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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

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September 23, 2018 - 11:17am

#641

Charlie3

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September 21, 2015

'80's Dead

I dig '80' Dead, it's just another chapter in the book. Things can change with age and still be good. For example, I find that the ageing of Jerry's voice makes some of the later era versions of Black Peter just that much more poignant, and some of the '80-'90's drums-space sequences were awesome vehicles for some improvisational jamming and wicked transitions from space into whatever came next. And yes, relatively speaking, the Dead were the best game in town in the '80's, a decade in which there seemed little to excite me musically. As far as the parking lot scene, I dug that too - who doesn't like a big, mellow, party before a show? There did seem to be a little more of a frenzy about the scene later, but I attribute that to the increasing difficulty in getting tickets due to the increase in demand, and perhaps a lack of discretion amongst some of the eager partier's in the parking lot. Really the only show that I left disappointed was a '94 show at the Meadowlands in NJ, that one I left bummed. On another note, deadnet can't seem to decide if I'm a robot or not - took me like 3 tries to get that captcha to work.
September 23, 2018 - 11:07am

#642

rbmunkin

Joined:
February 24, 2009

It's a matter of taste

To me the Dead were all about the free form, experimental, jam music.At one time Garcia was the greatest improvisational guitarist. He just couldn't keep that up as the years went by and he got caught up in hard drugs, due to keeping the Dead going. Some people like the "songs". They are okay as filler to me, but it's his jams that I wanted to hear. Even the jams later on became kind of rote. I'm all into things like disk 2 of Dick's Pick's #8, to give you the best example. That is the greatest Dead ever, and they never lived up to that again. As I've said before, I wished they had quit after 1977 and Jerry could do solo stuff and maybe lived longer. He died trying to keep the Dead machine alive because he was employing too many friends and didn't want to quit on them. Anyway, I'll stop. To each their own.
September 23, 2018 - 10:24am

#643

nitecat

Joined:
November 1, 2010

I listen too.

First of all, I completely respect your opinion. At the shows, I also listened intently to all the players, how they interacted, and especially Jerry's solo's and his singing. I surrounded myself on the floor with 20 friends who were all silently listening and enjoying song after song. The band continually changed, adding new songs, changing older ones, reworking their sound, and the 80's versions of the band were different than the 70's and 60's, and clearly not your cup of tea. I respect that. Perhaps they were still musically interesting to the careful listener, like myself, even in the 80's and 90's. I appreciated all the versions, and listened to each one.
September 23, 2018 - 10:06am

#644

rbmunkin

Joined:
February 24, 2009

Mediocre in the '80's, yes

A rare person will agree with me, so let's just say to each their own."bopping, dancing, swirling"...so what? It's easy to dance to any music with a beat. I listen INTENTLY to every note of the music - Jerry's guitar and how the band interacts musically. Not just the "funnestness" of it! LOL! Is that a word? Compared to their earlier music, they were truly mediocre in the later years. I compare them to their own best music, not to what else is out there at the time. It would not be hard to beat what was happening musically in those later years, but they could not compare to what they themselves did earlier. And by the way, MTV destroyed music. When they came onto to scene, music became showmanship and true music was lost. "I will admit Jerry was AWOL a little in the latter 90's" Yeah, he was dead.
September 23, 2018 - 9:51am

#645

nitecat

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Mediocre???

I saw the dead regularly in the 70's 80's and 90's right to the end in '95, and they were rarely mediocre. I will admit Jerry was AWOL a little in the latter 90's. But musically show after show, run after run, they were guaranteed to be the funnest, best shows in town, over and over again. All those shows I attended people everywhere around me were bopping, dancing, swirling around if there was room. Clearly people enjoying the music. They grew and grew in popularity due to their allowing tape recording of their shows, massive tape trading, and a reputation for great shows. Then along came MTV's "Day of the Dead", and "In The Dark" with their radio hit "Touch of Grey", and that bumped their attendance up a lot. Some would say too much, as they began losing some of their coolest venues. That is the true downside of their growing popularity, the parking lot scene got way out of hand, and even when the show was happening inside, there was a huge group of folks outside who just came for the parking lot party. Mediocre? Hardly.
September 23, 2018 - 9:38am

#646

Kayak Guy

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June 4, 2015

MDJim is right

compared to any other live shows in the 80s there were few bands worth seeing more than once a tour as most popular bands played the same exact show every night for the whole tour. now most of the SBD recordings of that time are flawed and because of the nature of the mix the flaws become accentuated, but a good AUD allows you to hear what the people in the concert heard and it is not as bad as the SBD tapes make it seem.
September 23, 2018 - 9:34am

#647

nitecat

Joined:
November 1, 2010

Almost through...and a funny story

I'm almost through the first complete chronological listen. I'm up to the massive Seattle 74 Playin', scheduled for tonight's listen. Wonderful sound overall. On first listen the 73 Vancouver has a better mix than the other two 73's. The 74's sound better than the 73's. I chalk that up to their perfecting the Wall configuration(s) in 73. True also the first sets have many repeated songs, but they are played so well! Every show has really strong jazzy jams that were the hallmark of 73-74. Most of the shows have a strong Bobby presence, which I really love. I love to hear the awesome wierd imaginative chords he plays. However, I'm listening to Seattle 74, and he seems lost in the mix, kinda there, but not prominent. Funny thing happened on the way home with my box. My box was delivered to work. I was on the train coming home with the box on my lap, and a guy sitting across from me was eyeing the box and said: "Pardon me, is that a box of smoked salmon?"
September 23, 2018 - 9:17am

#648

rbmunkin

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MDJim

You are probably right about most of your post.But one issue I'll never change my opinion about: the Dead were mediocre in the '80's and into the '90's (a great show was rare) and that is when their popularity soared.
September 23, 2018 - 9:00am

#649

MDJim

Joined:
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Re: MORE popular as their music became worse

Not so sure about that.. I saw a ton of live music during this period.. not just the GD. Seeing a better live act in the 80's than the boys was an elusive task, comparatively they still delivered night after night. If I accept the premise that they had declined (I'd prefer to sidestep that controversy altogether).. Bands that performed better in this era were few and far between. Might I say.. they were still kick ass and if care and attention went into recording shows, I bet opinions would shift too. Their numbers grew gradually, over the years. The term 'on the bus' is exactly correct.. As for the parking lot/zoo scene, I think that's a separate issue than the music.. but I still believe the whole scene was 90%+ about the music. I wouldn't bang on fourwinds for what is clearly word choice and semantics. I think there's a quote from Jerry in Long Strange Trip where he admits he used to sabotage their success. I see this issue as one where there is truth on both sides and reality meets somewhere in the middle. Jerry was a serious musician, Mountain Girl is quick to point out how much he practices and what a professional musician he was, especially in the early years.. up very early every day practicing scales and working out problems. Anyway.. If I had the crystal ball of truth, I bet you two aren't as far apart as it appears and from afar, you both have points..
September 23, 2018 - 8:25am

#650

rbmunkin

Joined:
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Dude, you misunderstood Jerry

He was a VERY serious musician and the quality of his music mattered a GREAT DEAL to him.He was super bummed when they played bad. Maybe your attitude explains something I never totally understood: why the Dead became MORE popular as their music became worse and worse. The masses don't have the ear to hear what's good or bad. They just liked the "scene" and the music was unimportant.

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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

Byrds? Yes! Buffalo Springfield?

A great band-I will definitely be having a look at the reissue of Sweetheart as a possible purchase. My favourite albums by them were actually the three before it-5th Dimension, Younger Than Yesterday and Notorious Byrd Brothers. But Sweetheart is great, too. This new Buffalo Springfield box set could be worth a punt, too. Nothing that hasn't been available for years...but supposedly now in better sound.

9,894 Copies Remain

I was curious how many dead.net would allow me to place in my cart... the answer? Precisely 9,894 copies. I'm wondering how accurate a measure this is. Could it be only 5,106 copies have sold so far?

I think people are wanting to

I think people are wanting to work on getting the july 78 box set before they get this one. cuz there seems there was a quite a bit of purchases for it after the positive talk of it. and why not its a really good box set, everyone seems to be taken with that Arrow Head show. well as for me i'm delving into '86 today.

Delving into '86....

....don't miss 6.22. It doesn't judge.

I am currently working on

I am currently working on the HJK February shows with summer '95 on the appropriate days of what I have. josie the cat saw a rabbit in the backyard and just couldn't understand what was going on at all. 4th of july used to be awesome for me, when I first moved here I could step into back yard on 4th of july and have an excellent view of the fire dept doing fireworks. now they moved and if I want to see em I can in my front yard but horribly blocked by trees. it sucks I wish it could go back the way it was. going to the park blows too many people and its used as a means to try sneak beer in and drink in public.

Sneaking beers in a public park?....

....oh, dear one. Here. This may help.http://imgur.com/gallery/qPRcCg4 Right side up!!

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Mooresville is not known for

Mooresville is not known for its brightest individuals. the drivers here alone prove that so they should not drink in public lol. and we definitely don't have any fireworks as fancy as that

Weir looks like Ted Bundy here

And it's T for Texas....

....and it's T for Timbuktu. T for Texas. And it's T for Timbuktu. And it's T for "insert a local name here" , where the little girls know what to do. One could call that song perverted. I'm just going down the road feeling bad. Listening to the top shelf American band in the Land. Mama tried to set me right. I'm guilty of losing focus. Apologies Mom.You want sparkles? Cue up 6.22.86. On my third tour. Really good show. Short sentences. I blame the IPA's. See how easy it is?

New Haven, CT

St. Stephen just began from May 5, 1977... Damn, this is a great set!

6/22/86??? well that's probly

6/22/86??? well that's probly going to have to wait till after 6/20/86 and 6/21/86

Happy Fourth!

Happy Fourth of July to everyone out there! We're a lucky and blessed bunch to live in this great country and to be fans of this band. Enjoy it all. It goes by too fast! Wave that Flag!!!

Start at the end....

....then rotate the WABAK and initialize.

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If Dead/Rhino/Friends ....

....ever release a Greeks Box, 6.22.86 better be on it. Gets better every time. The Truckin' -> Stella Blue transition is flawless. Jerry In Red....I know you're listening.

patriotism

“They say that patriotism is the last refuge to which a scoundrel clings, steal a little and they throw you in jail. Steal a lot and then they make you king.” bob dylan 1983

unkle sam

sam-u sound like a sheep who sits in front of his tv watching fake news-chicken little the sky is falling- TURN OFF YOUR FUCKIN TV

6.22.86....

....US Blues encore. Box Of Rain bonus. Fuck yeah. Believe It If You Need It.

so anyways, I decided to walk

so anyways, I decided to walk to corner and saw fireworks better than from home, not as good as if I parked at the shopping center

Uncle Sam's

Version of history is one one of the most ignorant I have ever read. The revolutionary generation didn't fight for freedom from fear and want let alone the right to life. They fought to establish they had the rights of Englishmen and as the declaration of independence stated they had given up on getting them from the king who they wrongly thought was their protector. BTW glad to see you support the right to life lol.If you knew anything at all about that period in our history you'd know far from wanting the government to provide with freedom from want which by necessity would require a leviathan monstrosity like we have now they want as little as possible . One more thing I'm not much of a fan of ICE but in my work have to deal with them far more than you do, if you've ever actually met one. To call them the Gestapo shows the American Revolution isn't the only period of history that you are completely ignorant of.

Happy 4th everybody...

:o) ...whoops. One More Wednesday Night?

Wave That Flag

Watching the fireworks and listening to the usual patriotic tunes they play for the soundtrack a thought occured to me. U.S. Blues would make a great fireworks song.

Wave That Flag

Whoops.

Whoops!....

....You analyze me, tend to despise me.You laugh when I stumble and fall.

"Ship of Fools" ~ December 1979 !!

12.11.79 ~ Soldier's And Sailors Memorial Hall send out both shows , the second night includes "Ship of Fools"

what do you do when someone

what do you do when someone on your facebook goes off about fourth of july is a hypocrisy??? post about how fucking awesome your fourth of july was and how fourth of july is the best holiday LMFAO!! have a good fourth people

7.5.81 ~ "THE MUSIC NEVER STOPPED"

Scwhing ! lol TENT POLE ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zm8UFuuubro

Happy Fourth, Old Chief!

But just a reminder that not everyone here lives in your "great country". The Dead were a World band-not an American one.

I had a dream......

That DP 27 was 11/25/79!!!!!

Daverock

Gonna have to push back on that one, globe-trotting American band with a worldwide audience and groups of simpaticos, okay. But, the Grateful Dead are ABSOLUTELY an American band. I'm a huge fan of camembert but that doesn't make it a global cheese, it's friggin' French... ;)

Oy Vey, cheesehead

Now that our American Independence Day has passed, shall we get back to the music that drew us all here, that we share in such delight? Politics not worthy of debate here, imho, and we are very diverse, does dead.net have a political discussion page for those who would? Nahhhh. OK Cheese, I will debate, Vermont being a dairy state and damn proud of it. We will put our cheese up against anything else in the world... ok it might get sticky, yes. For example. in a small farm not far from me: http://www.vtcheese.com/members/blythedale-farm-2/ If you ever have the chance to put their camembert against ANY French camembert, go ahead try it. We have freaking incredible cheese here. Not going to even mention my favorite Vermont cheeses, don't make enough of them. World Class Cheese, like our World Class Grateful Dead. OK maybe I will mention one, because it is almost out of this world... called Bayley Hazen Blue, served to the French president when he visited the White House in 2014. So good, we shot it into orbit, well... yes folks this is how we have fun in the Green Mountains https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBoVgugOGcI Daverock, I do agree, the music groove of NSB is jamworthy.

Dave's Picks 27 reveal

Dave's Picks Volume 27 could be revealed as early as today, July 5, 2018 (unlikely) or tomorrow, Friday July 6th, or most likely sometime next week with Friday July 13th being a *good* target date. Oh the irony of a reveal on Friday the 13th, I see a twisted humor in it. DaP 27 will sell out probably within 2 hours of the posting of the new page on the day of the reveal. The selected show? I have no idea what DaP 27 will contain, but it probably won't be from 1967, '68, '71, '73, '74 or 1977. "DaP 27 will be a show from the time period from 1/1/70 to 12/31/79." wissinomingdeadhead "had a dream that DaP 27 was 11/25/79" he could be right about that, but I won't count or bet on that one, but who knows...

Dave's Picks "really" never sell out......

Dave's Pick's really never sell out...there are LOTS of them for sale on eBay. It saddens me, as an old deadhead, that people would buy these to "flip" while others cannot even buy one. I know...capitalism! This would be easy to fix by limiting people to one. That would mean that they would sell out in two days instead of two hours. I hope when the new Dave's picks comes out all of you who want a personal copy get one. Be well! Mr. Pete------------> aging hippie

I Will Vote For That

I am ALL IN for Vermont Cheese. And also, for a 1970 Dave's 27.And daverock, you are such a SOLID contributor here, I got to have your back. Not every US citizen is proud of our current "government". Rant over. Let's just enjoy the Dead, and the anticipation of a new release!!

I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together.

(fermenting to Winterland 73 bonus disc 12/4/73 Cincinnati) Just wanted to make it clear, no negative comment intended on cheese preferences, nationalities, style, aging or fat content intended I am the cheesehead, goo goo g'joob know'm say'n? just look at all those awards for Bayley Hazen Blue and after it came back to earth?... they ate it!!!! back to my kefir making... probiotics to the people!

Vermont Cheese

"If you ever have the chance to put their Camembert against ANY French camembert, go ahead try it" That's some statement there! I've tried several American Camembert before, and none of them really came close. I'll try the one in your link if I can find it in California. However, if I'm not mistaken, the production of cheeses made from raw milk has been prohibited in the US since 1949; you cannot make a "Real" camembert without raw milk, ideally raw milk from Normandie.

@direwulf

@direwulf. As a Frenchman and as a deadhead since 1972, I consider the Grateful Dead to be an American band above all else. In France, the group has never had more than a success of esteem, and it is very little known. I think it is better known and appreciated in Britain and Germany. I'm French, but I recognize that I much prefer the Dead's music than the pie chart. This is of course only a question of personal taste. :-)

Member berries...

Member.... 1986; 6/30/86 Riverbend and 7/4/86 Buffalo were great, don’t remember so much of Alpine (1st time there, I do remeber it was a blast camping in the far lot etc, and that whole trip was insane!) ...recall thinking Akron was lame? It seemed like altemont with burning tires and wierd shit, but a, that might of been something I ate?? and/or the comparative let down after Riverbend? Remember Dylan came out to jam but it wasn’t happening.....have never heard this show because of my memories, perhaps I should at least give it a spin sometime.... not familiar with 6/22, will have to check it out.... 1978; I’ve tried again to get jazzed by this box, (have listened to 1st, 3rd and 5th so far), but meh, imho it’s white bread...perfectly fine shows etc, I like them (3rd is fav so far...) their just not wierd/psychedelic enough to move me. Of course that’s how I feel in general about the Mickey Godchaux Band.....I’m sure I won’t feel this way about the new Box!! 7-4-87; nother one I recall feeling was lame and the overall vibe was pure shit show??? Got so turned off by summer shit winds tour,(Alpine, Wonderland, Chrotchfester, Boston) combined with choices of venues in the fall, I sat out fall tour.....luckily Hampton 3/26-28/88 rekindled the hope. Did like Chrotchfester show..... 7/4/89; still really dig this one, perhaps tour favorite, or 7/17/89.....both were great shows, 7/4 being home base in those days was great fun. Alpine was great show, bit less fun (personal experience/logistics etc, not the show it self) So Dave WTF......tap, tap, tap hear our collective feet tapping, waiting......for number 27....... Received 23 I think it was 1/22/78 on August 1st last year. If they follow the usual timelines, they ought to be dropping this one sooner than later. Hurry up ya bastids, sone of us have nothing else to look forward too, lol, and we NEED A FIX!!! That is all. Remeber, “Dancing is a contact sport, have fun but be safe” And keep hydrated, and ware your sunblock it’s nasty out there.... Party on Garth!

New Books

Half way through JPB’s, good so far, about what you’d expect, nothing crazy.... Selvins......not enough time for full comment, but generally ok book, could of been good if he’d get out of the way of his own coffee breath as Jon Evison would say....obviously he has an axe to grind with the Lesh’s...There was so much material to work with that a great book could of just reported things without the constant little digs and his personal opinions etc. There where also just enough factual mistakes to question his authority on the subject. For someone who says he’s not a head, but has had all this access and experience on their beat, it occasionally felt like he was just another wanker trying to cash in. I did like how he eventually tied it together in a positive spin about FTW, and how WE the fans made it happen etc, even if I disagree about the choice of Trey and his critique of the music. He did capture the essence of the excitement about the shows, and the travel plans etc. I remember feeling like all that was what made it fun.....reliving the whole excitement and process/preparations etc e.g., where are we going to watch, what are we going to do etc.... As far as surprises, I probably knew about half of it, or most of the general nonsense that was going on. I guess I was enlightened about others participation/roles in the whole mess, and why certain thinks we’re said and done. But of course those opinions are partly based on his obviously biased view, since no one inside has, or probably never will correct the record.....would like to go back and read some of the other books over again now......also, need to read his Altemount to see if this is always his style, or is he really have it out for the Lesh’s? Remeber folks, these guys are just people, not gods. So just like the rest of us, sometimes their going to do dumb/shitty stuff, especially when your scared and your future is completely up in the air etc. I’m not condoning some of the behavior, just saying that when you look at the big picture objectively, you can perhaps understand things a little.... Most importantly, we can’t let any of this diminish what it’s really all about, the MUSIC!! “Sweet, sweet, music....”

daverock - two sides to every coin

Old tv show called Route 66 had a episode called "Three Sides". Excerpt follows. Tod Stiles: I remember something Dad used to say. Buz Murdock: What's that? Tod Stiles: Whenever you reach an impasse look at the third side of the coin. Buz Murdock: The third side? Tod Stiles: Yea. Buz Murdock: I thought there was only two sides to a coin. Tod Stiles: The third side is the edge, the place the two sides come together. The meeting place of heads and tails. Dad used to say that was the best side, because it welds opposites together. And it's a circle, a continuous circle, closed and perfect, as endless as understanding itself.

Next release

Wow I actually totally forgot that we have another Dave's coming in the next several weeks. We are beyond spoiled. Hmm, I'm always bad at guessing these things. Doesn't seem like TPTB care about what year or lineup is "due" (nor should they be), but if you ask me, I think we're going to get a show from 68 or 69. This has already been a pretty incredible year for releases so why not keep it going. Hope everyone had a great 4th (or in Dave Rock's case, a nice Wednesday). I'm still full from eating too many burgers and still have a ringing in my ear from the fireworks. Truly a sign of a good holiday.

The Other Side

Ahh, great board shop back in the day..... I always liked the old saying “there are three sides to every story, side one, side two, and the truth which lies somewhere in the middle ; ) Probably apropos of the book also? As for the Fourth, wierd day, fires all around us, hot and windy, so all Fireworks canceled. It looked surreal, all dark like the flat light in December....HOA just stained the deck and this morning there is ash all stuck to it.... also, back to work today so had to dial the “fun” back.... Hope all y’all had a great day!

Dave’s/Sell outs

Once again I have to say it. Why don’t they take pre-orders before they run production, then guestsmste what they’ll need for the rest of general market and individual sales etcThis way everybodygets a copy and they don’t get stuck with too much overstock, although some would be good for Johnny come latelys etc... Also, not having limited/numbered etc might remove some of the greed/resale factor...so people wouldn’t be buying multiple copies for resale...

Dave’s 27 longshot but I would be happy

I feel like an 80’s release is coming and the year I would like to see is 1982. If I could pick the show it would be 8-10-82 from Iowa City with an unreal Eyes among other gems. Best guess for an 82 release would be 10-10-82 Frost. I love all of the speculation around the time of a new release. We are spoiled silly and I am happy for whatever may be coming our way.

Raw milk cheese

point taken on this, however virtually no commercially imported French Camembert is raw milk sourced due to excessive regulations. Small scale artisans minimally process and may use raw milk, see below... What does this have to do with the GOGD? Vermont Senator Pat Leahy is a dead head.But do the cows listen to the dead in the milking parlor? https://culturecheesemag.com/cheese-bites/cheesemakers-congress-call-ou… aw shucks, it might almost look like politics but keep reading, Blythedale is a raw milk cheese producer https://www.realmilk.com/real-milk-finder/vermont/

Two sides-Dennis

Good post-I have never heard of the tv show "Route 66". But your quote provides a great example of how there often (always?) more ways of looking at any given situation than is immediately apparent. I am suddenly reminded of an old Todd Rundgren song -I can't remember what its called, but I'm pretty sure its on "A Wizard, A True Star", The chorus goes-"You want the obvious-you'll get the obvious" or some such.

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