Grateful Dead

4/21/71

there's probably some economic strategy exactly when to announce or maybe they just like to watch us squirm...far out, man.

“ it’s either being Norminized, or is slated to be,...they are deciding the packaging and layout. Why wait”Why indeed my good man? Maybe deep down Dave suffers from some horrible neurosis whereby he only feels pleasure the more we suffer ; )

Thanks Jeff,Been really enjoying this. Love old tales from the Good ole days..... Can’t wait for number three...

Point taken, your logic is correct, and the food analogy helps.I guess I’m biased by the ASSUMPTION, gulp, that most of the folks into the dead, like their music, or “that kind of food” already, so to not even give some things they haven’t tried a chance is sad. Its not like we’re talking about diehard Motörhead fans say, who won’t even think of listening to the Dead... and hey, “ it doesn’t matter anyway” right?

Indeed, no doubt about that, but....My understanding was JG wasn’t fully back off the wagon until??....whenever, supposedly not until awhile after the new lineup. In fact, wasn’t that partially why Bruce left? Wasn’t early 90s when he was diving and being healthy, and playing great music with others i.e., Grisman So with that timeline I think one could argue that there could be other variables BEFORE the H became an overwhelming factor again. I think perhaps the idea that perhaps they had made a bad choice, or not taking a break, combined with all that loss he was suffering, could have been a factor for his giving up and maybe thinking “fug it, this ain’t happing no more so why not” I know, that’s still Junkie logic, but.... When your that tight with musicians, it’s like being married to several people. It can be an indescribable bond. Night after night your used to your “partner” being there for good or for ill, then all of a sudden their not, and the dude there instead perhaps ain’t doing “it” for you....well, people go back to drugs for a lot less. Then factor in all the other losses; Kieth, Pig, Sonny, Bill G, etc......

It's all good man! Still, I think there's a difference between "I won't listen to anything after 1980", and "I listened to post 1980, and I don't like it"(not my opinion, btw...saw some great shows in the 80s) I am however being close minded when it comes to food: some ppl swear by tripes and sweetbread, still I refuse to try it. Just like I love steak tartare, but my wife refuses to try it. I digress...it's lunchtime in the Bay Area.

Well Of course there WILL BE A BOX SET THIS YEAR....heck, it says it on the MUATM info. Not sure if the bolo just likes being cute or a constant tease....I think its pretty obvious the BOX SET will be another SUMMER '89 box set with 7/7/89 as one of the shows. Last year the MUATM show was 7/12/89, which was announced as the DC'89 BOX Set a short time later....I'm assuming same situation with the 2018 MUATM showing of 7/7/89....and by the way 1989 multi-track recorded shows are just about the pinnacle of the GD (although SPRING 1990 is right there also)!! Now if the rumors of a FALL '80 Box Set turn out to be true, then OH JOY!!

At some point during VW's time with the band H had to enter the picture again. Heroin, by it's very nature, makes one insular...the importance of everyone and everything diminishes the deeper their addiction(s) becomes. It could be as simple (and sad) that JG &VW just didn't have enough 'clean' playing time together.

I’m not dissing your taste. We’ve had this discussion here before. I think Jim summed it up; we all have favorites etc, that’s great, but let’s face it, I read here almost everyday where people say stuff like “ I won’t listen to anything after 80....” that imho, is being closed minded......saying you won’t listen to D&C cause there’s no Phil, imho is closed minded. I’m talking about extreme black or white thinking that unfortunately permeates our society today.It’s ok to see things in gray, it does not all have to be all or nothing, does it? For many, one of the great things about the dead was being open to the beauty and magic that is present in all things, it’s just a matter of perspective. I’ve been turned on to more things that have nothing directly to do with the dead, and that chances are I would not have been turned on too, if not for this GD cultural openness.... It’s a free country, and I would never tell anyone what to do or not do. I just feel sad for folks who totally dismiss stuff, and thus miss out, sometimes without even trying is all I meant.....I know this because we’ve all done this at some point, and I know I have regrets because I was closed minded about stufff.... I’ve never been a huge fan of the “Mickey Godchaux” band. Doesn’t mean I don’t like it etc., just not MY favorite, but thanks to all y’all and my opening my mind a bit, I’ve been able to have a new appreciation for this era, where at times I totally closed my self off from this great music...... Sorry, never meant to insult... Peace!