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    The unexpected return of the masters of the Grateful Dead's triumphant show at the Albuquerque Civic Auditorium, November 17, 1971, yields great rewards. The Dead came in HOT for their first New Mexico show. Aided by clarity and precision and abetted by confidence and focus, they finessed old standards with definitive takes. With Keith now blending in seamlessly on keys, the first set offered up a triple shot of electric Blues, an exceptional "You Win Again," and a stellar "One More Saturday Night" to wrap things up. And the second set, well, it might just be unlike any you've ever heard. Archivist David Lemieux urges you to turn it up and do it loudly. We won't dare spoil all the surprises, but pay special attention to the rippin' "Sugar Magnolia," the aggressively monstrous "The Other One," and the highly-danceable "Not Fade>GDTRFB>Not Fade." Rounding out the 3CDs, you'll find selections from Pigpen's return tour at Ann Arbor, MI, 12/14/71. Subscribers will get nearly all of the complete show as this year's bonus disc.

    As always, Dave's Picks Volume 26 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the original analog tapes by Jeffrey Norman and is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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    Good morning rockers!!! Don’t all excited. Put your hard drives away. I’m not coming back. But because of the foolish actions of a few, I now have to come back and “explain”. The following may be harsh, so if you have a weak stomach, change the channel now…………….. Imagine my surprise and bewilderment when I hear from secondary sources that a well intentioned but misguided individual feels it’s his prerogative to post what I naively believed was a personal and confidential communication, the posting of which has caused me significant distress and embarrassment. Thanks Phil Carson, thanks for your bad judgement, bad form, and bad kharma. Next time you feel like airing somebodys dirty laundry in public without knowing all the facts, maybe you’ll mind your own business and keep your mouth shut. The only real meaning to be gleaned from all this is that I can never trust you again. So be it…………. And by the way, thanks for all the subsequent posts, which read more like a series of obituaries than well earned accolades. Creepy, just plain creepy……………… I started a self-imposed sabbatical back in January. During that time, PRIOR to my stroke, I had pretty much decided I was not coming back to deadnet. I had no intention to post a teary farewell message, instead preferring----like many other old timers here have done----to merely fade away without significant fanfare. But because an arrogant few think that because I’ve chosen to resign from this shared madness of ours that I must be suffering from some mental disease or defect, now I have to give “reasons”. So here are just a few, if you take offense be a dear, be an adult and deal…… *** Regardless of the topic, the threads are dominated by a small group of people who, while very well intentioned, keep saying the same thing over and over. This gets old quickly………… *** “Dave’s Pick (fill in the number here) sucks, I could do a much better job picking shows for release”. No, you couldn’t. Let’s be real----we’re incredibly blessed that a large portion of the Dead’s career was well recorded, and we’ve had access to it. Grow up you whiners. Now, it’s almost spoon fed to us on a silver platter, and still people bitch whine moan and complain. You don’t want it---don’t buy it. Don’t like it---let it rot on the shelf. Or maybe you could engage in a better alternative----get off your lazy asses and build your own large, comprehensive Dead collection, then you don’t have to rely on TPTB for your Dead fix. *** “I want my (fill in the year here) box set and I want it now!”. OMG this whine is older than Methuselah, let’s grow up and move on…………. *** “Dark Star! Dark Star! Dark Star!”. Not every Dark Star was a gem. Personally, I would prefer a well played Other One to a poorly played Dark Star. But hey, that’s just me……………… *** “The Dead were in top form in 1989”. Oh PLEASE!, just drop it. Mostly proves that lots of Deadheads still take mind altering substances. These are from the people who wouldn’t know a good show if it bit them in the ass, or a bad show if it slapped them upside the head. Probably the same people who think that Barton Hall and Veneta----two of the most horribly overrated Dead shows ever---are deserving of “Classic” status. Also probably the same crowd that think that Albuquerque and Ann Arbor were wasted picks, but that a box set from 76 would be just wonderful. Dead on valium----no thanks, I’ll pass………………. *** “Garcia is a god and must be revered!!!”. Balderdash. Garcia was a flawed human being----just as we all are. Very good musician, yes, but not the center of the musical universe. You think I’m wrong? Then compare his work with the Dead vs his solo endeavors, where he usually lost the focus and edge that playing with the Dead gave him, where his shows ranged from “well, OK” to downright boring, and where he fell victim to his own worst devices and inclinations. And I saw lots and lots of Jerry shows over a wide range of years. My own opinion is that the people who deify Jerry really don’t understand what the Dead was----a synergistic musical phenomenon that relied on the input of all the participants. Lesh always got his props, but turning Garcia into a deity does great disrespect to Pigpen and Weir. *** Here’s the most important issue-----I don’t have anything new to add to the discussion. My mission here is complete. I have opened people’s eyes about the Dead’s music of 1971. I never claimed 1971 was their best year ever, only that it was my favorite year. I’ve posted numerous time about the important shows of the year, I’ve given away sh*tloads of 1971 recordings, and I’ve written long posts about the various runs that year---including the beloved Port Chester, which I still think will NEVER be released as a box set. Frankly, I’m a little tired of being the poster boy for 1971 Dead recordings. I’ve done my part for King and Country. I’ve distributed thousands of recordings and mentored large numbers of fellow 71 freaks. Mentorship is a large responsibility, and you need to choose your apprentices carefully. I have chosen well, I know they will carry on, never forgetting my mantra: “share everything with everybody, never asking for or expecting anything in return”. Given the nature of my profession and recent life events, I’m acutely aware that I’m closer to the end of my journey than to the beginning. That doesn’t mean I’m in a “dark place". In fact, I’m moving towards the light, the light that will guide and illuminate the rest of my life. I’m moving on into the sunlit uplands of my mind, something I should have done a very long time ago……… In closing, I would like to say that I have successfully poked the bear, hit the beehive with a stick, stirred up muddy waters, burned my bridges, and probably generally pissed people off. That was probably something that needed to be done. Now it’s time to move on to more pleasurable endeavors. However, anybody that wishes to respond or continue the discussion, let’s move it off line, via e-mail. Farewell my friends, take good care, live large, rock on, carry on, sleep in, love your significant other, play with your dogs and children, stay focused, play it loud and proud, don’t look back, the future is uncertain but the end is always near……………… Peter Gillespie, MD aka “Doc” P.S. I won the Box Set Contest. And no, I’m not telling you what it is. You’ll just hafta wait. Serve you right to suffer lmao…………… P.P.S. I have an unopened Roy Buchanon Town Hall CD and an unread/unused book about James Brown that a misguided soul sent me, if anybody would like these I will send them to you at my own expense. If nobody wants, since they have bad kharma stuck to them I’ll throw them in the trash. P.P.P.S. Last and final offer ever: anybody who ever needs or wants 1971 Dead shows, now or at any time in the future, I can be reached at: DocEleven@yahoo.com. I used to say “you know where to find me”, you just won’t find me here any more. Goodbye & good luck!!!!
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    Surprised no one's mentioned this yet but RIP Danny Kirwan. He may not be Peter Green but he made some nice contributions to The Mac both with Green and after. Phil said in an interview that he basically plagiarized Passenger from Station Man. Some other good songs from Kirwan: Coming Your Way, Sunny Side of Heaven, Sands of Time, Bare Trees. I'd love to hear anyone else's favorites. Fleetwood Mac had to have the most bizarre history of any rock band I can think of and that includes Danny Kirwans myriad of problems.
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    Really good Cumberland Blues and Big River's seem to have the same effect on me. Especially when they stretch them out. Great little first set jam vehicles (and I guess the occasional second set). Try not to tap your feet or move something.. in fact, I believe it's impossible to stay perfectly still when they are really getting it. Or perhaps that's not Juniper I taste in my gin. Whatever.. both great tunes and to me have a similar tempo and feel when they are really getting it.
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    A tough hit. One of the toughest in a long time. Watching old episodes of Parts Unknown. Just cool stuff. Very disturbing trend in suicides. Sorry for your guys Vguy. Toughest trophy in all of sport. Ovechkin deserved it. All that needs to be said. Most of all, best to Doc. Top guy on this site.
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    jerry poured me a bowl of cereal, jerry helped me file my taxes, jerry taught me how to parallel park, played super Mario 3 with me that one time....
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    ....if nothing else, their album covers kick ass. Orgasmatron anyone?
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    6/09/17, Tedeschi Trucks Band. Our heroes are mostly gone, but here's the real deal. Just go to Archive.org, All artists, Tedeschi Trucks Band, 2017-06-09. Recorded from a handful rows back. Go deh!
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    I don't recall 2009.
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    I don't recall 2009 being that weird!
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The unexpected return of the masters of the Grateful Dead's triumphant show at the Albuquerque Civic Auditorium, November 17, 1971, yields great rewards. The Dead came in HOT for their first New Mexico show. Aided by clarity and precision and abetted by confidence and focus, they finessed old standards with definitive takes. With Keith now blending in seamlessly on keys, the first set offered up a triple shot of electric Blues, an exceptional "You Win Again," and a stellar "One More Saturday Night" to wrap things up. And the second set, well, it might just be unlike any you've ever heard. Archivist David Lemieux urges you to turn it up and do it loudly. We won't dare spoil all the surprises, but pay special attention to the rippin' "Sugar Magnolia," the aggressively monstrous "The Other One," and the highly-danceable "Not Fade>GDTRFB>Not Fade." Rounding out the 3CDs, you'll find selections from Pigpen's return tour at Ann Arbor, MI, 12/14/71. Subscribers will get nearly all of the complete show as this year's bonus disc.

As always, Dave's Picks Volume 26 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the original analog tapes by Jeffrey Norman and is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Dicks Picks 12 Not even close. So fluid and unique. I can't think of any other version of a single song the band performed that surpasses all the other versions by such a wide margin.
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It was a trick question.. I was just looking for a new, good one I had not listened to before. ..as for the best Eyes.. Louisville.
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.... because you know it to be true. Holly Bowling is aces.
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I really don't know what is going on in Utah that you are referring about. Utah isn't above federal law either. I don't think people should go to prison either (prison and jail are two different things) but at the same time I really don't feel too bad if someone does cuz laws are not that hard to follow they really aren't. I mean people say its not addictive or habit forming but theres a law saying its illegal and people still do. so if it isn't, then its kinda boiled down to this: I'm having a REALLY hard time following this particular law and I'm getting in trouble cuz of it so it needs to be taken out lol.
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If you are not in favor of people going to jail, then you are arguing for decriminalization.. which basically means legalization. The alternatives involve jail time, one way or the other.
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So true.. but my favorite Eyes just so happens to be the one she plays on this video. Brings back memories. Now back to the best China Rider. Certainly more fun than discussing going to jail.
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No separation of church & state. The church is the state. one of us...one of us...one of us...
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....my take on Utah is/was their beer laws. Used to be you couldn't serve beer in that state above 3.5 ABV or some nonsense like that. And you could only have one drink on your table at a time. Now they brew some pretty strong brews. Holly is always on my radar for a show here. Yet to happen. She does a really, really good Terrapin Suite too. Busted her Better Left Unsung CD just now. Yup. Still grate. She tickles some pretty sweet Phish ivory keys as well....ala Tahoe Tweezerhttps://youtu.be/zxBJBAFcmSY
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....if anyone can show me a better one than '74 Providence, I'm all ears. Go on. Impress me. 420 smoking session will commence soon. I think I'll listen to some more King Crimson while I'm at it. Why knot?
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- '76 is definitely awesome. Caught me by surprise when the Betty's came out. A much slower burn, but some great moments, especially if you don't look in the usual places....- weed - no shame in saying no. - edibles.... convenience and stealth factor is a plus, but the delayed onset and the slow arc of the buzz kinda drones on (especially compared to the usual initial head-rush and then slow taper). Edibles are a commitment. - YES the 6/26 DP12 China>Rider melts lead - insanely good. A personal fav of mine is 12/1/79. - GD Fillmore vinyl - great idea. These shows are among the most amazing recordings of the 20th century. 2/27 and 2/28 are two of the best shows ever recorded. And the other two are similarly brilliant and make for a solid4-how box.
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....that 420 is the smallest number easily divisible by 1,2,3,4,5,6 and 7 but not easily divisible by 8th's? I know right? That's what I said....
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no separation of church & state? that's bullshit. if they have no separation of church & State then their churches can start paying taxes. i'm sure it has everything to do with those polygamous cults.
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Methinks VGuy's IQ went up several points since Vegas went legal. Not that he wasn't very smart before, just an observation.
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....I've been through southern Utah. Pretty weird vibe I had while I was there. Just kept driving. Faster.
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after watching some of that polygamy cult show on A & E, I would drive fast too vguy its creepy ass shit. I wouldn't feel safe there I would be pissing my pants if my car broke down in that area
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....I'm better at math whilst high. I know right? That's what I said!....outlawing porn? Good luck with that Utes.
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Avail as a 3CD set "Import" and it actually sounds pretty good.
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I am very glad I live in Washington state. if I can buy all the guns and ammunition I want (with constitutional blessing) and I can buy all the alcohol I want and I can buy all the tobacco I want then I am glad I can buy all the cannabis I want and smoke all the cannabis I want.
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I used quote marks for that cuz people say playboy is porn (it isn't....or at least not since I last checked)
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Hi All, I am diverting from the topic at hand just to mention that Deadbase 50 is on sale at Amazon. There is a promo code to enter after you set up purchase- 50DEAD420. The code is for half off, so it comes out to $45, plus shipping. I think this is a great deal. This sale is is running from 4/19 through 4/21. I just came across it today and I put my order in. I thought I would pass it off to all of you since it was being discussed a few pages ago. I have been wanting to get this for a while, and I wanted share with all of you in case anybody else was in the market for it as well.
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What about Gainesville?
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.... Gainesville this, Gainesville that. Where's the Baked Alaska box? Hmmmm? Where's that? ;)....the 5.10.80 China -> Rider is pretty strong. Good call stolzfus. In fact, that entire second set looks tasty. No offense King Crimson. Squirrel!!
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I agree that the China > Rider for 6/26/74 (DP 12) is up there, especially because it starts off with a jam first then goes into the China Cat. I have also thought that the China > Rider from Veneta (8/27/72) was pretty incendiary (yay! Almost Famous reference!) and it served in many ways in my opinion as the launching point for that show. Another one I find to be pretty good is the version on The Grateful Dead Movie (10/17/74). It might be that the video aids to it for me, but that one comes off really well. Also the version from 5/6/80 which is Road Trips V.3 N.4. from my Alma Mater is another good one. First time I heard that was back in the tape trading days where I got an audience tape of that show. The audience tapes as well matrix mixes can add a different perspective on the show. I know many of you have commented on that before. On the tape I had, it was very easy to hear the interplay between the band and the crowd. I distinctly remember the crowd being very heightened and as Rider was peaking. After all the lyrics had been delivered, the band really rides the crowds excitement and pushed the crescendo both longer and louder. I don't own the Road Trips release of this show, which represents another one I should not have passed on, but given that I have not heard this in a long while. I will likely wait to until Real Gone reissues it as they are working their way backwards with the RTs, but I might need to visit the Archive to listen to the audience source soon.
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5.10.80 Hartford Civic Centersecond set . China Cat Sunflower -> I Know You Rider Feel Like A Stranger -> Comes A Time -> Estimated Prophet -> He's Gone -> Uncle John's Band -> Drumz -> Not Fade Away -> Sugar Magnolia . Alabama Getaway -> One More Saturday Knight . Look at all those beautiful ->'s. stolzfus. You are da man! The Jim Wise recording I'm listening to features several firework explosions. A good one occurs in the middle of Comes A Time. Hard to beat a sweet aud. That Times -> Estimated segue was nice.
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This is easily if not best china cat/I know you riders in existence. They picked the delicate intro to perfection and this version out of all others was used for the final selection of Europe 72. Jim
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DP12 is also my no-brainer favorite but I also love DP10 (12/29/77) - it’s a powerful version, maybe because they hadn’t played it in a long time. Check out the “cool Colorado rain” part... makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck every time.
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Catching up.5-10-80 China->Rider. I've only got the second set but boy-oh-boy is it a doozey. Got mine from the good ole CAFE'. It's there if you're inclined. Get some :o) ...Europe '72 China->Rider is still my favorite.
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Got the box here in my local record store in germany for around 55€, quite a fair price Cheers and happy weekend
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The ones I can remember off the top of my head as being particularly great are also 26th June 1974 and 27th August 1972. Especially the film of the 1972 one at Veneta, which is probably my favourite film clip of the band. That or the Johnny B. Goode encore at Winterland New Years 1978. Generally, I like the 1972-1974 versions. (I'm back on China-Rider). The show I am listening to at the moment, Frankfurt 26th April 1972 features a good version. In fact it features a good version of everything played. The show is renowned for great versions of The Other One and Lovelight-but the whole show sparkles. Every time I play a show from this tour, especially after a break of a week or two, it seems like the best show of the run.
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It seems a bit pricey to me. There is only one store that has a copy near me, as far as I know, and that is about 40 odd miles away. I phoned up the shop this morning, and the girl I spoke to told me they only had the one. She said people had been queuing up outside since 4.00am this morning, and by the time I go there it would probably be gone. So I stayed home! I' be looking on ebay and Amazon now.
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Favorites: 5/3/72 2/28/73 3/23/74 6/26/74 12/1/79 7/17/89 4/1/90
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12/29/77
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Infant10/31/69 San Jose 12/31/69 Boston Tea Party 2/14/70 FE, NY 5/14/70 Merrimack, MO Adolescence 5/24/72 London 5/3/72 Paris 8/27/72 Veneta Teenager - really any from 73 through 74 6/26/74 Providence 6/22/73 PNE 2/9/73 Palo Alto 5/17/74 PNE 11/11/73 Winterland 10/20/74 Winterland Prom 12/29/77 Workingmans, paying the bills. 8/7/82 Alpine 10/10/82 Frost 6/15/85 Greek 10/18/89 Spectrum 6/17/89 Alpine (checking out 5/10/80 now, thanks all) Touch of Grey, Senior Years 6/16/90 Mountain View 9/20/90 MSG 4/1/90 Omni I think I left off a few 'musts'. Oh well.. it's nice out, I'm heading outside.. music in hand.
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ah... oft overlooked. VGuy reminded me last year to put this in rotation, and I did. It's on my favorite waterproof shuffle, which means it gets steady rotation during watersport activities. The whole show is simply classic.. a bright, quality China Rider, one of the best Lovelights of the tour (Lovelight > GDTRFB is stupendous), the only DS>TOO of the tour. What a show.. a 99.9 of 100 and a desert island must have. In fact.. I am grabbing the device that has this show on it, so it's getting hit in about an hour. A tip of the hat to SimonRob.
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Love the May 1980's, they are loose and slinky, and on fire! The growth of Stranger is intense. Weird, as I get older, and where I live, I do truly Feel Like a Stranger. Sojourn on my friends!
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But glue is still legal. Weed should be legal just as alcohol, nicotine, and caffeine are. Some people are more prone to addictive personalities (and some choose gambling, skydiving, extreme sports, sex, etc to get their rush rather than substances) which is why it is necessary to have programs in place to help them overcome their addiction. But there are also many people who can use weed without moving on to crack, heroin, meth, etc. Those people shouldn’t be penalized because there are other people who couldn’t control themselves. (Just getting caught up on the posts, been a little busy lately) Got to run, found a record store that is holding a FW vinyl for me......
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As north-west Europe currently basks in record-breaking temperatures (up to 29 C / 84 F) it is hard to believe just how cold it was at Bickershaw 46 years ago. Global warming? Jus' kiddin'. At least by the last day the weather had relented, even if it remained horribly cold. A fine selection performed that day: Brinsley Schwartz, Country Joe McDonald, The New Riders and our heroes. Check out Brinsley Schwartz if you have never heard their music. Mr. Schwartz himself and Bob Andrews subsequently became members of Graham Parker's excellent Rumour while Nick Lowe went on to solo success. As always at large gatherings, Country Joe's Fish Cheer got the crowd going. The sunny California sounds of the New Riders would have been better in Californian temperatures, but nothing could stop the Dead producing a top-notch performance for many hours, but it seemed to be over far too soon. A memorable day indeed.
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Took me a while and I did not check all numbers...but divisible by 8ths, too funny! We be connected, so the days of crazy 8ths is long gone. Speaking of which I got to try shatter a few weeks back. One toke over the line indeed. I told my buddy a few days later, I thought I was going to have to call the ambOlence. He had something called a nectar collector. First time I had seen that contraption, just wow. Smoking Crater indeed. https://www.ebay.com/i/273127230622?chn=ps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tj96Tau44OA
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I don't own a turntable, but I went down and picked up a copy anyway. The guy recommended Jeff Buckley. Anybody ever heard his stuff?
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Jeff was Tim Buckley’s son. I’d recommend Tim over Jeff, as he had a much broader, more diverse and interesting catalogue:Studio albums Tim Buckley (1966) Goodbye and Hello (1967) Happy Sad (1969) Blue Afternoon (1969) Lorca (1970) Starsailor (1970) Greetings from L.A. (1972) Sefronia (1973) Look at the Fool (1974) Live albums Dream Letter: Live in London 1968 (1990) Peel Sessions (1991) Live at the Troubadour 1969 (1994) Honeyman: Live 1973 (1995) Once I Was (1999) Copenhagen Tapes (2000) Live at the Folklore Center 1967 (Tompkins Square, 2009)
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All the E72 DarkStars are unique of course. Bickershaw just SOUNDS outdoors and muddy and extra loosey goosey. Maybe that Star-Other One has the most free "space" of any E72 show?! Sweet stuff.
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