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    "The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

    And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

    Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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    ....not even gonna take Boise for a spin around the block? Time to take off the training wheels and ride. That's sarcasm btw. To each their own. But, really? Guess I'm in the minority that any Dead is better than no Dead. I won't be playing this every day for sure, but when the moment hits, it's right there. Those moments can catch one off guard if you're not careful. I would think why break up the numerical beauty that is Dave's lined up all in a wonderful row? I've been know to be a bit OCD, so maybe it's just me. I like me. And that's enough for me....oh. And UB40 was really fun. Have you heard of The Movement? My step daughter turned me into them a couple of hours ago. Good stuff.
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    thanks for that awesome pic...need to steal...Bob's slide playing has always driven me to the Donna edge...YAWWWWW!!!!
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    Butch, that my man is one hell of a good opinion. I could not have said it better. Last year, a kind soul sent Dave 24 to me free of charge. Don't ask why I did not buy the subscription last year, because there is no good answer. 80's Dead is not my cup of tea. I am returning the favor done for me a year ago. Please PM me if interested in 27. The cd is still in the original packaging. Please no one interested in re-sale. Just somebody who was at the wrong place at the wrong time; and missed out. Be kind, Sam T
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    Sounds pretty good for an 83
    I’ve heard way worse many times.For those who complain about the sound quality, how many hissy, muddy cassette recordings did you listen to before the doors of the vault were thrown wide open? Back when a single CD cost $20 (the time when I got on the bus) and there were no complete show releases - just compilations like Live Dead, Skull Fuck, Eur 72, Dead Set, Reckoning, I was happy to get a complete show recording, even if it was hissy and muddy. I spent many hours listening to low quality recordings on cassette because I was, and still am, addicted to Grateful Dead. These releases are a blessing!!!!! My music listening is >98% GD, ~1% JG, ~1% others. I need all the years available so that I can move around the eras and not burn myself out on a single year. I love all the years, warts and all, although I listen less to the very warty years, but there still are some good parts to those years. I think that a good model for Dave’s Picks is ~3:1 pre-80’s/post-80’s for the time being while we get the returned reels released. Mini-Boxes and regular Boxes of the later years sounds like a good plan. That way you can buy it or not, and it’s not part of the subscription. It’s time for a Bruce release. For those not happy with DaP27, put it up for sale, there are people who want it and will be happy to listen to it. Thanks Dave, Jeffrey, and crew for another great release that sounds so much better than the hissy, muddy cassettes that I cut my teeth on, and that made my non-Deadhead friends want to leave the room. Sitting on the couch, playing the CDs on an Onkyo 6-disc changer, Onkyo receiver, Onkyo sub woofer, Bose 301 speakers. Franklin’s just started. H/S/F sounds better than CD1, I can differentiate all the instruments, vocals not too loud. For CD1, some parts were clearer than others. The jam part of Big RR Blues seemed to have distinct separation of the instruments, while some other songs were a bit more blurred. One thing I noticed is that Bob’s guitar was not obscured by Jerry, but that sometimes Bob and Brent were playing similar tones and it all rolled into one.
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    I think Dave has to offer up something occasionally from the 80s, even if the sound is sub par. There are some Dead fans who want to hear it, that simple. I also think there's something to be said for representing all eras of the band. I got my copy and the sound isn't too good here. But I understand where people are coming from. If I was only able to hear one great 1972 show from an audio standpoint because that was all they had in the vault that sounded that good (like Veneta), I would definitely want something from 1972 that sounded like this 83 show. In other words sub par 83 is better than no 83 to some. I think Dave and Rhino know this and keep it flowing to appeal ti all parts of the market. I don't think we would ever get 4 in a year like this, and I am sure it's no accident that the three 80s shows in the series came as #s 3 & 4 in the year. In other words, they're not marketing an 80s show to sell the year's Dave's Picks subscription when they sell the subscriptions in January or whenever it is, they pick a more marketable show (1977, 1973, 1974, etc). I've never seen the band live, so there is no emotional ties to them for me with regard to concert memories. I simply want the best sounding best performances I can get. That's obviously not what we have here. I do like it better than the RFK 89 set, because I can't hear Brent too well here and I don't like the way he sounds when he's mixed in at the same level as the rest of the band. Not towards the end of his stint with the band anyway. I have listened to Dead set and it's not nearly as rough as the 89 / 90 era, and his keyboards don't sound intrusive like they do in the later era. Does Hornsby play on the 89 RFK set? I thought back when I came out somebody identified him as the one playing the chordal spacey synthesizers.
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    Hornsby does sit in at RFK '89....
    ....in fact, he helps create one of the best Man Smart, Woman Smarter I have ever heard! Accordian yes, synths no.
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    I've only done a cursory listen through of DP 27 and I have to agree the audio quality was somewhat less than I expected. My first thought was "muddy" and I would have expected better from the time period. Maybe it's because it's from a cassette master rather than reel? But I liked Brent back then and still do today.
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    "Brent has many issues"....
    ....don't we all? Lol
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    The sound quality is questionable with this one. The vocals are way too loud. It is good when the band is not singing. I wish there was a way for me to adjust the mix so the vocals are tuned down, way down. I think Dave should stay out of the 80's. Brent has many issues.
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    the 50th with that sneaky live show so good morning little school girl inspired to dl 2-11-69 never heard just dig dead
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"The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Cub - Definitely a fan of listening to music on a pair of nice floorstanding speakers. The speakers I am using (Klipsch RP-280F) are pretty sensitive so I find I get plenty of volume and clarity using just a decent receiver (Yamaha RX-A1060), but it seems like you have taken it quite a bit farther. Working with the budget that I had to spend and the consideration of how far I could go without a bad reaction from my wife, that was about as far as I felt I could take it at the time. Honestly pretty pleased she adjusted to the size of the floorstanding speakers in the living room.
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who's selling Dave's vol 1 for 500 dollars? hell that's generous. its always a thousand if not up to 2 thousand on ebay everytime I look.
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That's the kindest thing anyone has said to me today. Thanks also to the people who gave me China Rider suggestions. I wrote them all down on the kitchen blackboard. I haven't heard a bad one yet. 12/31/69 really surprised me. I thought I was against the extra drums, I guess from Mickey in those older ones, but that one is great. 10/20/74 from the Movie Soundtrack, duh, I've had that one and somehow never copied it to my ipod with the rest of the box set so its kind of like a bonus track now. 2/9/73 also caught me by surprise because I didn't think I was that big on spring 73 since I thought the one on DaP 16 was just ok. 12/6/73 yes, may as well call it 74. I also jumped around arcive.org. I noticed some of those have Jerry or Bobby, one or the other too low. That's one song you need to hear both guitars!
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You need to look at the other side of the transaction, under Sold Items; it sells in the $350-400 range. Still a lot of dough, but at this point it's achieved collectible status, only by virtue of being vol. 1Kinda' like the original issue of the Amazing Spider-Man #1...
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well, i'll just say this: the generosity of the Dead Heads is alive and well. and I myself have paid it forward as well...god that phrase is so fucking lame, I need to shower I feel dirty
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12/1/79 one day this gem from Pittsburgh will see the light of the day with a shiny new Normanize. Here's an idea why not release 11/1/79 on 11/1/18 & then for Volume 30 go with 12/1/79 with 11/30/79 2nd set as the bonus disc? Isn't that a splendid idea, DeadLand?
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I feel your vibe for a 79 show....yes 12/1/79 is a gemstone!! Check your PM
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I wouldn't say it achieved collector's status only as a result of being vol 1. It is a damn good show too, where the band and vocals are mistake free and the playing is energetic. I would put it in my top 5 1977 shows, up there with probably 2/26, 5/9, 5/17, and 10/29. But it does help that it's the first of the series and that it's been unavailable for 6 years.
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A powerful piece.. Michael Caine delivers a powerful performance in the movie too. ok.. back to playing dead.
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The Crimson, White, & Indigo DVD has the full show that they're running in the theaters August 1st. That's not a bad thing, but there must be some shows that they could put on the big screen this year, shows that haven't already been purchased by many of us. Hippychic--one of my favorite China->Riders is from 7/21/74, at the Hollywood Bowl. Great audience recordings of this date abound on Archive.org. Everyone please remember to donate to the Live Music Archive periodically.
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...if only for the sake of interesting conversations! #27 ---- Good ear to those who heard the Aud patch on Big Railroad Blues...I did not notice that on my first listen. But thats probably a good thing, being good quality and all. MUATM -- kinda weird they are showing something that is available on DVD, but I still think it will be fun to watch on the big screen with great sound. Hopefully they are not stingy with the volume...In the past, I've had to beg the cinema employees to TURN IT UP!!! But this still begs the question, are they running out of options for the Meetup? I doubt it...
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Hey Now,maybe I can help you out. I have a DP 27 and more into the early years of the dead, ill be willing to part ways with it so if interested and want to know more hook up with me. Later, Rocco
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I'm up at Lake Tahoe right now, and Phish has been in town on a two day run here this week. However, some of the Phish Phans seem to be Phouling the Phorest, leaving trash all over the place. https://www.laketahoenews.net/2018/07/south-lake-tahoe-cops-phish-fans-… C'mon Phishers, a little more respect, huh? Keep up a good rep for the jam bands.
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Keith Godchaux...thanks for all the wonderful music you transmitted through your fingertips. R.I.P., old friend.
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HEAR HEAR BOLO! The Dead never would have reached the heights they achieved without Keith, imo. He helped turn a straight-ahead psychedelic rock band into a classy, glorious-sounding, well rounded ragtime band that turned 3D when the sun hit it just right.... And for that I thank him. I'll have to listen to Ramble on Rose tonight to celebrate. What are some of the better Keith recordings? (i.e.: good shows where he's high in the mix.)
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So now I have to tell a joke: Q: What did the janitor say when he jumped out of the closet? A: Supplies! ar ar ar....
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4/20/835/13, 14, 15/83 6/18/83 6/20/83 6/22/83 9/2/83 9/6/83 9/10/83 9/11/83 9/24/83 10/11/83 10/14/83 10/15/83 10/21/83 10/31/83 yep, plenty o' goodies in 83, Dave. I attended 3/27/83...meh also attended 7/30 and 7/31/83...they were fun, memory-wise. I think that's the first time I heard Touch of Grey. I liked it immediately.
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So I am totally interested in Dave's 27 what would you be willing to part with it for?? Thanks MN dead loving momma
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resist Dave's 17 aka 7/19/74 and Keith's birthday show to boot.Enjoyed reading N.G.Meriwether's write-up again - gives the show context. Be sure to "gear up" for this one, for it is not so laid back. The pudding starts with Playin;.
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Speaking of Dave's 17, Im surprised it doesn't get much love, just like vol.15, i think its a awesome show.
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Actually it's 12/12/73 and thank you - never heard that show. Crazy-fun soundcheck setlist, a late 2nd set China>Rider that smokes! And a happy birthday Dicky Betts (maybe he hung backstage but didn't play? I checked the 12/12/ date and it was not an ABB double-bill - or maybe they were just going for an easy cheer from the Atlanta audience). And yes some nice Keith in there! Thanks (to you AND Charlie Miller!).
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Like JiminMD says, the best Dark Star is whichever one happens to be the most recent one I listened to. I like this from 2/2/70 on Dave's Picks 6 a lot but its too short so I put it on again. I don't remember this ever getting much hoopla before. Is it really that great or am I just in a happy mood? When Dave's 27 arrives I feel like I want to start with disc 2.
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BRAND NEW/SEALED/BONUS LISTED ON AMAZON @ WARNERMARKET............DAVE'S PICKS: VOLUME 22 SEALED w/Bonus...$29.95! HIT IT!
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It's been a while since I gave that one a spin, will have to change that. ..I've never met a Dark Star I didn't like.
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....they can fit in any musical category if you look at them right. Like the Boxilla '68 Greek one, which just cued up. Or the Miami '89 mindfuck thats on deck. Worth the ticket price alone. Everything else is icing.
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I love Dave's 6 2/2/70 and 12/21/69, featuring two magnificent Dark Stars, each very different. Veneta 8/27/72 is just amazing, a 30 minute one that breezes by on a lysergic wave of energy before winding up in El Paso sung by a freaked out Weir. One that it reminds me of in an odd way is 11/11/73 Winterland, this one covers a lot of ground from a fantastic jazz excursion to some nice melodic weirdness towards the end of the nearly 36 minutes into a Mind Left Body Jam in double time. Dave's 13 also at Winterland 2/24/74 is another fantastic venture into the realm of Dark Star. My last listen to Dave's 19 1/23/70, I really enjoyed that one, too, but it did come out of That's It For the Other One, which adds extra oomph from the jump. And a show we probably all want to come out 2/18/71 with the infamous Dark Star> Wharf Rat (debut)> Beautiful Jam> Dark Star. One Normanized Star I want to hear is 3/24/72 from Rockin' the Rhein bonus disc. One Dark Star I avoid is Dave's 9 5/14/74, that one gets a little too dissonant for my tastes and does it for so long. Every time I try it again thinking I'll get over it I don't. But there's many other awesome Stars to focus on. For latter day versions, 3/29/90 of course and 4/1/91 Greensboro.
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I don't have a favorite Dark Star. To complicate things.. I find my mood and willingness to invest in what is often at least a half hour song impacts what I think of it. This sucks a bit.. but without a little mood enhancing help, that's just the way it is. Plus, I'm pretty busy as are likely most of you. So I have learned not to judge or invest myself into the outcome... just let it be and when I am rewarded I try to simply enjoy the moment. This approach seems to work just fine. The last one I listened to? Happens to be 10/19/73. It's currently my favorite but tomorrow never knows. Imagine that.
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alvarhanso, very interesting you spoke highly of the DaP 19 Dark Star. I've never considered this one of the stronger ones, but I'm going to give it a re-listen right now, sans The Other One. I have a little bit of a mental block on 1970 dark stars. They seem to either be in a class of their own or sound exactly the same to me. I'm not saying that as a fact just an impression. You also spoke of the Rockin the Rhein bonus disc Dark Star. This one's in my top 10. I read about someone on the Steve Forum site not liking this one and could do nothing but a Scooby-Doo "whaaaat??" I hunted that bonus this down for years on eBay and then ended up putting on two of them in the same week thinking I wasn't going to win both auctions, but I did. Ended up trading the second one for the closing of winterland bonus disc and one other, I forget which. The February 2nd 1970 Dark Star is also one of my favorites, if not top 10 definitely top 15. This first 10 fill up very quickly. Jimbo thanks for the reminder on the 1019 Dark Star. I've been meaning to merge the Mind left body track that follows it with the actual Dark Star for some time now, but I always forget. I'm going to take care of that this morning. I figure, it do it on a few other dark stars, you know, include mind left body is part of the Dark Star. The real motivation is having the two pieces of music run contiguously on shuffle play. I'd like to start merging all of my China Riders as well. I'm on the fence about some of the other big ones. I merged all the dark stars with there medley tracks on Europe 72. I just keep them at the end of the tracklist in my digital music folder for each record. Definitely retirement activity, if that day ever comes.
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My two holy grail shows for DaP: 6/10/73 11/19/72 what I have will suffice for now apparently 11/19/72 is not in the vault (sad face) 6/10/73, on the other hand...
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Thanks for the heads up. I missed oout on this one and have been looking for a reasonably priced copy since!
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Help / slip/ Franklin - primo second set jam, sweet my brother and sisters! :)...then into eyes, after ‘ estimated profit ‘ just kidd’n :) Love it!
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I may be the lone voice of dissent...that Help on the Way is horrendous, so is the Slipknot riff; great ensuing jam though.
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Yo Cuz, you're not alone. The last '77 version is pretty bad to my ears, and the 80s versions seem mostly sloppy and lazy. Although I think the suite performances improved a lot by 1990, the June Winterland performance in '77 was, to my ears, the end of crisp and (as-if) well-rehearsed for that material. October '77: muscular and coked rising, agile and tight fading.
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PapaHooper, others......YOU'RE ALL WELCOME! CHECK OUT THE STANLEY MOUSE AND FRIENDS LITHOGRAPHS, TOO!
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Crippled but free, I was blind all the time I was learning to see.
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I have to say that as much of a Dark Star fanatic as I consider myself to be, I haven't heard all of them. I am definitely revisiting 10/19/73. I haven't listened to the show in a long time so it will be good to revisit it just for that reason alone. I will say that I often gravitate towards 8/27/72 as my favorite Dark Star, with 2/13/70 being close. I also like the 10/18/74 Dark Star especially because it comes out of Phil and Ned. Yet I need to revisit all of the vast 69, 70, 72, and 73 versions. I have a vacation coming up and I might have to make this a little project for myself. * I have a honorable mention: the 1/10/79 Dark Star is really good, actually so is the whole show. I am fairly confident this show is not in the vault so all I have heard are audience recordings. Still good though. As for Help>Slip>Franks my favorite version is from 10/19/76. The full video of the show is on YouTube so that is always a treat. They played this a lot in 76, but much mess in 77. I do agree that the 77 versions don’t sound as good as the 76 versions on the whole. Although I really like 5/22/77. As for the post 77, I think it is toss up. Interestingly I have found myself getting more into 1991 shows. The Bruce & Vince combo appeals to me. I picked up View from the Vault 2 which has a 2nd set opener of Help>Slip>Franks, and then Estimated > Dark Star following that. It is a great show and one I had never heard until I picked up it up a few weeks ago. Just the fact that it has all of that in the pre-drums sequence is really cool.
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Dark Star09/21/72 H-S-F 9/19/90
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Dark Stars, Help>Slip> Franklin's discussions are sweet. Its like a twofer and possibilities are rampant. As fate has it, I just listened to 2/15/73 yesterday - which has one of THE MOST accessible Dark Stars, I determined after my most recent-listen. I'm familiar with this, as one is with an old pair of Birks. Its comfy and groovy and familiar yet open to realms of PHIL and contains one of the most poignant, beautiful, and soulful intros into an early, inspired and very fun Eyes of the World...among others in a truly awesome show. Where and when is this one, Senior Norman et Lemeiux? https://archive.org/details/gd73-02-15.sbd.hall.1580.sbeok.shnf I love all Help Slip Franks to The Core. No exceptions. My favorites are the ones with the long jams in Help on the Way proper, then crazy slipknots; but of course an amazing up-tempo Franklin's could easily define a Triad....it is a Vehicle of Pure Joy in my book. Period. Happy Friday in Deadland. Sixtus P.S. Listening to this one linked below right now in my sunny Back Patioland via Sonos 'relisten' (best app to mirror The Entire GD Archive to BLAST ALL THROUGHOUT MY HOUSE WHEN IGGY IS GONE). This show though...It ROCKS. The Half Step is a must listen. As is the Bird Song, Victim (gasp!), and pretty much whole second set. Stir it Up, baby. I feel early '91 gets overlooked, prior to Brucey's formal arrival. I think Mortal Combat is the best video game ever. I disagree. I think Donkey Kong is the best video game ever. My lingering question...I keep hearing Bruce...i didnt think he joined until the end of March 91; but was he here this night? I didn't find an immediate answer after Googling, but I may have missed it in some comment or asterisk.. https://archive.org/details/gd1991-03-21.mtx.seamons.111877.flac16 P.P.S. -> KEITHFAN - A++ for spreadsheet-a-rama, man. holy moly it's a beautifully rendered Dark Star map over time...flux capacitor is ... Fluxing...
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Gotta jump back in here. Gratefulhan mentioned he hadn't heard them all (Dark Stars). Has anyone? I've heard all of the official releases, but certainly not all of the soundboards. I have a spreadsheet of Dark Stars on my wall at work, printed up landscape style, and the 1969 column runs right off the page (so I taped the rest of it from the next page - looks ridiculous). There are an assload of DS performances in '69, and the second biggest year is '68. I haven't heard nearly as many of those as are out there. That being said, I imagine they sound very similar. Here is how the numbers pan out: 1967: 1 1968: 34 1969: 66 1970: 21 1971: 12 1972: 31 1973: 18 1974: 7 If you want the spreadsheet with dates and colors, here's the link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1i2WC8iVKjn60HoKICZ6ygEkrIDV13SxD
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The 9/24/72 Dark Star (30 trips) has been getting HEAVY rotation in my cave the last few months. Lots of love has been given here to the 9/21/72 Star (DP36) but somehow people seem to overlook the 9/24/72 Star. As far as I can tell it's every bit as crispy as 9/21/72. 30 minutes of Lesh saturated bliss. (Oh, and Hippychic, it jams into an electrifying Philsoaked China-Rider) Thanks for the Martin Hayes tip dmcvt. I bought "Welcome Here Again" and have been listening to it all day. Really nice stuff, right up my alley. Have a good one folks!
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is 8-13-75 to my ears. Bob, Jerry, Billy and Phil have heard all the Dark Stars.
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