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    "We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

    We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • Mr. Jack Straw
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    Space, let's drop it
    I think the JBP passing puts it in perspective. No one really cares about the endless Era Debate anyway.
  • SkullTrip
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    In Defense of Defensiveness...
    "Defensiveness often reveals an area of our lives where we're in denial." - Kyle Idleman "Defensiveness is usually someone silently screaming that they need you to value and respect them." - Sharon Alder "My defensiveness in life really helps me as a driver." - Larry David
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    Hallucinations: Last Wed. I got up early to see what all the fuss was with the super/full/blood/eclipsed moon or whatever it was. I was out on my front porch drinking some strong coffee in the dark. As I looked West, I found the sinking full moon. Over the next 15 minutes or so, the eclipse hit just right. As I looked through a couple of oak trees, the moon appeared as a SYF. It was actually a pretty nice hallucination as the crickety thin branches formed crows feet lines around the eyes and a mouth. Some times, it does pay to actually wake up. This is all a dream we dreamed...row row row your boat! G
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    Retelling the story again of the miracled S'90 box
    I usually end up telling this almost annually if not more often, because of the smear campaign from the "clique"....just for some context. Lengthy post ahead... Prior to the announcement of the second Spring '90 box, I had been actively advocating for Dave to fulfil the promise of era diversity of picks in the Dave's Picks series, as per originally advertised with the flashing dates from their entire career. After the first several picks came out, and every one of them from the same general time frame in the 70's with one lone exception from the 60's, my advocacy became more of a tone of disappointment. Around this time I became hit with financial difficulties (medical related actually, plus loss of job at same time). I even hit a point where I became homeless for a couple of months (I haven't told that part of the story here, so this is the first time mentioning my personal affairs here). I knew there was no way I would going to be able to afford any luxuries for a while, but did have the subscription. This is when the S'90 (TOO) box announcement dropped. My frustration and disappointment at the lack of variety in the Dave's Picks series was compounded by the fact that they were finally releasing something I was truly interested in, but it wasn't inexpensive, so was priced out of it. With the track record of previous limited edition box sets like FW '69, the two Winterland boxes, E'72, the 1st S'90 box, most of which I missed out on at the time, knew it would sell out before I could afford one. I expressed frustration and disappointment that fans of later era's had to shell out larger sums of money than a subscription or ala carte. This is when jrf68 totally dstepped-up and surprised me by offering to help me get a S'90 (TOO). I was hesitant to accept, as I've never had a complete stranger offer me something, I thought would be too good to be true, so initially leaned towards declining the offer. I also wasn't very keen about giving personal information to a random person online I've never met. After a couple of days of sitting on that, I had recieved a bunch of personal messages urging me to take him up on his offer. Jrf68, being the true gentleman and brother he is, in a true selfless act of generosity, facilitated some kind of crowdfunding effort to get me a box. I had no idea to what extant he did this, or even who all donated. I wasn't "in the know" of how he was going about this and with whom. All I know is several people stepped up, and I continue to thank them and express my gratitude for his and their generosity, as I have on many of these threads for the last 5 years. Jrf68 offered with no strings attached or expectations to have to repay him, though I've offered on to purchase releases for him as compensation, yet he so far has declined to accept (or already had them on order). A true act of class from one of the coolest people I've never even had the pleasure to meet in person. He truly personifies the spirit of what being a Deadhead is supposed to be. Kind and generous, even to complete strangers. The unfortunate thing is, jrf68 was attacked by the "clique" for helping me out. While they have since held resentment towards me for expressing my opinions, personal tastes and criticisms of the pick choices, as well as being miracled a S'90 box with no strings attached, their treatment of him is inexcuseable. This probably won't be the last time I have to explain myself and this story, unfortunately. Some people, who more often than not get what they selfishly desire, harbour resentment towards those they disagree with for catching a break, like being miracled a box set (one that I neither solicited to get, or asked for....it was offered freely....and I hesitantly accepted at the urging of others). It's always been clear to me that some who harbor resentment towards me for expressing my desire to see more 80's releases in the Dave's Picks series, have used the miracle box was part of an agenda to shut me down. My final point of this post is directed at AJS.... You've been an asshole to me for years. You say you put in $20 towards the box jrf68, yet turned around and attacked him for helping me out and attacked me for recieving it. After treating me like shit, you turn around and attack me for not handing you money for crowdfunding for other people (did those people even ever get their boxes you crowdfunded for? I haven't seen any mention of them recieving them anywhere since). Why would I hand over a single dime to somebody I've never met, who for years has been spiteful, rude and mean to me? There's a reason I blocked you from sending me pm's. I even felt the need to bring your last pm to me to the attention of MaryE. You definitely don't want me to publicly share that message that I blocked you over. My suggestion is...get over it....move on. If my expressing the advocacy of more 80's releases, expressing opinions of 80's shows and criticisms of not following through on advertised promises of variety in the Dave's Picks series bothers you so much, that's your problem. I've even reached out on multiple occasions to find a way to put our differences aside, yet you refuse. Oh well.... Ostracizing is as against the spirit of the Grateful dead as it gets.
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    Unkle Sam..
    I think you are confusing him with Bob Bralove.... "I just read that John has died. 70 years old. This is a hard pill to swallow and it will take me weeks to process this. Condolences to all who knew him and worked with him, to his family and to Bobby, I just don't have the words, like he did, to explain this feeling. One of the great Dead lyricist and no one will ever replace him. His work on Infrared Roses (one of the best "space exploration" dead lp's out there) was nothing short of genius. Second Sight was a great band and one I wish I had seen before they disappeared like the wind. 70 years old. Think about it, we all know our time is short on this blue ball, so make every moment count, you never know when the reaper will come for you. Thank you John, say hello to Bear and Jerry in that tye dyed part of heaven that I hope I get to visit. Vaya con dios my friend."
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    Well said, Unkle Sam. I am also sorry if I have made people angry in the past by going on about what I like and what I don't like. We all have more in common that we have differences. Its a shame we can't always seem to debate things without resorting to personal attacks. Liking the Dead, maybe especially in England, is quite a specialist interest, so we may not have the opportunity to discuss things concerning the band anywhere else but on here. A couple of weeks ago, I was listening to shows from March and April 1972 . Then I switched track, and started listening to shows from 1982. A fascinating study in contrasts-but not one I can discuss with the next door neighbour. Or on here it seems-it has become such a loaded topic. Maybe even saying this is provocative-but I hope not-its meant well.
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    A lot of people are "signing up" for the "digital petition" to get 6/10/73 released (along with 6/9). I think even cooler than having the music released, would be if we truly all bonded together to get our voices heard and our online family recognized. I think it would be awesome if, along with this release, Dave mentioned us in the Seaside Chat and maybe even the liner notes. Nothing is impossible, and I have had email responses from DL himself in the past. 1973 is in Dave's "wheelhouse" and 6/10 is a very high demand show, from a period during the year where we haven't had a release - so I really believe, if ever there is a chance that the online community's vote could sway the tides, this is it. Why not, right? http://www.dead.net/show/june-10-1973 Just put RELEASE as the subject and I'LL BUY IT in the comment section. Jack Baller voted as I'm writing this - that's 40! "I'll ride the wave where it takes me...."
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    Thanks, man. That made my morning, and will definitely keep me chuckling throughout the day.
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    .... on the same thought vein, I had a customer in one night and asked if he'd like a "FREE" lighter. His reply, "what type?" I looked at him for a moment and said "a fuckin' free one!"
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    Pretty impressive to look at. This is just what he did with the Dead: Mexicali Blues Cassidy Looks Like Rain Walk in the Sunshine Black-Throated Wind Let It Grow (Weather Report II) Finance Blues The Music Never Stopped Lazy Lightnin' Estimated Prophet Heaven Help the Fool I Need a Miracle Easy to Love You Saint of Circumstance Lost Sailor Feel Like A Stranger My Brother Essau Throwing Stones Hell in a Bucket Gentlemen, Start Your Engines I Will Take You Home Picasso Moon We Can Run But We Can't HIde Blow Away A Little Light
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"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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One would think, but who knows for sure... Announcement in the Spring, delivery in the Fall?? They get cash up front and it doesn't trip all over the holidays, etc. The one thing that makes me think yes.. is seven, no fourteen and the appearance and disappearance of our favorite clown operative Bolo. I have no idea what his clues mean though... 14? Vermont was the fourteenth state: 05/06/78- Patrick Field House (University Of Vermont) - Burlington, VT 04/13/83- Patrick Field House (University Of Vermont) - Burlington, VT 07/13/94- Franklin County Airport - Highgate, VT 06/15/95- Franklin Field - Highgate, VT But I don't see them tossing us another 1978 now.. although Highgate, combined with the venues starting with B (Boreal Ridge) might make me a little nauseous.
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....before the Dead, before The Doors, before The Who, before The Floyd, in my life, The Beatles popped my musical appreciation cherry. Twelve year old me would drool over this back in 1980https://youtu.be/iVkUC5yURjI Woodchuck, woodchuck, woodchuck....
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so were people losing their minds n shit over One From the Vault when it came out cuz it was a whole show?
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I like the Summer '73 box 100%. That includes 6/9-10 and much more. Expensive. My current personal pick would be "The Ark, Boston Massachusetts, April 1969 - The Complete Recordings" box. Not quite as expensive, probably about 1/2 to 2/3 the amount that the Summer '73 box would be. Who knows what's about to happen, but I'd be and very grateful for almost anything. -------------- "The Reveal: Not too long ago, Dave Lemieux, Mark Pinkus, Steve Vance, ______________ (Bolo24), and myself were in the lobby of 3400 W. Olive Avenue chatting about frivolous matters and then Bolo24 let some flatulence out and we all coughed and gagged, then Mr. Pinkus exclaimed, That's it! That's our Grateful Dead box set offering for 2018! Thank you, _____________ for the great idea!" "14"
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There was lots of chatter once the CD format came to be that the Dead would begin releasing shows from the vault. ..but nothing seemed to be happening quickly. Then one day it happened, One From the Vault was released and it was wonderful. Like Christmas. I think Dan Healy either did an interview or wrote the liner notes.. something to the effect of where to start? We know this circulates widely so why did we pick this show? Because it kicks ass.. (or something like that). Then soon after the Dicks Picks serious started.. although it got off to a wobbly start, it kicked ass too. To me it was more reminiscent of a kid in a candy store.. They could not come fast enough. In the beginning, before you had a hundred or two hundred Normanized shows to chose from.. I wore those CDs out with repeated listens. Then came Charlie Miller and the Archive and oh boy... then the FW and E72 boxes.. oh mama.
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....but Two From The Vault? I understood then, that things were getting serious. Where are we now? A Hundred and Fourteenth from the Vault? Because 14.
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....has anyone heard from Rich Gergelis lately? Starting to get concerned. He hooked me up with a lot of pristine Dead & Co soundboards last year. Texting him getting no responses.
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..the tapes were a revelation. I came across them about 1987-first of all in a shop in Manchester, where someone was selling hundreds of live shows on tape from so many bands-including The Dead. Shortly after that, I think through a fanzine called Spiral Light, I came across someone who was running a tape library. Steve Green, his name was. He had a list of shows, and he would record them for you if you sent him the blanks and postage. Brilliant-it was how I first heard Binghampton May 1970, February 11th, 13th and 14th 1970 and April 28th and 29th 1971 shows-quite a few actually. Up until then it had just been the official albums for me. I often wonder what happened to him-and all the other people who contributed to Spiral Light. They really did turn me on to a deeper sense of who The Dead were.
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Dancing In The Street got me dancin' in the livin' room.....My 1st Listen to this one, Great Show!!!!
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Sacred ground VGuy. The original recordings were once thought to be subpar, not worthy of release.. Along came the late, great sound Warlock Don Pearson (RIP) and the rest is history. ______________________ Per Wikipedia: The concert was recorded on a then-state-of-the-art, one-inch 8-track tape machine that was supplied by the band's record label, Warner Bros. The record company also insisted on supplying engineers who turned out to be unfamiliar with the close miking technique involved in recording rock music. Consequently, each of the eight tracks contained significant leakage from all of the other instruments in the band, resulting in severe phase cancellation problems. Almost twenty-four years later, Don Pearson and producer Dan Healy solved this problem by employing a B&K 2032 Fast Fourier transform (FFT) digital spectrum analyzer to measure the delay in time between the different microphones, using the track of bassist Phil Lesh as the time centerpiece. The delay times were fed into a TC1280 stereo digital delay, which, along with careful mixing, resulted in a nearly perfect stereo image. ______________________ And VGuy.. Rich is likely spending his days doing covert ops in Eastern Europe searching for the remaining missing reels.. but you mentioned his name likely blowing his cover. I hope Bolo, aka the fixer, isn't reading these boards. I suggest you lay low for a while, take some much needed time off. Stay away from the internet, phones, electricity and don't turn on the lights. Do you best to explain this to Mrs. VGuy and VGuy Jr. I'm sure this will all just blow over. BEWARE of people in clown costumes, however.. I cannot emphasize this enough. STAY AWAY FROM CLOWNS. Over and out.. Seriously, Two From the Vault gospel music for the soul, a short-cut to divinity. Edit: KC Jones.. 1970 Dancin' in the Streets speaks to me. And that Man's World.. If you play it loud enough the bones of James Brown himself can be heard grooving to the beat six feet under.
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So i just found my old copy of this CD. Not with all my other Dead releases... I know a lot of the songs have been released now on other full shows, but man the Midnight Hour, (31 minutes long) from Rio Nido, 9/3/67 is just awesome in so many ways!!! If you are a pig pen fan and never have listened, you will love it... I always wonder if the woman Pigpen tries so hard to get to dance, knows that she is on an album!!! bob t
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That is the best Midnight Hour to bounce into my ears..The whole CD is pretty damned good.
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....Fallout From The Phil Zone? My jewel case for that release broke a long time ago. Best Jack A Roe and Visions if I recall correctly. The ptb screwed up royally by not calling it Phallout From The Phil Zone if you ask me. No one asked me....
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Jim i also had the Hard to Handle audience tape, but when they put it on Fall out from the Phil Zone it was amazing!!! The Vision of Johanna is great also!! VGuy my case broke also that is why i didn't see it
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....and I'll go out and say a prayer for him. Thank you Dylan for being a muse for Jerry. Then Box Of Rain from '95 Soldier Field comes on and I get all melancholy. Highs and lows....
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I was fortunate to catch the break out of this tune at Hampton in 86.. At the time in all honestly, I had no idea the significance. I did not know it was the first time played of eight and besides the BCT version a month later that it wouldn't be played again for another nine years. My memory was just that it seemed a good show and we had a great time. Still.. the March 95 version from the Spectrum is the best and to this day makes the hair stand up on my neck and arms and gives me goosebumps whenever I listen to it. Phil knew his music and knew how to pick em. Who said they had no fire left in their bellies in 95, aged and frail as they were? Those late era songs, including So Many Roads culled from 93-95 appearing on the So Many Roads box set are gems indeed. I wonder what things would have been like if Jerry had stayed clean post his '86 health meltdown? wack fall the daddy-o..there's whiskey in the jar. Probably not worth thinking about.. coulda, woulda, shoulda. I'm happy for the shows I saw, the recordings left behind and the legacy that still burns bright. Thank god for incredible psychedelic music and the many friends and experiences we all absorbed along the way. Edit: Reeling in on the memories and playing this now.. What a great song.
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Well after not listening to Fall out from the Phil Zone for about 10 years, just listened to Visions of Johanna 3 times. Just listen to Jerry "ooh" before "The harmonicas play the skeleton keys and the rain" makes my hair stand up!!
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....Jerry bends his strings oh so eliquently throughout. Angels on a pin.
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Perhaps one of the last truly great moments... from our frail yet fearless leader. So I ask.. who is Gus West?
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I believe that only includes sober, fully clothed views. I suggest you review the dead.net and YouTube user agreement license and web cam agreement language. Of the half million views.. I expect between 30 and 1,978 are from me, the variance due to the fact I cannot remember stuff when my mind is noodling. To your benefit.. I expect as a Senator, those details might have eluded you. Not to worry, VGuy in 2018.. you have my vote and likely anyone else that has read this far into this thread.
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tomorrows the big day. all I have to say is if you aren't too much into the release right now, listen to some of what is on the archive then play the official. the one on the archive is dog doo doo
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Without question, the last great moment. I was lucky enoughy to catch it. Still not sure how he pulled that one off. I'll take it over the Unbroken breakout all day long. Just a beautiful song. Visions and She Belongs to Me are by far the two ballads that standout over all my years of seeing shows.
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What an unexpected treat, seeing a clip of Ozric Tentacles on here. They were far and away the best British band of the 90s. They seem to have been inspired by the aforementioned Hawkwind, although they are a bit more sophisticated musically, and are almost entirely instrumental. Still going-still making great music. They were probably inspired also by Gong and Steve Hillage, who are definitely worth checking out by anyone who likes this clip. But if I knew how to enclose video clips on here, the one I would chose would have to be the one of Hawkwind from 1972 doing Silver Machine. Be afraid, be very afraid...
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How long will it take for volume 26 to sell out, I say under 2 hours. April 16th, 1979 a real JAM session. It's Manic Monday DeadLand PLAY DEAD!!!!!!
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My favourite was Lazy River Road, which I don't think has ever been on an official release. Its years since I have heard it, so I don't know if I would still be as impressed as I was. I was disappointed that it wasn't included in any of the 30 Trips shows. Maybe no one else liked it!
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I love Lazy River Road as well. I too was a little bummed it didn't make it into the 30 Trips box, since that was the best chance of seeing that one. But Dave has said they just don't pick shows based on the songs they played. It's not over yet though...maybe it'll show up one day.
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It's the anniversary of a Grateful Dead Europe '72 show that came highly regarded by the author of this Rolling Stone article: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/20-essential-grateful-dead-show… The Dead in Denmark. I usually delve into Europe 72 extra heavy this time of year. It's always a pleasure listening to these multi-tracks.
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This is one of my favorites of the later Jerry/Hunter compositions too. It saw an official release in the So Many Roads Box Set as a studio rehearsal/outtake from the unfinished last album with Days between and Eternity supposed to be on there as well.
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I'm happy to see some love for Lazy River Road.. it has special meaning to me as my front yard is a river so the road leading my home is Lazy River Road to me. So Many Roads has meaning too. Someone put together this nice montage on YouTube. Fitting. oh.. DaveRock.. it's not hard to post videos from youtube here, but I don't think it works well using Microsoft Edge. If you are using Internet Explorer, from youtube click on the button that says Share and an option Embed appears. Click on that and it will create a little text statement. Just copy and paste that into the comment section of the post and viola.. a properly formatted clip appears like the one above. AJS, She Belongs To Me is another gem of a song. Jerry had a knack for covering Dylan Songs. They became his own, so much emotional content. She Belongs To Me was only played ten times. Such a beautiful song.. I caught the third to the last one played, very memorable.
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So many roads to ease my soul all I want is one to take me home... All I'm looking for is those hot air balloons. Thanks.
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What a special song and so well suited for Garcia's style. It occurred to me a while back that Jerry broke this one out when he was exhausted and, frankly, on the brink of death - both times. Played in March and April before his July collapse in 86 and then from February to July before his August death. I think that this was no coincidence and demonstrates just what the song meant to him and how he felt when he was inspired to perform it.
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Loved a lot of them...so many roads, lazy river road, days between were all beautiful and I was happy to hear them whenever played. Towards the end, Bobby started doing Take Me to the River which I saw live once. I think that was well received enough where it could have been a mainstay had the band continued to tour past 95...
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I read once "somewhere", Dylan said Jerry did the best covers of his songs.
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My 30th birthday, the Dead's 30th year. Their last show, my last show. So Many Roads, so bittersweet...
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I attended the two in Auurn Hills, the night that wasn't cancelled at Deer Creek (very weird and frieghtening experience) and the last two at Soldier Field. The Palace shows weren't too bad. The most passable of the final five I saw. The circumstances at Deer Creek overshadowed the gig itself, and the cancellation of the second night (because of so-called fans) really soured the vibe and scene in a way where I was convinced that the Dead needed to take a break to regroup. I recall the two shows at Soldier Field being dismal, with that Visions of Johanna from the first night being the only moment where Jerry showed passion and delivered a solid effort. The rest of that weekend, Jerry looked like he didn't even want to be there. Not even a shell of what he was just a few short years prior. In hindsight, it was painful to see Jerry go from a few of his last best years ('87-'91) to his deterioration to the end. Of course they still had some good shows left in them from '92 onward, but that was mostly the rest of the band stepping up to cover for him. '93 did have it's share of good shows though. The drpoff from '94 onward was drastic though. I was fortunate enough to see them grow from being the best kept secret in '84 through their true final peak of consistency, but after Brent died, in hindsight, Jerry seemed to lose the spark. Bruce helped bring some of that back, but after he left, it was a steady decline. Ironically, at the time I thought Vince was just finally coming into his own with the band at the very end. All in all, he did better than I gave him credit for, considering the shoes he had to fill. We'll never know now, had the band had taken a break prior to his second collapse in '92, whether Jerry would have bounced back. In some ways it's like he became a prisoner in his own career, which ultimately killed him in the long run. His continued addictions and stress of being "the man" at the center of a massive touring operation became too much of a burdon, as I see it. Jerry did manage to outlive many of his contemporaries though (Jimi, Janice, Morrison, Pigpen ect) and still have a 30 year profesional touring career, going out at the peak of popularity, which itself was no small fete. I'm also reminded of Johnny Winter, who also survived the '60's, and like Jerry, continued to peak, up through the '80's, only to gradually wither away once the '90's came to be. Very sad watching our heroes fall.
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got to click on daves picks drop down in music store to find it
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I dunno man. I think Vince was doing great work as early as summer '92. especially on Picasso Moon. i'll probly take a lot of flack for saying so but, Picasso Moon got better with Vince. it always came off sounding thin during brent's years to me. not sure why that would be. case in point: 6/20/92 Knickerbocker Arena.
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Worth the price of admission on 7-8-95 to get a Visions. Got a Take Me To The River in Memphis 95 (the Pyramid is next to the MS River). Caught the same 95 summer shows as SpaceBro. My first time to Deer Creek....and my last.
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Uh huh, blast blast blast Time to shut this thread down....
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