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    "We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

    We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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  • Mind-Left-Body
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    I'm not selling on ebay and I don't want them re-issuing stuff. I'd rather have my Dead Collection worth 4 - 5 x more because it's a collectors item. Space, I honestly think the lack of 80s in Dave's Picks is aimed directly at you. Way too much thought going into it. If there's a buck to made they'll do it. They haven't done it with FW '69, so they clearly don't see the value on their end, either up front or in terms of losing business by reneging on the one time only slogan. Nothing against Rhino, but it's a business first, and they're going to do what makes the most money long term. 10K units of Fillmore West probably doesn't pay for the Christmas party and hookers, so why screw up your relationship with a fanbase that has loyally returned time and again to get their collectible numbered Dave's Picks or box set? (not to mention the Christmas party and hookers). They're not going to alienate the majority to satisfy a few. It would be here if there were dollars in it, but they're pencil pushers ain't seeing it, and they've seen well clear to a 33% increase in Dave's Picks production since year 1. It is what it is. Next topic.
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    Thanks for the reminder of "Get Shown The Light" and the E'72 steamer trunk. Those were also advertised as limited affairs that became available as "music only" editions, only after demand exceeded expected sales. One could just as easily make the argument on behalf of the original purchasers of the 7,200 steamer trunks and 15,000 GSTL packages and how changing the goalposts affected the monetary secondhand value of those (for people who worry about making a buck.....not to say that necessity can dictate what one sells, in the case of needing to pay for emergency circumstances). Same with the Dave's Picks series. You advertise something by flashing dates from 30 years of music, you either stick with that original plan, or change it. They changed plans on so many releases, that they might as well do it with the 900 pound gorilla in the room that is FW'69. Sure, many people are kind enough to make copies for those of us who missed out. It's a cool gesture and much appreciated, but the agreement has always been that if reprinted, a purchase would be made so the band and those working for them would benefit. For me, it's always about supporting the cause within my capacity to do so. The best bet in any cirmustance regarding the "limited edition" model is to either always stick with the plan on everything, or change the plans on everything. To stick with plans on some, but not others is in my opinion a disservice to the customer base....regardless of ones favorite era or how much monetary value one thinks they might get out of the back end.
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    the people who don't want
    the people who don't want limited stuff to be restocked are probly people selling stuff on ebay lmao
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    I also don't think FW Complete will be re-released. Do I want it to be re-released? No. I paid $450 for mine because I've been told by Rhino it will never be released again. If they start re-releasing stuff that they sold us on as limited edition, everyone who has paid high prices on the secondary market is going to lose faith in Rhino and stop buying. Or at least a good chunk. I would. If you sell something as a collectible, then it's a collectible. Do I care about market value? Yes, I paid $450 for mine. If I'm ever strapped for cash and need to sell it, I will be pissed if Rhino undermines my good faith purchase in a collectible. Will they do it? I'd like to hope not. I'd like to believe it's too risky for Rhino in terms of the "buy it now, buy it fast, because it's not going to be around long" marketing strategy. The music itself is plenty available to anyone who wants it, as pointed out by others. There's absolutely no argument that they're preventing people from hearing these great shows by not re-releasing it. If you want it, pony up. And enjoy the fact that your Dave's Picks are going to be worth something down the road beyond their musical value (like baseball cards). I think they treaded a dubious line with Get Shown The Light when they announced a music only edition 4 days after selling out the numbered edition. That was some planned shenanigans
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    Off topic a bit but as I consider grabbing this DP8 vinyl set I'm curious, when do we usually start hearing about Record Store Day exclusives? It's quickly approaching.
  • wave-that-flag
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    The Dead are hot now with their recent 50th anniversary and ongoing Dead & Co touring. Free the FW69 reels! Spread the love to the young ones. Perhaps their greatest and trippiest tour ever. Could care less about marketvalue or whatever BS the hoarders are pushing... When I buy a box, I rip the CDs and the box goes in my closet. (Why not give the boxes away--because I give the music to anyone who asks me or might be interested.) Wonder how many of these FW69 "limited edition" boxes are sitting gathering dust somewhere right now. Damn shame, IMHO. Maybe Cosmic Charlie can post the tunes u know where if you're listening.... Someone please save a copy for the Deadhead retirement home we'll all be tripping at in a few years as well. Good tunes for the pillow and herbs room.
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    Snafu has a point. Indeed I have a vague recollection of sharing a copy many years ago to help out a regular participant here. What was the name? Galaxy Comrade or something similar perhaps? Or maybe it was just a dream.
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    Only to the young. Hey you kids! Get offa my lawn! :]>
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    I just can't help thinking it's about getting in on the release than having the music. I mean you don't know someone who has it or a copy? Over the years I've make a couple for friends. As for the morality of copying this there is a difference between the pirating of an ongoing release say the 50th of Captain Trips and copying a limited release's music. The difference of course is the producers artists etc. will not be losing a dime since if their honest no more will ne made. So the vehemence about reissue is not missing out on the music but missing out on the cool collectable. Hell maybe 50 posts ago someone offered to help out anyone who wanted the misic
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"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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One would think, but who knows for sure... Announcement in the Spring, delivery in the Fall?? They get cash up front and it doesn't trip all over the holidays, etc. The one thing that makes me think yes.. is seven, no fourteen and the appearance and disappearance of our favorite clown operative Bolo. I have no idea what his clues mean though... 14? Vermont was the fourteenth state: 05/06/78- Patrick Field House (University Of Vermont) - Burlington, VT 04/13/83- Patrick Field House (University Of Vermont) - Burlington, VT 07/13/94- Franklin County Airport - Highgate, VT 06/15/95- Franklin Field - Highgate, VT But I don't see them tossing us another 1978 now.. although Highgate, combined with the venues starting with B (Boreal Ridge) might make me a little nauseous.
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....before the Dead, before The Doors, before The Who, before The Floyd, in my life, The Beatles popped my musical appreciation cherry. Twelve year old me would drool over this back in 1980https://youtu.be/iVkUC5yURjI Woodchuck, woodchuck, woodchuck....
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so were people losing their minds n shit over One From the Vault when it came out cuz it was a whole show?
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I like the Summer '73 box 100%. That includes 6/9-10 and much more. Expensive. My current personal pick would be "The Ark, Boston Massachusetts, April 1969 - The Complete Recordings" box. Not quite as expensive, probably about 1/2 to 2/3 the amount that the Summer '73 box would be. Who knows what's about to happen, but I'd be and very grateful for almost anything. -------------- "The Reveal: Not too long ago, Dave Lemieux, Mark Pinkus, Steve Vance, ______________ (Bolo24), and myself were in the lobby of 3400 W. Olive Avenue chatting about frivolous matters and then Bolo24 let some flatulence out and we all coughed and gagged, then Mr. Pinkus exclaimed, That's it! That's our Grateful Dead box set offering for 2018! Thank you, _____________ for the great idea!" "14"
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There was lots of chatter once the CD format came to be that the Dead would begin releasing shows from the vault. ..but nothing seemed to be happening quickly. Then one day it happened, One From the Vault was released and it was wonderful. Like Christmas. I think Dan Healy either did an interview or wrote the liner notes.. something to the effect of where to start? We know this circulates widely so why did we pick this show? Because it kicks ass.. (or something like that). Then soon after the Dicks Picks serious started.. although it got off to a wobbly start, it kicked ass too. To me it was more reminiscent of a kid in a candy store.. They could not come fast enough. In the beginning, before you had a hundred or two hundred Normanized shows to chose from.. I wore those CDs out with repeated listens. Then came Charlie Miller and the Archive and oh boy... then the FW and E72 boxes.. oh mama.
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....but Two From The Vault? I understood then, that things were getting serious. Where are we now? A Hundred and Fourteenth from the Vault? Because 14.
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....has anyone heard from Rich Gergelis lately? Starting to get concerned. He hooked me up with a lot of pristine Dead & Co soundboards last year. Texting him getting no responses.
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..the tapes were a revelation. I came across them about 1987-first of all in a shop in Manchester, where someone was selling hundreds of live shows on tape from so many bands-including The Dead. Shortly after that, I think through a fanzine called Spiral Light, I came across someone who was running a tape library. Steve Green, his name was. He had a list of shows, and he would record them for you if you sent him the blanks and postage. Brilliant-it was how I first heard Binghampton May 1970, February 11th, 13th and 14th 1970 and April 28th and 29th 1971 shows-quite a few actually. Up until then it had just been the official albums for me. I often wonder what happened to him-and all the other people who contributed to Spiral Light. They really did turn me on to a deeper sense of who The Dead were.
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Dancing In The Street got me dancin' in the livin' room.....My 1st Listen to this one, Great Show!!!!
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Sacred ground VGuy. The original recordings were once thought to be subpar, not worthy of release.. Along came the late, great sound Warlock Don Pearson (RIP) and the rest is history. ______________________ Per Wikipedia: The concert was recorded on a then-state-of-the-art, one-inch 8-track tape machine that was supplied by the band's record label, Warner Bros. The record company also insisted on supplying engineers who turned out to be unfamiliar with the close miking technique involved in recording rock music. Consequently, each of the eight tracks contained significant leakage from all of the other instruments in the band, resulting in severe phase cancellation problems. Almost twenty-four years later, Don Pearson and producer Dan Healy solved this problem by employing a B&K 2032 Fast Fourier transform (FFT) digital spectrum analyzer to measure the delay in time between the different microphones, using the track of bassist Phil Lesh as the time centerpiece. The delay times were fed into a TC1280 stereo digital delay, which, along with careful mixing, resulted in a nearly perfect stereo image. ______________________ And VGuy.. Rich is likely spending his days doing covert ops in Eastern Europe searching for the remaining missing reels.. but you mentioned his name likely blowing his cover. I hope Bolo, aka the fixer, isn't reading these boards. I suggest you lay low for a while, take some much needed time off. Stay away from the internet, phones, electricity and don't turn on the lights. Do you best to explain this to Mrs. VGuy and VGuy Jr. I'm sure this will all just blow over. BEWARE of people in clown costumes, however.. I cannot emphasize this enough. STAY AWAY FROM CLOWNS. Over and out.. Seriously, Two From the Vault gospel music for the soul, a short-cut to divinity. Edit: KC Jones.. 1970 Dancin' in the Streets speaks to me. And that Man's World.. If you play it loud enough the bones of James Brown himself can be heard grooving to the beat six feet under.
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So i just found my old copy of this CD. Not with all my other Dead releases... I know a lot of the songs have been released now on other full shows, but man the Midnight Hour, (31 minutes long) from Rio Nido, 9/3/67 is just awesome in so many ways!!! If you are a pig pen fan and never have listened, you will love it... I always wonder if the woman Pigpen tries so hard to get to dance, knows that she is on an album!!! bob t
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That is the best Midnight Hour to bounce into my ears..The whole CD is pretty damned good.
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....Fallout From The Phil Zone? My jewel case for that release broke a long time ago. Best Jack A Roe and Visions if I recall correctly. The ptb screwed up royally by not calling it Phallout From The Phil Zone if you ask me. No one asked me....
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Jim i also had the Hard to Handle audience tape, but when they put it on Fall out from the Phil Zone it was amazing!!! The Vision of Johanna is great also!! VGuy my case broke also that is why i didn't see it
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....and I'll go out and say a prayer for him. Thank you Dylan for being a muse for Jerry. Then Box Of Rain from '95 Soldier Field comes on and I get all melancholy. Highs and lows....
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I was fortunate to catch the break out of this tune at Hampton in 86.. At the time in all honestly, I had no idea the significance. I did not know it was the first time played of eight and besides the BCT version a month later that it wouldn't be played again for another nine years. My memory was just that it seemed a good show and we had a great time. Still.. the March 95 version from the Spectrum is the best and to this day makes the hair stand up on my neck and arms and gives me goosebumps whenever I listen to it. Phil knew his music and knew how to pick em. Who said they had no fire left in their bellies in 95, aged and frail as they were? Those late era songs, including So Many Roads culled from 93-95 appearing on the So Many Roads box set are gems indeed. I wonder what things would have been like if Jerry had stayed clean post his '86 health meltdown? wack fall the daddy-o..there's whiskey in the jar. Probably not worth thinking about.. coulda, woulda, shoulda. I'm happy for the shows I saw, the recordings left behind and the legacy that still burns bright. Thank god for incredible psychedelic music and the many friends and experiences we all absorbed along the way. Edit: Reeling in on the memories and playing this now.. What a great song.
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Well after not listening to Fall out from the Phil Zone for about 10 years, just listened to Visions of Johanna 3 times. Just listen to Jerry "ooh" before "The harmonicas play the skeleton keys and the rain" makes my hair stand up!!
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....Jerry bends his strings oh so eliquently throughout. Angels on a pin.
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Perhaps one of the last truly great moments... from our frail yet fearless leader. So I ask.. who is Gus West?
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I believe that only includes sober, fully clothed views. I suggest you review the dead.net and YouTube user agreement license and web cam agreement language. Of the half million views.. I expect between 30 and 1,978 are from me, the variance due to the fact I cannot remember stuff when my mind is noodling. To your benefit.. I expect as a Senator, those details might have eluded you. Not to worry, VGuy in 2018.. you have my vote and likely anyone else that has read this far into this thread.
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tomorrows the big day. all I have to say is if you aren't too much into the release right now, listen to some of what is on the archive then play the official. the one on the archive is dog doo doo
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Without question, the last great moment. I was lucky enoughy to catch it. Still not sure how he pulled that one off. I'll take it over the Unbroken breakout all day long. Just a beautiful song. Visions and She Belongs to Me are by far the two ballads that standout over all my years of seeing shows.
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What an unexpected treat, seeing a clip of Ozric Tentacles on here. They were far and away the best British band of the 90s. They seem to have been inspired by the aforementioned Hawkwind, although they are a bit more sophisticated musically, and are almost entirely instrumental. Still going-still making great music. They were probably inspired also by Gong and Steve Hillage, who are definitely worth checking out by anyone who likes this clip. But if I knew how to enclose video clips on here, the one I would chose would have to be the one of Hawkwind from 1972 doing Silver Machine. Be afraid, be very afraid...
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How long will it take for volume 26 to sell out, I say under 2 hours. April 16th, 1979 a real JAM session. It's Manic Monday DeadLand PLAY DEAD!!!!!!
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My favourite was Lazy River Road, which I don't think has ever been on an official release. Its years since I have heard it, so I don't know if I would still be as impressed as I was. I was disappointed that it wasn't included in any of the 30 Trips shows. Maybe no one else liked it!
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I love Lazy River Road as well. I too was a little bummed it didn't make it into the 30 Trips box, since that was the best chance of seeing that one. But Dave has said they just don't pick shows based on the songs they played. It's not over yet though...maybe it'll show up one day.
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It's the anniversary of a Grateful Dead Europe '72 show that came highly regarded by the author of this Rolling Stone article: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/20-essential-grateful-dead-show… The Dead in Denmark. I usually delve into Europe 72 extra heavy this time of year. It's always a pleasure listening to these multi-tracks.
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This is one of my favorites of the later Jerry/Hunter compositions too. It saw an official release in the So Many Roads Box Set as a studio rehearsal/outtake from the unfinished last album with Days between and Eternity supposed to be on there as well.
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I'm happy to see some love for Lazy River Road.. it has special meaning to me as my front yard is a river so the road leading my home is Lazy River Road to me. So Many Roads has meaning too. Someone put together this nice montage on YouTube. Fitting. oh.. DaveRock.. it's not hard to post videos from youtube here, but I don't think it works well using Microsoft Edge. If you are using Internet Explorer, from youtube click on the button that says Share and an option Embed appears. Click on that and it will create a little text statement. Just copy and paste that into the comment section of the post and viola.. a properly formatted clip appears like the one above. AJS, She Belongs To Me is another gem of a song. Jerry had a knack for covering Dylan Songs. They became his own, so much emotional content. She Belongs To Me was only played ten times. Such a beautiful song.. I caught the third to the last one played, very memorable.
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So many roads to ease my soul all I want is one to take me home... All I'm looking for is those hot air balloons. Thanks.
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What a special song and so well suited for Garcia's style. It occurred to me a while back that Jerry broke this one out when he was exhausted and, frankly, on the brink of death - both times. Played in March and April before his July collapse in 86 and then from February to July before his August death. I think that this was no coincidence and demonstrates just what the song meant to him and how he felt when he was inspired to perform it.
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Loved a lot of them...so many roads, lazy river road, days between were all beautiful and I was happy to hear them whenever played. Towards the end, Bobby started doing Take Me to the River which I saw live once. I think that was well received enough where it could have been a mainstay had the band continued to tour past 95...
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I read once "somewhere", Dylan said Jerry did the best covers of his songs.
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My 30th birthday, the Dead's 30th year. Their last show, my last show. So Many Roads, so bittersweet...
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I attended the two in Auurn Hills, the night that wasn't cancelled at Deer Creek (very weird and frieghtening experience) and the last two at Soldier Field. The Palace shows weren't too bad. The most passable of the final five I saw. The circumstances at Deer Creek overshadowed the gig itself, and the cancellation of the second night (because of so-called fans) really soured the vibe and scene in a way where I was convinced that the Dead needed to take a break to regroup. I recall the two shows at Soldier Field being dismal, with that Visions of Johanna from the first night being the only moment where Jerry showed passion and delivered a solid effort. The rest of that weekend, Jerry looked like he didn't even want to be there. Not even a shell of what he was just a few short years prior. In hindsight, it was painful to see Jerry go from a few of his last best years ('87-'91) to his deterioration to the end. Of course they still had some good shows left in them from '92 onward, but that was mostly the rest of the band stepping up to cover for him. '93 did have it's share of good shows though. The drpoff from '94 onward was drastic though. I was fortunate enough to see them grow from being the best kept secret in '84 through their true final peak of consistency, but after Brent died, in hindsight, Jerry seemed to lose the spark. Bruce helped bring some of that back, but after he left, it was a steady decline. Ironically, at the time I thought Vince was just finally coming into his own with the band at the very end. All in all, he did better than I gave him credit for, considering the shoes he had to fill. We'll never know now, had the band had taken a break prior to his second collapse in '92, whether Jerry would have bounced back. In some ways it's like he became a prisoner in his own career, which ultimately killed him in the long run. His continued addictions and stress of being "the man" at the center of a massive touring operation became too much of a burdon, as I see it. Jerry did manage to outlive many of his contemporaries though (Jimi, Janice, Morrison, Pigpen ect) and still have a 30 year profesional touring career, going out at the peak of popularity, which itself was no small fete. I'm also reminded of Johnny Winter, who also survived the '60's, and like Jerry, continued to peak, up through the '80's, only to gradually wither away once the '90's came to be. Very sad watching our heroes fall.
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got to click on daves picks drop down in music store to find it
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I dunno man. I think Vince was doing great work as early as summer '92. especially on Picasso Moon. i'll probly take a lot of flack for saying so but, Picasso Moon got better with Vince. it always came off sounding thin during brent's years to me. not sure why that would be. case in point: 6/20/92 Knickerbocker Arena.
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Worth the price of admission on 7-8-95 to get a Visions. Got a Take Me To The River in Memphis 95 (the Pyramid is next to the MS River). Caught the same 95 summer shows as SpaceBro. My first time to Deer Creek....and my last.
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Uh huh, blast blast blast Time to shut this thread down....
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