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    The unexpected return of the masters of the Grateful Dead's triumphant show at the Albuquerque Civic Auditorium, November 17, 1971, yields great rewards. The Dead came in HOT for their first New Mexico show. Aided by clarity and precision and abetted by confidence and focus, they finessed old standards with definitive takes. With Keith now blending in seamlessly on keys, the first set offered up a triple shot of electric Blues, an exceptional "You Win Again," and a stellar "One More Saturday Night" to wrap things up. And the second set, well, it might just be unlike any you've ever heard. Archivist David Lemieux urges you to turn it up and do it loudly. We won't dare spoil all the surprises, but pay special attention to the rippin' "Sugar Magnolia," the aggressively monstrous "The Other One," and the highly-danceable "Not Fade>GDTRFB>Not Fade." Rounding out the 3CDs, you'll find selections from Pigpen's return tour at Ann Arbor, MI, 12/14/71. Subscribers will get nearly all of the complete show as this year's bonus disc.

    As always, Dave's Picks Volume 26 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the original analog tapes by Jeffrey Norman and is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • Cousins Of The…
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    I usually stay away from '83-'85; I can't listen Jerry's damaged vocal cords, 85 was the absolute worst for Jerry's voice; painful to look at as well...
  • Oroborous
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    Heres a thought. Has anyone ever considered that in some ways 77 and 87 can be seen as somewhat comparable...Musically speaking, the scene not so much although both were peaks in popularity and brought loads of new fish onboard. But both keep things pretty focused and extremely tight. Not much psychedelic noodling if you will.... Something different to bat around here....
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    Well said as usual Mr Jimmy
  • JimInMD
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    I get that too.. I was happy to see a couple raunchy barn burners on 30 trips - 10/12/84 and 9/18/87 come to mind. I have always been big on 85 for a few reasons. They really mixed up the song selection and setlists. There were a lot of break-outs and new songs added to the mix, I think there was a bit more consistency than 83 and 84. Finally.. the tapes, to me, sound just a little better. 84 (and 83) seemed to be a bit muddier.. not sure why. It was an interesting time in GD History.. perhaps it was as simple as they tried to put something fun and interesting together for the 20th anniversary. As for some of the other stuff.. hopefully we can move forward. ...if you get confused, listen to the music play.
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    Space, great comment, love that show...but who’s Kinger then, Fishman?
  • Oroborous
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    Sorry, just have to say who else but us/the dead would be contemplating the music being too pure....Man we are so blessed. “Oh, that show was too tight” hee-hee. Such problems... ; )
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    daverock, first have to declare that I love 85 partly because it was a real fun time to tour.My personal variables age etc., and the scene and energy and lets face it some of the a, extra curricular variables were through the roof. We were all (band and fans) often on the edge and so sometimes it could be amazing, and we’ll, sometimes it was pretty ugly...Hell there were times we weren’t sure Jer was going to make it, but there could be something about he/them being on that edge that often lent it self to the ol X factor...IMHO, it was sort of a peak before all the Touch craziness that almost recked the whole affair. It’s like the whole thing hit a level I don’t recall when we first started going to those one off I90 shows at the small War memorials back in the 70s etc. Hell those days shows often would barely sell out. Yes people got down, but overall the scene was more laid back, which is not a bad thing, it’s just that 85 was nucking futz! This is when Shakedown St. and camping and a whole “scene was building up” but one could argue it was like the Haight, where it was awesome, until it got too big and wasn’t.... Of course one could argue that we’re partially to blame for the scene getting too big and crazy, but it was a real gas until it got out of control....aaaa the hubris of youth. Used to think Weir was literal when he sang “too much of everything is just enough”, and maybe then he was, but now think maybe there was a wee bit of tounge in cheek perhaps. I’m sure Bob probably wouldn’t say, because he has often not commented on song meaning since a great song has many meanings, especaily in different context. Why Dylan is such a monster! But anyway, that Too Much vibe seemed prevalent throughout the whole scene.... I’m no t that informened comprehensively as far as tapes etc. but check out 4-7, 6-27, 6-28, 6-30 and 7-1-85 for some great shows...oh, everyone should sometime check out 7-13-85. One of best first sets ever, second set ok, nice little Cryptical, TOO etc thread.... Anyway, if you like raw and dirty definetlty at least check out some 85....
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    I liked the comments you made about shows that were perfectly well played, with no mistakes, as opposed to those which featured more seat of the pants jamming. I also prefer it when they take chances. I much prefer a show that has some rough edges, but has moments of real inspiration, as opposed to ones that are smoother, with less ups and downs. The smooth ones sound professional, but the rougher ones are where the gold is. Having said that, I don't listen to much from 1985. Maybe I should start.
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    True, nothing sounds better through "rose-colored speakers" than some caterwalling screaming during "Playing in the Band'. Margaret "Hot Lips" Houlihan's favorite. If I'm frank, than AJS is Hot lips. Of course, these millenials are proboblay wondering what this fuss about the M.A.S.H. business these elderly old farts refer too. Maybe we could step back a couple decades further slam each other with 'Lil Abner references next. Somebody quick, pass the Geritol. Fogey alert. So I gave a less than glowing review of the first set. It's one man's opinion. I think it's awesome if other people are getting much enjoyment from it. I've only listened once, so perhaps I'll have some more positive input upon further listenings when I decide to give a more detailed song by song evaluation. It wouldn't be the first time that a show didn't immediately resonate with me, only to become a favorite later. I listened to 5/2/70 immediately before 11/17/71, so part of my first impression was influenced by listening to one of the all time best shows. I'm sure most here would agree that 5/2/70 is a few notches better than 11/17/71. Especially 1st set comparisons. I still stick with the Ann Arbor portion being the superior show between the two. 12/14-15/71 may be among the very best of the entire year, next to Port Chester and FE from the spring. I'm sure there would be some agreeance there. Also, I didn't say I hated DaP 26. Just that the first set isn't as solid as the second set. Why that would be blown out of proportion into becoming an issue by the usual trolls is beyond me. Haters will be haters.
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    I’ll have to check out Phil’s treatment when I can, sounds cool. Hell one of my favorite “Dead” things has always been what they do with others music, much like good Jazz...Speaking of Del and the gang, been so fortunate to see them a bunch, and even opened for them once so got to hang a bit. Not only incredible musicians, but truly nice people....and man, if you ever get a chance to see the boys play round the fire, after hours, phew. These folks truly play for love of game like say MJ or Bruce Smith.
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The unexpected return of the masters of the Grateful Dead's triumphant show at the Albuquerque Civic Auditorium, November 17, 1971, yields great rewards. The Dead came in HOT for their first New Mexico show. Aided by clarity and precision and abetted by confidence and focus, they finessed old standards with definitive takes. With Keith now blending in seamlessly on keys, the first set offered up a triple shot of electric Blues, an exceptional "You Win Again," and a stellar "One More Saturday Night" to wrap things up. And the second set, well, it might just be unlike any you've ever heard. Archivist David Lemieux urges you to turn it up and do it loudly. We won't dare spoil all the surprises, but pay special attention to the rippin' "Sugar Magnolia," the aggressively monstrous "The Other One," and the highly-danceable "Not Fade>GDTRFB>Not Fade." Rounding out the 3CDs, you'll find selections from Pigpen's return tour at Ann Arbor, MI, 12/14/71. Subscribers will get nearly all of the complete show as this year's bonus disc.

As always, Dave's Picks Volume 26 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the original analog tapes by Jeffrey Norman and is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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I saw sherbear make a post a couple weeks ago on JOTW. Now just need some stuart walker love. hugz. Enjoy the sun and listen to the rain. Be thankful, kind, humble and dammit call your mom. What about Pembroke?
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Man the coffee is strong this morning....beautiful day here in KC, been smoking a pork shoulder for the last 12 hours. Listening to Europe 72 Volume 18, in the middle of a 28 minute Dark Star no less, “shall we go, you and I while we can”? Saw The Schwag here on Friday night...highly recommended if you like a dance party and you don’t mind a GD cover band. They encored with Goin to KC and a version of After Midnight that reminded me very much of JGB Keen College which is another one of my favorite live shows. VW played with The Schwag for a time....anyways check them out! One thing we know, The Box Set is not Port Chester 71! LOL Good to hear from you Doc, and again thanks for everything. Best of luck in your new pursuits! Peace, Love, Dead to ALL Casey Janes
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Good to hear that the Doc is in possession of his faculties, at least in the berserk-forum-posting category. Having never rec'd an email from someone stating "you'll never hear from me again," "I've erased all my guitar lessons from my computers" and having heard directly from the Doc on this forum that he has been angry and depressed after a stroke, I think a reasonable person would be concerned. Particularly after seeing the CDC report that 98 men in the U.S. take their own lives every single day. So, folks, the obvious lesson here is to choose your words carefully. Because your use of dark, apocalyptic language can lead to misunderstandings among caring people. And, actually, when you do write dark apocalyptic notes and someone expresses concern, and you respond with extreme vitriol, frankly that exacerbates the concern. Concern for each other, even when misplaced, I don't believe is grounds for anger. Apparently, that's just me. Doc, I owe you no apology. You wrote me what can only be described as a desperate note, having already publicly acknowledging anger and fear and depression. You may send the gifts I sent you to cheer you up back to me. I wish you well on your recovery. As a physician, you probably know that extreme anger isn't good for your blood pressure, particularly after a stroke. So try slow, deep breathing and perhaps cut out the desperate notes to people that leads us to worry over you.
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Then there's http://www.district-distilling.com/gin/ in DC. Their awarding winning gins are distilled with Alligator (Checkerbark) Juniper berries (J. deppeana var. deppeana). This species of juniper is only found in the mountains of west Texas and southern New Mexico – I'm looking at several of the huge trees right now.
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Dear Doc,Can understand your frustration and agree with most of what you said....not so much the paragraph about 89 etc. would love to sit in person and debate that, but alas....... The out pouring was amazing and it truly touched me emotionally, made me feel apart of something, but I also remember feeling like everybody was acting like Doc was already dead. So much so I actually spoke to my wife about it, read her some posts and she agreed. Surely everyone ment well, but it made me uncomfortable. Can’t imagine how that felt for Doc.....sounds like he has enough going on without all that.... And maybe all the focus in the media on depression etc, but that too. Everybody was jumping all over the bandwagon on that to. I for one did not really feel that way from Docs “farewell” post last week. More like just a self aware person who has experienced some recent major life events, coinciding with a time in life when folks often start to make changes. Let’s just look at the silver lining in this as the fact that so many people here obviously really care about the guy, so much so that we perhaps pushed him over the edge of frustration. Hindsight’s 20/20 .... Anyway, sounds to me like Doc is just changing his priorities and doing what he’s has to do, and really, is any of this even OUR business? Technically this site is for discussing released dead material, no? It’s great that many of us get more than that from here, but this perhaps illustrates how unfortunately lines get blurred, and just how inefficient the written word can be sometimes. We should use this whole unfortunate experience to hopefully learn something, perhaps turn it into a positive, and go furthur! That to me, seems like the kind of thing Doc would strive for. GIN: ummmmm, smoooth. If your like me and try not to drink soda etc, but enjoy an occasional frosty beverage, try one of my Pedro’s. Put your favorite gin and some lime Perrier in the fridge until nice and cold. Put 3 or 4 fingers of gin in a 16oz beer pint glass, and top of with ice cold Lime Perrier, ummmmm smooooth! Great at parties, no cutting up limes or hassling with ice, and watching folks come from the rest room and stick their dirty hands in the fruit, and ice bucket. Also, gentler on our aging geezer stomachs than tonic water etc....give it a try, The Pedro.... FEAT; “ let’s hear it for Little Feat” yeah mon....
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Hf, your post revealing Doc's words to you indicated that you had been stewing for days before choosing to share Doc's words with the people who were expressing love, concern, and curiosity over his situation.You were put in a difficult spot. The chance of irritating the Doc was about 50%, right? Thus your dilemmma. But a dilemma that could only be resolved by making the decision. Sharing the information did help a bunch of people in the community that you and he are both a part of. Apparently the spotlight is the last place Doc wants to be, but when you have made people care about you the spotlight will come your way, like it or not. I am pretty sure I would have done what you did. I am sorry that you got the brunt of his anger for what you did. You did it for all of us. I assume may of us are thinking kind thoughts towards both Doc and you.
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bought it when it came outlistened some and thought meh fast forward to today while Ubering: "wow! another fine release." seeds that were silent all burst into bloom it really sounds good. She Belongs To Me, It Takes a lot to laugh, Desolation Row ("DOCtor Filth, he keeps his world inside of a leather cup"), Ballad of a Thin Man, Baby Blue, and more. A second CD with two (!!) tracks is part of the release, too.
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Private Message not Public Message.
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Once again, thanks for making me laugh and smile, smile, smile....When the going gets the wierd, the wierd laugh hard...
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To put the tempest back in the tea pot, I draw a distinction between statements on taking a break from the forum and seriously dark existential statements. In my view, I stepped up. Obviously, I just stepped in it. Whether to err on the side of "going public" or remaining silent is an issue to consider. When I perceive it's possible that someone needs help and they do not respond to persistent queries, I tend to take their dark words seriously. In this case, it appears that I erred. That does not change my basic stance. So, my apology -- sorry folks -- is to the forum, for erring publicly in a manner that disrupted the fun here. That's always been my focus. However, as a journalist, the belief that sweeping things under the rug or turning way to not see what's in front of me just ain't right. I hope you all can accept this as an explanation, as excuses are not my thing. Time to rock on? It is for me.
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I don't think anyone here saw any bad intentions in your efforts. And there's certainly no lasting harm. I don't think anyone here can blame you. Doc has been an institution here and an example of extreme generosity. I think we all hope him a speedy recovery from his medical issues. I don't think the bridge burning was necessary. I think the laundry list of problems he has with dead.net's posters made him lose a bit of the goodwill he has spent years building. Leaving dead.net because of "Jerry worship" or people requesting a box set or Dark Star obsessions? Come on man, that's 97.5% of the fun around here.
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PHISH, SATURDAY 06/10/1995 RED ROCKS AMPHITHEATRE Morrison, CO Soundcheck: Cry Baby Cry SET 1: Makisupa Policeman -> Llama, Prince Caspian > It's Ice > Free > Rift, You Enjoy Myself -> Hold Your Head Up[1] > Lonesome Cowboy Bill > Hold Your Head Up, Suzy Greenberg SET 2: Maze, Fee[2] > Uncle Pen, Mike's Song > I Am Hydrogen > Weekapaug Groove, Amazing Grace, Sample in a Jar ENCORE: A Day in the Life[3] [1] Vocal jam. [2] Trey sang verses through megaphone. [3] Phish debut. This show marked the first Phish performance of A Day in the Life. YEM segued into a HYHU vocal jam. Page teased Fanfare for the Common Man several times before Lonesome Cowboy Bill. Trey sang the verses of Fee through a megaphone.
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Obviously we've all hit a nerve here and I think it's appropriate that we drop this topic altogether out of respect for all involved. Clearly everyone comes from good intentions, but best to leave this lie.
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10-27-90 Paris, France. One of my all time favorite shows from the very beginning of Vince's time with the group. The combo of Vince/Bruce was nothing to poo poo about. This whole tour stands out to me as one of the last great runs. Compare this high energy show with say....4-1-94 Omni Atlanta....another high energy latter day show that just never seems to reach that mythical zone where the X factor is reached....drums and space maybe but....well that goes without saying. The Paris gigs are absolutely phenomenal leading up to the London gigs where even with what sounds like a head cold, Jerry delivers his vocals very poignantly atop the entire band just roaring, roiling and boiling underneath him. A lot of this current Dead n Co summer tour is reminding me of some of the FINER moments of Brent's last years with the group and first few ragers with Vince and Bruce. Believe it if you need it. Or, you know....leave it if you dare ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcF4FGzASKA
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but I do remember hearing a great rhythm leading into VOTC on cassette of 11/1/90 back in the day. I saw a poster cluster around town advertising 6/29/18 D&C at the Gorge. tempting...but I will use my $$$ for the box set.
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Hence it’s selection for 30 Trips. Spinning JGB 3-22-78 currently. Last night gave 7-12-89 a spin, that Sugaree is awesome. So, tomorrow is the big Bolo reveal to one lucky person.....
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Would you believe night 3, TTB @ Merriam Theater, Philadelphia, Pa?This will whet your palette nicely for 6/10/73 - most are probably there already - lol
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I am familiar with all of Europe 90 having listened to all of it last November. good points bad points. if you're going to give jerry a hash cookie please tell him so he can put it aside and eat it later, not eat it and be rendered nearly useless for a show. those were dennis McNally's words not mine, recently read the book in sections and read the one about '90. a few could really use a Charlie miller remaster though to the point I wont even play it on my ipod you have crank a few way the hell up. I might even get to it again soon, for I am now keeping a show note journal.
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I came for the grape juice. (sorry came up on Family Guy and it made me chuckle). Edit: yes.. I do watch that low brow show,.. my ex's 10 year old has gotten into it and I let him watch it even though his mom won't. I can only hope he doesn't get all the humor I do. Proves I'm no role model.
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Been incredibly busy lately.. and missing a bunch of music, but still catching a bunch too and having good fun along the way. I missed Friday nights Dead/Phil thing entirely.. and last night was sure to at least start the free Phil part on Nugs.tv at about a quarter to midnight. When I started to doze off (shortly after I started) I managed to hit pause, just to see if it saved this into the next day. it did not. :(.. but the free stuff they had sitting there when I just hit play tonight really kicked ass. It could be a result of hitting pause, then hitting play on the same stream tonight.. but I bet it's still there somewhere if you poke around. I spent my night watching a Phil n Friends show from 2014 at the Capitol Theatre. The Let it Grow > Eyes was spectacular.. complete with horns (but not in the of atonal fall 1973 way, quite well done). Really great stuff. "Wondering Where the Nuthatch Winters.. with Wings A Mile Long." Love that line, Nuthatches don't winter, they just stay in place, poof out their down and ride out the wherever they are :D. I'm sure Hunter knew that which makes me ponder the real meaning. btw.. love Jackie Greene. Under-rated. Back to your regularly scheduled programming.
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Hey diddle diddle my cat and my middle
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Goddamn, Hippychic. I did a double-take when I first read that.
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....was in Elko for my granddaughters high school graduation the last four days. My stepdaughters pit had a litter last August. Had our eye on a female and finally ran up and got her. I named her Lucy when born. Stepdaughter changed it to Lucee. Even better....
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1-25-1969 Avalon BallroomGet some... :o) ...the St. Stephen-> Eleven-> Lovelight is icing on the cake.
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I HOPE this is just a distillation of this year's box, being a general release I'm inclined to say yes... The Grateful Dead "Pacific Northwest '73-'74: Believe It If You Need It" live 3CD set (Grateful Dead/Rhino) [CD1] 1. China Cat Sunflower (Live at Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR 5/19/74) 2. I Know You Rider (Live at Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR 5/19/74) 3. Bird Song (Live at P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. 6/22/73) 4. Box Of Rain (Live at Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR 6/24/73) 5. Brown-Eyed Women (Live at Hec Edmundson Pavillion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA 5/21/74) 6. Truckin' (Live at Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR 5/19/74) 7. Jam (Live at Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR 5/19/74) 8. Not Fade Away (Live at Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR 5/19/74) 9. Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad (Live at Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR 5/19/74) 10. One More Saturday Night (Live at Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR 5/19/74) [CD2] 1. Here Comes Sunshine (Live at P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. 6/22/73) 2. Eyes Of The World (Live at P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. 5/17/74) 3. China Doll (Live at Hec Edmundson Pavillion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA 5/21/74) 4. Playing In The Band (Live at Hec Edmundson Pavillion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA 5/21/74) [CD3] 1. Sugaree (Live at P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. 5/17/74) 2. He's Gone (Live at P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. 6/22/73) 3. Truckin' (Live at P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. 6/22/73) 4. The Other One (Live at P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. 6/22/73) 5. Wharf Rat (Live at P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. 6/22/73) 6. Sugar Magnolia (Live at P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. 6/22/73)
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Was wondering where you got your info from, can't find it anywhere, not even on amazon.com..
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Looks like the cat is out of the proverbial bag a bit earlier than anticipated. I'll still fire up the ol' number generator and send the winner some schwag. Seth - add 1 more: 6/26
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It's interesting they carved it up this way. It is something they have not done before. So ~$250 ish?
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The split year format is a surprise to me, but at first glance, there is enough similarity in the shows for it to feel cohesive. That 5/21/74 show looks to be worth the investment on its own. A 46 minute Playin?! ...with an Eyes > Wharf Rat > Sugar Mag? Yes please.
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I wonder if the missing reel with the end of the show has been recovered/uncovered for a complete release - I am excited for this! The 5/19/74 jam has long been a favorite too!
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....you had me at P.N.E. I need my DeadBase. Sept 7th is the release date I assume?
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Yes!!
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I'm tempted to pre-order the vinyl from the UK just because I can, but I think that is the fear of a US ordering debacle again and me losing years off my life as I wonder if one of my ten orders went through properly. It it wasn't so damn stressful, I'd be getting a good laugh right now!
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… on your new addition. I too have a dog named Lucy.I like the alternative spelling!
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