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    The unexpected return of the masters of the Grateful Dead's triumphant show at the Albuquerque Civic Auditorium, November 17, 1971, yields great rewards. The Dead came in HOT for their first New Mexico show. Aided by clarity and precision and abetted by confidence and focus, they finessed old standards with definitive takes. With Keith now blending in seamlessly on keys, the first set offered up a triple shot of electric Blues, an exceptional "You Win Again," and a stellar "One More Saturday Night" to wrap things up. And the second set, well, it might just be unlike any you've ever heard. Archivist David Lemieux urges you to turn it up and do it loudly. We won't dare spoil all the surprises, but pay special attention to the rippin' "Sugar Magnolia," the aggressively monstrous "The Other One," and the highly-danceable "Not Fade>GDTRFB>Not Fade." Rounding out the 3CDs, you'll find selections from Pigpen's return tour at Ann Arbor, MI, 12/14/71. Subscribers will get nearly all of the complete show as this year's bonus disc.

    As always, Dave's Picks Volume 26 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the original analog tapes by Jeffrey Norman and is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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    https://youtu.be/MHo1fNnXFVU ;)
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    Ahhh, Terrapin... Deer Creek is a sensitive subject for me. My last show, and I knew it, walking out of the venue, that the scene had crashed and Jerry was gone. That being said, there is a crappy sounding monitor mix up on archive.org -https://archive.org/details/gd1995-07-02.monitor-sbd.unknown.74201.sbeo… its dubious sound quality, I find this recording really interesting, because you can hear the band members talking to each other, without being heard by the audience. During Desolation Row, you hear the crowd roaring and Phil (I think) saying "Check out the back wall," as the gate-crashing idiots stormed the venue. This was the beginning of the end of the Dead, unravelling in real time on the recording. Phil handled the situation with grace and humor. Coming out of space, Jerry pretty much falls asleep, and Phil casts the understatement of the evening, "shall we move on to something else?" only to segue into a cringeworthy Attics. During the show, I remember hearing the first notes of Scarlet and getting excited, only to see Jerry mangle the words and chords, while dicking around with his new Digitech whammy pitch bend pedal with little success. By the end of Fire, I was practically in tears with disappointment, but even more disturbed with Jerry's state of being. Yeah, I know, there was a death threat before the show, but that ain't an excuse to double up on the Persian. I've listened to recordings of this show a few times and it's always bittersweet for me. Good luck getting a real soundboard! It's an important recording in Dead history, but imho, for all the wrong reasons.
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    shirdeep. Thanks for sharing. Great story. I've never heard or read anything Rush/Dead related...
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    o3 o3 92 omni from neil pearts book traveling music "In 1990, Mickey had co-written a book (with Jay Stevens) on the history of drums and rhythm, artfully interwoven with his own autobiography and some of the Grateful Dead’s history, called ‘Drumming at the Edge of Magic.’ When [Peart's daughter] Selena was looking for a topic for a junior high science project, I suggested something I had learned about from the book, the “Theory of Entrainment.” The theory held that any two mechanisms, including humans, tended to synchronize their rhythms, to “prefer” them, as compared to beating against each other. Thus two analog clocks placed in proximity would eventually begin to tick in sync with each other, neighboring heart cells tended to pulse together, women living together often synchronized their menstrual cycles. And thus, thought Mickey, he and the other Grateful Dead drummer, Bill Kreutzmann, should (and did) link their arms before a concert, to try to synchronize their biorhythms with the Theory of Entrainment. Selena put two old-fashioned alarm clocks, with keys and springs and bells, beside two digital bedside clocks, and made a poster to describe the principle. I think she got a good mark. "For my part, I was so impressed with the scholarship and artistry in the book that I wrote Mickey a letter of appreciation, and we began to correspond. "Later that year, in 1992 it happened that both our bands were playing at the Omni Arena in Atlanta on successive nights, the Dead one night and Rush the next, and Mickey and I invited each other to our shows. On our off night I went to see the Dead play, accompanied by our tour manager, Liam, and what an experience THAT turned out to be. "Liam and I arrived just as the show was starting, and gave our names at the backstage door. One of their production crew gave us our guest passes and escorted us to our seats – right behind the two drum risers, in the middle of the stage! Liam and I looked at each other with raised eyebrows as we sat down, and noticed that right behind us was the production office, with telephones, fax machines, and long-haired, bearded staff dealing with communications and logistics (presumably, though the production office is normally a room backstage, where such work can on APART from the concert), and we also heard there was a telephone line run through the crowd to the front-of-house mixing platform. Catering people walked across the oriental rugs that covered the stage, delivering salads and drinks to various musicians and technicians, even during songs, and meanwhile, the band played on. Lights swept the arena, reflecting off white, amorphous “sails” suspended above the stage, and clouds of marijuana smoke drifted through the beams and assailed our nostrils with pungent, spicy aroma. "My familiarity with the Grateful Dead’s music began with their first album, back in ’67, when my first band used to play several of their songs, “Morning Dew,” “New New Minglewood Blues,” and “Good Morning, Little Schoolgirl. "And they played and sang really well, too, augmented by the soulful keyboards and accordion of Bruce Hornsby. The drummers, Mickey and Bill, became an interlocking, mutually complementary rhythmic unit, right out of the Theory of Entrainment. "Liam and I couldn’t see much of the “front line” guys, the guitarists and vocalists, because of the wall of amplifiers, but occasionally, on the stage-left side, the spotlights caught an unmistakable bush of gray hair that could only have been the legendary Jerry Garcia. "During intermission, Mickey invited Liam and me to his dressing room in the familiar backstage corridors of the Omni (each band member had a separate room, which hinted at certain “divisions” among them; after Jerry Garcia’s tragic death, I read a story asserting that he hadn’t enjoyed touring very much, and when the others wanted to go on the road again, he responded, “What, they need MORE money?”). Mickey was a friendly, outgoing man, with an engaging smile and an intense, joyful enthusiasm for percussion. With all my African travels and interest in African percussion music, and Mickey’s musical explorations in print and on records, we shared a few things we knew and cared about, and had a good conversation until they were called to the stage to begin their second set. "Liam and I returned to our center-stage reserved seats, and I noticed that not only did the band members have separate dressing rooms, but the wings of the stage were lined with small tents of black cloth, one for each of the musicians to retire to during the songs on which they didn’t play, and have some privacy. During an acoustic number in the second part of the show, Mickey disappeared into his little tent, then motioned for me to join him. We talked for a few minutes about drums and drumming, and I told him how much I was enjoying their performance, then he went back up to the riser and started playing again. "Next night, the positions were reversed. That tour ('Roll The Bones'), we had a metal gridwork runway (dubbed the “chicken run” by the crew) about four feet high, running across the width of our stage behind my drum riser, where Geddy and Alex could wander while they played. During the show, I looked back and saw Mickey, under the chicken run, smiling out between its black curtains. He was just as close to me as I had been to him, and he seemed to be enjoying himself."
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    sorry to bother people but does anyone have a SBD "scarlet Begonias" track for 7/2/95 Deer Creek? my copy is missing it.
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    I was shopping around a few weeks ago, and saw they have Signals available in 5.1 Surround mix, but only as part of the "Sector 3" box set (which also includes Signals regular, Grace Under Pressure, Power Windows, Hold Your Fire, and A Show Of Hands). Would love to get my hands on the Signals Surround mix, but I already have those other albums, so...no go. Wish they'd release them all in 5.1 a la carte. Steve Wilson did the remixing, and I'm impressed with his work on the early Yes records. Tales From Topographic Oceans never sounded so good. But what Rush really needs to do now, is start releasing shows from their archive. Let's have a show from the Moving Pictures Tour in its entirety. The 2112 anniversary edition in 5.1 Surround sound also had some bonus tracks, which included the opening of one of the shows off the Moving Pictures tour: Overture (Northland Coliseum, Edmonton, AB – June 25, 1981) The Temples of Syrinx (Northland Coliseum, Edmonton, AB – June 25, 1981) 80sFan - I'm intrigued by your comment about the Charlie Miller copy sounding better than the release. Must check it out....
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    Been a while since I heard DP 18, but I have recently listened to the Charlie Miller remaster of 2/3/78 and it might even sound better than the official release. Considering DP 18 is out of print, check out the archive. Maybe the best all time Music Never Stopped...
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    Been a while since I heard DP 18, but I have recently listened to the Charlie Miller remaster of 2/3/78 and it might even sound better than the official release. Considering DP 18 is out of print, check out the archive. Maybe the best all time Music Never Stopped...
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    ...your welcome. I’m a member of the org. A beautiful group of people all acting as one, love! :) ....I still can’t believe the shrine vinyl didn’t sell out as well. This record, from start to finish, art wise/sound/ect. Is A+++++ Grab one , you won’t regret it! ;)
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    The Rush webpage offers no info but the description on Amazon says remastered on 200g vinyl at Abbey Road Studios. I also wanted All The Worlds A Stage but the 200g vinyl on Amazon is only for Prime Members which seems stupid. I’ll buy it elsewhere.
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The unexpected return of the masters of the Grateful Dead's triumphant show at the Albuquerque Civic Auditorium, November 17, 1971, yields great rewards. The Dead came in HOT for their first New Mexico show. Aided by clarity and precision and abetted by confidence and focus, they finessed old standards with definitive takes. With Keith now blending in seamlessly on keys, the first set offered up a triple shot of electric Blues, an exceptional "You Win Again," and a stellar "One More Saturday Night" to wrap things up. And the second set, well, it might just be unlike any you've ever heard. Archivist David Lemieux urges you to turn it up and do it loudly. We won't dare spoil all the surprises, but pay special attention to the rippin' "Sugar Magnolia," the aggressively monstrous "The Other One," and the highly-danceable "Not Fade>GDTRFB>Not Fade." Rounding out the 3CDs, you'll find selections from Pigpen's return tour at Ann Arbor, MI, 12/14/71. Subscribers will get nearly all of the complete show as this year's bonus disc.

As always, Dave's Picks Volume 26 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the original analog tapes by Jeffrey Norman and is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Dicks Picks 12 Not even close. So fluid and unique. I can't think of any other version of a single song the band performed that surpasses all the other versions by such a wide margin.
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It was a trick question.. I was just looking for a new, good one I had not listened to before. ..as for the best Eyes.. Louisville.
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.... because you know it to be true. Holly Bowling is aces.
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I really don't know what is going on in Utah that you are referring about. Utah isn't above federal law either. I don't think people should go to prison either (prison and jail are two different things) but at the same time I really don't feel too bad if someone does cuz laws are not that hard to follow they really aren't. I mean people say its not addictive or habit forming but theres a law saying its illegal and people still do. so if it isn't, then its kinda boiled down to this: I'm having a REALLY hard time following this particular law and I'm getting in trouble cuz of it so it needs to be taken out lol.
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If you are not in favor of people going to jail, then you are arguing for decriminalization.. which basically means legalization. The alternatives involve jail time, one way or the other.
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So true.. but my favorite Eyes just so happens to be the one she plays on this video. Brings back memories. Now back to the best China Rider. Certainly more fun than discussing going to jail.
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No separation of church & state. The church is the state. one of us...one of us...one of us...
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....my take on Utah is/was their beer laws. Used to be you couldn't serve beer in that state above 3.5 ABV or some nonsense like that. And you could only have one drink on your table at a time. Now they brew some pretty strong brews. Holly is always on my radar for a show here. Yet to happen. She does a really, really good Terrapin Suite too. Busted her Better Left Unsung CD just now. Yup. Still grate. She tickles some pretty sweet Phish ivory keys as well....ala Tahoe Tweezerhttps://youtu.be/zxBJBAFcmSY
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....if anyone can show me a better one than '74 Providence, I'm all ears. Go on. Impress me. 420 smoking session will commence soon. I think I'll listen to some more King Crimson while I'm at it. Why knot?
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- '76 is definitely awesome. Caught me by surprise when the Betty's came out. A much slower burn, but some great moments, especially if you don't look in the usual places....- weed - no shame in saying no. - edibles.... convenience and stealth factor is a plus, but the delayed onset and the slow arc of the buzz kinda drones on (especially compared to the usual initial head-rush and then slow taper). Edibles are a commitment. - YES the 6/26 DP12 China>Rider melts lead - insanely good. A personal fav of mine is 12/1/79. - GD Fillmore vinyl - great idea. These shows are among the most amazing recordings of the 20th century. 2/27 and 2/28 are two of the best shows ever recorded. And the other two are similarly brilliant and make for a solid4-how box.
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....that 420 is the smallest number easily divisible by 1,2,3,4,5,6 and 7 but not easily divisible by 8th's? I know right? That's what I said....
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no separation of church & state? that's bullshit. if they have no separation of church & State then their churches can start paying taxes. i'm sure it has everything to do with those polygamous cults.
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Methinks VGuy's IQ went up several points since Vegas went legal. Not that he wasn't very smart before, just an observation.
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....I've been through southern Utah. Pretty weird vibe I had while I was there. Just kept driving. Faster.
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after watching some of that polygamy cult show on A & E, I would drive fast too vguy its creepy ass shit. I wouldn't feel safe there I would be pissing my pants if my car broke down in that area
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....I'm better at math whilst high. I know right? That's what I said!....outlawing porn? Good luck with that Utes.
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Avail as a 3CD set "Import" and it actually sounds pretty good.
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I am very glad I live in Washington state. if I can buy all the guns and ammunition I want (with constitutional blessing) and I can buy all the alcohol I want and I can buy all the tobacco I want then I am glad I can buy all the cannabis I want and smoke all the cannabis I want.
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I used quote marks for that cuz people say playboy is porn (it isn't....or at least not since I last checked)
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Hi All, I am diverting from the topic at hand just to mention that Deadbase 50 is on sale at Amazon. There is a promo code to enter after you set up purchase- 50DEAD420. The code is for half off, so it comes out to $45, plus shipping. I think this is a great deal. This sale is is running from 4/19 through 4/21. I just came across it today and I put my order in. I thought I would pass it off to all of you since it was being discussed a few pages ago. I have been wanting to get this for a while, and I wanted share with all of you in case anybody else was in the market for it as well.
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What about Gainesville?
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.... Gainesville this, Gainesville that. Where's the Baked Alaska box? Hmmmm? Where's that? ;)....the 5.10.80 China -> Rider is pretty strong. Good call stolzfus. In fact, that entire second set looks tasty. No offense King Crimson. Squirrel!!
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I agree that the China > Rider for 6/26/74 (DP 12) is up there, especially because it starts off with a jam first then goes into the China Cat. I have also thought that the China > Rider from Veneta (8/27/72) was pretty incendiary (yay! Almost Famous reference!) and it served in many ways in my opinion as the launching point for that show. Another one I find to be pretty good is the version on The Grateful Dead Movie (10/17/74). It might be that the video aids to it for me, but that one comes off really well. Also the version from 5/6/80 which is Road Trips V.3 N.4. from my Alma Mater is another good one. First time I heard that was back in the tape trading days where I got an audience tape of that show. The audience tapes as well matrix mixes can add a different perspective on the show. I know many of you have commented on that before. On the tape I had, it was very easy to hear the interplay between the band and the crowd. I distinctly remember the crowd being very heightened and as Rider was peaking. After all the lyrics had been delivered, the band really rides the crowds excitement and pushed the crescendo both longer and louder. I don't own the Road Trips release of this show, which represents another one I should not have passed on, but given that I have not heard this in a long while. I will likely wait to until Real Gone reissues it as they are working their way backwards with the RTs, but I might need to visit the Archive to listen to the audience source soon.
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5.10.80 Hartford Civic Centersecond set . China Cat Sunflower -> I Know You Rider Feel Like A Stranger -> Comes A Time -> Estimated Prophet -> He's Gone -> Uncle John's Band -> Drumz -> Not Fade Away -> Sugar Magnolia . Alabama Getaway -> One More Saturday Knight . Look at all those beautiful ->'s. stolzfus. You are da man! The Jim Wise recording I'm listening to features several firework explosions. A good one occurs in the middle of Comes A Time. Hard to beat a sweet aud. That Times -> Estimated segue was nice.
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This is easily if not best china cat/I know you riders in existence. They picked the delicate intro to perfection and this version out of all others was used for the final selection of Europe 72. Jim
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DP12 is also my no-brainer favorite but I also love DP10 (12/29/77) - it’s a powerful version, maybe because they hadn’t played it in a long time. Check out the “cool Colorado rain” part... makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck every time.
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Catching up.5-10-80 China->Rider. I've only got the second set but boy-oh-boy is it a doozey. Got mine from the good ole CAFE'. It's there if you're inclined. Get some :o) ...Europe '72 China->Rider is still my favorite.
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Got the box here in my local record store in germany for around 55€, quite a fair price Cheers and happy weekend
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The ones I can remember off the top of my head as being particularly great are also 26th June 1974 and 27th August 1972. Especially the film of the 1972 one at Veneta, which is probably my favourite film clip of the band. That or the Johnny B. Goode encore at Winterland New Years 1978. Generally, I like the 1972-1974 versions. (I'm back on China-Rider). The show I am listening to at the moment, Frankfurt 26th April 1972 features a good version. In fact it features a good version of everything played. The show is renowned for great versions of The Other One and Lovelight-but the whole show sparkles. Every time I play a show from this tour, especially after a break of a week or two, it seems like the best show of the run.
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It seems a bit pricey to me. There is only one store that has a copy near me, as far as I know, and that is about 40 odd miles away. I phoned up the shop this morning, and the girl I spoke to told me they only had the one. She said people had been queuing up outside since 4.00am this morning, and by the time I go there it would probably be gone. So I stayed home! I' be looking on ebay and Amazon now.
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Favorites: 5/3/72 2/28/73 3/23/74 6/26/74 12/1/79 7/17/89 4/1/90
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12/29/77
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Infant10/31/69 San Jose 12/31/69 Boston Tea Party 2/14/70 FE, NY 5/14/70 Merrimack, MO Adolescence 5/24/72 London 5/3/72 Paris 8/27/72 Veneta Teenager - really any from 73 through 74 6/26/74 Providence 6/22/73 PNE 2/9/73 Palo Alto 5/17/74 PNE 11/11/73 Winterland 10/20/74 Winterland Prom 12/29/77 Workingmans, paying the bills. 8/7/82 Alpine 10/10/82 Frost 6/15/85 Greek 10/18/89 Spectrum 6/17/89 Alpine (checking out 5/10/80 now, thanks all) Touch of Grey, Senior Years 6/16/90 Mountain View 9/20/90 MSG 4/1/90 Omni I think I left off a few 'musts'. Oh well.. it's nice out, I'm heading outside.. music in hand.
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ah... oft overlooked. VGuy reminded me last year to put this in rotation, and I did. It's on my favorite waterproof shuffle, which means it gets steady rotation during watersport activities. The whole show is simply classic.. a bright, quality China Rider, one of the best Lovelights of the tour (Lovelight > GDTRFB is stupendous), the only DS>TOO of the tour. What a show.. a 99.9 of 100 and a desert island must have. In fact.. I am grabbing the device that has this show on it, so it's getting hit in about an hour. A tip of the hat to SimonRob.
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Love the May 1980's, they are loose and slinky, and on fire! The growth of Stranger is intense. Weird, as I get older, and where I live, I do truly Feel Like a Stranger. Sojourn on my friends!
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But glue is still legal. Weed should be legal just as alcohol, nicotine, and caffeine are. Some people are more prone to addictive personalities (and some choose gambling, skydiving, extreme sports, sex, etc to get their rush rather than substances) which is why it is necessary to have programs in place to help them overcome their addiction. But there are also many people who can use weed without moving on to crack, heroin, meth, etc. Those people shouldn’t be penalized because there are other people who couldn’t control themselves. (Just getting caught up on the posts, been a little busy lately) Got to run, found a record store that is holding a FW vinyl for me......
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As north-west Europe currently basks in record-breaking temperatures (up to 29 C / 84 F) it is hard to believe just how cold it was at Bickershaw 46 years ago. Global warming? Jus' kiddin'. At least by the last day the weather had relented, even if it remained horribly cold. A fine selection performed that day: Brinsley Schwartz, Country Joe McDonald, The New Riders and our heroes. Check out Brinsley Schwartz if you have never heard their music. Mr. Schwartz himself and Bob Andrews subsequently became members of Graham Parker's excellent Rumour while Nick Lowe went on to solo success. As always at large gatherings, Country Joe's Fish Cheer got the crowd going. The sunny California sounds of the New Riders would have been better in Californian temperatures, but nothing could stop the Dead producing a top-notch performance for many hours, but it seemed to be over far too soon. A memorable day indeed.
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Took me a while and I did not check all numbers...but divisible by 8ths, too funny! We be connected, so the days of crazy 8ths is long gone. Speaking of which I got to try shatter a few weeks back. One toke over the line indeed. I told my buddy a few days later, I thought I was going to have to call the ambOlence. He had something called a nectar collector. First time I had seen that contraption, just wow. Smoking Crater indeed. https://www.ebay.com/i/273127230622?chn=ps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tj96Tau44OA
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I don't own a turntable, but I went down and picked up a copy anyway. The guy recommended Jeff Buckley. Anybody ever heard his stuff?
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Jeff was Tim Buckley’s son. I’d recommend Tim over Jeff, as he had a much broader, more diverse and interesting catalogue:Studio albums Tim Buckley (1966) Goodbye and Hello (1967) Happy Sad (1969) Blue Afternoon (1969) Lorca (1970) Starsailor (1970) Greetings from L.A. (1972) Sefronia (1973) Look at the Fool (1974) Live albums Dream Letter: Live in London 1968 (1990) Peel Sessions (1991) Live at the Troubadour 1969 (1994) Honeyman: Live 1973 (1995) Once I Was (1999) Copenhagen Tapes (2000) Live at the Folklore Center 1967 (Tompkins Square, 2009)
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All the E72 DarkStars are unique of course. Bickershaw just SOUNDS outdoors and muddy and extra loosey goosey. Maybe that Star-Other One has the most free "space" of any E72 show?! Sweet stuff.
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