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    Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

    WHAT'S INSIDE:
    6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
    • 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
    • 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
    Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
    Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
    Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
    Photos by Richie Pechner
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

    Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

    "We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

    Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

    The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

    For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

    PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

    Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

    Get it while you can.

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  • #561
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    she was a girl from Birmingham
    well, Muscle Shoals, actually. Sex Pistols + Donna talk = the quips above. NMTBollocks = masterpiece
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    Thanks, it’s always nice when someone can relate, especially adding your live experiences. As great as these SB recordings are, I’ve never heard one that sounded like what the show sounded like live in the venue, (usually in front of the mixing board, or even in the front row).... Used to be a musician in a past life too, and though great recordings can be made, dry, direct only or close miked instruments do not sound quite the same as the live sound in the venue. Of course mic tapes can be adversely effected by your position and the venue, your gear, technique and of course your neighbors...... JJEEEEEEERRRRRRRYYYYYYYYYY DAAAAAAAARRRRRRKKKKKKKKK SSSSTTTTTTAAAARRRR LOL always durning the most subtle, quiet, emotional ballad ; ) A&A: yasss that could really be the best for the DG “treatment”. Everyone always thinks of the PITB or Scarlets, which sometimes work, but playing especially, like with this box, can sometimes be a bit too much re-entry shall we say. A&A is perfect for that type of enthusiasm! Makes we want to go Fire up a hot one....... SUGGESTIONS? What’s the hottest Pre-Brent/Vince Around and Around folks?
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    https://shop.realgonemusic.com/products/grateful-dead-dicks-picks-34-6l… If the saga of the Grateful Dead is a long strange trip, then we’ve definitely been along for part of the ride! First, we brought you the entire Dick’s Picks series of live concerts on CD, all 36 volumes of it, many of them never before available at retail. Then we began putting out the Road Trips series, none of which has ever been in stores before. But now, dear Deadheads and Real Goners, the time has come to take the next step in our evolution as a key source for rare Grateful Dead recordings. It’s time to cross…the vinyl frontier. And we are hoping you will cross it with us, because we aren’t even offering this release to retail until you have had a chance—at a special low price—to snag all 1500 hand-numbered, limited editions of our new 6-LP set, Grateful Dead: Dick’s Picks Vol. 34—Rochester, NY 11/5/77! That’s right…we are finally putting Dick’s Picks on vinyl, and, boy, have we picked the right one. How do we know? You told us! This was by far the best-selling volume on CD from our reissue campaign. And no wonder, it’s from that magical year of 1977, with fiery performances of “Big River,” “Jack Straw,” “Deal,” and “Eyes of the World” powered by a particularly lively Phil Lesh. But for many the highlight will be one of the truly great performances of “The Other One” in the Grateful Dead catalog, 12 minutes of surging intensity and building crescendos. This Pick also included highlights from a 11/2/77 Toronto show, including a great medley of “Estimated Prophet”/”St. Stephen”/”Truckin’”/”Around and Around” (we’ve reconfigured the track listing to put all the bonus tracks at the end of the set for a seamless concert experience). Definitely a great place to begin our journey into the realm of Grateful Dead vinyl! Such a stellar performance deserves a great package with great sound. For this Real Gone release, we’ve enlisted David Glasser at Airshow Mastering to remaster the set for vinyl. David’s had a long association with the Dead; he mastered the soundtrack to last year’s Long Strange Trip documentary among many other projects. For lacquer cutting, we turned to John Golden at Golden Mastering. John has worked with artists as far-ranging as Jonathan Wilson, Sharon Jones & the Dap-Kings, and Soundgarden among many others, and he is our go-to engineer for lacquer cutting. The test pressings were approved by David Glasser, the Grateful Dead’s resident audiovisual archivist David Lemieux, and Gordon Anderson from Real Gone. We’ve pressed the set up on 180-gram vinyl for maximum fidelity, too. And we even scrapped the first pressing because it wasn’t up to our quality standards. As for the packaging, we’ve placed all six LPs inside a hardshell box adorned with the original front cover and a custom back cover featuring a great shot of Jerry Garcia from the show. Inside, you’ll find a 4-page, LP-sized, full-color insert offering photos from the original package along with the original trippy graphics. And, as we mentioned before, each of these limited-edition sets is hand-numbered all the way up to 1500. This set will not be repressed once we run out of the 1500 limited edition copies.
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    I agree, Oroborous
    I appreciate the breakdown of all the factors that go to the Donna problem.If i may add: I went to many many 70's shows (and then some). Not once did she sound so off, or shrill, as the tapes make it appear nowadays. No one ever left a show criticizing Donna for her 'screams'. Maybe the live loudness of the auditoriums kept it at bay somewhat but nobody who was there was complaining at the time. And some of the best pure rock 'n roll girl screaming i've ever heard was on 'Round & 'Round !!
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    Finally got to the 46 min PITB. Holy crap! They just kept going and going and going! Whew!
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    The Donna discussions never go away, they just go on hiatus....
    ....I like her, but to be honest, when she unloads one of those screeches, my dogs always give each other the "WTF was that!!" look.
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    I would agree that her greatest moments with the Dead were when she was singing back up. I am thinking particularly of the post retirement Looks Like Rains. Actually, all of the Dead were at their best when they were tightly enmeshed in the whole. Take any one member out of that whole and they always sounded-and probably still do-somewhat diminished.
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    When I was younger I usually liked the screaming, but have less and less tolerance for it as years go by.That being said, let us remeber ... - Bob can be just as bad on occasion - They are hearing themselves through completely different equipment in a completely different context. I guarantee if you heard much of this live it would not be as prominent and thus not as bad...especially since she was often turned way up to try and make her be heard, which does not translate well to direct recorded tape. Just listen to E72 shows for a better idea of a well balanced vocal mix including DG. - Women often don’t have the same power as men to sing or yell loudly enough so they, and sometimes Bob strain or extend themselves which doesn’t usually sound good, You can even find examples of ol Jer too. (This is not sexist. Some women have a thin or higher range that is harder to be LOUD is all I meant) obviouslly there are many great women singers that have super powerful voices, just not all) - DG obviously could sing or would not have gotten work as a studio singer. In fact most of the work she does with the dead in the studio was awesome. Some folks, and perhaps some women have a harder time singing live in really loud R&R bands. She as well as the rest have admitted as much. - Personally, I’ve rarely heard a female vocalist that meshed well with the dead. Even post dead etc. I did really like that Garcia gal that sang backups in Futhur. Something about the boys to me made it tough for women to mesh, any era...I’m sure there are occasional exceptions, but generally speaking.... - Donna imho was a way better when she was more of a secondary, back up singer (in the dead). I know many feel she was better in the post hiatus band, and in some ways she was. I believe they made monitor/gear and position changes that helped. I think time also helped her learn the material and mesh better. As some mention, the stuff she did that they learned after she joined is often better for her than the “old” stuff they learned before her. But to me, she like some of the other “non-core” dead members over the years were better as secondary players. I didnt always like when they start having these folks become full on participants. But that’s just my worthless OPINION. - Board Recordings. Yes there are some truly jarring instances on this box where it’s tough to take, but that’s more because of technical variables and the idiosyncrasies of SB recordings as much as DG herself. Unfortunately the human mind often focuses on very different, jarring, scary sounds more than soft or soothing. If all you listen for is the ugly stuff, yeah, your not going to like DG. But if you move past that stuff and concentrate on the other, perhaps less dramatic stuff she did, she can be indeed very sweet. - Intoxication;in fact, and as she herself has said, intoxication can often be very detrimental to singing. Hell all music can be sometimes be affected negatively, look what happened to Jer...... Finally, ive talked to a few people who have had a chance to meet her and all have said she is truly a very nice person. So before one is tempted to be negative and perhaps even say something hateful, consider the big picture and all that was involved......
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    In praise of DaP 11 (11/17/72)
    Took a break from listening to the box set….to listen to more grateful dead. I dove into 11/17/72 (DaP 11). This has got to be a top 5 pick. One of the best bird song’s of all time, and perhaps the all-time He’s Gone>Truckin>TOO....wow this is a great one.
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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

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Submitted by daverock on Wed, 07/04/2018 - 15:07

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A great band-I will definitely be having a look at the reissue of Sweetheart as a possible purchase. My favourite albums by them were actually the three before it-5th Dimension, Younger Than Yesterday and Notorious Byrd Brothers. But Sweetheart is great, too. This new Buffalo Springfield box set could be worth a punt, too. Nothing that hasn't been available for years...but supposedly now in better sound.
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Submitted by MKCBrown93 on Wed, 07/04/2018 - 15:08

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I was curious how many dead.net would allow me to place in my cart... the answer? Precisely 9,894 copies. I'm wondering how accurate a measure this is. Could it be only 5,106 copies have sold so far?
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Submitted by Terrapin Moon on Wed, 07/04/2018 - 15:23

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I think people are wanting to work on getting the july 78 box set before they get this one. cuz there seems there was a quite a bit of purchases for it after the positive talk of it. and why not its a really good box set, everyone seems to be taken with that Arrow Head show. well as for me i'm delving into '86 today.
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Submitted by Terrapin Moon on Wed, 07/04/2018 - 16:03

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I am currently working on the HJK February shows with summer '95 on the appropriate days of what I have. josie the cat saw a rabbit in the backyard and just couldn't understand what was going on at all. 4th of july used to be awesome for me, when I first moved here I could step into back yard on 4th of july and have an excellent view of the fire dept doing fireworks. now they moved and if I want to see em I can in my front yard but horribly blocked by trees. it sucks I wish it could go back the way it was. going to the park blows too many people and its used as a means to try sneak beer in and drink in public.
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Submitted by Terrapin Moon on Wed, 07/04/2018 - 16:16

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Mooresville is not known for its brightest individuals. the drivers here alone prove that so they should not drink in public lol. and we definitely don't have any fireworks as fancy as that
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 07/04/2018 - 16:47

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....and it's T for Timbuktu. T for Texas. And it's T for Timbuktu. And it's T for "insert a local name here" , where the little girls know what to do. One could call that song perverted. I'm just going down the road feeling bad. Listening to the top shelf American band in the Land. Mama tried to set me right. I'm guilty of losing focus. Apologies Mom.You want sparkles? Cue up 6.22.86. On my third tour. Really good show. Short sentences. I blame the IPA's. See how easy it is?
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Submitted by MKCBrown93 on Wed, 07/04/2018 - 16:53

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St. Stephen just began from May 5, 1977... Damn, this is a great set!
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Submitted by Old Chief Smokem on Wed, 07/04/2018 - 17:30

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Happy Fourth of July to everyone out there! We're a lucky and blessed bunch to live in this great country and to be fans of this band. Enjoy it all. It goes by too fast! Wave that Flag!!!
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 07/04/2018 - 18:29

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....ever release a Greeks Box, 6.22.86 better be on it. Gets better every time. The Truckin' -> Stella Blue transition is flawless. Jerry In Red....I know you're listening.
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Submitted by poetry420 on Wed, 07/04/2018 - 18:29

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“They say that patriotism is the last refuge to which a scoundrel clings, steal a little and they throw you in jail. Steal a lot and then they make you king.” bob dylan 1983
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Submitted by poetry420 on Wed, 07/04/2018 - 18:37

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sam-u sound like a sheep who sits in front of his tv watching fake news-chicken little the sky is falling- TURN OFF YOUR FUCKIN TV
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 07/04/2018 - 19:15

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....US Blues encore. Box Of Rain bonus. Fuck yeah. Believe It If You Need It.
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Submitted by Terrapin Moon on Wed, 07/04/2018 - 19:32

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so anyways, I decided to walk to corner and saw fireworks better than from home, not as good as if I parked at the shopping center
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Submitted by snafu on Wed, 07/04/2018 - 19:49

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Version of history is one one of the most ignorant I have ever read. The revolutionary generation didn't fight for freedom from fear and want let alone the right to life. They fought to establish they had the rights of Englishmen and as the declaration of independence stated they had given up on getting them from the king who they wrongly thought was their protector. BTW glad to see you support the right to life lol.If you knew anything at all about that period in our history you'd know far from wanting the government to provide with freedom from want which by necessity would require a leviathan monstrosity like we have now they want as little as possible . One more thing I'm not much of a fan of ICE but in my work have to deal with them far more than you do, if you've ever actually met one. To call them the Gestapo shows the American Revolution isn't the only period of history that you are completely ignorant of.
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Submitted by mhammond12 on Wed, 07/04/2018 - 21:32

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Watching the fireworks and listening to the usual patriotic tunes they play for the soundtrack a thought occured to me. U.S. Blues would make a great fireworks song.
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 07/04/2018 - 21:45

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....You analyze me, tend to despise me.You laugh when I stumble and fall.
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Submitted by Terrapin Moon on Thu, 07/05/2018 - 00:54

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what do you do when someone on your facebook goes off about fourth of july is a hypocrisy??? post about how fucking awesome your fourth of july was and how fourth of july is the best holiday LMFAO!! have a good fourth people
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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 07/05/2018 - 03:48

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But just a reminder that not everyone here lives in your "great country". The Dead were a World band-not an American one.
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Submitted by direwulf on Thu, 07/05/2018 - 06:40

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Gonna have to push back on that one, globe-trotting American band with a worldwide audience and groups of simpaticos, okay. But, the Grateful Dead are ABSOLUTELY an American band. I'm a huge fan of camembert but that doesn't make it a global cheese, it's friggin' French... ;)
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Submitted by dmcvt on Thu, 07/05/2018 - 06:43

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Now that our American Independence Day has passed, shall we get back to the music that drew us all here, that we share in such delight? Politics not worthy of debate here, imho, and we are very diverse, does dead.net have a political discussion page for those who would? Nahhhh. OK Cheese, I will debate, Vermont being a dairy state and damn proud of it. We will put our cheese up against anything else in the world... ok it might get sticky, yes. For example. in a small farm not far from me: http://www.vtcheese.com/members/blythedale-farm-2/ If you ever have the chance to put their camembert against ANY French camembert, go ahead try it. We have freaking incredible cheese here. Not going to even mention my favorite Vermont cheeses, don't make enough of them. World Class Cheese, like our World Class Grateful Dead. OK maybe I will mention one, because it is almost out of this world... called Bayley Hazen Blue, served to the French president when he visited the White House in 2014. So good, we shot it into orbit, well... yes folks this is how we have fun in the Green Mountains https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBoVgugOGcI Daverock, I do agree, the music groove of NSB is jamworthy.
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Submitted by Born Cross Eye… on Thu, 07/05/2018 - 06:45

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Dave's Picks Volume 27 could be revealed as early as today, July 5, 2018 (unlikely) or tomorrow, Friday July 6th, or most likely sometime next week with Friday July 13th being a *good* target date. Oh the irony of a reveal on Friday the 13th, I see a twisted humor in it. DaP 27 will sell out probably within 2 hours of the posting of the new page on the day of the reveal. The selected show? I have no idea what DaP 27 will contain, but it probably won't be from 1967, '68, '71, '73, '74 or 1977. "DaP 27 will be a show from the time period from 1/1/70 to 12/31/79." wissinomingdeadhead "had a dream that DaP 27 was 11/25/79" he could be right about that, but I won't count or bet on that one, but who knows...
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Submitted by Mr. Pete on Thu, 07/05/2018 - 07:04

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Dave's Pick's really never sell out...there are LOTS of them for sale on eBay. It saddens me, as an old deadhead, that people would buy these to "flip" while others cannot even buy one. I know...capitalism! This would be easy to fix by limiting people to one. That would mean that they would sell out in two days instead of two hours. I hope when the new Dave's picks comes out all of you who want a personal copy get one. Be well! Mr. Pete------------> aging hippie
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Submitted by Mr. Ones on Thu, 07/05/2018 - 07:25

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I am ALL IN for Vermont Cheese. And also, for a 1970 Dave's 27.And daverock, you are such a SOLID contributor here, I got to have your back. Not every US citizen is proud of our current "government". Rant over. Let's just enjoy the Dead, and the anticipation of a new release!!
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Submitted by dmcvt on Thu, 07/05/2018 - 07:35

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(fermenting to Winterland 73 bonus disc 12/4/73 Cincinnati) Just wanted to make it clear, no negative comment intended on cheese preferences, nationalities, style, aging or fat content intended I am the cheesehead, goo goo g'joob know'm say'n? just look at all those awards for Bayley Hazen Blue and after it came back to earth?... they ate it!!!! back to my kefir making... probiotics to the people!
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Submitted by Cousins Of The… on Thu, 07/05/2018 - 08:28

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"If you ever have the chance to put their Camembert against ANY French camembert, go ahead try it" That's some statement there! I've tried several American Camembert before, and none of them really came close. I'll try the one in your link if I can find it in California. However, if I'm not mistaken, the production of cheeses made from raw milk has been prohibited in the US since 1949; you cannot make a "Real" camembert without raw milk, ideally raw milk from Normandie.
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Submitted by Alain on Thu, 07/05/2018 - 08:24

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@direwulf. As a Frenchman and as a deadhead since 1972, I consider the Grateful Dead to be an American band above all else. In France, the group has never had more than a success of esteem, and it is very little known. I think it is better known and appreciated in Britain and Germany. I'm French, but I recognize that I much prefer the Dead's music than the pie chart. This is of course only a question of personal taste. :-)
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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 07/05/2018 - 08:42

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Member.... 1986; 6/30/86 Riverbend and 7/4/86 Buffalo were great, don’t remember so much of Alpine (1st time there, I do remeber it was a blast camping in the far lot etc, and that whole trip was insane!) ...recall thinking Akron was lame? It seemed like altemont with burning tires and wierd shit, but a, that might of been something I ate?? and/or the comparative let down after Riverbend? Remember Dylan came out to jam but it wasn’t happening.....have never heard this show because of my memories, perhaps I should at least give it a spin sometime.... not familiar with 6/22, will have to check it out.... 1978; I’ve tried again to get jazzed by this box, (have listened to 1st, 3rd and 5th so far), but meh, imho it’s white bread...perfectly fine shows etc, I like them (3rd is fav so far...) their just not wierd/psychedelic enough to move me. Of course that’s how I feel in general about the Mickey Godchaux Band.....I’m sure I won’t feel this way about the new Box!! 7-4-87; nother one I recall feeling was lame and the overall vibe was pure shit show??? Got so turned off by summer shit winds tour,(Alpine, Wonderland, Chrotchfester, Boston) combined with choices of venues in the fall, I sat out fall tour.....luckily Hampton 3/26-28/88 rekindled the hope. Did like Chrotchfester show..... 7/4/89; still really dig this one, perhaps tour favorite, or 7/17/89.....both were great shows, 7/4 being home base in those days was great fun. Alpine was great show, bit less fun (personal experience/logistics etc, not the show it self) So Dave WTF......tap, tap, tap hear our collective feet tapping, waiting......for number 27....... Received 23 I think it was 1/22/78 on August 1st last year. If they follow the usual timelines, they ought to be dropping this one sooner than later. Hurry up ya bastids, sone of us have nothing else to look forward too, lol, and we NEED A FIX!!! That is all. Remeber, “Dancing is a contact sport, have fun but be safe” And keep hydrated, and ware your sunblock it’s nasty out there.... Party on Garth!
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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 07/05/2018 - 09:10

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Half way through JPB’s, good so far, about what you’d expect, nothing crazy.... Selvins......not enough time for full comment, but generally ok book, could of been good if he’d get out of the way of his own coffee breath as Jon Evison would say....obviously he has an axe to grind with the Lesh’s...There was so much material to work with that a great book could of just reported things without the constant little digs and his personal opinions etc. There where also just enough factual mistakes to question his authority on the subject. For someone who says he’s not a head, but has had all this access and experience on their beat, it occasionally felt like he was just another wanker trying to cash in. I did like how he eventually tied it together in a positive spin about FTW, and how WE the fans made it happen etc, even if I disagree about the choice of Trey and his critique of the music. He did capture the essence of the excitement about the shows, and the travel plans etc. I remember feeling like all that was what made it fun.....reliving the whole excitement and process/preparations etc e.g., where are we going to watch, what are we going to do etc.... As far as surprises, I probably knew about half of it, or most of the general nonsense that was going on. I guess I was enlightened about others participation/roles in the whole mess, and why certain thinks we’re said and done. But of course those opinions are partly based on his obviously biased view, since no one inside has, or probably never will correct the record.....would like to go back and read some of the other books over again now......also, need to read his Altemount to see if this is always his style, or is he really have it out for the Lesh’s? Remeber folks, these guys are just people, not gods. So just like the rest of us, sometimes their going to do dumb/shitty stuff, especially when your scared and your future is completely up in the air etc. I’m not condoning some of the behavior, just saying that when you look at the big picture objectively, you can perhaps understand things a little.... Most importantly, we can’t let any of this diminish what it’s really all about, the MUSIC!! “Sweet, sweet, music....”
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Submitted by Dennis on Thu, 07/05/2018 - 09:12

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Old tv show called Route 66 had a episode called "Three Sides". Excerpt follows. Tod Stiles: I remember something Dad used to say. Buz Murdock: What's that? Tod Stiles: Whenever you reach an impasse look at the third side of the coin. Buz Murdock: The third side? Tod Stiles: Yea. Buz Murdock: I thought there was only two sides to a coin. Tod Stiles: The third side is the edge, the place the two sides come together. The meeting place of heads and tails. Dad used to say that was the best side, because it welds opposites together. And it's a circle, a continuous circle, closed and perfect, as endless as understanding itself.
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Submitted by 80sfan on Thu, 07/05/2018 - 10:06

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Wow I actually totally forgot that we have another Dave's coming in the next several weeks. We are beyond spoiled. Hmm, I'm always bad at guessing these things. Doesn't seem like TPTB care about what year or lineup is "due" (nor should they be), but if you ask me, I think we're going to get a show from 68 or 69. This has already been a pretty incredible year for releases so why not keep it going. Hope everyone had a great 4th (or in Dave Rock's case, a nice Wednesday). I'm still full from eating too many burgers and still have a ringing in my ear from the fireworks. Truly a sign of a good holiday.
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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 07/05/2018 - 10:26

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Ahh, great board shop back in the day..... I always liked the old saying “there are three sides to every story, side one, side two, and the truth which lies somewhere in the middle ; ) Probably apropos of the book also? As for the Fourth, wierd day, fires all around us, hot and windy, so all Fireworks canceled. It looked surreal, all dark like the flat light in December....HOA just stained the deck and this morning there is ash all stuck to it.... also, back to work today so had to dial the “fun” back.... Hope all y’all had a great day!
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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 07/05/2018 - 10:33

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Once again I have to say it. Why don’t they take pre-orders before they run production, then guestsmste what they’ll need for the rest of general market and individual sales etcThis way everybodygets a copy and they don’t get stuck with too much overstock, although some would be good for Johnny come latelys etc... Also, not having limited/numbered etc might remove some of the greed/resale factor...so people wouldn’t be buying multiple copies for resale...
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Submitted by ty627 on Thu, 07/05/2018 - 10:35

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I feel like an 80’s release is coming and the year I would like to see is 1982. If I could pick the show it would be 8-10-82 from Iowa City with an unreal Eyes among other gems. Best guess for an 82 release would be 10-10-82 Frost. I love all of the speculation around the time of a new release. We are spoiled silly and I am happy for whatever may be coming our way.
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Submitted by dmcvt on Thu, 07/05/2018 - 11:22

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point taken on this, however virtually no commercially imported French Camembert is raw milk sourced due to excessive regulations. Small scale artisans minimally process and may use raw milk, see below... What does this have to do with the GOGD? Vermont Senator Pat Leahy is a dead head.But do the cows listen to the dead in the milking parlor? https://culturecheesemag.com/cheese-bites/cheesemakers-congress-call-ou… aw shucks, it might almost look like politics but keep reading, Blythedale is a raw milk cheese producer https://www.realmilk.com/real-milk-finder/vermont/
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Submitted by daverock on Thu, 07/05/2018 - 11:38

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Good post-I have never heard of the tv show "Route 66". But your quote provides a great example of how there often (always?) more ways of looking at any given situation than is immediately apparent. I am suddenly reminded of an old Todd Rundgren song -I can't remember what its called, but I'm pretty sure its on "A Wizard, A True Star", The chorus goes-"You want the obvious-you'll get the obvious" or some such.
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Submitted by Cousins Of The… on Thu, 07/05/2018 - 11:55

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Camembert is not what it used to be, since now in France, they allow pasteurized milk camembert to be labelled as "Appelation Controlee"Dead content? Sure: John Mayer is like a pasteurized Jerry. Still really good, but not the real thing.
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Submitted by musicnow on Thu, 07/05/2018 - 12:34

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All this talk about the next Dave's pick, all I have to say is "What about Gainesville?" 11-29-80 would make a great pick and would make many happy heads!
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Submitted by Cousins Of The… on Thu, 07/05/2018 - 13:16

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I'm hoping this won't be the next DaP...these two shows deserve the small box treatment, just like RFK last year.
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