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    "We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

    We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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  • Mind-Left-Body
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    I was surprised someone mentioned this show shouldn't have been released due to poor audio. It sounds the same to me as all of the Dick's Picks era '74 WOS shows (DP 7, DP 12, DP 31). Road Trips WOS 1974 sounds a little better, but DaP 2 is right back to the lower quality. I think DaP 13 and DaP 17 sound a bit better (but technically DaP 13 is not WOS, and wasn't subject to the recording pitfalls incumbent with the Wall recording rig). Anyway, I just put DP 24 on, and it's not bad. Trust me on one thing, I did NOT like 1974 for many years, because of the generally poor audio quality, but I forced myself to listen, and eventually I became used to it. The show from DP 24 (Cow Palace) has a great set list, and that classic Playing in the Band UJB Morning Dew sandwich. Plus if you turn up the 4K band on the EQ during Scarlet Begonias Jerry's guitar sounds like Keith Richard in open D tuning. Looking forward to DaP 25. I hope this bass thing isn't as prominent as on 24. I hate to say it, but it ruined the release for me. Sorry Mr. Norman, you have my deepest respect and appreciation for your body of work, I just hear too much artificial bass tones at Berkeley. I'm not crazy about the art work. Too much red, and even I'm tiring if the skeletons. Why not have dancing bears on this one instead? Last 5: Dick's Picks 16 Dave's Picks 22 May 1977 4th Show 5/15/77 July 1978 4th Show 7/7/78 Crimson White & Indigo 7/7/89 (this is hands down the best show from 89/90). Now I have on DP 24.
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    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0794SPYLK/?tag=imwan-20 Gentlepeople, pontificate.
  • Charlie3
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    Currently listening to Sticks by Chris Joss - mostly instrumental, cool grooves, discovered when it was background music in Better Call Saul when Mike scoped out the Kettlemens. Last 5 - Grateful Dead - 2/22/69 Dream Bowl show from 30TATS, Jerry Garcia - Reflections, Jerry Garcia - Compliments, Supreme Beings Of Leisure - Supreme Beings of Leisure, Allman Brothers Band - The 1971 Fillmore East Recordings.
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    Road trips is vast and awesome. I believe, officially it's like 15 volumes. For anyone not minding iTunes downloads, the whole set is available for around $250. I certainly purchase music from apple, amazon, and dead.net, however I try to spread it around. The annual Record Store Day is a great way to bring awareness to your local record shop. There aren't nearly as many as there used to be. The experience of walking into a store and browsing product can be enjoyable, and if you make a purchase you take possession immediately not having to wait on the mails. Currently playing: a magnificent "The Eleven," Dick's Picks #26, 4/26/69 Minneapolis.
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    jackstrawberry - not sure if you are aware, but the Road Trips series is being re-released on CD by Real Gone Music starting with the last releases first. So far Vol. 4 #5 Boston Music Hall 6/9/76 and Vol. 4 #4, Philadelphia, Spectrum 4/6/82 are available and Vol. 4 #3, Denver '73 will be available on February 2. I missed a few of the Road Trips and am looking forward to picking them up for a decent price. Given the weak packaging on the Road Trips series I am considering picking up another copy of some that I already have. They are available on ebay and Amazon for between $40-$50 each. I am particularly eager to pick up the 5/15/70 show on Vol. 3 #3.
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    There’s a few of them in the movie Tie-Dyed. And they’re not even the most extreme. Yeah, those were good times......really miss them. D&C is not even a faint approximation of what it was like. FTW had really good vibes, but still.... THERE IS NOTHING LIKE A GRATEFUL DEAD CONCERT!!!!!!!
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    ....that there are recordings at all. The Dead are head and shoulders, king of the hill leaders of the audio documentation of their career, as it should be. That didn't happen by chance. The Women (and men) are indeed smarter....I talk to younger (sic) people and try and lure them in with that fact. A sad few pass it off as idolism. But most respond with a "that's cool as shit!" And the seed is sown. I'm responsible for getting at least eight people in my lifetime to jump onto the bus. Get some!!!....I hung out with some Hari Krishnas during the Cal-State Dominguez Hills shows in '90. They love their rice. I did too. Even shook a tambourine for an hour or so. No regrets....it's not easy making good rice
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    http://goodtimes.sc/cover-stories/500-grateful-dead-shows/ Local comic DNA reflects on his years spent following the Dead BYDNAPOSTED ON JANUARY 2, 2018 On a Grateful Dead tour, you met the best people on Earth. People from all walks of life were drawn to shows like Richard Dreyfus was drawn to the Devil’s Tower in Close Encounters of the Third Kind. But there were also narcs, feds, drug addicts, clinically insane misfits and jerks. There was a series of “religious” groups, like the Golden Roaders, selling backless dresses and Sufi spinning at shows. Then there were the Moonies, although I only saw them at shows in the Northeast, who were aggressive and deceptive, selling lame stickers and incense. The Krishnas gave out free rice, but they also played their freaking tambourines and drums at sunrise to greet the day! Not a good group to camp next to. From Scientologists to evangelical Christians to mini-messiahs that paraded around in full regalia (mostly a robe, a loin cloth and a conch full of burning sage) there was no shortage of wackadoodles to join up with or be abducted by. I know that I and hundreds (or at least dozens) of other Deadheads took it upon ourselves to be the ones to “look out” for the weaker ones as the scene grew exponentially and then collapsed upon itself. I am grateful for my time in that world and recently I reflected on that journey. At least the parts I could remember.
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    Thanks, alvarhanso and Jim, I guess I totally overlooked the fact that there could be more than one SBD recording of a show. That's a bit of a mind bender. Not sure why that never occurred to me be before. I guess I always heard moans about how expensive the tape was so I just figured it was a one-shot deal. As a side note, anybody know of any "authoritative" list for who recorded what shows for the GOGD? I've looked in Deadbase but the thing is like a million pages and it may have gone unnoticed. Regarding the Bear recording(s), I agree that's a bit of a head scratcher. I guess they wouldn't necessarily have come from the Betty Boxes. Mountain Girl had some stuff that was returned too so perhaps it was tied up in there? I do agree that the stuff from Rex likely was likely part of Betty's stash. There's probably some more scholarships to do around ABCD Enterprises (I admittedly know very little about this). It might be a catch-all for all of the returned boards from various sources. There are four letters... And the posters are inspiring me to check out those Frost and Greek shows. Those are officially on the todo list...
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    All of the talk about eras and such brought up some memories for me about the tapes I had back when that was the way everyone got to hear shows. In getting those tapes, I had collected a variety of shows from many eras, but most were from the 60s and 70s. I was told by other seasoned heads at the time that although they loved the Grateful Dead the best shows were from “back in the day”. I discovered early on that “back in the day” meant different things to different people. In any case my listening habits were shaped by the tapes I got. So I will say that I may have been one to listen to select eras as a result of this for quite some time. Fast forward to the present and I feel like I have expanded my horizons as I have done more listening homework. However even with that there is so much I don’t know. For example, I really never delved into 1982 shows. I recently acquired the Road Trips from 4/6/82, and that is a tremendous release. Earlier on in the comments many referenced several 1982 shows that I had never heard (Frost 10/10 was one and a Greek show 5/23, I believe was another). Well while at work, I jumped on the archive and found them, played them, loved them. Conversely, several have mentioned shows from 1972- 7/26 & 8/12. Now I felt like I had a way better handle on 1972, but I listened to those as well. Great stuff of course and again I discovered something new. My point from this is that I ma not really sure how exactly to define Grateful Dead eras, but when someone on these pages recommends a show or shows I check them out, regardless of era or year. Just important when it comes to releases, I only have 3 pieces of criteria: good show, good sound quality, and hopefully it is a complete show if possible. This also reminds me of the discussions that were had when the Rocking the Cradle was released. One of the arguments against its release was that although the venue of the Pyramids and Giza was about as cool as it could be, the playing was not up to par. I am not intending to stir a debate but simply that even for then, this was not a show that was widely desired for release while others were desired and also in the vault. So as we wait on the box set announcement and the eventual Dave’s 27 and 28, I just hope that they continue to be good shows in good sound quality. I do know that a good show is subjective not only to the listener but also to the time frame (or era). Still as long the releases meet the criteria I think we are all going to be better off as there is so much more great music by this band left to be released. I am enjoying the ride for sure.
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"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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from tying Ray Manzarek to the railroad tracks, where Little Nell will keep him company until the 4:10 from Yuma passes through... heh heh heh. "Pig, no Pig"? The plot thickens. Or Bolo just dropped a hambone into the chile con carne. First, bacon, then what? Tofu? That'd be the difference between 1971 and 1976. Gotta believe, based on 18+ months of uninterrupted ABCD Enterprises-related releases, that such a credit will roll again in the 2018 box, so that "narrows it down" to 1971-1980, right? We may well have covered the 2-3 strongest possibilities -- Pig-centric box from the sweet spot years, Summer '73 for reasons previously stated, or Spring '73 on the Pig-No Pig "clue." If we've nailed it somehow, Bolo's visits to the forum now are solely intended to turn on the fog machine and roil the speculation. Which is a job he seems to relish, and, he's damn good at it...
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I thought it made more sense as sort of Remembering Pig or equiv.. Yes.. nice call 4(20)wb.
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So a long-tail Bolo clue that first plants Pig, then no Pig, and we may have a wiener: March '73, three nights? If it ain't Pigpen himself, it bett-uh be '73. Or Ray Manzarek and Little Nell are going to pieces...
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My very first show. NRPS opened. Great, great memories of my first exposure to what IT was all about. I would love to see a Spring ‘73 release as a box. Bring it on Dave! Rock on
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Ok, I give up! What is making that bass like sound in that recording? The keyboard guy is great, guitar man is great, but I've never like what he plays (more or less),,, sometimes people with incredible skill can bore the shit out of me with their technical proficiency. Also, the Partridge family had Shirley Jones, who looked damn good to this 13 year old back then.
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Dennis: It's the B-3! It is all in the foot pedals:
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I didn't realize that guy was playing a B3, went back and watched more of the video and yes I saw the pedals. The pedal demo was nice. I always thought if you could play one thing, make it the organ. You can be a one man band. I knew an old woman years ago who played a B3, had top of line in her house with a leslie cabinet. Said her dead husband got it for her a a wedding gift! (maybe her playing was such, that the husband wasn't dead, just hiding!) Anyway, she had tickets for a organ demo one time that she couldn't attend and gave me the tickets. This guy was the "company" rep for the organ he was hawking and went all over showing what "their" organ could do. (is that a zappa line?) This thing was very electric/computer driven. He could make any instrument sound, the organ itself would play lines for you, like setting up a drum sequence or a guitar/horn section. And of course the guy was a MASTER of his instrument. I was shocked recently when I looked up the price of a B3,,, they seem to be around 50K! Guess I will not be getting one this Christmas :-( (hell they're pricey enough that Jeff Chimenti had to borrow Brent's unit :-)) (borrowing Brent's unit,,,, is that a zappa line also?)
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Brent's B3 is not on loan...it was gifted to Jeff from the band...think about the level of that endorsement of talent and humanity! They also share a birthday...and came from Bobby's band originally...Weir'd... Edit: Don't know source of that but I remember I read the gifting in an article many moons ago...if I'm wrong, it's not the first time...and it seems to happen more with every passing decade! :) I believe, he's been playing it since '98 or so with Ratdog.
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Wowwie.. 50k, that's like two or three upcoming box sets and Dave's Picks subscriptions here at dead.net. I think I would like to borrow Brent's as well. It's a good thing I have a truck and know the combo to their digs at Club Front. Sorry Jeff... but I'm not forgoing the next few box sets.. besides, I think that's what Brent always wanted.. for me to learn how to play the B3. Edit: Looks like my post contradicts direwulf's. I stand behind my words, it's what Brent always wanted. ..but man, Jeff can really make that thing sing. Perhaps I will have second thoughts.
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The Tommy track is great. Doesn't sound like a mix. You somehow blended the crowd noise in with the music just exactly perfect. Volume is very consistent from song to song too. Are these all from the Tommy tour? They're clearly all Moon, but I'm curious if they span the entire 70s.
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Minus, the breakdown is as follows (these are all official / engineered / produced releases): Overature - Live at Leeds It's a Boy - Live at Leeds 1921 - Live at Leeds Amazing Journey - Live at Leeds Jam (starts at 11:30) - Isle of Wight 1970 2nd Jam into Sparks(crossfades in at 13:35) - Woodstock (taken from 30 Years Maximum R&B) The Acid Queen - Isle of Wight 1970 Pinball Wizard - Woodstock (taken from The Kids Are Alright) Go To The Mirror - Isle of Wight 1970 Smash The Mirror - Isle of Wight 1970 I'm Free - Live at Leeds Sally Simpson - Live at Leeds We're Not Gonna Take It - Isle of Wight 1970 See Me Feel Me - Woodstock (Taken from The Kids Are Alright) Woodstock was August '69, Leeds was February '70, and Wight was August '70. There wasn't a Tommy Tour per se. There were several European and US Tours in 1969 / 1970 where Tommy was gradually worked into the set lists. The first near-complete performance was early '69, maybe March; the last near-complete performance was September '70. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1gvnDVUzNQyjrs9XpNzKqkhGazTbb9cJI
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Here is another great example of competent bass playing from the B-3: Tune in at the 7:00 minute mark or so for the "bass" solo!
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Wadeocu - thanks for posting that. I had never really seen a full B3 with the footpedals (that I recall) until 3 months ago when I started seeing the B3 Kings in Boston on a regular basis. The guy recentlydid a two-footed bass solo.... was funny to watch him chugging away like he was on an exercise bike, hands free. Bostonians - B3 Kings will be doing a bass-less (B3 player plays bass with feet/left hand) show in Needham tomorrow (Thurs) night at Three Squares restaurant 7-10pm. In the below video of this band, you can clearly see organist playing bass notes with his left hand at the end of the keyboard on this song - I've seen him play bass melody with left hand while thumping the root note on the footpedals: https://youtu.be/1bwu3skpB48
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That beer on his B-3 makes me nervous though in light of Dennis' revelation on what one costs!
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Is it possible to play the "lead" guitar, ie. guitar solos while singing? I've been wondering, did Bobby and Jerry switch off on who played the solos when Jerry was singing? If so was it for the whole song, or just immediately while Jerry was singing and then back to the usual roles?
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Let's get back to the Grateful Dead's Dave's Picks 26.The remainder of the limited edition of DaP 26 goes on sale Monday 16 April 2018 @ 10:00 AM Pacific Time. It will sell out fast, I guessing about 48 minutes or less. If I recall correctly (and it's probably on this long thread) DaP 25 sold out in about 48 minutes. With the promotional email DaP 26 announcing this "event" it could sell out in about 30 minutes or less. This "event" could crash the system similar to 2017's Get Shown The Light box disaster. But that got fixed and this "event" could another test to see if preventative measures work. The bonus disc WILL NOT be included in this sale, as it was only for the 2018 Dave's Picks subscription.
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Right.. I hope it was a very expensive, small batch craft beer or a Chimay or something.. If you're going to risk a $50k organ slugging down some beer, the grains had better be stomped on by foot by hippie monks in Belgium and hopefully blessed by the pope himself. If you act quick.. I found what appears to be a steal on a new B3, only $26k. While supplies last :D (I ordered three). http://www.b3guys.com/Hammond+B-3+mk2+Organ+and+Hammond+C-3+mk2+Organ.h… I think what makes these expensive is the cabinets with the rotating, Leslie speakers that I believe are powered by individual tube amps. Brent's standard setup had ten wonderfully modified Leslie speakers.. What a powerhouse.. For the full effect, I recommend listening to the Gimme Some Lovin' from 11/1/85 turned up to 11 (starts about 2:08 in) or just crank up Dicks Picks 21. Phil, "LOVE YAA!!" Trouble Ahead, Jerry in Red.
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Wadeocu - Yes, the beer on top surprised me too - always does. Last time I saw them the bass players headstock was floating 4 inches from his beer - we couldn't stop watching the headstock! :0 Jim - The guy told me the keyboard console AND the leslie cabinet have 6-8 tubes EACH, thus the warm tone. I thought he said you could get a decent used B3 for $5,000 but perhaps I misheard him? Prices are high because these are very large, heavy items with TONS of hand-wired point-to-point connections. The guy showed me the inside of his organ and it was a spaghetti maze of tubes and wires. A simple hand-wired guitar amp is $1,500~ so a price tag well above $5,000 seems reasonable, actually. The guy also told me he has three (3!) of these Hammond B3's! (His backup one night said the same thing!). One in his practice space, one in the gig-van/garage, and the one in the shop, because they're often in for regular tune-ups, blown tubes, buzzing, humming, etc. How do musicians afford this stuff?
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Wondering if 11/17/71 is from returned Betty boards. I'm thinking that the two Ann Arbor shows should have been packaged together for this one, instead of soley as bonus material.
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To these ears, Gregg Allman and Jon Lord were two of the best on the organ. Stevie Ray Vaughan was known for running his guitar amplifier through a rotating Leslie cabinet for those churning organ-like sounds. Current listen: Go To Nassau, 5/15 - 16, 1980. Garcia full of energy and Brent being new was great on keys and not overbearing vocally. I know it's a composite and the purists will winge, but what a great album.
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The only source for 11-17 is a SBD>FM>MC>C>D>CD so it looks like it is a returned Betty Board. This will be a huge upgrade.
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I believe the answer is yes.. these are returned tapes. The reason I think so is that Dave mentioned they are a substantial improvement in sound quality to those that previously circulated. A toast to the best of times to be a fan of the GD.
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A tip of the glass to Melvin Seals too. The guy loved his gospel music and could play the hell out of his B3. When he achieved lift off, true religion was free for the taking... Sorry 4winds.. looks like we had the same answer at about the same time to space's question.
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Did Dave ever say how much of 12-14 will be included with the release of 11-17 because 11-17 looks like it's only two disc show.
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....tonight is game 1 of the Stanley Cup Playoffs. Vegas Golden Knights vs the LA Queens. GO KNIGHTS GO!!! that is all....
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Both shows in their entirety, if you have the Bonus Disc. https://www.jambase.com/article/daves-picks-vol-26-features-two-gratefu… I think Road Trips 11-15-71 is the best sounding 2 track release from the pre-hiatus years. I'm hoping 11-17 is the same (12-6 & 12-7 weren't quite there). Listened to some 4-11-72 to commemorate. Also got in some triple Bird Song 8/25, 8/27, & 9/24, 1972. Sunshine Daydream is soooo good. Then I hit up that 30 Trips 1972 Dark Star that heads into China Cat - great fidelity on that release. We're talking high volume car ride listening....
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Hey vGuy- Enjoy your Vegas Trojan Knights. Sorry but that logo reminds me of you know what. Nothing like the Stanley Cup Playoffs. My Rangers are not in the tournament for the first time in 8 years but I’ll be watching. Sound will be off as I resume my E72 anniversary trip. Tonight is 4/11 Newcastle.
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are the balls. My Red Wings are out, so I am jumping on the Winnipeg train this year. Sorry vguy.
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Just a quick share ladies and Gentlemen...if any member here has” The Big Box/boxzilla/ 30 trips around the sun boxset, flip the side panels doors open and read what the art production/band and ect. choose to Engrave / quote in that release! ;) ...... :0 ...I’m not trying to start another 120 post of the doors, ;)
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What a fantastic release which proves that Jerry's best years were not over. The Jack Straw has the band playing it like they were a Metal Band. Fast. Furious. They all come together for the climatic chorus "Jack S from Wichita cut his buddy down!" They all hit the mark with a big crescendo and Jerry's playing just prior is as good as it get! Awesome stuff. The Doors.
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I remember it now set 2 is included with Dap and set 1 is the bonus disc If I'm remembering correctly.
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Makes sense to release it then. Thanks. Dave will probably explain in the next Seaside Chat in a few days. Uncirculated upgrades of shows are always welcome.
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....Jerry Garcia impersonating Dave Mustaine. Golden Knights shut out the queens. Onward!!Break On Through....
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4-12-71 from the Pittsburgh Civic Arena. In honor of the two time defending champion Penguins, who took care of business against that other team from Pennsylvania. I'm rooting for a Vegas / Pittsburgh final, so we can see a reunion with Marc-Andre Fleury. As a longtime Penguins fan, I've seen plenty of Fleury's handiwork in the playoffs so I like our chances :) Also really excited for a new Record Store Day release. Its a 7" single, A side is an obscure Ray Manzarek track titled "Mr. Pig Pen was a BIG Meanie Who Wouldn't Let Me Play With His Toys." B side is an experimental instrumental track from Jerry "Mr. Jim Morrison Was a Pretentious Drunken Lout But He Looked Way Better Than Me in Leather Pants." I pre-ordered a copy. 4-12-71 from the Pittsburgh Civic Arena. If anyone needs a copy, I know a Good Doctor.
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It's great to see these two gems finally get released. I'm all in. It's solidly Penguin country here.. I will have to give 4/12/71 a spin. Performed in the Civic Arena, which was flattened in 2010 and is now a parking lot. It was known as "The House Lemieux Built." Pittsburgh was home to many good shows.. perhaps the best venue the Dead played there was the Stanley Theatre (now the Benedum Center). A great place to see a show.
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Oh how I dislike Crosby. A whiner indeed, but what a talent. the Civic Center was also known as the Igloo. Game of the night was the Knights and the Kings. Good for you Vguy. But that rock em, sock em pace is exhausting to watch, let alone play. They must all be in a tub or bed of ice at this very moment. I'll have to pick up that RSD 7" with Pig on A & Jim in leather on B side. I fell behind on my E72 homework. Blame it on the NHL & the kids. Hope to finish the 4/11 Newcastle tonight. But then again 5 games on ice are scheduled....
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Not a fan of Sid.2010 Olympics he scored the gold medal winning goal in overtime. But I despised him before that. (But yes, he’s a good player). RogueDeadGuy, thought you lived in Michigan? And you like the Penguins? That’s treason. Angry Jack Straw, didn’t know you were a Red Wings fan. Unfortunately, for the second year in a row the Wings were more interested in playing golf in April than playing hockey. So who do I root for? Will have to think about that, but maybe the Thrashers (who used to suck when they went by that name).
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Don't forget Jimmy Smith. I thought he was the man who brought the B3 to the forefront of the jazz world in the sixties. And lets not forget Andy DeVito. WHO??? See you forgot. I grew up in roller skating rinks, in my family if you didn't skate you got kicked out. ( I think a have a brother or two out there I never met!) In their hayday roller rinks had organ players who played live music while you skated. Our man was Andy DeVito and his whirling Wurlitzer. The organ player can control the speed of the skate floor. As a kid I'd be spinning around the floor in time to organ, the speakers were spaced out on the ceiling so sound would spin with you while the colored lights could hypnotize. (there's a good line for a song, eh?) Where I learn music, motion and color. Other large instruments - anyone ever read Phillip Roth's, "I Married a Communist"? In this book one of the characters has a harp. Another character talks about the harp and how all these girls learned to play the harp because their mothers thought it looked so lady like. Only the damn things weighed a ton and were a pain to move and they were ALWAYS out of tune because of being moved. Brent and the B3 - I don't think I ever heard brent really walk the pedals as a bass line because they had phil. I thought maybe pedals were used just to add dark texture to the mix. (dark texture,,, is that like heavy air?)
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