Cream Kid makes a valid point, 1973? I suspect 1973 represents a large portion of the newly returned tapes and it fits with recent focus on returned reels. I was going through my collection this morning. The shows directly after Pig's passing (3/8/73) are the Spring '73 Nassau Coliseum shows. Excellent shows btw. 03/15/73- Nassau Coliseum - Uniondale, NY 03/16/73- Nassau Coliseum - Uniondale, NY 03/19/73- Nassau Coliseum - Uniondale, NY I went to add up the # of discs it would take, etc. and realized my 3/19/73 started with the last song of the first set, Playing in the Band. The soundboards for the first set were incomplete when I pulled this down from the archive all those years ago. Then I looked back out at the archive and sure enough.. there is a new Miller seed that has the complete show. It was added less than a month ago, on March 11th, 2018. Big Man, Pig Man (no Pig Man). HaHa.. Charade You Are. When Dave's Picks 13, 2/24/1974 was released.. on the release video (the one where he narrowly avoided being mauled by the group of bad tempered, LA sound grooving, rabid seals) Dave said this should have been released a long time ago but it was overlooked, because... "it was just too obvious." 1973 is just too obvious. I still think it's a Summer '73 Box, but Spring seems to fit the clues a touch better. The closer we get to nailing this, the more likely Dave will be to dust off his log rolling shoes and drag himself out on the rocky beach to dodge surly sea lions and record for us a release video.
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