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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

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July 27, 2018 - 7:15pm

#2201

Vguy72

Joined:
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Hold on hendrixfreak....

....I need to make some more popcorn and mescaline.
July 27, 2018 - 7:04pm

#2202

hendrixfreak

Joined:
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Noon-ish is not the best time to catch a full-blown show.....

My memory has clearly telescoped events, because I almost think I remember rolling over in my sleeping bag and, for breakfast, snorting a pile of 'chocolate' mescaline off one of those mini-cereal boxes. I definitely took some blotter. But even if we'd 'slept in,' it must of been 10-ish or something. Surely we'd had some water and a snack, probably provided by a merciful neighbor. We were still 15 and we looked like what we were: goddamm-near children! Ah, so I was saying, we dropped acid and snorted mescaline and fired up the pipe with Numero Uno and, hey, is that freakin' Jerry on stage? Wait, Bobby. Phil. Bill. The piano guy. Jer kept dipping his cigarette into a brass ashtray and, when he re-lit it, it flared up. I didn't hit the blow til '75 but later, I thought, freebase. I hope someone can clarify this, but I think I recall the band starting just a bit after NOON(!). As far as I was concerned at the time, they fucking rocked the place for hours. I do recall, as I often feel, feeling goofy about a camera while tripping. But I managed to snap off three shots, of which two survive, which catch the three guitarists blasting away on Playing in the Band, then turning towards each other to converse more intimately, finally arriving in a tight circle and sending tides of sound across the crowd. I think this was the time I experienced Phil's bass as physical, purple pulses in my chest and the realization that vibrations, rather than corporeal reality, were at the heart of existence. I clearly remember the gospel treatment at the end of He's Gone and at the end of Sugar Mag, Weir thrust his arm skyward for stop time, ran back to his amps, downed the rest of a Heineken and raced back to the mic for the coda. Still, I was 15, down front at one of the biggest gatherings of humans in history. I did look back over the crowd, but, as usual, there wasn't much profit in looking back. Not with the Grateful Dead killing it in front of me.
July 27, 2018 - 6:44pm

#2203

hendrixfreak

Joined:
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The Soundcheck

The Allmans rocked big time. They'd slayed us at RFK after the Dead when, exhausted and dehydrated, we had retreated to the shaded overhang of RFK and been simply psychedelically rolled over by the ABB. They smoked the Dead that day. Back to the Soundcheck. I got up and hiked around the scene while it was still afternoon. A very loose scene with lots of elbow room, cool air, breathing. I returned to our space, easily located, for The Band. It was nearly sunset when the Grateful Dead took the stage. We had all the room we needed. I started the soundcheck boogie-ing upright, shakin it to the rock 'n roll. I had snorted some mescaline and taken maybe a half tab of the blotter. Everyone knew this was unprecedented in GD history. Here we were, groovin' on a cool pine forest evening, high but not pressed and our favorite band was blasting away on the finest sound system we'd ever heard. I do not recall individual songs, just the transition between comprehensible songs and jams that had us smiling for reasons we knew not. [Beautiful Jam from So Many Roads is blasting in the background as I write these words.] I do clearly recall the feeling of complete ease as I nestled down into my sleeping bag, head on cool gallon jug, looking up at the band just jamming away. We rode it out after the band departed and the next thing we knew, it was morning and the crowd was bustling, hustling, and by noon it was show time all over again.
July 27, 2018 - 6:39pm

#2204

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
October 20, 2015

Hendrixfreak

I hope you are writing these in a word processing program and saving them.You probably should combine your memories and pictures and put it out on the internets where it will hopefully be forever preserved. Maybe upload the final version to the archive someday.
July 27, 2018 - 6:32pm

#2205

Trainwrecked

Joined:
February 4, 2018

5/9/77

Any headphone listeners out there? Or maybe you don't need them. I find the bass on this GSTL recording overwhelming. Bertha and Help On the Way are good places to start. I don't get the same thing with the SB I have if this show. I think Jeff Norman boosted it somehow. Anyone else notice it? Garyfarseer - what kind of medicine?
July 27, 2018 - 6:29pm

#2206

hendrixfreak

Joined:
February 26, 2014

The greatest missed show on Earth

Long story shrunk to size... We had to get home on 10 June 1973 because we were exhausted, dehydrated, broke, without tickets, food, water, anything, so we thumbed back and tried to blend into humanity. I was 15. I lived with my parents, of course, and they needed to see some evidence that I was alive. They never even said a word about my setting out for a multi=day excursion in jeans and a t-shirt. We just did it. We heard the 10 June show was smokin' and we were pissed. We were NOT going to be caught short like that again. No effin' way. So when the news broke of a show with all three of the greatest rock bands of that time -- the Grateful Dead, the Allman Brothers and The Band -- we were on it like white on rice. Tickets cost $10.50? We had 'em. And we'd just seen the Allmans at Madison Square Garden in, May? I smuggled in a bong. A young cop caught me. An older cop said, "Let him go. It's a bong. Don't worry about it." Jesus, this whole law enforcement thing was confusing! But my view was broadening... Late July 1973. The older brother of a hot schoolmate of ours was driving to Watkins Glen. We signed on. Me, Mark L, David W, and a few others. We brought our backpacks. We had a little food. A shit-ton of Numero Uno. No alcohol. I had a sheet of blotter. Someone's adept use of the map enabled us to skirt around the worst of the traffic and we actually accessed the grounds in fine fashion, probably 12 hrs ahead of the hoo-ska-boo that eventually developed. The van's inhabitants split into units and we never saw our driver-host again, until a week later, just before the 31 July - 1 August shows back at Roosevelt Stadium. (Biggies, waiting for release...) So we hike over to the "gate," passing food trucks that specialized in big scoops of weed. We snickered, fully equipped. We were still 15. We entered the gates around midday and for some reason no one took my ticket, so I immediately doubled back to the chain link fence and passed my whole ticket to a have-not. Instinct, communal instinct. Later, my parents said that friends of theirs in Europe had seen footage that included my entrance into the concert site. The stage was perhaps 2/3 of a mile away. As we walked down the gently sloping hill towards the stage it was obvious we were a bit early. In earlier shows we were leery of getting too close because of the physical crush, the volume and the collective high that sometimes ... got a bit hairy. But fresh off missing 10 June, we marched down and claimed a beautiful space about 20 yards from the stage, just a bit left of center. On our way, we'd grabbed a few one-gallon water jugs that were set out free by Bill Graham in response to the scene at RFK in DC 6 weeks earlier. I found myself high on mescaline, laying on my sleeping bag with my head resting on a cool one-gallon jug of potable water and passing a doobie when the crowd sputtered and roared. It was late afternoon and the Allman Brothers had just taken the stage.
July 27, 2018 - 6:06pm

#2207

hendrixfreak

Joined:
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RFK, June 1973

Throughout the fall of 1972 and through the winter-spring of 1973 I had ingested numerous psychedelics, including the wonderful agent known as mescaline and naturally a few substantial doses of the Lady Herself. At one point, with my buddy Moose, we were sitting atop a van-sized boulder in a 2,000 acre wooded preserve near home and we focused on the visual margin between the rock beneath us and the ground in the background and felt that we had lifted the boulder upon which we sat perhaps several inches into the air, then lowered it again to its natural resting place. But I digress... June 1973 and me and David W are hitching to RFK in DC about 200 miles away for the 9-10 June 1973 shows. It's summer. So obviously we go in t-shirts, jeans, sneakers, with a ticket and few single dollars/dead presidents in my pocket. Next to the sheet of oval 4-way blotter. A little smokum in the sock, in case we got stopped. Look, we're 15, okay? 16 was months away. We were just up for adventure, loud rock 'n roll and, um, a closer look at the scene. I remember that some of the serious traveling hippies with LSD-dead eyes were there selling pipes, but also passing them around. We had long hair but we were little kids! These folks looked 50 but were probably 20, i.e., impossibly old, grizzled and of unknown origin. But no one actually bothered us, nor was there any attention. Everyone treated us as adults. So we slept on the ground on the grassy parts outside the stadium that night. No water, no food, no equipment. The next day, temperatures climbed towards 100. We were smoking a joint by the grate that blocked one entrance and a black cop motioned us over. We approached cautiously. "Hand me some of that, will you?" he asked. "WHAAAT???" was our initial reaction, having already experienced the pleasure of being cuffed and harassed by the cops for having a beer in the park. Turned out, cops can be cool, too. We burned two with the cat and we bid each other a good day. He was clearly amused by the scene, but in a groovy way. This was 1973 and racism and violence over the Vietnam War made longhairs outcasts, just like minorities of every stripe, then and now. Short story long, me and David split a 4-way and the Dead played that afternoon, opening for the ABB that night. The lines for water were long. We survived on The Lady, a little water and some "Numero Uno" substance we thought was hash but turned out to be opium. Worked for us that day, though, the heat was excruciating and I'm sure a lot of folks needed help in the heat. I got up close for Chinacat at the end of the first set. I was mesmerized. Bobby played a Gibson SG, which in my mind meant "bass guitar." Phil was playing a big possibly semi-hollowbody bass that said to my untutored eyes, "rhythm guitar." But I was already a huge Phil fan (being a Jer fan was too obvious) and this had me confused. At some point some idiot hurled a lit M-80 onto the stage (June 9, right? obviously in close proximity to July 4??) and it rolled up to Jer. In that day, he had a stage mannerism of sort of shuffling in place and I saw him move his right foot forward in perfect time and using the tip of his cowboy boot sent the live M-80 back out over the crowd. I don't even recall hearing it explode. The music was pretty loud.
July 27, 2018 - 5:47pm

#2208

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
October 20, 2015

Nice warmup HF

Patiently waiting for the grand finale....
July 27, 2018 - 5:39pm

#2209

hendrixfreak

Joined:
February 26, 2014

Backstory and launch....

The briefest of backstories: Six years old in 1964, persuaded my mom to buy me a Beatles LP at the checkout counter of the local discount store. Played it on monaural phonograph with one 12" speaker output. Rocked as child. 13 years old in 1970, convince mom to drive me and a friend to a Chambers Bros concert. We dug the music but were too young for 'action.' 15 years old, summer of '72, catch The Byrds and New York Rock 'n Roll Ensemble at college outside Saugerties NY where The Band rec'd Big Pink five years earlier. We drove by Big Pink. (Still Pink.) We were 15. (An older brother was actually driving...) Since 1971, been spinning American Beauty and Skull & Roses LPs on the same phonograph as in 1964, only now it's in the basement where our ping-pong table and hang-out couch are located. 19 Sept 1972, I jump in a car full of older heads with an ounce of hash in my pocket, 33 days after my 15th birthday, and we proceed to the Roosevelt Stadium in lovely Jersey City, New Jersey, and catch my first Grateful Dead show. I had already been 'experienced,' but did not drop at this show; too chaotic, large crowd, determined to survive and catch my ride home. I listened for familiar songs, jams, anything -- nothing! Everything was different. Records, shme-cords. This scene was crazy. Maybe 10,000 people screamin' high groovin', freakin', dancin', gyratin', handing you things you knew best to pass along... I was alone in the giant crowd with the music louder but sweeter than anything I'd ever heard before. The music rocked, I just couldn't grab onto a big Jerry jabbin' guitar riff that would remind me of Skull & Roses. Obviously, this was no American Beauty. As Jer once said, recording in a studio is like building a ship in a bottle. Playing live is like being on the ocean in an open rowboat. And that's kinda how I felt -- out there, surfin', knew I'd have to get home ... 3 hours into the show, I do remember saying to myself, "Well, all righty then, damn good show, YOU CAN STOP PLAYING ANYTIME, I'M GOOD. GOTTA GET SOME REST... MUST SNAG RIDE HOME..." Part II, coming ...
July 27, 2018 - 5:31pm

#2210

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
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Thanks dmcvt

The photos of the stage show how high it was. Need safety railings to keep the musicians from falling off.

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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

Ouch

Not sure what to think... https://www.sfgate.com/music/article/New-book-buries-the-Grateful-Dead-… But what about the children?

Grounds for a refund?

Cancellation of a show after a full first set was completed? Probably not. Being subjected to "Cheesy Answers" in said first set? DEFINITELY justifiable cause for a refund. Fingers crossed that we won't have to endure either scenario here in Colorado next month...

Who Can Answer?

I remember reading when Further was roaming the earth that Billy and Mickey agreed that to try and re-image Grateful Dead music was a futile exercise. Or something like that. Now we have Dead and Company with Billy and Mickey, but without Phil. I am just seeing if anyone can shed any more light on this. I love Phil but also believe Oteil brings life and bounce in the step that gives this iteration wings to let the music fly. I have heard some very interesting jams out of this group. That being said, the drawback, is...Oh wait, I won't say.

Gary - re Billy/Mickey and Furthur

I'll answer your question while trying not to be redundant, as I've posted on this before. Billy in particular made some comments in a public forum (interview) while Further was touring that he thought John Kadlecik, since he was in a Dead cover band forever with no other credentials on his resume, was just a Jerry clone: http://www.jambands.com/news/2010/12/02/kreutzmann-takes-a-stab-at-furt… Therefore Furthur seemed like just a reductive Dead cover band rather than someone like, say... John Mayer or Trey, who come from their own planets and can bring something new with a new voice and fresh perspective to write a NEW chapter in stead of just recreating the past (which Mayer is doing better than I ever could have imagined). This then leads to JK (for whom I have massive respect) posting an "interview" where John immediately states he never really "studied " or tried to copy Jerry. This obviously strains credulity since he was in a band for a decade that tried to mimic GD songs and style exactly... Massive respect for him musically, but I think being kicked to the curb by Billy stung, and that was how he chose to react. My take, anyway. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sCOn4a9xA8

John Kadlecik being a Jerry clone....

....never understood why that would be a bad thing tbh. One of those many things in life that make me rub my chin and go "Hmmmmmm".

the current topic about bad blood and such

wow. it's too bad that people with (in the GD's case, well-deserved) wealth and legendary status can be so back-stabby and spiteful and negative and divisive. ultimately, it is about the music. I listen to the GD for the GD, and strive to avoid the drama of "backstage things were falling apart", etc.

Thin Beck

No offence taken-and good points made. One Jeff Beck release that might appeal to you more, is one called "Rock n' Roll Party", which is a tribute concert for Les Paul. It features Imelda May on a lot of Les Paul songs, as well as a few rock n' roll classics. She isn't on all the songs though. Jeff plays fingerstyle rockabilly on a lot of tracks, as well as more melodic instrumentals like Apache and Peter Gunn. He dials down virtually all his more excessive trademarks..but it is still an amazing concert!

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kyle - no subject ?

how bout how bad phish sucks ass-overrated bigtime-

I don't get the Phish hate

I'm not a Phishhead by any stretch of the imagination, but what I've heard (and experienced at 4 or 5 shows) is perfectly fine. 91 92 93 94 hmm. I don't like fish, but I like Phish

Instant Karma....

....there's your subject. ;)

vguy re JK, Stoltz re Phish

Vguy - Agreed! "John, you're the best Jerry clone I ever heard - own it and embrace it. I'd love to be known as the guy who is the most accurate portrayal of Jerry's sound and style. You're HUGE!". I've driven a long way to see JK many times BECAUSE he makes it sound like Jerry's in the house. Stoltzfus - I agree with you as well. I don't like Phish nearly as much as the Dead (really don't listen to Phish at all anymore, actually) but I don't get the hate. I could see being a big fan if I had time to dig into and really pick my songs and years for each song, etc. But between my own band, Boston local acts like the B3 Kings and Duke Levine, and my 700+ GD shows, i just don't have the time for more music. If I had been in college in the 90's instead of the 80's I'm sure I'd be deep into Phish. And as long as Duke Levine and Jeff Beck are both on topic, check out this version of Duke playing the 70's classic "Seventeen" in the style of Jeff Beck's "'Cause We've Ended as Lovers": https://youtu.be/ZAoFSX921Ps

Jeff Beck / Joel Selvin

Jeff Beck is without a doubt the finest, purest musician I have ever seen. His instrumental take on The Beatles' "A Day In The Life" nearly brought me to tears, it was so well done and full of love and reverence for a time and place that left us long ago. Coincidentally, my old friend saw the same show in another city and actually did cry during the song. But he was on mushrooms, and I wasn't. God is in Jeff Beck's hands. The only other that came close was Jimi Hendrix. It's just a vibe, a magic that can't be taught. I hope he tours well into his 80's like Buddy Guy. He's the reason a lot of kids have picked up the guitar. Joel Silver's "Fare Thee Well, The Final Chapter Of The Grateful Dead's Long Strange Trip" just arrived today. It's a book. I am really looking forward to the read. I have devoured all the biographies and personal books about and from all the guys. I find that the more I learn about these guys as people, the more it informs my understanding of, and appreciation for, this beautiful music. Peace everyone. \m/

First P.N.W 73/74 tee shirt review....

....it fits!With all the Jeff Beck talk lately, looks like I should get more familiar with him. It's officially on my to do list. I'll report back later.

Phish hate

I don’t hate Phish, I saw 8 shows between Dec. ‘92 and summer ‘98. It was phun in 92 but pretty lame by 98.I don’t listen to them now, but think that Trey was the right choice for FTW, and think that he kicked ass at FTW, and don’t think that it’s his fault that the whole band didn’t practice more. Trey confirmed that he was the right choice for FTW when he joined Bob and Phil in NYC. At least Trey attended GD shows in the 80’s and knows his way around GD tunes, unlike Mayer that never saw a show until FTW. But, I do think that Kyle would be better served by posting those links to a site frequented by Phish phans and devoted to Phish. Posting those links here will only attract scorn from some (and praise from the Senator).

A Day In The Life

Cheap Trick style https://youtu.be/fhb_D6f6Cqo

Today, I learned....

....Jeff Beck has a song called The Golden Road. Imagine that. I started my indoctrination with There And Back, because I recognized the cover. That's me. Good stuff. Prog/Fuzz/Tron/Jazz. PFTJ. Pardon my first impressions....

Second impression....

....daaaaaamn! Moving backwards to Wired.

it really comes down to when

it really comes down to when you first got into the Dead all Phish Heads are Dead Heads but not all Dead Heads are Phish Heads and honestly I have way more phish shows that touched me more personally than Dead shows have.

The way to heaven

LedDed- Yes, listening to Jeff Beck reminds me of Jimi Hendrix a bit, too. Especially "A Day in the Life", which he approaches in a similar way to how Hendrix approached "Star Spangled Banner" at Woodstock. Very powerful and moving. Vguy- you are going in the right direction-the next one, "Blow By Blow" is in the same vein as "Wired" but maybe even better. A really great release is 2010s "Emotion and Commotion", which features a version of Puccini's "Nessun Dorma", no less. Its also got a version of "Over the Rainbow" on it, a song which was posted on here a few weeks ago. Its all as good as you would expect. My version of this album has a dvd enclosed, featuring 6 songs from the Crossroads Guitar Festival, 2007. And that's got "A Day in the Life" on it. This is a fantastic release. As for Phish-I've never heard them!

Instant Karma

I've just watched the clip of Phish covering Instant Karma. I'm not sure about this at all-maybe you had to be there.

Deborah Koons

When and if, Phil, Bob, Mickey and Billy are on the same stage playing together, the rights belong to the Grateful Dead. At which point, Deborah is due a percentage, from Garcia's share. I think otherwise, Phil, would have made an appearance at Dead and Co. I love Phish, seeing them since 1988. However, Trey was not the right answer for a guitarist at FTW. Trey was used for ticket sales and the chance to bring in a younger audience, new mouths to feed, as we grow in age. Jimmy Herring would have been a better musical choice, in my opinion.

Deborah Koons

DVD/Video releases

I don't think there are many HQ recordings in the vault. Most of them are from the video screens feed, at stadium shows. however, seeing that we are going Box Set crazy. How about releasing a box set of the 1991 summer shows?Heck, summer of 1989 to fill in with, the 3 other 1989 releases. Pick a show from each year and sell it as a boxzilla style release. or just release 6/17/91.

Selvin Book

Get it, while jarring McNally claims it to be 99% true. Goes to show you don't ever know.

Tabloid merchandising

Having alienated himself years ago from the band member and wife about whom his "exposé" seems to be gaining most attention, Selvin's book appears to be teetering toward tabloid journalism. With many well-received Dead biographers, original band members and photographers distancing themselves from his Fare Thee Well: The Final Chapter..., I think I'll spend my valuable reading time elsewhere.

Refund clarification

I probably did not frame this up appropriately. I don't necessarily feel entitled to a refund, but I do feel entitled to a clear presentation of the ticket holder agreement as it applies to this situation. If I'm not satisfied with that explanation, then I may feel entitled to a refund or partial refund. I feel entitled to an explanation as to what constitutes a fulfilled concert agreement between the fan and the venue. The woman I spoke to defended the venue's position by saying they played over an hour and a half. She said if the headlining band had not performed at all, then the fans would be entitled to a refund. My next question to her, was" what constitutes a performance? One song? 1 hour? Where is that stated in my ticket purchase?" She could not answer any of these questions, and pissed me off by telling me to Google it, instead of doing her job which is to provide good customer service and work on an answer. So, now I'm annoyed and want the answer. If the answer is in the fine print somewhere, then I'm fine with it. If there is no answer, and it's an open-ended arbitrary amount of time, decided by the venue, then they may be breaking their agreement, and may actually owe the fans something. The fact that they are offering free stuff for the fans of this event, in the way of free streaming of other shows on the tour tells me that they do feel some liability. Did they offer this free stuff out of the goodness of their hearts? Or do they have a legal obligation to the ticket holder to provide something? I am only looking for an answer. Because no information was provided by the venue on the night of, or anytime after, except when they were called upon, leaves me with a sense of entitlement for some sort of recompense. To me this is more about consumer rights than anything. Consumers get taken advantage of everyday in our country. Sometimes there are class action lawsuits to settle the score. Just happens to be an extremely unusual situation, just show me the fine print and I'm on my way. Also just want to add - if a major league baseball game is rained out, you get offered admittance to another game. I'm good with admittance to another dead and Company show. I'm not good with big money organizations making up consumer rules as they go along. I don't know for certain who made the call to cancel the show. Let me be clear, the show should have been cancelled. That's not the point here. Now getting back to the question of who called off the show, I believe I caught this woman in a fib. Initially she said it was the decision of both the venue and the band. About halfway through the conversation, I got tired of being interrupted and spoken down to, so I called her out on her less than satisfactory customer service. She seemed rattled after that, and when I told her that every other show they played was more than twice as long, she said, no, we made sure they played at least half a show before we asked them to leave the stage. This is when I began asking her what constitutes a full performance, one song one hour Etc. But clearly I was being bullshitted. From what I witnessed, I would say the venue made the decision, as their representative came out mid song to stop the band, who looked surprised. The fact that nobody in the band addressed the crowd makes me think it wasn't them. I'm sure they agreed lightning is bad and they should take a break, but somebody asked the question so I'm telling you what I know and saw. My end game - to ensure no DeadHead is taken advantage of, if that is indeed what has occurred here. I mean shit, I was standing next to a guy who could've been Latvala's twin, who not only looked like him, but smoked like him. He fired up a joint, took one hit, and handed it to me, saying you keep it, I packed way more than I can possibly smoke tonight. We need to protect ourselves and our people. Like Jake and Elwood, I'm on a mission from God.

Congrats Sixtus

May the Force be strong with this one...

Dead at Duke

I'm traveling in North Carolina this week. I stopped in at Duke University and walked around Cameron Indoor Stadium. Within the halls of this legendary arena is a display featuring bands that have played here in the past. There is a really cool hand drawn poster featuring the Dead's performance here in April 82. I took a picture and If I can figure out how to post it I will... Edit: Ok I can't figure out how to post my picture, but the poster can be found in this article https://today.duke.edu/2017/04/35-years-ago-week-grateful-deads-long-st… Just found it cool that such a straight-laced university proudly displays a dead poster in one of the most famous building in all of sports

Re: 80sfan

Let's see if I can get this to work... Is this the one? Or did you want the other one too?

Pine Knob Music Theater 6.20.91....

....Check out this second setThrowing Stones, Iko Iko, All Along The Watchtower, Standing On the Moon, He's Gone-> Drums-> Space-> The Wheel-> I Need A Miracle-> Walkin' Blues-> Throwing Stones-> Not Fade Away, E: Brokedown Palace https://archive.org/details/gd91-06-20.aud.ladner.2187.sbeok.shnf/gd91-… Hitting play now....

6-20-91

‘‘Twas a great show and a sweet venue, at least what of it I remeber....Sure your aware this was a “Download” release....

Keithfan - Give that man a cape!

I got teary eyed toward the end of your post. Here I thought we were all in the GD experience without anybody having our backs. But no, Keithfan is there to seek out injustices wherever they may exist in the GD experience and set things right! Give 'em hell, dude...

Sat 6/16 D&C

Spoke with someone who attended Saturday's show, and apparently it was a barnburner and perhaps the best show of the tour so far... Yes the setlist is amazing, but apparently the x-factor was DIALED IN: Set I: Sugar Magnolia, Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo > Peggy-O > Bertha, Comes a Time, Jack-a-Roe > Bird Song > New Speedway Boogie > Bird Song Set II: Help On The Way > Slipknot! > Franklin’s Tower, St. Stephen* > The Eleven^ > Drums > Space > Eyes of the World > Stella Blue > Sunshine Daydream Encore: One More Saturday Night

vguy - out for delivery!!!

….but it is a very nice shirt. I got many a compliment last night at the store over it!

Phish/Koons/Rain Cancellations

Pitch Forks ... Torches One for Three, Two for Five

Tee shirt comments....

....I wore it to the grocery store last night. Got a couple of cool compliments as well. The material is very nice.

Keithfan and the Refund

You go boy. There's been a movement afoot for quite a while across the land to give "corporations" more rights than people. If we put it in fine print at the end of phone book size document, we can do anything! They make it illegal to sue a corp, force arbitration with person of their choosing. They love to call it tort reform. Corp can still sue corps, but people can't sue corps. Only way to stop a lot of this is to stop buying the shit they're selling. Tired of small airplane seats, stop flying places where planes aren't needed. Tired of sporting events that cost a fortune, stop going. Feel a venue has stiffed you on a refund (or at least an explanation), boycott that venue. As far as poor customer service, almost the norm. First you hire people for minimum wage, give them no training (except to say no), don't hire near enough of them and bang, shitty service. There is NO profit in good customer service,,, don't you know this :-) I think(?) I've read a few harsh comments about GD merch cust service here, haven't I? I know, not much help KFAN, but in any event, how was what you saw?

Jim

that's exactly it...hangs in a display alongside pictures of Benny Goodman and other musicians who played at Cameron!

DW: I agree, vote with your wallet

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Duke '82

Yeah, I was at that show. Man it was hot in there! Got a little too juiced in the first set on blotter 'n blow. Luckily, being a recent alum of this fine institution, my security connection got me backstage to cool down a bit and watch the second set. Saw Jerry, but he seemed somewhat aloof and didn't want to talk to fans. Chatted up Phil, and he remembered the "Turn Down the Lights" incident from 4/12/78. We had a good laugh.What an experience seeing my first "Man Smart, Woman Smarter" and looking out into the audience from the side of the stage, watching my friends and the usual NC area deadheads groovin' in that heat.

pine knob 1991

Vguy... Thankfully, they never played Miracle>Walkin' Blues post Space. Glad, they never played that combo, in any set. It was Miracle>Wharf Rat.

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Anti-Fantasy

Wave To The Wind > Easy Answers > When Push Comes To Shove, Long Way To Go Home, Miracle > Drums > Space > Miracle Reprise > Walkin Blues > Little Red Rooster, Encore: I Fought The Law

Pine Knob '91

First show! From the lot I remember trying to help out a couple of fetching Toronto gals find their way around a 10+ foot high fence that seemed to stretch out for miles to separate the grounds from a neighboring golf course. They had no idea how they ended up over there. Maybe they were looking for their kite and dropped back down onto the wrong side? I dun'no. One of those mysteries in life that must remain an unknown. Too bad I was sans wire cutters. At the end, all I could do was wish them luck because I had a show to get into! So that's the hold GD can have on an otherwise revved up 18 year old dude. And oh yeah, what a second set. Just last summer I pulled it from the archives to give it a listen.

Watkins Glen Jam

Not sure how I avoided not hearing this magical jam my entire life, but it popped into my Spotify during my run this morning. And Holy shitttttttttttttt..... Oh BTW, (and this is NOT a plug for Spotify), my daughter turned my onto this app last week....there are an ASS LOAD of Dead albums/shows on there!! Pretty sure the entire Europe 72 Catalog and most of Dick's Picks, and much more...... Cheers!

Watkins Glen jam

Its been a while since I heard this-but it is surely one of the best extended improvisations of 1973-or any other year, come to that. If I remember rightly, hendrixfreak was actually present, if not necessarily correct, at this show. Shows don't come much more legendary than this one. I came across the jam on the 5cd "So Many Roads" box set from about 20 years ago. By all accounts it was the highlight of both the shows they played that weekend. I have been listening to Dicks Picks 12 today to get me in the mood. Cut to pieces, but sublime-26th and 28th June 1974, as if you didn't know. Just occurred to me-no Seastones on this upcoming box set. Shame.

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