Grateful Dead

21st b-day I got dicks 3, 25, and whatever the 12/29/77 Dicks was. it rocked! who needed alcohol? everything on there is probly my favorite. it was my favorite dicks of all time. there was always a disc in the computer, Walkman or cd player the whole spring and summer I got this. it still beats dicks 3.

....but who cares. Reach into the G section of your collection. If its anything but Genesis or Gentle Giant, you're on the right path. Also, did you know, if you turn the Terrapin->Drumz->TOO from DaP 23 up past 40, it sounds better? Try it. Especially at the 6:30 mark of drumz. I get It. Primal '78 throwdown....

....it's so easy to fall. Sorry people. That was a side I'm not proud of. Bitterness is not a good trait.

Sorry.Just thought it was a fun diversion. :o)

The one that always sticks in my mind is the one framed by The Other One on 6th August 1971, at Hollywood. The frame may be better than the picture-but its a great sequence of music. Especially when you hear it for the first time. Its included as a filler on the 4th cd of Dicks Picks 35-an essential purchase.

Everyone's going nuts in England about the World Cup. They didn't need to legalise viagara after all.

I'm off on the morning commute. God I love this. 80 minutes of uninterrupted Grateful Dead at full volume. I'm going into all three Cryptical / Other One / Wharf Rats from DaP 22 and 26. 71 Other Ones are a force to be reckoned with. Saw a comment about me and my uncle. I've always turned to DaP 11 from Wichita Fall '72. Jerry plays a solo that jumps right out of the speaker at you. Turn it up loud.

My ears are bleeding thanks to that ghastly Werewolves Bobby Slide "solo". To each his own...

Well, that word choice made me laugh. I did do a deep dive a couple weeks ago into the July 78 Box and enjoyed it very much. I had forgotten about the collective histrionics and howling. I have also somehow managed to block out the Bobby slide quips and howls as a result of years of therapy. This might mark the very first time in my life I celebrated an anniversary early let alone one-time. Don't we have an announcement coming up? Shake it.. shake it Sugaree....

......this is why I go away for long periods of time. I see some people are telling others that they are not welcome here. LMAO. We are laying down the rules and the law are we? On a Dead board. I'm about to rant, so I'm outta here...

"I can tell, seen beforeKnow the way, I know the law"

:)))

Tonight's story on The Twilight Zone is somewhat unique and calls for a different kind of introduction. This, as you may recognize, is a map of the United States, and there's a little town there called Peaksville. On a given morning not too long ago, the rest of the world disappeared and Peaksville was left all alone. Its inhabitants were never sure whether the world was destroyed and only Peaksville left untouched or whether the village had somehow been taken away. They were, on the other hand, sure of one thing: the cause. A monster had arrived in the village. Just by using his mind, he took away the automobiles, the electricity, the machines—because they displeased him—and he moved an entire community back into the dark ages—just by using his mind. Now I'd like to introduce you to some of the people in Peaksville, Ohio. This is Mr. Fremont. It's in his farmhouse that the monster resides. This is Mrs. Fremont. And this is Aunt Amy, who probably had more control over the monster in the beginning than almost anyone. But one day she forgot. She began to sing aloud. Now, the monster doesn't like singing, so his mind snapped at her, turned her into the smiling, vacant thing you're looking at now. She sings no more. And you'll note that the people in Peaksville, Ohio have to smile. They have to think happy thoughts and say happy things because, once displeased, the monster can wish them into a cornfield or change them into a grotesque, walking horror. This particular monster can read minds, you see. He knows every thought, he can feel every emotion. Oh yes, I did forget something, didn't I? I forgot to introduce you to the monster. This is the monster. His name is Anthony Fremont. He's six years old, with a cute little-boy face and blue, guileless eyes. But when those eyes look at you, you'd better start thinking happy thoughts, because the mind behind them is absolutely in charge. This is the Twilight Zone.

how did Pigpen get to the top of the building? "elevator! elevator! elevator!"

at least he got that right.

overkill, anyone? AHAHHHHHHAAA!!! AAAHAAAAA!!! AAAHHAAAHAAA!!!

We play this game every fourth of July When I visit my uncle and cousin a d family. They're actually more like dead fans and not so much hardcore deadhead Message Board enthusiasts. So the game is this: my cousin has serious radio so we put on The Grateful Dead station. And it's my job to guess the performance date slash album. I heard Friend of the Devil over the 4th of July weekend and because it was they full Electric version, I was able to narrow it down to that week in September when they were playing it almost every show, Dick's Picks 11 Dick's Picks 23, Waterford Connecticut 30 trips Dick's Picks 36. There was also the recent Berkeley show, but the fake base gives that one away and it definitely wasn't it. What this version did feature was, Bobby high in the mix, and Jerry a little bit lower than usual. This is characteristic of the 30 trips 1972 show, and so I got it. I also got I need a miracle, from winterland New Year's Eve closing. They have no idea how easy that one was for me, but I know that version like the back of my hand. And then there was Bobby's slide. There was a good Scarlet fire going, actually much better than I remembered as it turned out so this one was a challenge for me. Bobby's slide guitar definitely put it in the range of April to November 1978. Now keep in mind in my experience serious usually plays released material. I discovered this wasn't always the case when they played Tempe Arizona from the november of 73, but for the most part I was expecting official releases. I don't have Sirius so it's always an adventure. I definitely heard Bobby slide so it was definitely 78. There was no let it burn let it burn let it burn, so I knew it wasn't Dave's Picks Volume 7 from normal Illinois. I considered Dave picks 12, but Keith piano was not nearly loud enough for it to be that one. I considered road trip 78 from Egypt with love, but I recall that one being a little bit rougher of a recording then what I was hearing. So I had it narrowed down to one of the two versions on the 1978 box set. The question was St Paul or Red Rocks, which I told them. As I mentioned earlier I found this version to be much better than I remembered either version on the July 78 set, and and I have heard the Red Rocks version a lot more than St Paul. I figured if one of those two versions was going to ring in as better than I remembered it it would have to be the one I hadn't listened to quite as much, so I went with St Paul and nailed it. These people acted impressed, but I think they believe I'm an idiot savant like the rain man.

>>>>>>“Let he who have no sin apon his hand cast the first stone” Right after that an old lady pushed thru the crowd with a huge boulder and crushed the sinner dead. Jesus turned and said "Mom, sometimes you piss me off" INRI - I'm Nailed Right In

Amen!

Talking of Deep Purple and Motorhead-Overkill has always sounded to me as though it was based on Fireball. Not that it matters-cracking tracks.

To some extent I understand your point of view. That someone had posted something totally unrelated to what this board is here for and that you found highly contentious is naturally reprehensible and cannot be condoned. You say "Would you not feel the desire to respond." My answer is, yes I would feel the desire to respond, but I would also be well aware that any response, particularly one that is emotionally charged, would only escalate matters and that is indeed what occurred. To make matters worse, others jumped in with equally divisive and opinionated posts which simply fuelled the rage. We all know that the subject matter on these boards ranges far wider than simply discussing the Grateful Dead and their music. Mostly these ramblings are light-hearted and humorous and interesting to follow, however we are all aware that there are certain topics that produce only vitriolic reactions and we are also aware that these subjects (and I'm referring to politics and religion in particular) have no place on here. Despite this, every once in a while someone feels the need to bring up such a topic and others feel the need to react. The result is predictable and unpleasant but could so easily be avoided. There are other places and other forums where one can discuss (or argue) one's point on every subject imaginable. Here is not the place for that in my opinion.

If I could travel back in time to do only one thing, it would be to pay Steve Parrish $100 to "lose" Bob Weir's slide.

the slide guitar era ruled

I hear you. For the most part I just read the dead info. Most of the posters while younger than me know way more about the shows and I enjoy checking stuff out. The memory banks are fraying at the edges. That said I have been studying history, politics and economics fot 55 years and when someone spews out bumper sticker slogans I just can't help it

....awesome some points from both of you. I have always been an advocate for keeping politics and religion away from this site. You all know that. I know the exact time this board made a hard left and spun out of control, as I'm sure you all do as well. And it was prior to Lovejerry. At the end of the day, if you get confused, listen to the music play....

....I called in sick today due to a bad case of diarrhea.My boss told me to get my shit together....ba-dum-dum-tisssh

what about the "Weir Everywhere" bumper sticker or

The last one.....

....and why do they keep following me?

Good to see you back. I'll chip in a hundred on the Bobby slide prevention measures. It got to me most when it was over top of something really cool Jerry was doing. The ironic thing is that the first thing I ever heard it on was Stagger Lee from closing of winterland, this was one of my first Dead CDs. And I remember thinking, wow that's some great slide, is that Jerry? And then as I got to know the band better and listen to the song a few more times, I realized that Jerry was still playing rhythm and lead melodies. I still think he sounds kind of good on it, maybe that was his High Point. Come on, nobody was impressed with my Name That Tune shenanigans at my families Fourth of July get together? I feel like I walked into a room full of PTSD people. Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?!? I'm listening to road trips 1973 Denver playing in the band medley the ride home. I suggest you do the same. Edit - Werewolves of London again. Jack baller I took your advice and put on Dick's Picks Volume 25, and I am kind of enjoying this one. He is loud as hell on this one. I actually had a pina colada at the very Trader Vic's being sung about in London. Edit II - I always get a hankering for beef chow mein after listening to this song. All right now I'm comparing it to Red Rocks. I think Red Rocks is the version the Dave says they take themselves seriously on and it's the best one at all and it sounds awesome according to Dave and everything so that's what I'm going to do.

I’ll bite on that KeithFan, in fact the guesses on November 30 Days this past year were how I first started following these boards. I was amused, amazed and intrigued by the fact that so many here had that same savant like ability. Since then I have fallen into what probably averages to a show a day habit, and way down the proverbial rabbit hole. My family thinks I am nuts, but sadly my abilities are not even close to yours my friend. So I salute you! I will keep working at it. KCJ

Simonrob: well said, thanks Kiethfan: totally dug your tale. We used to kinda do that. No XM back then but someone would pop a tape in and we’d guess....I can usual get the year, sometimes the tour, certain shows mostly cause I “know” them. No where near as versed as you. When Robbz or was it rv2 gets me my Sirius dead channel weekly show we should have you as a weekly participant ; ) Vguy: I don’t care what anyone says, your all right! Life has been beyond tuff lately, haven’t had much to feel good about etc, (crept maybe a PNW Box!) thanks for making me (us) laugh! I actually have started anticipating your daily gifts to us....

Decided to give it a spin. Certainly better than 7-2-95. The guy in front of me at 7-9-95 was using a walkie-talkie type device to listen to the ear monitor conversations. He held it upside down so that the antenna pointed down and he wouldn’t get busted for eaves dropping. When the band was getting ready for the encore he said to his buddy “Black Muddy River” and they walked out. I always wondered if they regretted leaving since it was a 2-song encore, and then it ended up being the last show. “Such a long, long time to be gone, and a short time to be there”

Ah, there it is. Thanks for indulging me. Casey, I hear you. My family thinks I have a loose screw on account of the Dead obsession. What can I say. I've always listened to tunes 24x7, and I was often exclusive with my bands: The Who for 2 years. Rush for a year, Floyd 3 months, The Who 4 months, Led Zeppelin 2 years, back to Rush for 3 months, Yes for 9 months, Stones for 2 years, Beatles for a year, etc. I just happen to be on the Dead for a record 4 years. It's their fault - they have too much music to master. And they keep releasing stuff. Icecrmcnkd when was your 1st show?

4-6-892nd was 7-17-89 Downhill From Here.

....for me, it's hard to pass an unbiased opinion of it, so I won't. Still hard to listen to. Old habits die hard.....to the guy conekid referred to. That was me at a '94 Desert Sky Pavilion show. (I think it's called Best Foods Mayonnaise Field now). We had a plane to catch. They played Liberty. Again. My buddy and I bolted. Looking back, we should've sparked a J. Missed flight? Ptth. Book another one.... Help On The Way-> Slipknot!-> Franklin's Tower, Spoonful, Jack A Roe, When I Paint My Masterpiece, Brown Eyed Women, Let It Grow. Set II. Easy Answers, Lazy River Road, Playin' In The Band-> Eyes Of The World-> Drums-> Space-> The Wheel-> The Last Time-> Attics Of My Life-> Good Lovin', E: Liberty Hmmm. Not bad.... https://archive.org/details/gd94-03-06.sbd.kidder.8332.sbeok.shnf

It was pure serendipity that we were at those shows....was going back to collage in my thirties, starting to move on, new beginnings, all that. Had mostly given up on going to shows. Would go if convenient I.e., went to Pittsburgh only that tour. (Decent show!) Had been doing merch through my cousin who was in the bizz. Had been doing Ziggy shows and the 90s version of the Band. So my cousin calls up and says “hey, the Band is opening up, why don’t you guys come and we’ll get you in with your Band lammies. So we did, and not only got in, but full access, including hanging onstage during the Bands sets. It was so cool, everyone from the Dead (crept Jer) at one point was up there watching them play. At one point Bob was literally standing right behind us. Of course once the Band was done they removed us. They weren’t that into folks onstage so much by then. So we scattered for a bit and decided to meet stage left (right) side tunnel at show time. Well time comes, WTF? No one shows. So I think, maybe I have the sides mixed up....so quickest way is back through the tunnel, through back stage hall and out around the other side, so I haul ass and again, no one there? WTF?? Of course most still didn’t have cell phones yet. So I figure like the good Boy Scout I used to be, I should wait where we decided. So I start hauling ass again, back through the tunnel and start to turn into it and head for this single door gate that is the only way through this huge chain link wall at the end of the hall to the dressing rooms etc, and this giant local security guard starts to get up since I’m hauling ass, and of course we’re a, somewhat in the zone shall we say, so don’t notice until last second, just barely enough time to swerve/leep to the side, (ahhh, to still be young and agile), and just miss taking out Garcia! I swear on my dead Mommas grave!!! Jer had his head down and was chugging along cause the band was already out there. His personal guy, the big dude, shit can’t remeber his name, had sorta short black hair, wore a lot of white dress shirts, sans tie, big portly dude. Anyway, he’s behind Jer, but he sees me coming too, and his eyes get big etc,they don’t know who I’m am or WTF, remember he got death threats that tour! But the timing of the whole fiasco was why I ever got that close. Jerry was passing through that gate at just the right moment, so his guy was blocked, and the local guy was a, let’s say didn’t appear to take the job as serious.....so yeah, I came a split second away from taking him out......I often wonder what might of happened if I had plowed him over??? I’m pretty big, and at the rate I was moving, I certainly could theoretically of put him in the hospital........ I’m sure I probably would of suffered a savage beating and been banned, but just think what if he had gone in a hospital?? Those shows were really tough to watch. Like always, there were moments, but they were more and more, few and far between......nice finish though, amazing fireworks with Jimmy accompaniment! As bad as it was though, we never thought that those would be it........ Only saw a hundred something over 17 years, but I truly was blessed with incredible luck when picking shows etc. From Dark Star and TOO at 1st show, right up until going to these final shows completely unplanned, out of left field. The gods were very good to us. Say many historic and/or “firsts” etc, and only got shut out once, 3/26/88, and that was partially cause scalpers are scum and none of us was going to pay THAT much.... Sorry to ramble on, all y’all just woke up those old feelings, brought back the memories. Hopefully it was at least a decent story, actually have a few even better? Not as good as my bazzarro Jerry brother, from another realm mother, Oroboros! In fact I believe he promised us another dandy a few weeks ago? Where you be Brother?

Gotta love Blackmores' solo after Gillians' howling, esp version from Made in Japan.

Gotta love Blackmores' solo after Gillians' howling, esp version from Made in Japan.

Gotta love Blackmores' solo after Gillians' howling, esp version from Made in Japan.

but there's a Diga Rhythm Band session from 5-30-1975 in Golden Gate Park on MidnightCafe that is fantastic.Jerry sits in with 'em on Happiness Is Drumming.(sounds like some kinda Fire patch in there for a little bit...) Get some :o)

I was lucky enough to see final show at Soldier Field. I saw a bunch of shows the last few years, and mostly enjoyed them all. Had a big group of friends together for the final run at Soldier, the first night was pretty terrible with the exception of Visions of Johanna which was exquisite. After the fireworks ended on 7/9, I said to myself "Well, see you boys in the fall". I did have a strange bittersweet feeling about the whole thing though. I mail ordered for Chula Vista later on in July and everything seemed alright. Anyway, I sat down to listen to the final show for the first time in a very, very long time tonight. As a fan of "late era Dead" I have listened to quite a bit of music from 1994 and 1995, and I must say I was pleasantly surprised when revisiting this show tonight. I enjoyed the Charlie Miller SBD. In hindsight, it's obvious that Jerry is not well, but that did not diminish the overall vibe of this particular show. It has an almost mystical feel to it. The Masterpiece, Childhood's End and Cumberland Blues are all fun and well played in my opinion. Jerry is present thoughout the set, although there are some flubs, including Weir botching Promised Land. As I sat down to listen to the second set, I was very pleasantly surprised. The Shakewdown has a very nice vocal jam in the middle, and there is an interesting little jam after it. Samson was a typical version for the time. So Many Roads needs no explanation and catapults this show into "all timer" status. What really surprised me was the band's playing on "Corinna". This was a song that was really getting it's sea legs in 1995, and Jerry and Weir do some pretty amazing stuff throughout the jam at the end. Drumz/Space was very fun. Now this might trigger some people, but I think this is the absolute best version of Unbroken Chain the original band ever played. Jerry's is taking breaks throughout, and they hit it in all the right places. As the band is coming out of Unbroken Chain, Jerry clearly wants to do Morning Dew. He does the lead in to it, but Weir cuts him off with Sugar Mags, I can only imagine how powerful that Dew would have been with it being the final show. The Sugar Mags is serviceable, and Jerry does some fun little "nana nana boo boo" licks towards the end of the song. The Prankster in him never died. The Black Muddy River is perfect and of course the Box of Rain is another "all timer". I encourage open minded heads to really listen to this show, listen to the musicianship, and Phil, Bobby, Mickey and Billy lifting Jerry up as they were about to embark on the second half of their own careers. It's really quite a magical little show. Check the tears, don't scrutinize every little flaw, but just listen and absorb and you might have your own revelations about the bands final years.

Er...there's a great one on 4/8/71, Boston Music Hall....Truckin', Bertha, China Cat, Second That Emotion, Dark Star, St. Stephen, Cumberland, Greatest Story. Sugar Mags. Bobby high in mix, kinda cool on Dark Star....PM me if you need it. Saw them at the Knick 11th to last show.Saw last Help /Slip/Franklin. It was a great time. I was unaware of any problems. I suppose if I'd known the music better at the time I may have picked up on things. Anyway, French Roast awaits me.

Don't worry KeithFan - you're show-calling ability when listening to a song didn't go on deaf ears. I never would have been able to nail that one, but I am known among my brothers and friends for being able to call a show (or come close) as well. Usually in 5 or 10 minutes I'll have it, or a close guess that still impresses them. It's kinda easy with them because they only have the releases, and not many of them. (And many given to them by me!) A few years ago my brother put on a show and instantly I heard Keith AND Pigpen on their respective keys, and the mix was immaculate and very familiar sounding. Within 10 seconds I blurted out "Gotta be April or May '72". He shot me a serious look, then erupted in laughter like I had just done a David Blain magic trick. I then correctly guessed "one of the Paris shows"... (total guess - E'72 shows all sound the same to me) - they still talk about it. i certainly don't always get the show right, but I usually nail the tour, or the month. When I start explaining the rationale they shake their heads like I'm a witch.

Makes me want to drink copious amounts of kick ass coffee and start my day with 71 GD. Right on.. I could always revisit the excellent recording and energy of 12/14/71. This one is far from stale. Rock on folks.