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    Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

    WHAT'S INSIDE:
    6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
    • 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
    • 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
    Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
    Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
    Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
    Photos by Richie Pechner
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

    Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

    "We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

    Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

    The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

    For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

    PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

    Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

    Get it while you can.

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    Bravo Vguy! Sellout Pacific NW - someone posted yesterday there about 7,800 left, so roughly half. I think people are waiting until closer to the shipping date. I would be surprised if it makes it to October without selling out. That's 3 weeks after it hits the street, and I think a lot of the people who are on the fence are going to hear how good it is and decide it's better to ask for forgiveness than permission.
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    And then there was Alpine 89, which cemented by love of the band. I had one year of college in me where I had met some like-minded people. I had a chance to go to the MECCA shows in the spring, but we didn't have tickets, so I did not accompany my friends down. My best friend (see earlier post) Andy and I decided to hit all three shows at Alpine and camp on-site. Memories from that weekend of amazing shows are good-- I skipped many extracurriculars and stuck to basics. July 17 was obviously the shit-- beautiful evening and the best GD show I ever saw. We got up front of the lawn that night and every night of that run, which kept us out of the mudslides the next two nights as they were higher up. I was more versed with GD music after a year of collecting shows, so all was familiar to me-- except the bust out of 'We Bid You Good night." I could tell it was special, but I also recall enjoying the JBG closer to send us out rockin'. The lot was rocking from that amazing show and the weather was still good for a couple hours. I had a Port-o-Potty incident that scared me off those things for years. I opened the door to one to find human waste piled a foot over the seat. I still marvel at how people perched themselves to make that happen.... We were near a tree line, so I didn't come close to one the rest of our time at Alpine. We were parked next to a fellow selling balloons (I did not partake), so for two nights we went to sleep and woke up to the sound of balloons being filled. We woke up to rain. And it rained for two days with the hardest coming on the last day/night. 7/18 was a fine show. The Sugar Mags into Scarlet was a surprise and listening today that transition was seamless. I felt ripped off, however, when Scarlet was not followed by Fire (my favorite tune at that point in time). The rest of the set was solid though. The last night was soaking wet. I can still see the dancers high stepping on the lawn on the sides of the pavilion seats during the Bucket opener. The Deal set closer smoked (as we all know from Downhill From Here) and set II was hot with some rain tunes included. We called for Phil and got Box. I remember the rain picking up during D/S and a huge lightning bolt during Other One. An amazing couple nights, despite the rain. I never went on tour-- too invested in college to make the leap-- but did Chicago shows when I could. I took 1992-93 off of shows due to a girlfriend who hated them, then hit Soldier Field in 94 and 95. After Jerry died I got into the Stones and the blues heavier with some GOGD mixed in. What got me back? "Ladies and Gentlemen, The Grateful Dead" set-- that Fillmore East 1971 set got me back and I haven't looked back. And I am listening to Alpine 89 this week.
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    The Alpine reminisces take me back... My first Dead show was as a 17 soon-to-be 18 year old at Alpine Valley in 1988. That hot, dry summer I remember well. I had moved to a suburb outside Madison, WI for my senior year after living my whole life in a suburb of Milwaukee. Tough transition making friends as a senior in a new school. Toward the end of the year I got to be friends with a good group of people-- including two who are now my best buds and Deadheads forever. Anyway, my original high school was full of Deadheads-- talking 84-86 here-- but I was not one of them at that time. Though I was starting to get into them as my high school years progressed. By the spring of 88 I was listening to plenty of studio Dead and I talked my new friends into going to Alpine Valley for a show. The new school did not have any Heads yet. It ended up being a pretty big caravan of us down. We didn't know how to get to Alpine and we rolled into East Troy wondering how to get to the venue. Heads were in the town square taking over town, the small corner store had nothing on the shelves. This was the Sunday night show that year and they sold waaaaay too many tickets for that concert. We couldn't even get parked in the lot, parked on the highway down from the venue. Alpine made corrections to this policy by summer 89. Recollections are vague due to ingestions that day, but I clearly remember the UJB, Miracle, D/S, Throwing Stones and Knockin'. A few of us had our minds blown that day (the jams in UJB and Playin' got me) and became Heads (four of us to be exact). The other dozen had a good time, but never went back and couldn't understand why some of us did. My next shows were the following year, same venue...
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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

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Submitted by jrf68@hotmail.com on Sat, 07/14/2018 - 21:45

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Only reason I bought it was for the 1967-10-22 show. I've already got a really good soundboard of it but I'm listening with nice headphones right now & it's definetly worth it. Sounds fantastic.Get some... a little further in now...massive upgrade. Thanks :o)
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I can't believe someone objected to Hippychic's posts. It reminds me of that Seinfeld episode where Kramer freaks out when Jerry threatens to report his female neighbor for walking around her apartment naked. Madness. I love this space, where every topic under the sun is fair game, but lets face it, it is mostly a sterile, barren, sexless sausage fest. especially since Kate C. no longer posts. Please keep the posts cummin Hippychic.
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Submitted by Hippychic on Sat, 07/14/2018 - 23:52

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You're a gentleman and a scholar!
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Submitted by Born Cross Eye… on Sun, 07/15/2018 - 04:21

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Getting off the subject of the Grateful Dead, a blast from my past: Lothar And The Hand People. I never really got to see them many years ago at the Roxy Theatre in Northampton, Pennsylvania, but I definitely do remember the name. I used to have their 1st Capitol Records LP, I guess -the one with pictures of the band members photos on the front cover on a tan background. I thought the their facial expressions in these photos were hilarious, and ages ago I bought the album with that being one of the reasons for buying it. Another reason to buy it was to "explore" new music and it was quite low-cost price for the time. ($2.98 or something like that) Anyway, with that being said, here's a sound sample - I think it's the whole album, or at least the opening track on Side 1, "Machines": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDpIz8E6wvs&list=PLW1w8neoXejs188MBadMB…
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My first comment here, after lurking for a few months, ha! I personally would love to see 6-4-76 Paramount Theater, Portland, OR. Great setlist, historic show, and does not circulate in SBD. That said, a mini box of both 6-3 and 6-4 might be warranted, so perhaps they'll hold off (provided 6-4 is even in the vault). Just sayin'. Hey everybody!
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Fresh transfer with new audio upgrade.
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I like the build up for the announcement. Just hoping for a good show with great sound. I'll probably be busy and miss the announcement going live, but will be checking for a Listening Party at lunch after Taper's Section in the morning. May all who need to get it a la carte have your dreams come true tomorrow!
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If you're a fan of Americana and Roots music you might enjoy thisDITTYTV.com or Ditty TV streaming on your AppleTV or Roku. Ive been watching it a lot as its like MTV was when they did videos. Learning a lot of new groups and sounds and the shows are really enjoyable. Check it out and see if it gets you goin Lost on Cedar Key.................
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Thats the placebut its 5000 light years from the mainland I really don't want to leave.........ever check this out...........http://cedarkeybedandbreakfast.com/ this is the place Ive been longing for......... Awaiting tonights soul satisfying sunset
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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Sun, 07/15/2018 - 16:31

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I was there last night. I didn't think it was dub steppy at all. Actually I thought it was fucking awesome!
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Submitted by LedDed on Sun, 07/15/2018 - 16:55

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No not the guitar company or the mental thing... the Miles Davis album. Miles Davis, E.S.P. Man, is this beautiful music. The last two songs, "Iris, and Mood" are just hypnotic. I was at the Dead & Co. shows in Boulder the last two nights. I was with some buddies Friday and had a great time though I felt the pace dragged a little. So, taking the wife last night, I kept hyping it - that Friday maybe wasn't the most stellar show and being end of tour, last night would kill it. It lagged even more than Friday. When Bob took the band into a languid, "Days Between" right out of a long-ass drums/space, I think half the stadium fell asleep. Still love the band, but, that was exactly the moment to go into "Me And My Uncle, or Truckin'," something to put a little juice in the proceedings. As usual the sound was immaculate; pristine. That band has the cleanest, purest live sound mix I have ever heard and they get it outside. Amazing. Shakedown street there at Folsom Field is a beautiful scene. You can get great food, cool swag and there are several full bars. The cops just hang out behind their sunglasses with their arms folded and watch the girls. A great weekend. Happy Sunday everyone.
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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sun, 07/15/2018 - 18:36

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I thought the Boulder shows looked pretty good on paper. But, I wasn’t there and I didn’t do the stream. I did catch the free stream of Set 1 opening China/Rider and thought it was great. Agree with LedDed that D&C has spectacular concert sound. So does Roger Waters. Worst concert sound I experienced: Van Halen 2007. Horrendous. It was indoors, but I have also seen Roger Waters 3x and D&C 2x at the same place and they sounded great. For RW in 2012 I was one row in front of the same seat I was in for VH 2007, and it sounded great, so can’t blame the arena for the bad VH sound. Saw VH outdoors in 2015 and it sounded way better, but not even close to how D&C sounds outdoors.
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Submitted by nitecat on Sun, 07/15/2018 - 19:16

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Hey now I just came a cross this on ebay, it's probably already been discussed. Are any of these extra tracks on the bonus third CD of Long Strange Trip previously unreleased? EXCLUSIVE Bonus Disc Three TRACK LISTING: 1 Playing in the Band (Beat-Club, Bremen, West Germany, 4/21/1972) 9:48 2 Eyes of the World (Roosevelt Stadium, Jersey City, NJ, 8/6/1974) 18:35 3 St. Stephen (Cornell 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY, 5/8/1977) 4:47 4 Not Fade Away (Cornell 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY, 5/8/1977) 16:20 5 St. Stephen (Cornell 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY, 5/8/1977) 2:04 6 Dark Hollow (Warfield Theatre, San Francisco, CA, 10/7/1980) 4:04 7 Stella Blue (Zoo Amphitheater, Oklahoma City, OK, 7/5/1981) 10:14 8 Days Between (Madison Square Garden, New York, NY, 10/18/1994) 13:56 the only ones I question are the Zoo from 81 and Days Between? Didn't the Eyes come out on a Dicks picks? Help I'm not a schooled archivist. :> Thanks, nitecat
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Submitted by Dennis on Sun, 07/15/2018 - 19:53

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First I don't really like Van Halen, that said,, I think I caught the same 2007 tour, and yes the sound really sucked. Really, really.
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Submitted by OKCDeadHead on Sun, 07/15/2018 - 20:03

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You are right. Only the last two songs of the bonus disc were previously unreleased. Been hoping for a full 7/5/81 release for a while now. Great ‘81 show but also a hometown one for me. Enjoy the CD!
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 07/15/2018 - 20:40

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....the last '81 release was met with spittle and brimstone. Not by me tho....
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Submitted by Terrapin Moon on Sun, 07/15/2018 - 20:47

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I have to listen to post brent. cuz im pretty close to having a crash and burn and chucking the grateful dead out the window.
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Submitted by Terrapin Moon on Sun, 07/15/2018 - 20:50

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if you sit and just focus on the sound mix quality of that '81 dave's picks you're going to have a bad time. its one of those you have to look at the whole overall package
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Submitted by daverock on Mon, 07/16/2018 - 03:31

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Agreed-a superb album-Herbie Hancocks piano and Tony Williams drumming-exceptional. All those mid 60s Miles Davis album are great-but E.S.P might just be my favourite.I only got into Bitches Brew this year. There is a 3 cd 1 dvd anniversary edition of this out, that doesn't cost so much, and sounds brilliant. Much, much better than earlier editions-to my way of thinking.
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Submitted by Thin on Mon, 07/16/2018 - 07:50

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Vguy - Love ya, but I disagree that the '81 TTATS was met with "fire and brimstone". No one dissed the show itself (as I recall). The general consensus was that it was one of the weaker recordings in the box - merely a statement of fact. '81 is one of the worst-recorded of the Dead's 30 years, so it was to be expected, no? "Fire and brimstone" seems a bit dramatic, but perhaps I'm forgetting some of the comments.
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Submitted by reijo29 on Mon, 07/16/2018 - 08:05

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Figured I would spend my Monday morning looking for news on 27th Dave. While waiting I streamed that Dicky Elizabeth Reed video. Wow, that hit the spot. I always thought volume swells could only be done on a Strat. What a glorious intro by Dicky. Thanks for posting
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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Mon, 07/16/2018 - 08:17

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I think that Vguy was referring to 12-9-81.Other than the AUD splices, I don’t have a problem with that release. T - 103 minutes until the DaP27 announcement
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Submitted by Thin on Mon, 07/16/2018 - 08:26

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I think tracks 6 and 8 are unreleased. Unless perhaps by November download? (Anyone?)
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Submitted by OKCDeadHead on Mon, 07/16/2018 - 08:36

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Thin-I was thinking nitecat was referring only to the last two tracks on the bonus disc from the Amazon-exclusive version. You are correct, there are several unreleased tracks throughout the 3-disc version. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Strange_Trip Happy DaP 27 announcement day, everybody!
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Submitted by Thin on Mon, 07/16/2018 - 09:27

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thx for clarifying. Nevermind my previous comment.... 34 minutes until they announce 5/25/74 as DaP27....
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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Mon, 07/16/2018 - 09:52

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So excited for the announcement of 27 my bellybutton has been puckering and un-puckering all day.
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Submitted by Mr. Jack Straw on Mon, 07/16/2018 - 09:55

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9/2/83
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Submitted by mcgrupp216 on Mon, 07/16/2018 - 10:10

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excellent - looking fwd to this one
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Submitted by RV3 on Mon, 07/16/2018 - 10:12

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We have a WINNER, keep the early 1980s coming for the next 4-5 picks DL!!
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Submitted by 80sfan on Mon, 07/16/2018 - 10:16

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First Wang Dang Doodle and Throwing Stones of the series...and I think only the second H>S>F in the series. Looks awesome - can't wait!
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Submitted by Thin on Mon, 07/16/2018 - 10:23

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Nice - Glad they found a good show and good recording form the 80's. Help Slip Franklin's is one of my favorites, and is one of the songs that no one has enough of. Glad to hear Eyes is NOT one of the super-speedy versions that was the norm in the 80's. BRING IT!
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