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    "The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

    And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

    Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • Thin
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    This board is dying. What's Jerry's best album?
    WTF happened to this board? Been gone for a week and I come back to read the recent posts, and it's 15 minutes of my life i'll never get back. Minimal thoughtful commentary re: the music. Instead it's dominated by indignant era-griping, indignant Phish promotions, indignant gripes about shows outside the US, douchey trolling, direct personal swipes, indignant retaliations and politically-tinged rants. 90% waste of time and energy - why am I here??? Tempted to drop off like so many others have recently because it just doesn't seem worth the energy. How about we ALL ignore the noise and emotional jockeying and JUST focus on GD music? :O The spirit of this board is to share intelligent feedback re the DaP series and the Dead's music overall. Let's focus, people. SO - In that light.... (deep cleansing breath...) I'm curious what folks think is Jerry's best album? While i love all of them, I go crazy (good crazy) every time I hear "Compliments" (with Let it Rock, Turn on the Bright Lights, Russian Lullabye, Mississippi Moon, etc.) To me this is Jerry's most personal, intimate album. It's what "Thanks I'll Eat It Here" is to Lowell George, or "Laid Back" to Gregg Allman, or "Storyville" to Robbie Robertson (Storyville is a MUST-OWN!). It just feels like a departure from every other album - like a personal diary, doin' it just for you. Can't get enough. PS: I just realized Doc's post below! Hiya Doc! Yes, it's just getting MUCH worse, isn't it? I may join you shortly. I think, like college, it's natural to move on after 4 years and grow up. Pop in for the occasional alumni day.... There's only so much you can gleen from anything - my cup may be full.
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    good question
    all of the box sets released since the return of the Betty's uses the Plangent processing.in Dave's own words the new box set sounds like new tapes compared to the unplangented versions. the one exception has been the July 1978 box which still hasn't sold out and people think sound sort of meh. only Dave's Picks put out unplangented reels and that is because they aren't in the budget. the new ABB sonic journal is a good example of how the old GDM set has been improved by a Plangent processing of the same reels used for the GDM release.
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  • Exile On Main St.
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    Are there any two track releases besides the Winterland 1973 box set that utilized Plangeant? I've read a lot about their technology, and a lot of comments indicate that there is a very specific type of audio anomaly that it corrects best, which I'm sure everyone here has heard of, flutter and wow. From what I've read Plangent is only really necessary when you can hear the deficiencies on the master tapes. It sounds like it is almost a necessity for multitrack sources, but not so much for two track sources that already sound good to the ear. By good to the ear they indicate the absence of flutter and wow, as well as the ability to listen to it loudly without distortion or changes in pitch. In other words, it sounds like you're almost always going to need it for multitrack sourced shows, because it would not be cost-effective to listen to 16 or Four 24 tracks all the way through in a concert to inspect for audible problems, and even if you did have the time, good pitch on one track might not match the pitch of another track which also sounds good to the year. Then when you mix it you realize you have two instruments that are not playing in the same register. It would be cool to compare a soundboard of a two-track to a two track release that's gone through plangent.
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    The more things change, the more they stay the same
    LMAO Rock on!
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    Bear's Sonic Jounals
    they are a vast upgrade to what was out there. maybe it is the Plangent processing of the master reels? if they can sound that much better, imagine what the GD portion of the GD February Fillmore shows could sound like? i'd pay for a box of Fillmore 1970 GD sets to replace the Dicks Picks and Bear's choices compilation sets. nonPlangent processed reels are a remix waiting to happen, lets start here.
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    The new bear sonic journals with the ABB are golden! Thank you Bear, gotta love someone that demands from thenselves that much intention, attention and presence in whatever they do. Great recordings from the maestro himself.
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    i love the smell of napalm in the morning
    how about back to the real problem here and the fact Dave's picks is wasting the reels on non plangent processed releases? join me in lobbying for a new series. Plangent Processed Betty Boards subscription series. this is an appeal to the powers that be for a new subscription series of 3 times a year of Plangent processed returned "Betty Boards" available in limited edition CDs and digital download forever. the series can start with 2/26/77 Winterland, which would be a sin not to have Plangent processed and instead used for a Dave's Pick release. as shown with previous releases from the "Bettys" the Plangent process significantly improves the sound from the tapes. by offering limited CD and unlimited digital versions it allows for maximum return of investment for the additional processing costs.
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    D & C in Mexico
    so you want to talk about D & C in Mexico? What a huge ripoff, I was checking the prices, really? to go to Mexico? Bad drinks, crappy weed, no inspections of public facilities. A woman I worked with back in the 00's was electrocuted in a pool in Mexico, no inspections so the wiring was faulty in the pools lighting, she dove in and ZZZZappppp, found her the following am. oh and good luck with any legal action in Mexico, forgetaboutit. Here's a question for the boys, why the hell do this in Mexico? why not Fla or Calif., or somewhere in the good old USA. To go, don't you have to get a passport? plane fare, cost of the show etc... 5 grand easy, are you fricking serious? Another stinking money grab or is it so Bobby can go on vacation? I would laugh if no one showed up. On another subject, phish, they can't hold a candle to the Dead so don't even bring them up, they just ain't that good, plain and simple. Now Fish, there's a band, I hear Barry M. is an attorney now and does a lot of pro bono work. Always loved the way he played. Speaking of Country Joe and the Fish, today is 49th anniversary of Woodstock opening day, they did an awesome set and you can see some of it in the movie. Good times (those were the days, my friends). Any old timers out there got any Woodstock stories? I have one but it would probably burn off both your ears :)
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    Damn
    This thread is getting salty. Even Jim done got pissed off. I was having a sort of relevant convo with Oroborous (check your PMs my man :) about this Phish / Dead "controversy". When I started going to a lot of shows in the late 90s, I would see the Allman Brothers religiously (really Terrapin?), Phish, Widespread Panic, String Cheese Incident, moe., later on Umphrey's McGee, STS9, Tauk. These bands all have their loyal fans. What they all have in common is that practically all of those fan bases also are into the Dead. The Dead were like the common denominator of the jam band circuit. Hell they pretty much invented the jam band circuit. I got more interested in the Dead from talking to all these other fans at other shows. Go to any other jam band concert and count the folks in Dead T shirts. Some of them probably weren't born yet to have actually seen the Dead. When I was younger, I really liked Phish. I loved their zany, goofball irreverance. Now that I'm less younger than I used to be, I think I appreciate a little more reverance. Dead songs, for the most part, are earnest. They say what they mean and mean what they say. Phish songs are often ironic. They aren't intended to mean anything except as a vehicle to jam out. When I'm scrolling through here, its usually with my morning coffee, or during lunch, and I'm never going to stop reading and watch an entire concert video, of anyone. I just want to read what other people think about whatever inane topic we're on at the time. That's all. Oh and I still like, but don't love Dave's 27. It is neither the disgraceful embarrassment that some paint it as, nor the most amazing 2 1/2 hours of music ever put down on tape. That's enough for me to keep subscribing. Peace.
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"The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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lots to like in 83 Boise = strangest of places thank you Dave!!!
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Hi SkullTripWould definitely like a copy of this show. Fingers crossed. Smokined
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Dave's excitement on the Seaside Chat is palpable. He listens to shows for a living. Makes me think this one is probably pretty good.
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How did this sell out so quick?I was at this show and need these discs! Please let me know if there are any available. Thanks!
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Really? What about 10/18/2015 with the fantastic segue of These Rocks are Slippery -> Banter about Banter -> Look at that Bird -> Battery Running Low? Indeed, great chat though and looks to be a great '83 pick. Looking forward to this one.
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Looks meaty and fun. Totally unfamiliar with this show and have only been exposed to a handful of 83 shows overall. Looking forward to something new to chew on amidst the ever-changing backdrop and landscape of Life. Can't believe it's mid-July already. Hope all are well and having fun out there. Sixtus
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1983 was hit or miss...but this one was a big time HIT !!!
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Jerry absolutely slays that Minglewood!Make more, sell more. Don’t let this Les Bois kid miss out on this!
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How can it be sold out when I try to order 5 minutes after receiving the e mail notice? Another bait and switch rip off!!!
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Anyone interested in possible trade? New vol. 27 for new/like new vols. 1-23. Please let me know which ones you have for trade. PM if interested.
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How long did it take for this one to sell out?
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Eyes43 was the first to email me, so my copy is spoken for. Apologies to the other folks who reached out.
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Sold out an hour before I got the email. Time to burn another one off the archives, I suppose.
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Looking forward to this Pick! Love the first fifteen years, but love variety also . . . I don't care if the recording is a tad suspect, or if it's a compilation (not that this one is . . . )--I just want the hottest stuff, whatever the era.
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Sounds like 10/10/1982 to me, which as a non-80s person, is one of my favorite shows of all time. I guess we have to wait for an official release until some clever engineer figures out how to isolate electronic instruments in an old recordings with fourier transforms or something. Oh well, one day. Fortunately the aud source there is really unusually excellent and you should all check it out. Not to stir up the pot, but the fact that it sounds like it takes longer to find 80s shows with both great SBDs and great playing is a pretty reasonable explanation for why they come out less often. Takes a lot more digging to unearth a gem.
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I don't recall seeing any calls for an 80's show on these two comment boards - this DaP 26 or the NW '73 - '74 box comments boards. Oh well, no big deal. I used to have this 9/2/83 as an audience tape set and a fine one to boot. I got rid of it (and many other GD tapes) when I was downsizing in the mid 2000's during a move from one domicile to another. A very good show, if I recall correctly. I haven't watched Dave's "seaside"* video yet, but I'm wondering if this show is a complete soundboard, or is it patched in with bits and chunks of audience recordings to give us an absolute complete show? (DaP 20, several shows in the 30 Trips box) I think DaP 25 & 26 sold out in about 48 - 50 minutes to answer RV3's comment/question.
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So glad I got a subscription this year. I'm sure this epic show from 1983 surprised a lot of people. It was good to hear Dave explain the problem of releasing quality shows from the early to mid '80s. I can't wait to get this one in the mail in early August! It's like my birthday is four times a year now.
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Glad people dont like the 80’s Dead as much as the ‘70s Dead. Hate to imagine how much faster that could have sold out. Sold out before I got the email that it was even available. Is there a pre-order to the pre-order? Damn
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I'm a DaP subscriber so I order the whole year as soon as I hear of it. Not being a fan of 80's GD, I'm happy to download it onto my PC and give the original away. As I live in Scotland, I wont get my physical cd for approx. another 21 days, so you will need to be patient. First come ,gets it. All I ask is if you live in USA/Canada you reimburse me the postage.P.M me and once its agreed, I'll get you to send me your address. Love and Peace to all Deadheads, regardless of which decade you like.
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Hot show, good pick, glad I subscribed, hope not too many patches. Thank you all for your reply's and pm's, it riles them to believe that you perceive the web they weave. Been listening to the Moodies as a palette cleanser, good stuff.
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and thanks!
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These are already on e-bay? Wow.That was fast.
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The beginning of November. I sometimes wonder about the Picks too. When they are just a few days removed from a previously acknowledged 'hot' show, I'd like to hear a few words about the reasoning behind the choices. A couple examples are 12-07-71 instead of 12-05, 12-14-71 instead of 12-15-71, 12-19-73 instead of 12-18-73, 11-18-72 instead of 11-19-72, 08-24-68 instead of 08-21-68, 09-25-91 instead of 09-26-91. I'm always glad to get official releases of shows we've all enjoyed (in lesser quality) for years. It would be interesting to hear about why 'Show A' was chosen instead of 'Show B'. Maybe one is incomplete or the tapes are damaged or maybe it's that they'll BOTH be released and one was preferred over the other at that point in time.
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You said it would be announced today and here it is! Hope the audio is good, because the set list looks awesome! Actually tuning into the Listening Party to see if the audio is aight. Love the album cover art, best of all 4 2018 Picks (the Bonus Disc is the only one I like better).
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Funny you should mention patches. I was listening to the Big RR Blues and the first couple of seconds was an aud patch. It's an excellent-sounding aud patch and the transition was seamless, really well done. Considering the quality of the patch material and the fact that what I heard was VERY skillfully done, I don't think anyone is going to have a problem with this show.
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I'm really surprised on this pick but I don't care. As a Newbie THIS WAS A GREAT SEASIDE. Tried to order another one for my buddy when I got home at 2:30 eastern but Sold Out. Cool release. Can't believe the 2 per got that crazy with the resale. Current High on eBay is a 100$
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These Dave's Picks sell out very quickly, to say the least. Would it make sense to offer downloads (at a reduced cost since there would be no packaging involved) until the demand is satisfied? It might even buy prospective purchasers some extra time because I'm sure there are some folks who would actually wait to get the downloads. This way everybody who wants the show gets the show. Some would not get the packaging, but the music is more important than the packaging.
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As I read peoples comments I often think that something must be wrong with me. I don't have any "time period" that I prefer better than another. I just sit back and enjoy it....all! Maybe I just can't hear as well as I did thirty years ago. Dave's Picks Volume 27 should be wonderful to just put on a pair of good head phones and listen.... with a cold beer...my favorite dead meerschaum pipe....and a bowl of good English Latakia tobacco. Now...how about some Greek shows! Mr. Pete-----------> aging hippie
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The Augusta show from Fall '84 (10/12/84) was released as part of the 30 Trips box set. I would dig a release of the Worcester show on 10/9/84 as that was the first show that I attended.
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They emailed us last Friday and told us when it was going on sale.If you didn’t get the email last Friday check your junk folder. I hit the site at about 10:03 and it was there, but you couldn’t post comments at that time. I got the email announcement about 10:12.
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It's a good show, nothing mindblowing I didn't think. The Jam out of Eyes before Drums was pretty cool, especially as it was Bobby, Billy, Brent, and Mickey. Very high energy in the show as evidenced by the very high tempos. Jerry's voice is fantastic, a worry I had on the era. Didn't get a totally uninterrupted listen or anything, but seems to be a decent choice. I'll probably listen more to the PacNW Box or highlight release than this one, but it'll likely come off the shelf more often than a few of the Dave's like 4, 7, and 20. But I usually tend to listen to the Dave's quite a bit when I first get them, then it subsides, and box set releases seem to get much more play. Dig the cover art on this one.
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Glad to see something from this era released, hoping that the sound quality will be good. I generally like all eras so it is nice to fill in some years that don't have a lot of official releases available.
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The subscription did not sell out and was available for weeks. Someone posted that DaP 27 was on eBay for $100. The early bird subscription was $99 with free shipping. Deja vu all over again.
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I, like many others have subscribed each year and have been OK with the increases in numbers. OUR NUMBERS MEAN SOMETHING. THE 13th DISC BONUS MEANS SOMETHING. AS NUMEROUS HEAD's HAVE SAID. IT DOESN'T TAKE MUCH TO GO SUBSCRIPTION. I'M A NO ON THIS. Sorry sir but this is crazy.WE SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.
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More skeletons. Inevitable I guess. Looks good to me. Does anybody more knowledgeable than I know if there is any relationship between the cover art and the gig or the place?
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It was me friend. How do we teach these guys about the subscription? I set a goal of 2 quarters a day that goes to my subscription. Big Boxes are different. I'm actually getting tired of the complaints. I mean Jesus you missed 2 shows and a bonus that are incredible to me but you didn't subscribe and are pissed with not being able to get #27. GET ON THE BUS
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It seems to be Hell's Canyon on the Snake River outside Boise.
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My Guess is NO. We had Drinky Crow as a run. A very good comic for those who don't know.
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No problem. Off to the awesome archive website where much of the material is culled from.
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Not only is it the first mid 80s choice for a Daves Pick, it will be the first mid 80s show that I will have listened to all year-so it will make a nice change. Help-Slipknot-Franklins is my favourite post retirement jam, so any show that includes that medley is more interesting to me than otherwise. I was pleased to read on an earlier post that the "Eyes" on here isn't played too quickly. A great song that can go tits up so easily. I have always subscribed, so its selling out doesn't personally affect me. But there's something about them selling out SO fast that doesn't sit easy.
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12/5/71 was a radio broadcast by WNEW out of New York. The broadcast is more than likely owned by them and therefore not available for release unless big $$ is paid to them. Unfortunate I agree...
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Product quantity is just too low. If things are limited edition I agree with others that believe in sharing with friends. Allowing folks 2 copies is ridiculous as I just found out about it while listening to Dave and he says they won't last long but they were already gone. I've subscribed in the past but November/ December is not a good time for me to throw down 2 nickels. I have offered to prepay as early as spring time but they must be scared about holding onto money. I cant believe we only have less than 18 k Heads or the lower levels called fans. Too many end up on ebay at scalper prices. And these past show releases/series should get fresh batches burnt large enough for profit but without having to wharehouse too much. That's just part of my 2 cents. I'm also not happy that GDM is basically defunct. No new shirts, stickers, videos, books but for years they were fine to go they Kiss route. How many faithful Deadheads ever bought golf tees or other absurd stuff but if it is always been about the music then start allowing free downloads of this limited edition scam 3 or 5 years after being released. I am grateful for all they've given us but if we cant buy these things first hand then atleast allow folks to post on You Tube or make a Spotify business deal so we can listen. I only missed 2 Dicks Picks in years past and several I bought extras for gifts. Some I bought multiple copies over time to replace scratched, lost, or stolen single discs but I just had to buy the whole release to get. Please release more copies and expand the time table for prepay. Thank you for all you guys have done.
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Mr. Pete, I agree. If they're going to release a mid-80's show---which they did--I wonder when they're going to dip into The GReeks. Possibly a box in 2020... not sure if you're referring to the 82 tours or 85 tours.... Me? I'm a pre-78 show listener. (for the most part) I do, on occasion, listen to 80's shows but I tend to lose interest fairly early---say after about 30 minutes---then dive into the 68-73 tidal currents. The waters are much more intense during this time (for me anyway) Alas, every listener has a vibe they groove to...so we'll just have to wait (or listen to archive...or message me. I have tons of shows to share) I'm itching for The ARK Boston trifecta: 4/21/69 4/22/69 4/23/69 Mr. Pete: May your GREEK desires come to fruition soon...a BIG BOX?
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just listened to this show at the gym, WOW and far out smokin show thanks to dave and the rest of the staff that put this together great choice, peace and good lovin to all my sisters@brothers in the dead community
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Some may be relieved to find the bronco does not have a beard. Though it could be considered curious by some of our more discriminating resident art critics that while both riders have maintained their well-coiffed hair, even as they ride the pale horse (a rather apt phrase in this case), our interstellar equine chaperone seems to have lost every trace of her coat. Not even a whisker of a forelock.
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