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    Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

    WHAT'S INSIDE:
    6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
    • 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
    • 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
    Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
    Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
    Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
    Photos by Richie Pechner
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

    Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

    "We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

    Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

    The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

    For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

    PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

    Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

    Get it while you can.

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  • Mr. Pete
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    I would guess by the time the box comes out, and deadheads comment on how nice the box looks, that will "seal the deal" for a lot of people.I am not familiar with the NW shows so I am very much looking forward to sitting down, pouring a cold beverage, lighting up one of my dead meerschaum pipes, and enjoying each show. I am sure the quality of the sound will be...excellent! A lot of us forget how bad cassettes were in the day. Not all...but most! Have a great day! Mr. Pete-----------------> aging hippie
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    Total run time for 6/1 @ Camden was 2 hrs, 54 minutes (18 songs including encore) per my Nugs download. For 6/2, it was 1 hr, 46 minutes (10 songs). I don't have the specific Set 1 vs. Set 2 breakdown at the moment. In listening, I felt like the 6/2 first set seemed longer than usual. On a related note, hoping to catch the boys at Blossom tomorrow if time permits!
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    Not sure why you feel entitled to a refund. You don't get a refund if a baseball game gets called early due to rain. You don't get a refund if you buy a ski pass for the season and it does not snow. Our plow guy certainly does not offer a refund if it does not snow. The same thing happened in Canandaigua a few years back. Sucks, but that is how life works.
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    ....Dead & Co busted out The Eleven on the eleventh show of the tour. I don't believe in coincidences....Haha. Poop. Congrats Sixtus.
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    Lucky you, daverock and Jim. Have only seen him live once, back in 1979 or 80 (edit: oops, not that anybody cares, but I remember now that it was in 1976. 42 years ago? Ouch) not long after Wired came out, so that and Blow by Blow made up a good portion of the show. How could anyone not like that? Seems he'll be in southern Cal this tour but I'm up north, so will miss him again. In the age of youtube, though, it's easy to see parts of these tours that I cannot attend. He's still among the pinnacle of my rock guitar favorites, with that rare blend of technique, emotion, and inventiveness. I can listen to Garcia endlessly, but when I'm in the right mood, JB has that different sort of mojo that's a cut above. Guys like Clapton, Santana, Robbie Robertson, and name 20 others always had lots of talent, but Beck continued to evolve and innovate, and damn does he ever age? I think his adventurous spirit, constant playing with new and talented sidemen, and restraint on overexposing himself has helped him maintain his longevity and freshness. Just re-read your post daverock, and somehow I missed the Imelda May reference as the warm up act on my first read. Wow, would I have liked to have been at that show! Jim, you'll be lucky if she comes along on his US tour too.
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    Thx Jimbo. And I did some quick math on your numbers below - they are eerily similar in terms of % unique songs played; FW 69 is 35.4839% 'unique songs' vs. PNW 73/74 being 36.5854% unique songs. Moral of the story seems to be that repeats have long been A Thing across runs. I ain't complainin'! Fun w/#'s Sixtus P.S. and it was the China > Rider transition from 5/19/74, while listening on my Walkman strolling to my French class that had me repeatedly rewinding that Feelin Groovy jam which has since had me 1000% hooked on that little snippet whenever and wherever it pops up.
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    First.. congrats and best of luck Sixtus. Seond.. I got a nice chuckle out of thin being "shocked!" Chortled my coffee a bit.. I suspect the frequent visitors of these threads are mostly all-in on this one with some that are interested but passing for various reasons. I think it's worth it for a cleaned up, pristine PNE 73 alone, add in Seattle 74 and the rest is bonus material. I cannot get enough WRS's either, Truckin' had legs back then, China Riders were going through a pivotal evolution, there are some first set novelties like The Race is On, early Peggy-O's and others and you have the makings for a great box set. ..and that's before the extra time and effort mastering, Plangent, etc. As for songs. Just for kicks and giggles I compared to FW 69. I know there is no comparison, FW was an explosive early high water mark. ..but this is how they match up: FW 69 Shows 4 Songs 62 Avg. Songs per Show 15.5 Unique Songs 22 PNW 73/74 Shows 6 Songs 164 Avg. Songs per Show 27.3 Unique Songs 60
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    On a different note, I decided I wanted to know where it said in my ticket agreement that the BB&T Pavilion can cancel a show at some point through it without offering a refund. They are offering some free streaming stuff, but to be frank, I was treated rather belligerently by the woman I spoke to. She actually interrupted me, and said the words, "you're not getting a refund" after cutting me off several times in an impatient tone. I was very cordial in my questions and demeanor, so, clearly no respect for the customer (not because I wasn't given a refund right), but because I was talked down to and interrupted. This woman, after not knowing the answers, told me to Google it. I guess I can't be too surprised at poor customer service, but I can't remember the last time congeniality was reciprocated by condescension. I asked for her manager and was forwarded to his voice mail, so I left him a message. I don't know about you guys, but this sort of thing sticks in my craw, and frankly the discussion on Hell Freezes Over and increased ticket sales prices is what really got me to thinking I'm not happy with this outcome, and that I was going to call about it. I believe that the cost to either BB&T Pavilion and or Dead and Company to redo the show is going to hurt their pocketbooks a lot less than a great number of fans who attended, once you break it down to percentages and household income, etc. If it says in my ticket or anywhere in my purchase agreement that they have a right to do this, then it is what it is and I'm fine with it. If anyone out there has statistics on the number of minutes played at any Dead & Co shows, I would be grateful for them (like, if you have a show loaded up on your iPod, and the total runtime for both sets and Encore equals x number of minutes, that would be great thanks). The June 1st and 2nd Camden shows especially.
  • Sixtus_
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    Hey Now Just checking in after a bit of a hiatus - life's curveballs, you know? Busy times and not so busy times but busy times will indeed REIGN when Sixtus III arrives this Friday AM so long as all goes as scheduled. Then, crazy train. Good to catch up from the last several days, here. Psyched for this Big Box. Just looking forward to the smooth sound upgrade and some monster shows, just gimme it All. Dead & Co have been a lot of fun lately - that Billy Tell > Eleven rolled me over (sounds like VGuy too). Also coming out of Space into Eyes? My cup O' Tea. Be well people! revel in the summertime - I will certainly try and will do my best to check in and offer some candid updates. That may or may not involve poop. Sixtus
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    It's almost impossible to compare sales performance of any one Grateful Dead box set to another. Some we don't know how many they produced (Winterland 1973 & 1977); some are from extremely famous runs (Cornell, Europe '72); some are relatively expensive; some are relatively inexpensive; and some are available for download, so we can't even measure their sales. In hindsight, it seems clear why Cornell, Europe 72, Fillmore West 1969, and 30 Trips Around the Sun sold out quickly. It is interesting that Winterland June 1977 and Winterland 1973 took about five years to sell out, while the May 1977 box set took less than a year. Judging by eBay prices, the Winterland '77 Box is in much higher demand. This has me thinking they either manufactured an assload of Winterland June 1977 boxes, or the "Limited Edition" marketing scheme is hugely effective. I can't see Pacific Northwest box being on the shelves for more than 6 months after the September 7th release date for the following reasons: * The time of their career it encompasses, '73 / '74 * The 15K Limited Edition production run (a number we know doesn't last too too long) * The fact that it's in the medium to low price range * Its availability for the holiday season * The "word of mouth" advertising this box is sure to get (I believe it's a foregone conclusion that it's going to sound great and contain outstanding performances - we are going to be raving about it after it hits our doorsteps, and if it didn't sell out by then, they will start selling like hotcakes as the holiday season approaches) * The Grateful Dead's back catalogue is arguably in higher demand than ever. Dead & Co's impact, I believe, has contributed greatly to this. Even if one doesn't think there is any relevance there, the fact remains the back catalog is in higher demand than ever based on the increased production numbers of Dave's Picks. So yeah, good times good times. I'm not surprised that this didn't sell out overnight. It's not Europe 72. I think it's most akin to the Dave's Picks yearly subscription sales. We all know the boxes are out there in comparatively high numbers, and we all know the rate at which they're selling. Some of us are taking our time because we have time to take. But the window will shorten once the product hits the street and the holidays are upon us. You can't keep half a dozen brand new releases from one of the Grateful Dead's most cherished eras out of the hands of Deadheads for long. This is not Cornell or Europe 72, but it is also no July 1978 or RFK '89. I think after all is said and done, the Pacific Northwest box may reflect the sales pattern of 30 Trips Around the Sun.
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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

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I have listened to very little of this era of the Grateful Dead so I am very excited they are putting out some things from this time frame. I can't wait until September to check all of this out for my first time. Just wanted to have another positive comment on here for our boy Dave Lemieux! Keep up the great work buddy, we all appreciate your efforts so very much! Cheers!
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This set is up my street to an absolutely absurd degree -- Splurgegasm!! Ok wow apologies folks! After wiping up that mess, I have taken a few moments to heed Mr. Lemieux' advice and see just what the internet has to show us about Roy Henry Vickers. Oh hoho, we are truly blessed here with this. Nice to see the box remain mostly mysterious, but clearly we are due to receive something amazing and beautiful to both eye and ear. Also, I gotta say it is another piece of Very Good News to hear Nick M. has been tapped again for critical duties. With no slight to Jarnow, Gans, Lemieux, or Walton (or anyone else [Stanley!]), Meriwether's liners are always enlightening and give a great context to the recordings, definitely meriting re-readings. Dang glad there's some appetizers coming through the summer in the way of Dave's Next, the Anthem re/Winterland '67 and the Meetup, otherwise all this anticipation might be just tooo much.
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And I was kind of surprised it did not sell out yet, but maybe there are not a lot of deadheads who are fans of the era. After wrestling with myself on whether or not to drop the cash, for maybe five minutes, I realized I would regret not doing so. I love these shows! I can't wait to hear it. I hope my CD player does not fritz out before then. Cheers!
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How about some limited edition lithographs of the art signed by First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers himself? Seriously impressed. Would love to frame and hang in the home and/or office. Just a thought. Boxset exceeds my wildest expectations. All-in and thanks to all involved. Be kind out there...
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Really looking forward to the first officially released 1973 Bird Song. As some have noted, this one's a doozie, though I haven't heard it (ranks 2nd on Heady Version). Like Hippie Chick, I've had these shows a while now, but never quite pulled the trigger on listening to them (or I turn them off a song or two in). The difficulty starts with a dude on my shoulder who looks just like Keith, whispering "pssst...MeFan...wait for the Full Norman...the Fender Rhodes is going to sound so much better..." But of course he's always offset by the dude on my other shoulder who looks just like Pigpen, whispering "pssst...KeithFan...I forgive you your namesake - the boy can play some piano... but about those unofficial tapes - shake a leg now, you know you want to...quit playing pocket pool, get her leg up against the wall, and listen to those soundboards." To which I say "but Pigpen 'ol buddy, I can't...she so ugly"; but Pig's impatient now; he stops whispering at this point and hollers "well whatchoo wont for a dolla and a quarter?!?"
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You were expecting it to be free? At $10/CD for the Box that’s pretty reasonable. The 44.1 download works out to $6.32/CD.
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KeithFan,With this post I do believe it's very possible that you're Mr. Godchaux' illegitimate child. Or you could be Mr. McKernan's love child, but that would be impossible, because that child was proven to be the 44th President of the United States, Barack Hussein Obama, and I don't think you're that man. However, a copy of this forthcoming boxset awaits you in September as with one for me.
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Another amazing piece!! Awesome work, Dead.net
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These box sets have been amazing. Just ordered Pacific Northwest and already have May 1977 Get shown the light, July 1978 complete recordings, Spring 1990, RFK stadium and Dave's Picks subscription. Im going to be having some great music to listen to, but quickly running out of money.The real question is should I go Box set purchase over Dave's picks?
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I have tried for the last two hours to try to get a copy and could not doing it through a PC or an android phone on this site...luckily my gf's Iphone did the trick. I can't fathom that this set would sell out in less than a day but we'll see. If you are having similar problem kept trying. Interesting that Dave chose to represents two years of shows on this one. If the quality is good as Winterland '73 I will be in 7th heaven. I did recall hearing an audience of the Seattle '74 back in the '80's and that PITB is long...very long. We'll see if Dave's on the mark with his youtube comments. The Money Honey is hilarious and you have to wonder who inspired that one for Bobby. Only two Eyes and Weather Report Suite out of six shows...quite unusual for both time periods.
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box set this box set is one of the top three for me Europe 72 is the top. Couldn't buy it at the time, but I have quite a few from a "reliable source". Thirty Trips is a tremendous concept. Couldn't buy it at the time, etc. PNW 73 & 74 Summer 78
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Hi all. Well, it’s been several months since I’ve checked-in on these boards. The fantastic news regarding the release of this sure-to-be amazing box set has brought me out of hibernation. Anyway, to state that I’m very super-stoked about the upcoming release of these dynamite 73-‘74 shows is definitely an understatement. Of course, ‘73-‘74 (plus ‘72) Grateful Dead is my absolute favorite jam, therefore my arousal over this box-set is approaching dangerous levels. As with many others, I was kinda expecting the release of a box set from ‘73, and we’re certainly due to get access to some shows from Summer of 1973. I always expected a ‘73 box set to consist of “Mega Dead” shows from May ‘73, but these June ‘73 shows are on a completely different (higher) level. Thank you with all of my heart and soul, Dave et al. (Jeffrey and Rhino and ...). My apologies if I’ve missed some previous chatter regarding the next Dave’s Picks. I was seriously thinking that DaP27 would be 8/1/73. For one, this show would be released on Garcia’s b-day (8/1), but 8/1 would also be the 45th anniversary of this show. For two, this show is very lovely...and we were due for release of a show from Summer ‘73. Anyway, obviously the announcement of the ‘73-‘74 box-set eliminates the chances of 8/1/73 of being released as DaP27, but this is certainly okay with me, considering the trade-off. I now think DaP27 will be a show from Spring ‘69. I pray to the “Primal Dead Gods” that a show from Spring ‘69 will be the next Dave’s Picks. I also love the artwork on this ‘73-‘74 box set...very much! Thanks again Dave! You da man! My personal list of supreme-o GD box-sets (ranked): Europe ‘72 —> my most prized possession ? Pacific Northwest ‘73-‘74 ? —> anticipated rank Winterland ‘73 Fillmore West ‘69 30 Trips Y’all enjoy...too bad we have to wait almost three months.
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1973 was a great year: I was fortunate to see 5 shows that year, 2/22 being the first. Watkins Glen was 2nd, Indy in October was 3rd, Cinci and Cleveland were 4th and 5th. I have several shows downloaded from '73, in fact, I was listening to Portland 6/24/73 the day the box set announcement appeared. I have the Miller soundboard with some defects/dropouts during "Loser". I hope the Vault copy is not defective: wonder who was doing the board mix back then... Owsley was a free man, again, but Kidd may have been running the board.
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....if that's the final product, they've outdone themselves again.
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I don't have a favorite era.. it's typically what I listened to last, but.. well.. what the hey.. I love 73-74. I think I have all the shows from this period that circulate, in high quality lossless soundboard if existing. In honor of my older brother who turned me on to the Dead, and just turned 56.. exactly now... and in honor of the good doctor.. if anyone wants a lossless copy of any non-released show from this period.. PM me and I will happily hook you up. Any requests received now through Sunday midnight EST are ok. If I get a whirlwind of replies, responding might depend on my bandwith balanced with how much data I just committed to sending. So be patient.. but I will eventually follow through. Again, non-released shows from 73 to 74. My sweet spot.
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I agree w/Nanno that the Europe box is one of my most prized possessions as well. If they EVER top that box, I'll be shocked. At $450 WITH SHIPPING (and before any internet tax in my state) it was also the best value of supersonic quality '72 Dead of 73 CDs. The first May '77 Box was the most efficient and attractively designed IMO. The monster year from every show 30 rings around the sun box is very cool and all but in retrospect, I could've skipped it, as it was EXTREMELY expensive. I still recall the days when the Derek and the Dominos 3 CD box seemed like an "extravagance" that I had to justify back at my Sam Goody in 1990.
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That looks wicked cool. I am running out of shelf space for oversize box sets.
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Agree on all counts.. but to add.. I also recall how I internalized the value vs. the price at the time. Of course I ponied up.. but, well.. It's like when gas first went above a dollar a gallon, you postponed that big road trip. ..and for what? To save like a hundred dollars on the trip of a lifetime that you can no longer conjure up the time now that you have the money? FW69 and E72 complete were the very best offerings we will ever see here. They were spectacular.
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The way that I look at these box sets is that they are both a thing and an experience - I will have a physical product which is an object of delight, and an experience of listening to music that consistently brings joy to my ears, an experience that I can repeat at any time I choose. I passed on a couple of the earlier boxes when they were released and ended up regretting the decision later and paying a higher price on the secondary markets, a mistake that I plan to avoid in the future. When you look at the per cd cost of these box sets they are really pretty reasonable, you are just buying a lot at once. I am curious to see how long this will take to sell out.
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This band and their music have gotten me through some pretty dismal days over the decades. And they've made the bright days that much brighter. They are my sanctuary, my solace, and my internal smile. These official releases are worth every penny I've ever spent and will continue to spend. Plus, I agree with Charlie3. I think you really do get a lot of bang for your buck when you break it all down (and factor in the uniqueness and artistry of each box set).
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I will surely not miss another box set. I also passed on a lot of the early ones, thinking that 5 shows from the same year of which I already had several shows was unneeded overkill. But lately I feel like even the slightest variation on a song is required listening. I don't know if I'm just in a passing phase with the Grateful Dead now, like vibrator vs manual, or if this infatuation will take permanent hold. But the box has been paid for, so bliss to come either way.
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..."my sanctuary, my solace, and my internal smile." Well said!
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For a host of reasons I am still on the fence for this one but if the packaging of the collection really is more of a chest style than a 'box', that just might be the tipper to land me into a bed of roses. Without a doubt, my personal investment into these collections is partly based on the visual artistry of the packaging. Some background on the use of chests by Pacific Northwest tribes: http://www.donsmaps.com/bentwoodchests.html
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Or the hockey arenas of spring and the sheds of summer... I always marveled at the rhythms of the seasonal tours that contained the chaos of our traveling troupe. Now We have the same vibration contained within these boards- new folks coming on line, grizzled veterans keeping things in line, the usual suspects, providing various levels of snark, cynicism and humor. I don't jump in as much as I used to, but there is a certain comfort to seeing the same names, bringing the same perspective while others swirl around. As always, if anyone is looking for specific shows, shoot me a PM; I can send discs, or flash drive, any format you choose. Keep the vibe rolling! As for "Chests of the Pacific Northwest" I am not sure why my mind went to National Geographic from back in the day...
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...the charming duplicate post challenge. I am getting too old for this stuff! See you all in September
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The art work looks pretty cool, though in no way shape or form are the oversized containers, a la the cheap snow flake cut outs of the last over-sized box from Cornell and company May '77 is welcomed. Alas that is the deal, big ideas rarely come in reasonable size packages. If a CD holder was meant to be the size of an LP, I'd buy LP's. But such is life in the over blown society we live in. The music is key and everything else is superfluous. 73-74 sound quality is expected to be pretty good, and Phil, Jerry and the rest should be in top form. The repetition of so many songs is a drag, but if the Jams are there and let's face a statement like, "The greatest improvisational jam ever" is probably a snake oil salesman over reaching the necessity of the situation but that remains to be heard. Looking over some reviews of these shows, always taken with a grain of salt because different people hear and like different things in music, but most of these six shows have luke-warm reviews in the Taping Compendium and on Archive.org Looking forward to how massive the Phil Zone is and I want HUGE.
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@ SkullTripLike you, the Grateful dead music is one of the great joys of my life. She has helped illuminate my life through the decades. I'm forever grateful to the members of the band, and to David Lemieux and the whole team.
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@72LiveDead Overblown packaging? Everything else is superfluous? I’m sure the working, living, breathing artists involved with E’72, both Spring ‘90s, July ’78, all the Dave Picks series, and now, Pacific Northwest ’73 – ’74 would take great offense at such diminution. Personal vision was placed into all of those efforts, and then, not unlike prints and lithographs, offered only in limited editions. Limited enough to appreciate in value on their own, independently from the music? Not likely. Production of fifteen thousand is a heck of a lot more than two hundred. But unique enough to give the collector something special. Hopefully you are going with the download only because I can only assume yours will end up in a landfill someday!
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Yeah Oxford, me too. I'm enjoying the posts about this box. I think I'm more excited about this box than any before. Like others, I've had tapes of the shows for many years, but haven't given them focused listening. Once Dick's Picks started rolling my tape collection fell to the wayside. Can't wait for the 46 min PITB. I think the "longest jam" performances often get short shrift. People always point out that longest is not necessarily best. True, but it doesn't mean that it cannot be arguably the best or unsurpassed. I consider the 5/11/72 Star unsurpassed and it has nothing to do with its length. It's hard for me to believe the epic Fresno PITB mindbender (7/19/74; Dave's 17) could be topped but I'm all ears for 5/21/74. Kudos to Hippychick for the suggestive photo and banter. It is much appreciated in these parts. Seriously.
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I can't resist. I graduated from Cornell about a month ago so, naturally, the Get Shown the Light Box has been on constant repeat for the last year with the occasional break for the newest DaP. It's about time I splurged and inserted something new in my stereo. September can't come soon enough. Shameless promotion: Cornell's clock tower put on chimes concerts with GD music both May 8 this year and last. They're not bad. Look them up. I'm sure they're on YouTube.
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That is why they offer the digital version, save some money and shelf space.
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Mind, body or spirit whatever the ailment is Grateful Dead music is the cure for sure. Helped me out many a times over the years and still does to this day. It's were I go when I want to feel something that feels the same way I do(your love has got to be real, your gonna know just how I feel).
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A cash grab? That's absurd. Think about this for a minute. If this was split we'd be paying more in shipping and thus costing us more money. They would have certainly cost 100$ a piece plus shipping. If we were talking about the E72 all music I might agree because it was the same price as the steamer. This is really nice priced box. As me and a couple of posters here have said Look at the price of the new Phish box set. That in my opinion is a cash grab and love Phish just as much as the Dead. If the plan was to box the MSG shows they should have never let us buy those shows on download and like me others have and paid for these shows. This is great box set that the majority of us can't wait for and is really priced perfect in my opinion. Sorry Fox your out of line like your most of your other posts on other releases. SpaceBro I feel you on the money situation. I'm working OT to pay for this. My boss after talking with was cool with. If it helps you out I'll mail you a flash drive after I get it if that helps but I know how dedicated you are in purchasing all releases.
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Thinking about any show, 3 discs or more, $30, seems about right. Add extensively researched artwork and packaging, we are talking about high value. Take care of the whole box and it increases in value, should you choose to sell? Overall, this set meets all the criteria of a pretty good value I know people grumble about too much packaging, but it is quite obvious that Dave and company believe in delivering a bigger experience than just the music. (I think they are digging the Grammy nominations as well). The Dead have never been great at the "cash grab" game. The Who? The Stones? Zeppelin? Under packaged over priced rehashing of their catalogue with nothing new beyond the umpteenth remaster... At least the 2009 Beatles remasters were beautifully repackaged. Anyone else excited to get the Allmans' Cream of the Crop tomorrow?
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I seriously doubt this will sell out any time soon (but ya never know!). Red Rocks took forever to sell out and it was cheaper, and had higher profile shows. But I can understand them not wanting to under-produce this box after the Cornell Box shortage last year. But that was frickn' Cornell - even my mom was aware of the significance of that show. The highest profile shows here are 6/22/73 and 5/19/74, and most of my Deadhead friends don't even know these shows. Cash grab??! We've salivated all year for this anncm't. Lurking on a board that announces the release of box sets, then calling any anncm't a "cash grab"? .... right.....
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Yeah. It is kinda cool that your school replays 5/8/77 on the clock tower chimes each year. A novelty at best. What we really want to know is how the pumpkin got up there. Cash grab? Not in the least. FTW was a total cash grab. This is fairly priced and geared towards more hardcore heads. Likewise, it will probably take a bit longer to sell out. Those who pass will regret it down the road. Just look at the prices for the 73 Winterland box. I really haven't listened to any of these shows other than 5/19, which is worth the price alone. This a cool release but I find it hard to believe that it will surpass E72 or FW69. For those newcomers contemplating how to allocate your purchase dollars, focus on E72 first.
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Where can you find the info on the number of copies left for sale?
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I am surprised that nobody is discussing the World Cup. After all, I am forever being told how popular the sport is becoming. I find soccer to be a lot like Phish. You are constantly told how great it is, so you make an effort to enjoy it. In the end, you wind up realizing that you just wasted an inordinate amount of your time. I'll take Spain.
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Hi All! Its been a while since I last commented (work and life being crazier than usual) but I have been following since the DaP 26 page. As SkullTrip, Charlie3 and JiminMD have said, and I completely agree, the cost of regret greatly outweighs the price. I said this 23 years ago and it is still true today: After Jerry checked out, one of the main things to keep things going was/is the recordings. I traded tapes relentlessly once I got I on the bus and even more so after Jerry died. Once I figured out how to download and burn CDs that was the next thing. Looking at it all now in 2018, Dick, Dave and the whole crew have given us a vast amount of releases. In terms of releases I passed on some, especially some of the boxes just due my financial status at the time. I passed on FW 69 and the Warlocks because I got complacent and they sold out, even though the Warlocks took forever to sell out. E72, I managed to piece together ala carte thankfully, yet very pricey. However I also passed on both Spring 1990s and the 30 trips due to money issues at the time they were released. I am kicking myself for passing on most of these (30 trips not so much). For this release, I had just bought some new camping gear and have a few other things coming up that I spent some money on, but I did not hesitate to buy it. Just like many of you, GD music gets me through life much better than I would if I didn’t have it. For example, I owe my masters’ degree to the Archive and coffee. For my current job situation, I have most of my shows on my work computer and they get played throughout the day. Again in 2018 so much GD music has been released that to me it is worth getting as much as possible into one’s collection. They way these shows are mastered, especially any of from the Betty Boards are just fantastic. I feel like these box sets are the pinnacle of these releases. At this point my yearly budget consists of about $100 for my yearly DaP subscription and about $200 for annual the box set.
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You and me both. I'm glad someone else knows. I told that story to all friends and family that visited. Nobody believed me so I had to bring up news articles. Ithaca is definitely weird. But legitimately enjoyable.
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Football(what you call Soccer), is indeed the most popular sport on the planet, except in the US where most people think it's the most boring sport. I grew up with it, so I appreciate it; on the other hand, I've been living in the US for 40 years, and I still don't get baseball; I do love American Football(which is played mostly with hands...)and basketball I'll take France
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....i'd rather watch grass grow. Not my thing. A clock that runs forward does not compute and add on bonus time? Wtf? Anyway, I looked at the teams in it and no USA? Really? If that's the case, I'll take Iceland.
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This set is right in my wheelhouse! My favorite Dead is the one drummer stuff and like Lemieux said the Vancouver 73 and Portland 74 shows are desert island shows!! I have not spent any time with the Seattle shows, but I am sure they are stellar as well. I am so freaking excited about this one. Still would love to get the RFK 73 set (with Allmans and Wet Willie sets!!), but I have great copies of that, so no hurry. And if anyone is listening, Jerry Garcia Band Hampton 93!
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