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    "The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

    And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

    Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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    This late summer '83 tour has long been my time capsule Dead. If I could travel back in time and do any single GD tour this would be it. Boise/Sawtooths to Park West/Wasatch to Red Rocks/Rockies to Santa Fe/Sangres camping and road tripping all along the way would have been a real hoot. I have an older cousin who first turned me on to the Dead with tapes, including Boise '83, and he was living in Park City when this tour blew through the Mtn West. He still talks about this tour with reverence, one of his first after leaving MN behind. There's a vid out there of the first set of the band at Park West, and it looks just like shows I still enjoy at State Bridge or Rancho....but with the goddamn Grateful Dead on stage! Phil in particular is a BEAST with his new Modulus and girlfriend front and center. (He devotes at least a couple pages of his autobio to this particular tour and period....the beginning of his renaissance.) Sooo I'm very psyched to have an official release of this one after diving in to another DLP sub despite misgivings. In fact this is my favorite Dave's release of the last few years hands down. Admittedly I'm biased for the aforementioned reasons, but I think the uniqueness and energy of this show standout despite some sound and era limitations. Frankly the peak 70s Dead releases from Dave over and over and over again have started to bore me despite their obvious musicality. I guess I like my Dead a little less predictable and rougher around the edges in order to really highlight the truly inspired moments. Like the Boise Big RxR Blues! My one suggestion for Lemieux on future early-to-mid 80s releases would be to stick to the matrix format of the Fox '80 release. It definitely serves the music and context better than a straight Healy SBD mix, and I know from my own listening that there is no lack of worthy AUD recordings on the LMA and elsewhere that I'm sure any taper would be willing to share for the greater GD good. Cheers to the Citizens of Boise and their Surrender to the Cause!
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    Every fool who ever did blow and made music thought they were a genius at the time, this proves they were not. Almost done with my first and last listen to make sure the discs (made in Mexico) don't skip. Then this piece is going on the shelf behind my bootleg copy of Brent's solo album. Looking forward to some good stuff come the PNW box, Go Hawks.
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    It's comical that people are arguing that DaP 27 is better than DaP 7. KF, alvahanso, you may prefer DaP 27 and for the sake of making a coherent point, I'll agree with you. But here we are, the three of us in our DaP 27 creek without a paddle (and Space brother with his pom poms cheering us on from land), but all of those people voted for a quarter of the songs on DaP 7. I'd like to say nay, but let's see, we are not talking votes in the 10 or even top 5 lol, it's 1st place, 2nd place, etc. Let's be reasonable gentlemen, we are in the minority. DP36 I don't understand your post. You said the sound isn't the problem, but half of the dissention is being cited for bad sound. And what do you mean when you say DaP 27 is about Brent? Are you saying people aren't truly unsatisfied with the sound but rather with Brent? Please explain. KF, PM me your email, I'll send the pic.
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    As I was deciding where to go in '73, I scanned Dick's Picks 1 and thought, hmmm, I never listen to this one, why did Dick choose this as numero uno? Solid HCS I know. There are a lot of great WRS now, but this was a novelty at the time. Truckin' I don't recall too well, but how much better could it be than '72? Probably none better. Anyway, I thought I would put on DP 14, then reach out to you guys for DP 1 impressions. And then I saw the postings from kyleharmon and Terrapin Moon with Truckin' and WRS. Maybe I should just listen to it. Alvarhanso, I basically said the same thing you did, I think you might be mixing my comments with Ace Freh...I mean Mind Left Body - awesome picture dude! Where was I - oh - DaP 7 has some highlights in my mind, and better than a ton of 1978 shows, but not as good as DaP 15. Love Donna on Scarlet, love the Fire and the let it burn, and can't think of a song more ruined by Bobby's slide than this FOTM performance. Mind Left Body has the bonie for it, but I have to admit, that's a lot of Gold and Silver on Heady. Some people are bigger fans than me for sure. Mind Left Body - I just googled Ace and can't find that pic - can you hook an Ace fan up?
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    Spacebrother and I agree on DaP 7 as weak. The Music Never Stopped is very good, but I don't recall anything else that stands out to me. Yes Jerry says "let it burn, let it burn, let it burn" in Fire, but there's nothing special to me about that Scarlet Fire musically. The novelty of the briefest of Stayin Alive teases does nothing for me either. And I like Werewolves of London as a song, but also a relative novelty. But, just to prevent the world from spinning on its axis, my points of divergence with Space would be that while this would rank below almost every other DaP for me, 27 and 20, and possibly 4 are all right there with it, if not below. The challenge though was for a 70s official release worse than 27, so obviously 20 doesn't meet that criteria; still 4 and 7 are my bottom of the barrel 70s releases. The most glaring issue with DaP 7 for me is Bob's slide "playing". More like the sound of 2 street cats making love while someone steps on their tails. But on DaP 27, 5+ years later, it ain't any better. And you don't have the Healy effects on vocals on DaP 7. Another place Space and I agree: DaP 15 from 2 days before is fantastic. Especially, the Deal and Wharf Rat. Jerry botches his first Wharf solo (or is slightly out of tune), but definitely makes up for it with a second go at it. Also, it's fairly ironic that my agreement is with Space and my disagreement is with KF, so this is like Elaine's trip to Bizarro World to continue the Seinfeld theme.
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    I remember that episode stoltzfus. Man that brings back memories. I think a lot has to do with what I listen to DaP 27 on, at least for me. It sounds much better in the car than on headphones to my ears. I also prefer this early 80s keyboard sound to the late eighties. I would say it's definitely growing on me. At least the parts I've been listening to, disc 2 mostly. I like the raunchy tone on Jerry's guitar, is that the Tiger?
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    Is this Box of Rain that I'm cranking from April 2nd 1973. I'm having a blast prepping for "The Box". It's been 73/74 Fetivus this week. I guess I should have posted this on the other page. Oh well what are we talking about here, Dave's Picks 7. That was my first Dave's Picks. I bought it after reading how good the music never stopped is. It's no joke folks. I don't remember much about the Big River and me and my uncle, but I much prefer those pre hiatus. The Scarlet fire is pretty solid, let it burn let it burn let it burn. It is a ripping Promised Land, even though the opening lyrics get missed or flubbed or something I forget which. Anyway I'm not sure how Dave's Picks 7 ends up in a worst of conversation but, I don't know how accurate that is. Definitely one of the better shows from 1978. I think it might even be in Rolling Stones top 20 shows. That being said, I think I also prefer the show from the 22nd which was Dave's Picks 15 that space mentioned. I think the first set of that show is almost flawless. Although it does have a couple pallets in a row that I'm not fond of. The second set is pretty solid too. I definitely don't have to fit over the equalizers much on this one either. I am in full babble mode how long has this been going on for? Feels like forever, what was in that stuff I smoked. Good luck hippie chick. Yours in coherence, KeithFan2112 P.S. This DaP 21 sounds unreal. I'm talking audio at the moment. If "The Box" sounds this good we going to get high high yes sir.
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"The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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No.. I meant Henry the VIII might not have been so ruthless, not that it would have been more tolerable. Still, curious when it arrived there. In the US, it seemed to come from immigrants, many Mexican in the early 20th century. It looks like England had it a bit earlier. I found this link to be useful. https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/xd7d8d/how-marijuana-came-the-united… Especially the following passage, "It [was] brought to the Americas by the Portuguese, who took it to Brazil, and again by the British, who took it to Jamaica. In both cases, it was used to pacify slaves." Interesting.. nobody seemed to notice in the US until the 1930's, hence the infamous propaganda piece Reefer Madness. One other add.. the hemp used to make rope will not get you high no matter how much you smoke. I don't think there is a correlation between the plantations that grew hemp with smoking for its cerebral effects. Smoking rope hemp won't do anything but give you a headache.
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5) GD 9/18/74 second set4) Orchestra Makassy - Agwaya 3,2,1) Clifford Jordan - Bearcat, Spellbound, Glass Bead Games
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1- DaP 172- Exile on main St. -- Rolling Stones 3- Relayer--Yes 4- Electric Warrior-- T Rex 5- What's Going On-- Marvin Gaye
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Well lately I only seem to play music in my car and even more lately I've been listening to audio books...I plug my old 250 gb iPod classic in and away we go...this past weekend I did an overnight burn run from home to Phoenix to see Jeff Beck play...what a show (free ticket to boot)...anyways coming home I gave a ride back to one of the people responsible for the freebie and hit shuffle mode...it took 73 songs to get home and it showed that it had 14,565 left to play...
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7.21.72 ~ then Somewhere near Salinas , Lord I let her slip away 7.21.84 ~ Don't tell me this town ain't got no heart 7.22.84 ~ You Know our Love Will Not Fade Away 8.29.83 ~ Just gotta poke around 8.31.83 ~ Turn on your Light, you won't regret it 9.4.83 ~ Just might get some sleep tonight
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8/6/71 Road Trips + DP 35 Hollywood Palladium 3/2/69 Fillmore West 1969 11/17/71 DaP 26 Albuquerque 10/19/73 DP 19 10/22/67 Anthem of the Moon (had to come up with a title for the live disc from AOTS 50th Anniversary)
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I was listening to to 30 days of dead 2013 this past weekend the alligator>caution and realized that was released in full in the 30 trips box 1967/11/10 shrine. Assuming those came from the same tapes, it is amazing what he was able to do to that recording.
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1. DaP 26 bonus2. 5-11-72 3. Stone Temple Pilots- Purple 4. DaP 17 5. DP 6
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Its a hoot. I have vague memories of bits of it being show at a Hawkwind concert back in the mid 70s. I always liked public information films, warning kids about the dangers of drugs, especially when they were made by adults who knew nothing about them. "Alice in Acidland" is a corker. Its a sort of soft porn film made in 1968, which doesn't have any actual dialogue. Instead there is an occasional voice over by some guy purporting to be a psychiatrist, and some light jazz music. Its about this girl who is led astray by some "swingers". It starts off in black and white, but when the acid takes effect, it goes into colour, as all sorts on monsters loom out of the darkness. If memory serves me well, she ends up in an asylum, in a straightjacket. Bummer.
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Now when I am talking out loud to myself people just think I'm having a phone conversation. A very important phone conversation! It all goes back to your elementary school really. Right? Dang! California done legalized some stanky shit. This isn't your Father's parsley flakes! What's this got to do with the Dead? I'm going to go eat some Cherry Garcia.
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The vinyl sounds awesome
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Yeah, long time fav. Old buddy and tproomate turned me on in early 80s. Think I have vynle? Was able to pick up CD a few years ago. On regular play of playlist loop. Phil pre Genesis I believe...so yeah, good sheeet, need to get more...
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Just saw your post that you got the Dark Star spreadsheet, nice. Yeah, I should do timings as well. The one place it would get tricky is if there are multiple parts to it.
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Brand X was Phil Collins after Peter Gabriel had left Genesis. Phil joined Genesis in 1970.I’m not familiar with their records, but I recognize the cover of Moroccan Roll from my book of Hipgnoss artwork- same folks who designed the iconic Floyd albums of the 70s.
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They were an interesting project. Moroccan Roll came out in 1977. I'm pretty sure I bought most if not all of their albums. Captivated me for about half a year. It was mostly Phil's band so the drum tracks are tight. I sort of assimilate them to a b+ version of some of the Allen Holdsworth/Bill Bruford stuff that came out about that time (which says a lot). Many of the John McLaughlin projects from the 1970's had a similar feel. Great stuff.. but some sounds a bit out of context now, and you plug in Blues For Allah and it feels as if it could have been written yesterday. Edit: I guess the exception would be the song Blues for Allah. That's one of those.. you had to be there songs.
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....lost count after three. I then confused Brand X with King's X. It happens.
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From Bull Moose the other day came a box containing Sgt. Pepper's 2CD Anniversary Set from last year, the new Buffalo Springfield box with the first two albums in MONO(!), and the new "lost" Coltrane album (all on CD). The next day came Anthem (AMAZING live show!!) and some Corelli violin sonatas, and then today came Bootleg Vol. 6 of Miles with Trane, and Joni Mitchell's first album, which for some unknown reason I had never purchased, even though I have and love most of her stuff. Last Five: Dvorak: Symphony #1 (Kertesz) Anthem of the Sun Ali Farka Toure with Ry Cooder--Talking Timbuktu JGB--After Midnight (2/28/80) Dave's Picks Vol. 22 (12/6-7/71) This new young man at the coffee shop had a GD bear tattoo on his arm, so I started asking him about his interest in the Dead. I showed him the latest JGB CDs (I was in the drive-through, in my vehicle, which is always full of CDs), and he said that he didn't really know about Garcia's solo stuff. So I went home and burned him the 2/28/80 show on CDs. He seemed pleased when I walked in later that same day and gave the discs to him. After I got home I thought, "Does a guy in his early 20s even HAVE a CD player any longer?" p.s My first name is John, and I named one of my fantasy baseball teams "John's Coal Trains."
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Last five: Walter Becker--Circus Money Coltrain--A Love Supreme the Complete Masters GD--11-11-73 GD--4-8-72 David Crosby--If I Could Only Remember My Name
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Never heard of them, and I'm into Genesis a little bit, particularly the Gabriel era. Was surprised to hear Phil was involved, but then again the man was on everything in the 80s - (even played on "In The Mood" by Robert Plant - talk about a great song to spark up to).
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Dead & Co 7/7/2016 Dead & Co 7/7/2016 Dave's Picks 2012 bonus disc 7/29/74 VFTV IV 7/24 & 26/87 Dylan & The Dead Really digging some '87 Dead. Red Rocks '87 box please..... Speaking of Brand X, I caught them in Chicago at Progtoberfest at Reggies in Chicago recently. First time I had heard them and was impressed. Cool band. Excited for this '83 Dave's Pick. Interesting how in the video Dave mentioned the criteria for what he looks for to release, yet stated that he was short of calling them un-releasable from the '81 to '87 time frame. If it's from this era and Dave releases it, I'll gladly buy it. Keep 'em coming.
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Just got mine too! Idaho will soon be spinning on the east coast!
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I feel strongly that whenever listening to an audience recording, one should wear headphones. When you listen to a recording through speakers in a room, you are creating a listening environment and each system/room sounds different based on the size of the room, echo (or lack thereof if the room is carpeted and has heavy upholstered furniture). A studio recording is perfect for this. However, when listening to an audience recording, there already is a speaker>room dynamic in the recording. If you listen to an audience recording through speakers, you are effectively "adding a generation" to that recording. Your ears are hearing two listening environments simultaneously, and the added environment only muddies the dynamics. That's my theory anyway. I'm not a well-read audiophile, but this is something I have noticed - audience recordings sound better through headphones. Would love input from some who actually knows what they're talking about.
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I'm listening to 9-4-83 and it sounds great. Should bode well for the upcoming pick. The drums on this cassette master souns pretty good. Hopefully the sound is similar (and even better) on the Dave're release. Looking forward to a great show. It would have been nice to get a 'Hell in a Bucket' or a 'My Brother Esau' or an 'A Touch of Grey' or an 'Althea'. But if the playing and the recording are up to snuff i'll be happy.
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Yeah, I checked and my Deadbase 50 and it has some of the timings, but certainly not all. There are just a lot of Dark Stars from 68 to 79, which hey, is a good thing right? Now one of my previous projects was to create a list of shows that involved combinations of multiple releases. A great example is the 8/6/71 show you were discussing on Pacific Northwest box set page. Anyway I accomplished that task so I need another now. I think it be would fun and appreciated by those that comment here if I could pull off a complete Dark Star timings list. I figure this is a low-risk venture. I mean what is the worst that can happen? I get to listen to a lot of Dark Stars. Even if I don't complete the list I will still have one hell of ride. If you decide to take on this on this task as well, let me know. Combined efforts would be fun. Plus t wouldn't be bad to compare notes. Like I mentioned before I have a weeks vacation coming up and due to many factors it will be more of a stay-cation than any kind of adventure to parts unknown. Might be good to start this project off then. I can see using this time to escape the stress, against, and rigors of work and let a few Dark Stars take me elsewhere.
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Thin I love your approach to this subject. I am going to throw on the ole Bowers and Wilkins and test that theory. I think that is interesting about a loss in generation. Here is one for you. I am looking into a Digital Audio Processor for the car. This will do a lot of things like balance that .10 of a second that your left ear is hearing before your right ear is because your left ear is closer to the speaker than your right ear...that's if your driving and opposite if you are the passenger. I know my head wants to explode too. But I am looking forward to testing your theory out....any suggestions on a show to tryout out on??
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Speed of sound = 343 meters/second Sound travels 34.3 meters in 0.10 second If it takes sound 0.10 seconds to get to your ear from the passenger side speaker, you have a giant car ;)
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six-pack. ~GD 1971-04-08 Boston (thanks KF!) ~Brent & Bobby 1988-04-26 San Rafael (different sets)(thanks Matt) ~Tom Waits 1977-10-25 Agora Theater~Cleveland,Ohio (thanks Matt) ~Chris Cornell 2006-09-07 Stockholm,Sweden (thanks Matt) ~GD 1983-06-20 Jerryweather~Columbia,MD. (thanks again Jim!) ~GD 1980-05-11 Portland,Maine (thanks Matt) ...ok,last one.really.then I gotta go home. Diga Rhythm Band 1975-05-30 Golden Gate Park (again,thanks Matt!) :o)
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they dick around for a while...be patient. :o)
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That was alright! Most bands featuring electric guitars sound a bit like someone else. But Sonic Youth didn't.
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Yup - I think you've jumped the shark on sound theory with the whole "getting both ears in perfect 'center' with the speakers of your car" thing. But hey, some people think I'm nuts when I talk about sound stuff. My gut tells me if Owsley aka "Bear" heard you were doing that, he'd say "your ears automatically correct for that, and it's barely a timing issue given your head is only 1 1/2 feet off center, and sound travels.... fast". Take that money you were gonna blow on that and send it to me.... I have better uses for it. To say my headphones theory differently: "Audience recordings already are overloaded with natural reverb/echo - that's the inherent flaw in any audience recording - it's not close-mic'd. Instead the mic tends to be 30-100 feet away from the actual speakers. Playing the recording through speakers just adds even MORE room "echo" to the already over-reverb'ed recording."
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Charlie3 - Maybe it's more of a case of kevinbrandon having a really huge head separating his two ears (necessitating that giant car). Must make for a far out listening experience. I think this is covered somewhere in Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. . .
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Hopefully taken as good clean fun, not piling on.. but I noticed a couple strange vehicles driving around town just yesterday blasting some smoking Grateful Dead. It was hard to get a good view, but I'm pretty sure it was Kevin in his jeep.
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The theory I was told and .10 was not the exact. Ok I should have checked my facts on the exact fraction of the second. Yes I thought it was a little silly myself when I was reading that. Actually my noggin is pretty small it's the damn nose. I do appreciate the ribbing it was something I saw on youtube. BTW love the jeep pic...Cheers For those looking to mix it up this afternoon take out the 1966 from TTATS and give In the Midnite Hour a twirl
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