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    "The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

    And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

    Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • Heywood Jablome
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    I think Dave must have picked the most horrid chalkboard scratching recording available from the 80's so he never has to release another pile of stinking dogshit like this. I don't know how anyone can say this is a good quality recording. If this is the best of the 80's I don't need to hear any more. Not only is the recording bad but Jerry sounds like he's been on a 3 day heroin run, him and bobby can't sync up at all and even the guitar playing is questionable. I've listened to this 3 full times and while every now and then there is something almost promising it soon goes back to the hellish sound. Even my 16 year old daughter who is subjected night and day to the Dead asked why this recording sounded so bad. Not just the recording is bad but the timing and execution. I too went to dozens of 80's shows and most were much better than this and even under the influence I could walk out of a show and know it wasn't that good. This is the Dead at its worst and should be called Warts and All. Please don't waste 25% of my subscription cost on another one of these turds. You guys that were clamoring for an 80"s show need to dig the wax out of your ears and stop justifying this because you were so desperate for the 80"s. I know there is way better stuff out there. For example Frost Amphitheater in 82, both nights were great and even the crappy bootlegs I have on the dc90 cassettes sound better than this.
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    The performance is uneven, as mentioned in many posts some tunes are raced through. But mid 80s shows were always more about being there than the quality of their playing. You went because the scene was still too much fun to miss. I can accept the performance because it is mid-80s. But the sound? Not sure how this show can be touted for its sound quality. The mix is poor, Brent's keyboard is in your face, Jerry sounds like he's playing in a back room a good 50 yards behind the stage and Bobby is some where between them, but still far back. Drums? From the recording I'm guessing Billy and Micky had the night off. Just a terrible recording. This will most likely be the first and last time I listen to this show. Dave if this is the best of what's left of the mid-80s then leave the rest where they are.
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    Now that I've had a few days to absorb this release with a few listens through, this is easily in my top 5 Dave's Picks. Sure, there are a few botched lyrics (was listening to 7/31/74 recently as well, and there were even botched lyrics and cues, even in this era...nothing new), but the playing is top notch. Wang Dang Doodle - became pretty standard in the '90's, but this version has a more psychedelic gleam to it. Well played. Jack Straw - energetic high octane performance. Jerry was clearly playing his ass off. Doesn't feel ruched to me. Seems just about perfect. They Love Each other - a nice tight version that well played. Mama Tried > Big River - these cowboy Bob tunes are as solid as any other versions played in any other era. They rarely botched these tunes, even in the later years. Brown-Eyed Women - definitive for this, or any era. It's like they step it up another notch in a show that's already off the charts for awesomeness. Minglewood - typically solid. Big Railroad Blues - if this version of this song doesn't do it for you, then you probably aren't a fan of the Dead in the '80's and beyond. Looks Like Rain - good solid reading. Inspired. Deal - if this version of Deal doesn't do it for you, you may want to reassess how loyal of a Deadhead you really are. This version is deninitive for any era. One of the best ever performed. Help > Slip > Franklin's - A few botched lyics aside, the performance is to notch. Slipknot hits spaces right up there with any versions performed at anytime in their career. Franklin's is also well played. Estimated > Eyes > Jam - pure awesomeness. Drums > Space - typical for the era. Throwing Stones - cool early version and nice to see how it evolved into the staple it became. The message still applies to current events, and probably even more-so. Our country, and the world on a whole is in a particularly shitty place now, and getting worse. We proably will leave this place an empty stone if we continue to allow the types odf debacles to unfold that has over the last year-and-a-half. GDTRFB - like deal earlier in the show, if this version doesn't do it for you, you may want to reassess your status as a Deadhead. It rocks. Jerry plays and sings extremely well. Black Peter - I think this version is the highlight of the entire show. A top 5, or perhaps top 3 version of all-time. Absolutely hits everything in every possible way, and beyond. jerry's voice brings an emotional level, as does his playing. I had to relisten 3 times in a row. Worth the price of the entire years subscription alone. Sugar Magnolia - solid rockin' version. It's All Over Now baby Blue - as good as any version from any era. In regards to sound/mix quality, to my ears, this sounds very upfront and kind of in-your-face. The bass is very punchy. All of the elements are there and clear within the first couple of minutes into the show. Where reel tapes tend to have a softer more rounded feel, this is raw, up front and indicative of a well mixed FOH. All in all, this one will probably get more play from me than most of this series, because I like this era a lot, and desire to hear mloits more of it. I like all era's and this one fills a void that needed to be filled. The last couple of years I've been more focused on listening on anniversary dates, or close to them. The next big release is the PNW '73 and '74 box. At almost $200, it's currently beyond my budget to place an order, and if it doesn't sell out anytime soon, I'll eventually and hopefully be able to get my own copy. It's nice that, for a change, we get a release from the 80's that isn't a part of a $200, or $250 or $750 box set, for a change.
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    You're right my mistake. I was overtaken by my despair over the sound quality. I have rarely commented on any release here. I always accept the quality of play for the Era I'm listening. You expect a different sound, dare I say even style, in each mini era. But for me the quality of this mix is just so poor. I believe it is possibly the poorest recording they've released. Even some of the very early 30 Trips recordings as weak as they were far surpass this thing. :(
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    Live shows and live recordings-Jeff, raykski
    I like the distinction you draw between seeing a live show, and listening to a live recording. I saw countless concerts in the 1970s and 1980s that were great nights out- for all sorts of reasons-the music being just one of them. Sitting at home, now, listening to a recording-its a world away really. I love listening to live recordings-but just because I had a great time at a particular live show is in no way an indicator that I would enjoy listening to a recording of that live show at home, now.
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    Hey Rayski:The keyboardist on this show is Brent, not Keith; the drummers are Billy & Mickey.
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    #10297 finally landed last night. There have been some pretty good links already, but If you need a higher-res, color-corrected version of Tim McDonagh's cover art, here are my scans:https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lz8295bje2dpsxf/AAA2cik9bkrnlJ8kxsNPA1iQa?dl… There’s a “Rectangular” version (just like the CD cover) plus a “Square” version for anybody so inclined You can also find my scans for all Dave’s Picks and Bonus covers at: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/qx5j9ydoc7bzm8z/AAD8yK_vCv_kQ-oLkLJQVCEla?dl… Pass ‘em around, and keep the music playing.
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    I saw 20 shows in 1983 and for sure had a great time. But listening to this one again gives me pause. Jerry's voice is shot, they race through most of the songs (Jack Straw, Deal, Help on the Way) and the Help on the Way is cringeworthy. He can't remember the words, he can't play the leads, they cannot get it together. Hey, we have a whole decade of amazing stuff (68-78) so it's not like there's nowhere to turn. But I'm baffled that the masses are clamoring for more 80s stuff, or raving about this show, neither the sound quality nor the musicianship is notable. Back to '72 indeed!
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    We recently moved so things have been a little crazy lately. My wife laughed when literally the first piece of mail we received at our new place was Dap 27. However, I didn't get a chance to listen to it until today. Even before I put it on, I was in a mood for an 83 show. Sirius was playing a chunk of 10/21/83 when I was in the car earlier today so I was already in the right mindset. I have heard others say there are sound issues, but it sounds just fine to me. It sounds like an 80s show which is not an insult in any way. It's not flawless, but neither were the 80s, especially 83. It captures the era and overall I'm really happy with it. I obviously like 80's shows in general so I'm biased, but this is a really fun show. The boys are obviously into it and having a great time. I'm happy to have this one in my collection and I have a feeling I'll be spending the rest of the week going down the 83 rabbit hole. thanks Dave and co!
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    Your ears are fine this doesn't sound that good. After some equalizing mostly lowering the middle around 400hz to 600hz and around 2000khz and increasing a little on the ends it's not too bad. The only Dead I have official or not that doesn't need at least some equalizing is (you guessed it) Spring 90 The Other One.
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"The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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I would guess the band has their own soundboard of 12/7/71, which WNEW (probably W_Old now) would not own. From Wikipedia - Hal Kant: "Kant became best known for his representation of the Grateful Dead, bringing the band millions of dollars in revenue, through his management of the band's intellectual property and merchandising rights. At Kant's recommendation, the group was one of the few rock 'n roll pioneers to retain ownership of their music masters and publishing rights." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Kant I think they have the master and it will be released one day. It is also possible it's a multi-track or that additional care went into the recording process as it aired on the radio. It was one of my first tapes although I did not have the whole show at first.. and I loved it. The numbers issue keeps coming up.. Not stating fact, just opinion.. By the end of the Road Trips series.. sales were under-performing (~ less than 8k copies until months or sometimes years later????) and then they went out of print. There certainly was no rush to buy them as they sat in the on-line store for quite some time. The subscription series which might very well be designed to sell out is an attempt to get people's hands out of their pockets and buy exactly when they are printed (if not before). They are seeing a spike in interest.. in 2012 the run was 12k units and now it's comfortably selling out at 18.5k units. I hope this continues it's good for everyone, but each year there is a bit of a guessing game on the size of the production run. If people would have reliably made the purchase as they were produced, they wouldn't be using this model.. So now it's either subscribe or take your chances and has been this way for over five years. My two cents.. No hard feelings, just subscribe in October / November.
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For you are a conquered people! This show Phil specifically mentions in his book 'Searching for the Sound'. Looks of stories and good vibes passed down the line in lore from the folks that were there... http://www.dead.net/show/september-2-1983 Nice out of the box pick IMO with a rare sighting of Help>Slip>Franklin's. Let's see how note perfect it is!! I am looking forward to it like hopefully the rest of you are! What about Sporto?
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Reminds me a little of DaP 9 on first glance...
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Dap 28 how about 12/1/79
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I attended this show. I was a graduate student at Montana State University in Bozeman in '83. My buddy, Zimmie, and I drove to Boise for the show. Boise was completely overrun by Dead Heads. Remember, this was long before Boise became the hip place it now is. I remember that just before they started playing, they were having a debate on stage as to how much of the audience was from out of town vs. locals. Phil stepped to the mike and poised the question. When he asked how many were local, there was a smattering of applause. When he asked how many were from out of town, there was a thunderous roar. Right after that was when he uttered his call for citizens of Boise to submit or perish for they were a conquered people, which is recorded on the soundboard that circulates. After the Boise show we went to Park City, then to Red Rocks. The show at Park City was at the ski area on a beautiful sunny afternoon. Not very crowded and a wonderful relaxed vibe with an excellent Spanish Jam. We then headed for Red Rocks. On the way to Denver, we stopped in Rock Springs at a grocery store to buy beer. Just as we were coming out, Phil Lesh pulled in and headed into the store. He was buying Heineken, we were buying Budweiser. He was apparently driving between shows with Jill. When he came out, a bunch of us gathered around to talk to him about the two previous shows. He was very friendly and gracious to talk with us as long as he did. Finally, one of the people in the group started begging for tickets to the next shows and that was it, he said it was time to go. The shows in Red Rocks were a lot of fun. However, we were out of money and had to head back to Montana after they were over. Thus, we missed the shows at the Downs Of Santa Fe, which were arguably some of the best shows of this mini tour. Ironically, the woman who is now my wife lived with her parents a mile or two from the Downs at that time in La Cienega. I used to drive by the race track all the time--now abandoned--and tried to imagine what the shows must have been like. As I said, it's a shame that this mini tour couldn't have been released as a box set.
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Expect Dave's Picks offering expanded to 20K units next year. Or maybe 19K, for some sort of weird symmetry with annual growth potential.
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Early bird $99 and includes free shipping. $99!!!!!!! I don’t know from experience but people have told me that a 1/4 ounce of premium weed costs that much or more. How many people here that claim they can’t afford the subscription don’t think twice about spending $100 on weed every month? Every week?
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Did not see a show from 1983 coming. Am I excited? I just did a victory lap around the block!!!
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Whew! This release could not have come at a better time. I ducked my head in here a week or two ago and was aghast at the vitriol being spewed. I just returned from a trip to the motherland (San Fran) and I was in a super peaced-out mood. So many uptight people here in the northeast, and apparently around this forum. Being able to freely purchase and enjoy California’s finest was just a small piece of a grate trip out west. Dig the different mindset of the left coast 1983. Can’t wait. I’m in the “anything released is gold to me” group. Sure, I had a hankering for that fall ’79 nectar, and I’m still holding out hope for a ’79 box. With all the released material out and collected by yours truly, it’s getting harder and harder to comb the archive. There’s just soooo much stuff! Hashtag Dead problems. I’ve been dipping into ’71 lately, specifically TATS. I think of Forensic Doc each and every time I transport back to that year. Tip of the hat to ya Doc! Naturally spot on assessments of a remarkable year. Dark Star Orchestra Tropicana in Atlantic City Aug 8th is next on tap for me. Off dead topic: John Coltrane’s “Both Directions at Once” – lost recordings: Smoking hot! Highly recommended. Good listening to all!
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not too many people citing being shut out. whoever reads this, if you don't know: subscribe.
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Listening to it now. Soundw Grate a Grateful Thanks Love my Google music subscription $10 a month, not much music you cannot find Agreed! Way to many uptight people here in the northeast about the dead, just let this music flow, and let it go were it wants. Every time i walk into a dead concert/ D&C I leave the outside world behind, such a grate place to be knowing The Dead would be out soon...... I live in the NorthEast BTW.
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This baby went fast. Only goes to show, yeah, the 70s rock, but there is PLENTY of demand for later stuff too. Used to love this 1st set audience tape, as that Phil intro to the crowd was the most hilarious I ever heard in my whole tape collection. The whole band sounds so hyper-coked-up!
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So I am really excited for this release. I don’t have a lot of familiarity with 83 shows. I was recently introduced to the 6/18, Saratoga Springs show which I liked. For this show, I have not heard a single note of it so that is always a good thing. For me I love going into shows blind, so to speak. It makes the listening a little more exciting. Obviously I know the setlist, so the surprise of what song comes next is not there, but I have no clue of how it went down. I can look at the set list and make a guess on how things went down based on the year and such. Yet as many have said “can’t judge a show by the set list”. I agree with that 100%. I also agree with what that several people have said in earlier comments that it is nice to see a change of pace. I certainly would have been in to a show from 72. 73, or 74. However we are getting our fill of those years from the Pacific NW box and recent DaP releases. The only thing I may differ on with some is what a change of pace could be. Of course this 83 show is one great example of a change of pace from the recent releases. I never would have even looked at this show had it not been released, to be real truthful. I am super grateful for this release simply for that. Yet a change of pace for me would have been a 68, 76, 79, show, just as much as and early to mid 80s show would be. I will always maintain that Dave L. is one of us and he is always thinking of us when he works to put out a show for official release. We know the sound quality by in large will be outstanding and we know the show will be a good one. Now there have been a few releases in DaP series that have generated some mixed reviews. There are few that I myself think are good but not as good as others. That will always be subjective to the listener. The bottom line is that we know that with the DaP subscription, every subscriber gets 4 complete, great sounding, good shows per year. That subscription has to be one of the best things Dead.net came up with. Finally I am bummed out to see some miss out of these releases only to have to tackle the secondary market. I have a horror story I will share some time about my pursuit ( which is on going) to get DaP 5....
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What a wonderful Monday surprise to finally get a smokin' show from September of 1983... a very auspicious time and the precursor to that excellent fall tour that had so many outstanding shows. I have to say after reading Dave's liner notes for the 10/21/83 show, in 30 Trips Around the Sun, it was painfully clear he did not get it. I guess hearing a Help > Slipknot!> Franklin's every other show or Phil playing his new six string bass was not enough to win him over or my god Brent. It is clear that the period from 1982-1986 has much must hear material and hopefully this show represents a major turning point. I missed this show but my first foray to the inspiring Rocky Mountains and New Mexico was the Red Rocks shows that followed this show four night later. For anyone who was luckily enough to see the band at Red Rocks it was a cosmic culture shock of the highest order.For this East Coast head you were really on the road on this tour. Read Rocks was a melting pot of East and the laid back, but no less enthusiastic West Coast heads; who enjoyed watching us gets our minds blown off the Rocks. Everyone together created a wonderful intimacy that soon would become more fleeting as time moved forward. At the end of the first show Wavy told everyone about Chief Hosa and we all high tailed it over there. A late night of camp fires to keep festivities going strong. I remember hanging with these dudes from New York, who passionately believed the GD should be called the Phil Lesh Band, especially after another killer Help> Slip> Franklin's played earlier that night. Dave please take note. Then to wake up that next crisp Colorado morning and have the Rockies right in front of you...Wow! Hitch hiking to Santa Fe which featured the best scene I was every part of. I am not as familiar with this show, as I am with the ones that I saw but everyone was raving about it when they arrived in Morrison. I have to note the Big RR Blues is on par with the one played a year earlier in Kansas City and the one that would follow later in October in Hartford, where Jerry just completely unleashes. Jerry let's loose here big time as well. As for Dave's reality check in his SS chat that many shows from this period have not survived the test of time is not encouraging but the answer might be more matrix or even a remaster killer audience recording. Either way I eagerly await heading back out to Rockies during that memorable September of 1983.
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So excited I had to top off my sub. with an al la carte. Now I don't know what I'm going to do with it? Expensive beer coaster. Listening party is a sweet snack!! Peace.
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What were you yelling while doing that victory lap around the block? I swear I heard something here in Massachusetts at around that time. Just wondering. peace.
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Give or take a few days based on where you are In the US. Iirc sub sets get shipped first. A Dave approved 1983 show?!? Who'da thunk it??? Yes!
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....so close, but yet so far. I remember this tape. I remember it being en fuego. No complaints here. Except jumping forward 8 days. Maybe they are listening to me, and waiting for a better source. Yeah. I'm going with that theory.
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all the people that say they are getting shut out & and all the people that want to strongly defend subscribing fight to the death for my amusement. winner gets to go to prison and get their butthole raped. so in other words there will be no winner lol.
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guit30- I forgot about the 10am thing, but did check my emails at a couple minutes after 11am. I quickly clicked over to hear, and it was already gone. So it sold out in under an hour!
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So freakin' stoked,this '83 show is sure to be a MONSTER! Thankful for the Subscription this year!!! What a killer setlist this show is packin'- I . Can. Not. Wait.!!! B.T.W. what gives on this years box not sellin' out, it's been well over a Month!?!? I already see it marked up on Ebay for much more $ than here! My advice: Splurge now and have no regrets later!!!
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100 bucks already? man even the 11/6/77 one is still under a hundred I looked to see if I could get a deal on some of them. I did not as I will never pay a hundred and over for one show that's psshhh yeah fuckin right lol
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I don't think the fact that these shows sell out, and what they sell for, is necessarily an indication of the quality of the show in question. I get the impression that they sell out to people who don't really follow the band, but who are using the limited edition problem to make a fast buck. The music doesn't necessarily go out to those that value it most. I'm listening to the 30 Trips 1983 show as I type-21st October. Sounds okay-great opening "Music Never Stopped" and "Cumberland". I'm not a big fan of Bob singing the blues-but there's also some great Jerry licks on "C.C. Rider". Seems like a good first set, and a happy harbinger of what's to come.
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morning , is this still available ?regards leslie
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I was wondering on the staying quality of each medium. I would think the cassette, would degrade faster than the reel to reel and the VHS beta tapes. I understand the re-baking process. Can't help but think some of cassette masters are no longer usable for commercial release.
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As I have said many times on this site about Dave's Picks sales.....ONE per person until they are gone...period!!!I hope the people who buy them to sell on EBAY have their teeth rot out. Mr. Pete-----------> aging hippie
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Ha! You know more about the contents of my e-mailbox than I do. Yes, it was there. As a subscriber, I don't have to worry about missing a show :D I wonder when the bubble will burst? Dead and Company influence definitely increases sales, and so too do the eBay flippers. The production numbers will continue to go up, but eventually interest is going to fall off - that's just the way of things. Then the sellouts will be back to taking a whole week or more. Imagine that, Dave's Picks in stock for a couple of weeks. The eBay flippers will be dumping them at less than cost. Probably around Dave's Picks 82. Mr. Pete, I almost agree with your sentiment on one per person, but not the part about people's teeth rotting out. They're just making a living, no crime in that. And besides, one per person wouldn't allow me to gift out Dave's Picks and other Dead shows every year. I go up to visit family every 4th of July bearing Grateful Dead CDs. I also collect the damn things like baseball cards. One set is not enough, I have to have a backup or two. I was actually very close to having a full backup set of Dave's Picks, but simply could not get my hands on brand new copies of 1 through 6. It would have cost like a million dollars. When Real Gone began releasing Road Trips, I grabbed those (even though I have the originals), just to have them. It's the collector in me. There's something about going to the mailbox and opening up that fresh new CD that bring some excitement to my day. Of course it's also making me go broke like a bad habit, so maybe they should limit them for my own self preservation. I don't think Rhino is ever going to put a limit on the number of subscriptions people can buy. I think they rely on them to bolster sales. The eBay flippers are sort of a free distribution network for them.
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That 2nd disc looks pretty dreamy!
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I'm shocked to see so much action on eBay regarding this release. I have to admit while I've NEVER heard this show I was always intrigued by the set list. The venue is unusual for a Dead show, it's the only time the Dead ever played in Idaho. Hopefully we'll see the release of another September 1983 show, 9/11/83 Manor Downs that second set Let It Grow is amazing. PLAY DEAD it's Tuesday.
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I’m really looking forward to this. I’ve only ever seen 80’s and 90 Dead so this will be a nice reminder of seeing the band in that period. Dave saw all of his shows and got on the bus in the late 80s and 90s, so it’s logical that the main obstacle to releasing more in this series is, as he says, because of the source problems and not through any lack of appreciation. That said, I think he’ll only release future 80s and 90s midway through the year and leave the last and first as whoppers from the 60s and 70s to entice new subs.
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"Read Rocks was a melting pot of East and the laid back, but no less enthusiastic West Coast heads; who enjoyed watching us gets our minds blown off the Rocks." You must have caught a buzz. From '78 to maybe '87, the bulk of the audience at the GD Rocks shows was locals -- Colorado heads. Sure, some coasters drifted thru, but 75 percent were locals. Glad you had a good time. You shoulda been there in July '78....
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I am a subscriber, so I am not worried about getting shut out of any Dave's Picks. But if everyone just bought a single copy for themselves more people could enjoy these releases at fair prices. WE shouldn't need a One per person rule coming from the top of rhino/warnerbros...Be considerate. If You want to get an extra for a friend that's really cool of you. If you buy as many copies as you can to store/flip you are hurting this community of heads. There's been a pattern here of grifting money right out of each others pockets. Worse still, some are preventing those who want a copy from hearing the remastered music. It seems we are all well aware of how limited these are yet don't care about our brothers/sisters who weren't fortunate enough to subscribe for whatever reason. The Elitist mentality is to not have sympathy for those not capable of saving $2 a week - we're somehow better/smarter/wizards of finance and it's not our fault that we live in a capitalist society - It's not 2 dollars a week, it's $125 or $99 for the early bird, there is a difference... It stinks I realize that you're entitled to do whatever you want. Supply/Demand, go right ahead and work your magic, I just think it's selfish. Just my two cents
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...is sadly becoming an elitist thing for collectors and/or Audiophile types. Thus the prices for Dave's Picks. etc. are constantly on the rise. And why these sell out in hour(s) now vs. days/weeks a few years ago. It is what it is, but the saving grace is that there is an endless supply of GoGD music one can enjoy free as the wind./2 cents.
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Hi jaydouble, on the video Dave says it is a cassette master. But he and Norman are enthused about the sound. Well worth watching this seaside chat, lots of good info on the selection process.
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Prices are actually going down on Ebay, DaP 24 & 25 have been selling for less than $40 within the last few days. Production numbers have gone up, so has the number of ppl wanting to flip them on Ebay, but demand is the same. Pretty sure #27 will be available at affordable prices on the secondary market very soon.
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Haven't had a chance to catch up on posts over the last couple of months and not too worried because I have a subscription. Great setlist and haven't listened to this one before. Looking forward to it. Appears it sold out as fast as the any of the other recent ones, so proof in the pudding that '80's releases sell out as fast as any other era. Nice and congrats! I'm all onboard if the next few picks venture into the latter half of the bands career. Absolutely no complaints what-so-ever about this one.
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In order to maximize profit it would make the most sense for a flipper to subscribe. Thus, I don’t think that the flippers can be blamed for fast ala carte sell outs, other than indirectly blamed because there are fewer ala carte’s available due to higher subscription numbers. Recall that Doc previously admitted to buying extra copies to flip so that his copy was essentially free. Does that violate cactus jack’s call for community? Doc didn’t think so, he said that he more than made up for it by distributing the non-commercial releases freely to anyone that asked. If you can’t afford to put 28¢ in the piggy bank every day to save up for the early bird subscription, then how can you justify dropping $40 on an ala carte purchase? I couldn’t afford to go to as many GD shows as I wanted to. But had I stopped smoking a carton of cigarettes every week and instead put that money in the bank I probably would have had the money I needed to attend more shows. Short term desires outweighed long term goals...... In the 90’s I knew a girl who had a small percentage of every paycheck direct deposited into a separate bank account for mail order tickets. Then every time that a tour was announced she always had the funds to do mail order. She thought ahead and was able to attend a lot of shows......
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It's the tail end of the potluck line, and I'm up to the brownies. There are five left, but eight people in line behind me. Personally, I would not put one on my plate, then stick one in my pocket. Nor would I purchase a second ticket to a concert that was selling out, just to have an unblemished ticket for my scrapbook. But that's just me, and to each his/her own, I guess. Looking at my GD notes, I see that I have absolutely LOVED 10/14/83 and 10/21/83, so I simply CANNOT wait for my copy of this release! Be kind, rewind. p.s. I feel bad, but I'm having trouble getting psyched for the Meet-Up this year. I already purchased this show on DVD, so I'm struggling to convince myself to pay again, when I can watch it any time with glorious sound (and (free) beer). Perhaps the other projects this year meant that there wasn't enough time to ready a show that hasn't been released?
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Looking forward grately to DaP27, though outside my sweet spot, can't just be an old phat who prefers anything from the first ten years, and listens only to the next five. Been dabbling this summer in some early to mid 80s, because it is still the GOGD and there is great stuff there. Troubled by the decline of Jerry's voice and other changes, stopped going to live shows after 1980. Missed a bunch of great music. My lenticular AotS came this morning, very cool, next up on the Victrola. Crank it up. So what about the violent thunderstorms and flash floods in this area today. Went to a solo concert last night in an extraordinary performance space in northern New Hamster, basically a large house concert, about 80 seats, sold out. Completely acoustic and completely world class. Hypnotic, irresistibly compelling, impossible to sit still. Martin plays tomorrow night at the Cabot, Vermont Town Hall, then goes home for rest of season, returns to the states this fall. His group will play Carnegie Hall NYC next April. Very very highly recommended, beyond amazing.... will transfix you. Thought you had heard great Irish trad music? Martin takes it to another level. He played several tunes straight, then variations: major to minor, changed keys, changed styles, played them inside out. Total virtuoso. Told us he liked the freedom of performing solo, lots of interaction with audience. We had a chat after the show, he tunes to A432, not A440, because he feels it sweetens the tone, closer to what violins were tuned to back in the (classical) days. He made mention of the blues guitarist who tuned down a half step, he was talking about Stevie Ray. Martin has six performances scheduled in the states this October, two East Coast, two mid, two California. Lots of examples on youtube. Next up, Gillian Welch Friday. Phil and friends in ten days on the Burlington waterfront park... then maybe DSO down on the NH /ME coast or up on the Canadian border at Jay Peak in two weeks or so....it might not be Dead&Company however good old Rob Eaton was essential to getting stuff we listen to every day back into the archives .... summer is good!
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Very jealous of you seeing Gillian Welch. Can’t remember the last time she came here to the U.K. - maybe soon...
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Many thanks on cassette master info. while I buy the sub, every year. I prefer to be surprised and not listen to DL seaside chat or do any advance track listing. It is really rare, for them to release some I don't have a copy of. I think I have something to complete sets and or whole shows, from about 1700+ show. thanks again
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