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    "We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

    We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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  • icecrmcnkd
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    So dreading denied 10 people a 30Trips Box so he could break them up to make a buck? That’s why there needs to be order limits. There is also someone selling 10 GSTL Boxes on Amazon for $300 each. ORDER LIMITS!!!!
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    You'll have a long wait. They're remastering the Pigpen and Janis 710 Ashbury sex tapes first.
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    Dave Reading here, nice to meet you all. Long time Dead fan, long time forum reader, first time poster, long time physical record store / CD store owner. I like all eras, but I have to respectfully disagree with the idea that the 80s and 90s are as popular as the 60s and 70s. If they were, the sales would reflect it, but they don't. The 80s and 90s kept up at first, but lost pace ever since the market became saturated, which was roughly half-way through the Dick's Picks series. Until then, releases were infrequent, and the Deadheads came out every time something new came out, regardless of era. But once the release rate really picked up steam and consistency, all sales decreased, but more so the 80s (there weren't ever really too many '90s shows). I attribute this to the rationing of funds by consumers for the cream of of the crop, and the availability of more 80s product for lower prices online (which is not an opinion, it is a fact based on objective research I did, with no other motive than to identify which releases were most likely to help pay the mortgage). The sales figures tell the story. Just one example is the 30 Trips Around The Sun box set. I broke up 10 sets and sold them. It took 2 months to sell 1967 - 1978 and two years to sell 1979 - 1989. I still have a lot of '90s left. The 1966 release was in a slight class of its own, taking six months to sellout. What skews the tables even further is that I barely marked up the 80s and 90s, so not only did they take an immensely longer time to sell, but this occurred at a significantly lower price. It's no surprise to me whatsoever that Rhino appears to be pushing the 60s and 70s releases, because they're running a business and these are the money makers. I am sharing this to hopefully shed some light on the situation, and possibly help alleviate some of the typewriter churn that this topic has ushered in on the forum. Have a nice day and enjoy Dave's Picks 25!
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    Anyone got a Justia account so you can log in and see who the owner is? https://trademarks.justia.com/860/76/betty-86076910.html BETTY BOARDS BETTY BOARDS Digital music downloadable from the Internet; Downloadable MP3 files, MP3 recordings, on-line discussion board posts, webcasts… Owned by: ABCD Enterprises, LLC Serial Number: 86076910 https://www.trademarkia.com/betty-boards-86076910.html
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    great pick
    I have to agree with you on this subject. The playing and sound is far superior to anything in the 80's and 90's.Like I said in an earlier post, 1974 is my favorite year and wish for a box set.
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    I dispute the posts stating flatly that the GD have "purchased" any tapes from anyone who ended up with the Betty Boards from her locker. I doubt anyone on this board has inside information on how that deal works. I don't believe the remaining band members have changed their stance: "we don't pay for tapes that [ultimately] belong to us." But the liner notes on shows released from returned tapes all say: "Tapes provided through the assistance of ABCD Enterprises, LLC." I believe, but cannot confirm, that that means the folks with the tapes provided them for the release and probably earn a modest percentage of the earnings off the release. As for "paying for tapes" and then "blah blah profit" off them; the first is BS, the second is how the freakin' release program works. No profit, no release. Further, I'd guess (only a guess) that there may have been some arrangement to get a fair number of returned tapes released relatively quickly, which has already happened with two boxes and multiple DaPs. That way, the folks holding the tapes received some recompense for their willingness to provide the tapes. With the recent frequency of those returned tapes from Betty's locker, I'd suggest that Lemieux has options this year. He has not released a bunch of tapes from the Mtn Grrrl stash, which was received years ago. So while Dave has moved swiftly on some returned tapes, he has clearly withheld others. Over and out.
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    Hey David
    Is that an untapped era or an untaped era? I know there are some tape fragments but man o man, what I would not give for what you have proposed...
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    I love that show too Jason (was there ever a better first Wharf Rat, sandwiched between Dark Star and Dark Star, part II, which was so exquisite as to garner its own title, Beautiful Jam?) In my humble opinion, I don't believe it would be a Dave's Picks, but I do believe it will be released eventually. The reason I don't think it would be a Dave's Picks release is that it is 1) a multi-track recording and 2) part of a 6 show run (Feb 18, 19, 20, 21, 23, & 24). Typically, Dave's Picks have been compiled from the two-track recordings in the vault. I would think that they would consider this Port Chester run to be one of the top-shelf commodities in the Vault and release it as part of a box set, or as a wider release, like the follow-up night that was released as Three From The Vault. I do think it will see the light of day (it almost "has to" given the sales momentum that most of the Vault releases have today). If you want to help expedite its release, write to your Congressman: Dave Lemeieux / vault@dead.net
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    I think you're slightly misquoting Dave's criteria for release, I believe he's said they look for great performance first, and then make sure the tape of that performance has great sound. They don't seek out a fantastic sounding tape that has a mediocre performance. Almost all of the Dave's Picks have met both criteria, I think a few have been mediocre releases. I also agree with icecrmcnkd that the recently returned stuff will come out first. They have paid whatever it cost them to get them back in the Vault, and they need to generate revenue to make up for that outlay as you said. But they also seem to be finding the very best of that return for releases. As soon as they got Cornell, Buffalo, and Boston, they put it out. The July '78 box, which is still onsale, was the trial balloon. Those are really good shows (most especially 7/1, which was a non-circulating tape), and DaP 21 4/2/73 is a great show with a masterful recording job by Rex Jackson, DaP 22 12/6-7/71, another great sounding Rex tape that may fit the category of mediocre performance (debatable as there's an advocate for this Pick a few posts below), DaP 23 1/22/78 has been sought after for years and was put out to everyone's delight, and then DaP 24 8/25/72 was a Bear tape somehow in the Betty collection. Dave's 25th and 26th are both returned tapes, and the 6th of Dave's choices was also a returned tape, two actually. I hope there's more in the Houseboat collection worth putting out, but with all the Bettys (including her husband Rex's tapes, and the random(?) Bear tapes she had) back in the Vault, I would think the propensity will be finding the best of those and putting those out first. I think performance is the first box that has to be checked off, otherwise 30 Trips would not have included 5/16/81 or 7/31/82, which sound dreadful to my ears, but are good shows, just tough to listen to.
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    Any chance of 2/18/71 for an upcoming Dave's Pick?This has always been one of my favorites.
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"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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One would think, but who knows for sure... Announcement in the Spring, delivery in the Fall?? They get cash up front and it doesn't trip all over the holidays, etc. The one thing that makes me think yes.. is seven, no fourteen and the appearance and disappearance of our favorite clown operative Bolo. I have no idea what his clues mean though... 14? Vermont was the fourteenth state: 05/06/78- Patrick Field House (University Of Vermont) - Burlington, VT 04/13/83- Patrick Field House (University Of Vermont) - Burlington, VT 07/13/94- Franklin County Airport - Highgate, VT 06/15/95- Franklin Field - Highgate, VT But I don't see them tossing us another 1978 now.. although Highgate, combined with the venues starting with B (Boreal Ridge) might make me a little nauseous.
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....before the Dead, before The Doors, before The Who, before The Floyd, in my life, The Beatles popped my musical appreciation cherry. Twelve year old me would drool over this back in 1980https://youtu.be/iVkUC5yURjI Woodchuck, woodchuck, woodchuck....
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so were people losing their minds n shit over One From the Vault when it came out cuz it was a whole show?
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I like the Summer '73 box 100%. That includes 6/9-10 and much more. Expensive. My current personal pick would be "The Ark, Boston Massachusetts, April 1969 - The Complete Recordings" box. Not quite as expensive, probably about 1/2 to 2/3 the amount that the Summer '73 box would be. Who knows what's about to happen, but I'd be and very grateful for almost anything. -------------- "The Reveal: Not too long ago, Dave Lemieux, Mark Pinkus, Steve Vance, ______________ (Bolo24), and myself were in the lobby of 3400 W. Olive Avenue chatting about frivolous matters and then Bolo24 let some flatulence out and we all coughed and gagged, then Mr. Pinkus exclaimed, That's it! That's our Grateful Dead box set offering for 2018! Thank you, _____________ for the great idea!" "14"
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There was lots of chatter once the CD format came to be that the Dead would begin releasing shows from the vault. ..but nothing seemed to be happening quickly. Then one day it happened, One From the Vault was released and it was wonderful. Like Christmas. I think Dan Healy either did an interview or wrote the liner notes.. something to the effect of where to start? We know this circulates widely so why did we pick this show? Because it kicks ass.. (or something like that). Then soon after the Dicks Picks serious started.. although it got off to a wobbly start, it kicked ass too. To me it was more reminiscent of a kid in a candy store.. They could not come fast enough. In the beginning, before you had a hundred or two hundred Normanized shows to chose from.. I wore those CDs out with repeated listens. Then came Charlie Miller and the Archive and oh boy... then the FW and E72 boxes.. oh mama.
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....but Two From The Vault? I understood then, that things were getting serious. Where are we now? A Hundred and Fourteenth from the Vault? Because 14.
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....has anyone heard from Rich Gergelis lately? Starting to get concerned. He hooked me up with a lot of pristine Dead & Co soundboards last year. Texting him getting no responses.
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..the tapes were a revelation. I came across them about 1987-first of all in a shop in Manchester, where someone was selling hundreds of live shows on tape from so many bands-including The Dead. Shortly after that, I think through a fanzine called Spiral Light, I came across someone who was running a tape library. Steve Green, his name was. He had a list of shows, and he would record them for you if you sent him the blanks and postage. Brilliant-it was how I first heard Binghampton May 1970, February 11th, 13th and 14th 1970 and April 28th and 29th 1971 shows-quite a few actually. Up until then it had just been the official albums for me. I often wonder what happened to him-and all the other people who contributed to Spiral Light. They really did turn me on to a deeper sense of who The Dead were.
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Dancing In The Street got me dancin' in the livin' room.....My 1st Listen to this one, Great Show!!!!
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Sacred ground VGuy. The original recordings were once thought to be subpar, not worthy of release.. Along came the late, great sound Warlock Don Pearson (RIP) and the rest is history. ______________________ Per Wikipedia: The concert was recorded on a then-state-of-the-art, one-inch 8-track tape machine that was supplied by the band's record label, Warner Bros. The record company also insisted on supplying engineers who turned out to be unfamiliar with the close miking technique involved in recording rock music. Consequently, each of the eight tracks contained significant leakage from all of the other instruments in the band, resulting in severe phase cancellation problems. Almost twenty-four years later, Don Pearson and producer Dan Healy solved this problem by employing a B&K 2032 Fast Fourier transform (FFT) digital spectrum analyzer to measure the delay in time between the different microphones, using the track of bassist Phil Lesh as the time centerpiece. The delay times were fed into a TC1280 stereo digital delay, which, along with careful mixing, resulted in a nearly perfect stereo image. ______________________ And VGuy.. Rich is likely spending his days doing covert ops in Eastern Europe searching for the remaining missing reels.. but you mentioned his name likely blowing his cover. I hope Bolo, aka the fixer, isn't reading these boards. I suggest you lay low for a while, take some much needed time off. Stay away from the internet, phones, electricity and don't turn on the lights. Do you best to explain this to Mrs. VGuy and VGuy Jr. I'm sure this will all just blow over. BEWARE of people in clown costumes, however.. I cannot emphasize this enough. STAY AWAY FROM CLOWNS. Over and out.. Seriously, Two From the Vault gospel music for the soul, a short-cut to divinity. Edit: KC Jones.. 1970 Dancin' in the Streets speaks to me. And that Man's World.. If you play it loud enough the bones of James Brown himself can be heard grooving to the beat six feet under.
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So i just found my old copy of this CD. Not with all my other Dead releases... I know a lot of the songs have been released now on other full shows, but man the Midnight Hour, (31 minutes long) from Rio Nido, 9/3/67 is just awesome in so many ways!!! If you are a pig pen fan and never have listened, you will love it... I always wonder if the woman Pigpen tries so hard to get to dance, knows that she is on an album!!! bob t
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That is the best Midnight Hour to bounce into my ears..The whole CD is pretty damned good.
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....Fallout From The Phil Zone? My jewel case for that release broke a long time ago. Best Jack A Roe and Visions if I recall correctly. The ptb screwed up royally by not calling it Phallout From The Phil Zone if you ask me. No one asked me....
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Jim i also had the Hard to Handle audience tape, but when they put it on Fall out from the Phil Zone it was amazing!!! The Vision of Johanna is great also!! VGuy my case broke also that is why i didn't see it
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....and I'll go out and say a prayer for him. Thank you Dylan for being a muse for Jerry. Then Box Of Rain from '95 Soldier Field comes on and I get all melancholy. Highs and lows....
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I was fortunate to catch the break out of this tune at Hampton in 86.. At the time in all honestly, I had no idea the significance. I did not know it was the first time played of eight and besides the BCT version a month later that it wouldn't be played again for another nine years. My memory was just that it seemed a good show and we had a great time. Still.. the March 95 version from the Spectrum is the best and to this day makes the hair stand up on my neck and arms and gives me goosebumps whenever I listen to it. Phil knew his music and knew how to pick em. Who said they had no fire left in their bellies in 95, aged and frail as they were? Those late era songs, including So Many Roads culled from 93-95 appearing on the So Many Roads box set are gems indeed. I wonder what things would have been like if Jerry had stayed clean post his '86 health meltdown? wack fall the daddy-o..there's whiskey in the jar. Probably not worth thinking about.. coulda, woulda, shoulda. I'm happy for the shows I saw, the recordings left behind and the legacy that still burns bright. Thank god for incredible psychedelic music and the many friends and experiences we all absorbed along the way. Edit: Reeling in on the memories and playing this now.. What a great song.
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Well after not listening to Fall out from the Phil Zone for about 10 years, just listened to Visions of Johanna 3 times. Just listen to Jerry "ooh" before "The harmonicas play the skeleton keys and the rain" makes my hair stand up!!
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....Jerry bends his strings oh so eliquently throughout. Angels on a pin.
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Perhaps one of the last truly great moments... from our frail yet fearless leader. So I ask.. who is Gus West?
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I believe that only includes sober, fully clothed views. I suggest you review the dead.net and YouTube user agreement license and web cam agreement language. Of the half million views.. I expect between 30 and 1,978 are from me, the variance due to the fact I cannot remember stuff when my mind is noodling. To your benefit.. I expect as a Senator, those details might have eluded you. Not to worry, VGuy in 2018.. you have my vote and likely anyone else that has read this far into this thread.
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tomorrows the big day. all I have to say is if you aren't too much into the release right now, listen to some of what is on the archive then play the official. the one on the archive is dog doo doo
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Without question, the last great moment. I was lucky enoughy to catch it. Still not sure how he pulled that one off. I'll take it over the Unbroken breakout all day long. Just a beautiful song. Visions and She Belongs to Me are by far the two ballads that standout over all my years of seeing shows.
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What an unexpected treat, seeing a clip of Ozric Tentacles on here. They were far and away the best British band of the 90s. They seem to have been inspired by the aforementioned Hawkwind, although they are a bit more sophisticated musically, and are almost entirely instrumental. Still going-still making great music. They were probably inspired also by Gong and Steve Hillage, who are definitely worth checking out by anyone who likes this clip. But if I knew how to enclose video clips on here, the one I would chose would have to be the one of Hawkwind from 1972 doing Silver Machine. Be afraid, be very afraid...
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How long will it take for volume 26 to sell out, I say under 2 hours. April 16th, 1979 a real JAM session. It's Manic Monday DeadLand PLAY DEAD!!!!!!
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My favourite was Lazy River Road, which I don't think has ever been on an official release. Its years since I have heard it, so I don't know if I would still be as impressed as I was. I was disappointed that it wasn't included in any of the 30 Trips shows. Maybe no one else liked it!
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I love Lazy River Road as well. I too was a little bummed it didn't make it into the 30 Trips box, since that was the best chance of seeing that one. But Dave has said they just don't pick shows based on the songs they played. It's not over yet though...maybe it'll show up one day.
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It's the anniversary of a Grateful Dead Europe '72 show that came highly regarded by the author of this Rolling Stone article: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/20-essential-grateful-dead-show… The Dead in Denmark. I usually delve into Europe 72 extra heavy this time of year. It's always a pleasure listening to these multi-tracks.
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This is one of my favorites of the later Jerry/Hunter compositions too. It saw an official release in the So Many Roads Box Set as a studio rehearsal/outtake from the unfinished last album with Days between and Eternity supposed to be on there as well.
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I'm happy to see some love for Lazy River Road.. it has special meaning to me as my front yard is a river so the road leading my home is Lazy River Road to me. So Many Roads has meaning too. Someone put together this nice montage on YouTube. Fitting. oh.. DaveRock.. it's not hard to post videos from youtube here, but I don't think it works well using Microsoft Edge. If you are using Internet Explorer, from youtube click on the button that says Share and an option Embed appears. Click on that and it will create a little text statement. Just copy and paste that into the comment section of the post and viola.. a properly formatted clip appears like the one above. AJS, She Belongs To Me is another gem of a song. Jerry had a knack for covering Dylan Songs. They became his own, so much emotional content. She Belongs To Me was only played ten times. Such a beautiful song.. I caught the third to the last one played, very memorable.
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So many roads to ease my soul all I want is one to take me home... All I'm looking for is those hot air balloons. Thanks.
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What a special song and so well suited for Garcia's style. It occurred to me a while back that Jerry broke this one out when he was exhausted and, frankly, on the brink of death - both times. Played in March and April before his July collapse in 86 and then from February to July before his August death. I think that this was no coincidence and demonstrates just what the song meant to him and how he felt when he was inspired to perform it.
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Loved a lot of them...so many roads, lazy river road, days between were all beautiful and I was happy to hear them whenever played. Towards the end, Bobby started doing Take Me to the River which I saw live once. I think that was well received enough where it could have been a mainstay had the band continued to tour past 95...
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I read once "somewhere", Dylan said Jerry did the best covers of his songs.
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My 30th birthday, the Dead's 30th year. Their last show, my last show. So Many Roads, so bittersweet...
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I attended the two in Auurn Hills, the night that wasn't cancelled at Deer Creek (very weird and frieghtening experience) and the last two at Soldier Field. The Palace shows weren't too bad. The most passable of the final five I saw. The circumstances at Deer Creek overshadowed the gig itself, and the cancellation of the second night (because of so-called fans) really soured the vibe and scene in a way where I was convinced that the Dead needed to take a break to regroup. I recall the two shows at Soldier Field being dismal, with that Visions of Johanna from the first night being the only moment where Jerry showed passion and delivered a solid effort. The rest of that weekend, Jerry looked like he didn't even want to be there. Not even a shell of what he was just a few short years prior. In hindsight, it was painful to see Jerry go from a few of his last best years ('87-'91) to his deterioration to the end. Of course they still had some good shows left in them from '92 onward, but that was mostly the rest of the band stepping up to cover for him. '93 did have it's share of good shows though. The drpoff from '94 onward was drastic though. I was fortunate enough to see them grow from being the best kept secret in '84 through their true final peak of consistency, but after Brent died, in hindsight, Jerry seemed to lose the spark. Bruce helped bring some of that back, but after he left, it was a steady decline. Ironically, at the time I thought Vince was just finally coming into his own with the band at the very end. All in all, he did better than I gave him credit for, considering the shoes he had to fill. We'll never know now, had the band had taken a break prior to his second collapse in '92, whether Jerry would have bounced back. In some ways it's like he became a prisoner in his own career, which ultimately killed him in the long run. His continued addictions and stress of being "the man" at the center of a massive touring operation became too much of a burdon, as I see it. Jerry did manage to outlive many of his contemporaries though (Jimi, Janice, Morrison, Pigpen ect) and still have a 30 year profesional touring career, going out at the peak of popularity, which itself was no small fete. I'm also reminded of Johnny Winter, who also survived the '60's, and like Jerry, continued to peak, up through the '80's, only to gradually wither away once the '90's came to be. Very sad watching our heroes fall.
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got to click on daves picks drop down in music store to find it
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I dunno man. I think Vince was doing great work as early as summer '92. especially on Picasso Moon. i'll probly take a lot of flack for saying so but, Picasso Moon got better with Vince. it always came off sounding thin during brent's years to me. not sure why that would be. case in point: 6/20/92 Knickerbocker Arena.
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Worth the price of admission on 7-8-95 to get a Visions. Got a Take Me To The River in Memphis 95 (the Pyramid is next to the MS River). Caught the same 95 summer shows as SpaceBro. My first time to Deer Creek....and my last.
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Uh huh, blast blast blast Time to shut this thread down....
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