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    Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

    WHAT'S INSIDE:
    6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
    • 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
    • 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
    Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
    Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
    Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
    Photos by Richie Pechner
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

    Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

    "We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

    Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

    The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

    For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

    PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

    Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

    Get it while you can.

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  • Vguy72
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    10.1.94's Space into Last Time....
    ....fuckin' Space Invaders video game effects. Liam would be proud. Pissed off of course, but proud....edit. No weed in the wooden box. :( One can't fail for trying.
  • Angry Jack Straw
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    Mine arrived today. Scheduled for Monday, but the UPS truck pulled up around 5:00. Odd for a Saturday. I saw the driver coming up the driveway with a big box in hand so I met him at the door. "I wasn't expecting this until Monday." So you are why I am working today he responded, clearly not happy. "Do you have any pot you can sell me? It's the Grateful Dead." He turns and walks away in disgust. Those who got the download are missing out on a nice box. Even the kids thought it was awesome. Vguy, the number is in a classy little box between the CDs. Similar to a small jewelry box or some place to hide a key. It comes with a cool passage, distinct in Native American undertones. Very well done. I'm holding off on listening until tomorrow. Watching some old episodes of Parts Unknown. Tony was no Jerry, but he was a awesome dude nonetheless. 10/1/94 is the only show from TTATS that I have listened to past 87. Even then I have only listened to the So Many Roads. I have said many times, fall 94 was the dead cat bounce tour. Unexpectedly good.
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  • LedDed
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    ...by the way, has anyone figured out yet who "they" are? The grays? The man? The IRS? At any rate, or so I've heard, "they" say that doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity. Hell, I think it's just being a stone-cold gambler. I buy lottery tickets every drawing, using the same numbers, and goddamn it I'm going to hit big one of these decades. Just you wait and see. I really wish my box had arrived today. Alas, it is not to be and I don't know if UPS delivers on Sunday. I've had those non-descript amazon white vans drop stuff on Sunday though, and that feels like Christmas. Although most of my dead.net WEA product arrives via the Good Ol' USPS, and on our street the mail goes into those group box kiosks. You got your box, and on a special day there will be a key waiting inside for one of the parcel boxes (few, and larger). You're always hoping for a key, and when you see it your heart skips a beat. My theory is that the ubiquitous amazon white vans (Sprinters and the like, windowless) are not adorned with "amazon" graphics for several reasons. For one, they'd attract looters and thieves. For another, we'll all get desensitized to them, and one of these times when one pulls up, you'll run out arms wide ready to embrace yet another Grateful Dead offering, and they'll (it's, "them" again) leap out and pull a hood over your head and throw you in the back. When you wake up, tied to a chair in a cold room with only a single, bare light bulb hanging above you, you'll hope like hell Liam Neeson is about to break in and save your ass. \m/
  • MDJim
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    I have to laugh at these posts.. yesterday a friend of mine sent me an email he got from one of his friends. It's long.. names omitted to protect the guilty. It was written a year or so ago.. so I'm sure it's floated around a bunch. To the author, I hope it's ok to share. The title was Next Level Obsession. ______________________________________________ I love Deadheads with OCD. Not my post but I appreciate the work. Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:49 pm #1 When I was in high school, there was a girl who would always ask me if I had acquired any new Losers of the “sweet Suzy” variety. And so whenever I received a new batch of tapes from some remote part of the country, I’d note any Losers with the “sweet Suzy” verse and then surprise her with one at the next gathering of our mutual group of friends. These gatherings were almost always centrally concerned with new tape acquisitions or new knowledge regarding the Dead. We were a group obsessed with the band and everything swimming through the vast universe of the band, including apparently any Losers with the “sweet Suzy” line. My memory is foggy when it comes to my findings of the “sweet Suzy” Losers, except one distinct time in which I can remember telling her, “Hey, Shannon, I found a ‘sweet Suzy’ for you.” I don’t know which show it was , but I’m pretty certain it was a 1971 Loser. What lives in my memory is precisely where we were and me saying those exact words to her. It must’ve been a revelatory moment for me regarding the rarity of the “sweet Suzy” Losers, for I have never forgotten that moment after 20+ years. Fast forward to a few months ago, in June of 2017, when I found myself thinking of those great tape-trading days of high school, the discoveries, the euphoria of acquiring a new batch of tapes. And for some reason my mind turned to the “sweet Suzy” versions of Loser, and how I would search out copies of this song without a handy Deadbase at my fingertips, nor a more convenient “etree mobile” app which allowed me to effortlessly flip through shows and fast forward to the two particular instances in which “sweet Suzy” is sung with the simply movement of a finger across my iPhone. Wow, how times have changed with regard to searching for a particular part of a song. So a few months ago I decided to complete the project once and for all. I needed to know when “sweet Suzy” died, and I kind of wanted to arrive at a reason for her death. Sadly, I found her apparent death on October 20th, 1974, then realized she had risen from the dead on January 10th, 1979, only to be buried once again for eternity. Even more tragic is the unknown reason for her death. What I did find, however, is an obscure protraction of her death. Think about all the hours I’ve logged listening to “Last fair deal in the country, sweet Suzy!” and the amount of accumulated thoughts about Suzy, what she must’ve looked like to Hunter and Jerry, what she must’ve meant to Jerry on the nights that he sung her into the song with such love and tenderness and longing, what she must have meant to him on the nights that he abandoned her and left the audience singing her in their own empty words, and what he must’ve thought on January 10th, 1979 when he resurrected her one last time. What drove him to do it? The Dead performed Loser 346 times. Only a few of these shows do we not have the recording. I tally 88 known Losers that include the “sweet Suzy” or just “Suzy” line. Remarkably, of the 54 Losers performed in 1971, only one show did not feature the “sweet Suzy” line. That show is 7/2/71 at the Fillmore West, oddly the last show at that venue. The very first Loser performed on 2/18/71 at Port Chester features a “sweet Suzy” in the first slot and a rare “Suzy”-only in the second slot. All three “Suzy”-only versions were sung in the second slot of the song in 1971, but of the three remaining “Suzy”-only versions in 1972 and 1973, Jerry sang it in the first slot of the song. The first show in which Jerry sings “sweet Suzy” in only one of the two slots is the 22nd performance of Loser on 4/21/71 in Providence, Rhode Island, and it appears in the second slot. There are no other shows or patterns in 1971 of note except to say that toward the middle of the year, immediately following the 7/2/71 Fillmore West show, Jerry starts to exclude the “sweet Suzy” line in one of the two slots more frequently. Between 2/18/71 and 5/30/71, Jerry performs Loser 31 times, and he is fairly regular with the “sweet Suzy” line in all of the Loser versions, singing it both times in all but 2 of the 31 times. But once 7/2/71 hits, the remaining 23 performances of the song are variable when it comes to the singing of the line. Between 7/2/71 and 12/31/71, Jerry sings the line twice during the song only 13 of the 23 times. What this means is that Jerry started the slow death of “sweet Suzy” officially on 4/21/71, booted her from the song for the first time altogether on 7/2/71, and then proceeded to ween her from the song thereafter. 1972 sees the demise of Suzy even more. Of the 39 times Loser is played in 1972, only 4 times does Jerry sing “sweet Suzy” in both slots of the song. 13 times he abandons “sweet Suzy” entirely. 1973 isn’t any better. 25 performances, 7 “sweet Suzy” lines, and none of those 7 times does Jerry sing the line in both slots of the song. 1974 saw “sweet Suzy” virtually die. Of the 10 times Loser is performed (remember, there were only 40 shows this year), only 3 times does “sweet Suzy” make her appearance, the last being on 10/20/74 at Winterland, and it’s sung in the second slot of the song. I fitting farewell to the Grateful Dead at the time and to sweet Suzy, whoever she was. And that is all we know of the mysterious girl called Suzy in the song Loser. For the next 4 years and 45 performances of Loser, not a trace of “sweet Suzy” is found – that is, until the first show of 1979, in Uniondale, New York, on January 10th. Making her appearance one more time – and her last time – was “sweet Suzy” in the first slot of the song. It’s so brief and nondescript. If you blink, you miss it in the recording. There’s no emphasis, no powerful resurgence, no eruption from the audience. It comes and goes in a second and a half. And then it vanishes. Ghostlike. Forever. I knew I had never heard a “sweet Suzy” in the 1980s or 1990s, but I wanted to be sure, and so I listened to all the “Last fair deal in the country….” verses (two per song) of all 169 remaining performances. I sometimes dreamed that I’d find one, hidden within a show that was not on many popular radars. I held out hope that there was a version of the song in the post-Brent era that escaped our listening ears because it was a Vince show. No. I sometimes imagined I heard it because I was listening so hard for it. I truly wanted it to be there. I wanted so badly for Jerry to sing those two words again; I’d even take a delayed and whispered “Suzy.” Alas, it wasn’t going to happen. I have thought about so much along the way. I thought how crazy I am for doing this. I thought how empty this project is. I thought how meaningless and stupid and utterly ridiculous….In short, I thought I had perhaps come to an end of sorts with the band. When I began the journey, I actually was listening to 3/24/73 Spectrum and noticed that Jerry had only sung the “sweet Suzy” line in the second slot. And so I wanted to know what other shows in the March/April ’73 period did this. And then I wanted to know all of 1973. And then I decided I’d do all of the Losers and tally them all up. I searched high and low on the Internet to see if someone had already done this. I found no one. But, above all, I felt like I had to do this. I was reminded of my high school years, and always bringing Shannon new “sweet Suzy” Losers. I simply felt it was my calling to know them all. So, Shannon, if you’re out there, and happen to stumble across this, here are all your “sweet Suzy” and “Suzy”-only Losers. Enjoy… Below are the years and dates in which “sweet Suzy” or just “Suzy” appear. After the date, you’ll see a “1” or “2” or “none,” indicating for that particular show where “sweet Suzy” is sung, “1” being the first slot and “2” being the second slot of the song. “None” obviously means neither slot of the song featured this line. If you see a “Suzy” next to either the “1” or “2,” then that means just the rare “Suzy” was sung. For the inaugural Loser on 2/18, I like that “sweet Suzy” was sung in the first slot and just “Suzy” was sung in the second slot. There are a few shows in which we do not have the recording of Loser: 10/21/72, 11/18/72, 9/12/73 (this one is unclear as to whether the song was player there at all, but I kept it in anyway), 9/28/77, and 2/6/79. Other than those, they’re all here. The penultimate note: the Loser from 5/11/78 does not feature a “sweet Suzy” but rather a Jerry “Yeeeeaaaahhh Arrrrgghhhh” which is the only one of its kind. The ultimate note: I have retained the spelling of “Suzy” as this is how it appears in Hunter’s Box of Rain. 1971 (53) 02/18 1 2 "Suzy" 02/19 1 2 02/20 1 2 02/21 1 2 02/23 1 2 02/24 1 2 03/03 1 2 03/14 1 2 "Suzy" 03/18 1 2 03/20 1 2 03/21 1 2 03/24 1 2 04/04 1 2 04/05 1 2 04/06 1 2 04/07 1 2 04/08 1 2 04/12 1 2 04/13 1 2 04/17 1 2 04/18 1 2 04/21 2 04/22 1 2 04/24 1 2 04/25 1 2 04/26 1 2 04/27 1 2 04/28 1 04/29 1 2 05/29 1 2 05/30 1 2 07/02 none 07/31 1 08/05 1 08/06 1 08/14 2 "Suzy" 08/23 1 2 08/24 1 2 08/26 1 10/21 1 2 10/23 1 10/26 1 2 10/29 1 2 10/30 1 2 10/31 1 2 11/06 2 11/07 1 2 11/12 1 2 11/14 1 11/15 1 2 12/06 1 2 12/10 2 12/14 1 2 12/31 1 1972 (24) 01/02 1 2 03/21 2 03/22 none 03/26 1 "Suzy" 2 03/27 1 04/07 1 04/14 1 04/16 1 2 04/24 1 04/26 1 04/29 none 05/10 none 05/13 2 05/26 1 06/17 2 07/18 1 "Suzy" 07/21 1 07/25 none 08/20 1 08/22 1 08/25 2 09/03 none 09/09 none 09/15 none 09/17 none 09/21 2 09/24 2 09/28 none 09/30 2 10/09 1 10/18 1 10/21 ????? 10/23 2 10/27 1 2 11/14 none 11/18 ????? 11/22 none 12/11 none 12/15 none 1973 (7) 02/21 none 02/26 2 03/16 2 03/21 none 03/24 2 03/28 none 05/13 none 05/20 none 05/26 none 06/09 1 06/26 1 07/31 none 09/07 none 09/11 none 09/12 ?????? 09/17 none 09/20 none 09/26 1 "Suzy" 10/21 none 10/27 none 10/29 none 11/10 2 11/23 none 11/30 none 12/06 none 1974 (3) 02/24 none 05/14 1 06/18 1 06/30 none 07/25 none 08/04 none 09/10 none 09/14 none 10/17 none 10/20 2 1975 None 1976 None 1977 None 09/28 ????? 1978 None 05/11 "Yeaaah arrrgghh" 1979 (1) 01/10 1 02/06 ????? 1980 - 1995 None Thanks, xxxxx
  • Vguy72
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    ....the midi flute Garcia plays is beautiful. Then it goes into the mutron tone we all know, then back into a mutron/flute thing. Jerry plays two different tones at once. Pretty neat and pretty incredible. Miss you. I can see how someone's first show being this one could hook you. God bless the GOGD.
  • Vguy72
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    ....I don't know what you're talking about LedDed. Now exuse me while I rearrange my bookshelves. It's gotta be just exactly perfect. It's for the grater good.
  • LedDed
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    "Wait a minute kids while we get this just exactly perfect..."
    I love it when Bob would say that. I wonder if Deadbase lists how many times he spit that out from the stage. It was tongue in cheek, and endearing. This was a raggedy bunch folks. This music was only ever perfect in it's glorious humanness, flaws and warts and all. I play lots of guitar. There's a thing called, "relicing," where you can pay the Fender Custom Shop or some guy in his garage to scuff up your brand-new guitar and make it look old. Like some clown who goes and buys "distressed" jeans at the mall. Please... my guitars get beat up because I play the hell out of them, and except for my Gibsons (only because the string tension against the angled headstock can snap the neck if they fall over), I don't give a shit if one of the kids knocks it off the couch or a drink spills on it or whatever. I love that stuff. Gives an item character. I will no longer even pick up certain people's guitars. I feel they would experience a cardiac event if my nails (I play with a heavy hand) should leave microscopic scratches in the finish. Museum pieces all, never to be - gasp! - really played or used as the medium of expression they were designed for. Just ask the collectors who keep these "investments" in humidors, to be looked at only, and just don't you dare stare too hard in any one place for very long. I bought a brand-new truck in 2002. For months, I would park at the edge of the lot and struggle in vain to keep it perfect. Once I finally let that shit go, it was a tremendous relief. My $100 Jimmy Page coffee table book arrived damaged from UPS, they'd crushed the box and there's about a 1" divot on the cover. So what? Now when my friends thumb through it I don't cringe if they haven't washed their hands. I understand paying money for something and appreciating it being in new condition, but some of this borders on the obsessive and misses the point. Warren Zevon was just like that, with the T-shirts. Joey Ramone. It's OCD and a few other insanities rolled into one. I respect that we are different, and I don't know if I find these gripes with product minutiae annoying or just hysterical... but I guess with the Dead fanbase, you get that in all kinds of ways. One of my discs does have a flaw, there's like a metallic shriek/white noise in some song. Maybe more than one. I wouldn't know which, because with many thousands of songs I just skip ahead to the next one. I can't be bothered enough to care. It's all about the music...
  • LedDed
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    First world problems... yawn
    This morning I got up and put on what I thought was a perfectly crisp, clean white T-shirt. Imagine my horror upon discovering a stray eyelash had fallen onto the left shoulder, and to top it off a tiny wrinkle was discovered below the right underarm. Then, at lunch my Big Mac arrived shoddily assembled. The cheese was unevenly melted and not at all centered on the patty! And the pickles had been hastily thrown on and I think there may have even been a few brown sesame seeds atop the bun.
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    I got this show in a tape trade about 30 years ago (Portland 1974), and it was incomplete, missing 6 or 7 songs. A few years ago, the complete show started circulating and we all discovered that those tracks were omitted because the vocals were seriously low and I guess someone thought they'd do us all a favor and leave them out. The songs that were left out correspond almost exactly to the songs you mentioned. Sounds to me like they did everything they possibly could to match them up with the sound of the rest of the show. It'll never be perfect, but they did a hell of a job and it's nice to hear it sounding so much better. There's just always shit you can't fix when you're working with two-track tapes.
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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

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If you remove Veneta 8/27/72 and Houston 11/18/72 from contention, is there a better Playing in the Band than Berkeley 8/25/72? Pick my face up off of the floor.
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Hendixfreak and ? Aaaaaa I think Dmcvt?Throw us some luv bra’s! Hendrixfreak if you have summer 73 tales, since where getting 73 shows soon....I bet most would dig it, even if they have heard before?
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He said, "I gotta go, but my friends can stick around." The last public words I believe he spoke. What a great song. The lyrics (for me at least) have a profound meaning. I think the meaning of the song is the best we can do is often just below the mark where it needs to be for our lives to be alright. But we do the best we can nonetheless. What other choice do we have. http://songmeanings.com/songs/view/106061/
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Dick Latvala said 11-18-72 and 5-26-93 where the two best Playing In the Bands. You mentioned the former and I attended the latter (and it was amazing), so that's a pretty good place to start. I'll have to give the Dave's #24 version another spin. A few other PITB's of note: 6-8-74 - A melty day in Oakland 8-6-74 - 40 minute Playin'->Scarlet->Playin' 5-21-74 - Got an epic one coming with the Pacific NW box! 7-29-88 - Crazy version at Laguna Seca - Included on the So Many Roads compilation
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Playin>Drums>Dark Star>Morning Dew>Playin this amazing sequence opened the 2nd set on 11/18/72 one word- AMAZING!!!!!!!!
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....I hear there's a really, really good one from Portland in this upcoming box. There was a great one in Monterey '88. I missed that Friday show. The talk of the lot the following day was that Playin'.
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8/27/72 has to be the grandaddy of them all for all it's acid and sunshine soaked greatness. 5/26/72 was the night the song was truly born 4/22/77 is really fun as it might be the last first set blow out stand alone Playin', and the jam is fast, spacy and tight with a hint of the Tiger Finally, the Playin' reprise from 5/19/77 is something totally to behold. Powerful. Personally, Playins from 72-74 are some of my favorite jams from the bands entire career. With that being said, I feel like the song never really found it's groove, post hiatus. Sure there were some epic jams, but I always preferred the versions that stood alone and didn't drift off into something else. When they'd start sneaking back towards the finale and then finally explode--that is always a huge payoff for me.
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As I listened to the sounboard shows i was stunned by the consistency of the playing in these two little tours, for "small" songs and jams.I expect to find a place for this box in the library between the Europe 72 tour and Get shown the light, not less.Yes here are any of the best PITBand, and some good versions of the new songs from Mars Hotel. I feel sad about misssing the 30 trips Boxset wich was then out of Budget...Now one more good reason for September. Don't miss this one if you can afford!
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It's still fun to discuss the Summer Jam '73 event/happening at Watkins Glen New York here on this page, but here is another site for those interested in another opinion: www.glenphotos.com/summerjam/ Unfortunately, the GD's portion of the main event falls a little flat for The-Powers-That-Be and many others, so it maybe a long time until it is officially released. However, the unannounced (but scheduled by the event organizers) soundcheck mini-show on 7/27 was up-to-par.
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The best playing is 11-18-72. This is the stuff legends are made of. This ( and I’ve said this before) is why Jerry Garcia is the greatest musician of them all. “He’s the very spirit personified of whatever is muddy river country at it’s core and screams up into the spheres. He really had no equal” (Bob Dylan at Jerry’s eulogy)
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Jim that’s a great why to describe the weight. I totally agree, what a great song. RIP Brent.
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Cool video Jim. I agree that's a good way to interpret the song. It's a deep, opaque song that could mean a lot of things to different people. Think about this. The Weight was the last song Brent played before he died of a drug overdose. Furthermore, he sang the verse about Carmen and the devil, walking side by side. It's Carmen who says to the narrator "I gotta go, but my friend can stick around." That's 'friend', singular, referring to the devil. What does the devil represent? Temptation, of course. Temptation, symbolized by the devil, is part of The Weight that we all bear as we go along about our lives. It always sticks around. So the man closes a show singing a verse about the ever present burden of temptation which weighs upon us. Then dies of an overdose 3 days later. William Faulkner couldn't have made up a more symbolic ending to a story.
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I’m in....stories and pictures of 73...please and thank you!
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Hey now hendrixfreak. I do recall your Watkins Glen post a while back (and let's not start counting growth rings)! I haven't figured out how to search for years-ago posts, so would love to read yours again. I promise to save it this time. dmcvt's post last week is what got me started on this. dmcvt mentioned his planned anniversary look back at the Summer Jam in Racecourse, NY. That was JOO-LY!!!? 27 & 28, 1973... Can't wait for his tale and hopefully for an h-freak reprise.
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Yes, the recordings in 1971, certainly on these Summer shows, sound very raw compared to the recordings made in 1972. The recordings are a perfect match of songs and material. Another great version from this summer run is the Lovelight from 8/4/71 on the Road Trips bonus disc. Less of the country inflections prevalent in the Europe 1972 versions, or the extemporaneous versions from 1970-but with enough energy to light up a city.
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Ha.. There's quite a few lurkers here and people that read these posts that haven't even set up an account so never post. If someone can recall an event that happened 45 years ago, they have every right to retell the tale. I wish my memories were so good.. Growth rings.. yes, if it were an oak or maple tree, it would be bigger than a house and towering high amount the other trees in the forest by now.
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....when I saw two male lions having sex with each other out in the open. I thought to myself, "Have they no pride?"
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such a loss thanks for the audio/video JimMD makes a middle-aged man get teary-eyed, even after 28 years, over a man I never met. stay away from hard drugs, kids. they'll FUCK you UP.
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"I wouldn't know where to begin" 9/18/74 4/22/77 8/27/72 2/9/73 12/28/79 on and on too many to list
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Great choices for best Playin's. I would add: 5/4/77 "Playin > Comes a Time > Playin" would be in my Top 5 Playin's, inseparable as it is from my favorite version of Comes a Time. The transition into Comes a Time is as good as any transition they ever did. Jerry's solos (especially the second one) in Comes a Time... oh. And the Playin is melodic, but also explores some deep scary space before letting you settle gently into the loving arms of Comes a Time. EDIT - It was so good they skipped the encore. Even the Dead couldn't follow this, ha.
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Thanks for the invite to spew, particularly from the 'real' Oroboros, who is a master at the intact-memory, how-it-went-down-those-many-years-ago road tales. I'm tied up in a work project right now, but by Friday, the 45th anniversary of the Glen soundcheck, I'll post the pics -- just two left now, from the 1st set ending Playing in the Band on 7-28 -- and provide my backstory to the show. Still quite, um, vivid. That'll give me a chance to vape, crack open an IPA and tell a few tales at leisure. Then I'll be forced to spend the weekend at a two-nighter with Derek & Susan at the Rocks and it 'looks like rain.' We'll handle it.
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Looking through all those nostalgic black and whites, it struck me: Where are all the fat people! Seriously, look at all the slim and trim shirtless people in those pictures! Is it that folks were that much more active back then or not inclined to gorge and be lazy? Maybe it is just the average age of folks in the pics being that much younger. Lord knows when I was touring and going to festivals I had a lot less to haul around on my waist!
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If you want to go into some deep jazzy 1974 space listen to the 30 minute Seastone Jam before the Eyes, Bill and Jerry are there early and the rest of the band joins, so its more a jam than just Phil and Ned... Ned sits in the entire second set which is Eyes into Wharf Rat with more jamming. One of the most unique Eyes of the World intro with Ned on his electric piano.. and Keith on the piano!!!
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I would love to see this boxed set released in SACD. This format is far more accessible. As we all are aware, there are very few options for HDCD rendering devices, and I worry this will only worsen in time, as it appears Microsoft is disallowing companies from including HDCD decoding in their devices.
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Listening to the first five minutes of this takes me back. I bought it when it came out, round about 1975. Great sleeve notes, too-"My week beats your year".
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To answer your question directly, if you take Houston 11-18-72 and Vanetta 8-27-72 off the table, no I can't think of a better Playing In The Band than 8-25-72 Dave's Picks 24. You inspired me to put that one on. It rocks and Jerry is super loud. I don't recall this getting talked about too much when it was released but it really is something else isn't it? I'm going to look at the other ones from that week. Dick's Picks 23 and 36 plus Waterbury from 30 Trips Around the Sun. bob t, I don't see Seastones or Eyes of the World on Dick's Picks 7. Where are you listening to that one? Anywhere I can download it?
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I am listening to it on Internet Archive.... listen only they stopped the downloading back in 2000's... you can download audience only but you still can enjoy boards on your devices!!!! Just search 9/11/74 grateful dead and it should pop up!!!! bob t
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Learn to do torrents and you can have everything. http://bt.etree.org Use utorrent free software.
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I will check them out. I think Dave needs to get back to offering Bonus Discs for box sets. There is no motivation to preorder when there's half of the 15 thousand left still. People can just wait until the week of to order. Not that I would take that risk of missing out, but I think a lot more people would buy early. And I'd like a Bonus Disc :-) Watkins Glenn? I know the jam was already released on So Many Roads, but that's out of production now, so they could do it.
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For me this also hard but some of my go-tos are: 8/25/72 (Phil driven!) 8/27/72 (With the Bird Song, China>Rider and Dark Star, just tremendous) 9/27/72 (also Phil driven jamming!) 5/21/74 ( It’s a monster!) 10/16/74 (It’s also a monster!) Really though this is not a comprehensive list, more just the ones I think a about when best of Playin’s are discussed. There are so many more, like for example in 1973... Plus several have mentioned 4/22/77 which is good and which is also the last 1st set Playin’. Playin’ is also one of the songs that can be a stand alone big jam or be the launching point of a 2nd set jam sequence. The Other One can be compared to this but Playin’ I think outlasted The Other One in terms maintaining the jam vehicle/catalyst. I know I keep referencing 1972 but someone else mentioned the 10/18/72 sow with the 2nd set sequence of Playin’ > Drums > Dark Star > Morning Dew > Playin’. I was made aware of this show only about a year ago. I think that sequence is kind of unique, especially for 1972. Yet it delivers because it has the 72' consistency and power we are all used to. Once we make the rounds of Dave’s Picks and other releases from various years (80s, 90s, etc...) I hope we can come back to this one. It’s a great show as it is but this jam sequence really elevates it to something special in my opinion. Certainly it is a great example of Playin’ being the jam vehicle/catalyst as it was to be for many years to come.
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Wow.. I couldn't limit myself to a single page, hats off to you folks putting together comparisons and picks. I have been getting into the PITB/UJB combos lately. I think the topic came up a couple months ago on one of these threads. They played the Previously the Warlocks/Hampton from 10/9/89 on the radio the other day and it sounded simply wonderful. Set 2: Playin' In The Band Uncle John's Band Playin' Reprise Dark Star Drums Death Don't Have No Mercy Dear Mr. Fantasy Hey Jude Reprise Throwin' Stones Good Lovin' Attics Of My Life I listened to the Augusta combo within the last few weeks too. Fierce. I do like the old PITB's the best though, especially '72 but any from '72 through '74 can knock you off your feet. I can get lost in these versions for seemingly days on end. Still.. it could catch fire anytime from any year from '71 right up through the end. I put it right up there Dark Star and The Other One. One of the most powerful songs in their arsenal.
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Every one of the Europe 1972 Playing's are great. There's a real sense of something new being born, every time they take off in the jam. I love the way it just seems to explode in the middle. The 1973 versions are also great, but seem a bit calmer, somehow. I guess by then they knew it was a vehicle for exploration, and they got a bit more sophisticated about where they took it. I haven't played a 1974 version that recently, but from memory I would say that this approach continued and got even more refined as they headed off into an almost modern jazz like direction. Definitely up there with Dark Star and The Other One.
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Jerry "erupts" in an unusual way at 4:30 on 4/14/72. I always pick this one if I am making a mix that I want to rock out on. I did not remember too much about 8/25/72 Playing, and I put it on and Awooooo that one will get you barking at the moon!
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I had Watkins Glen anniversary happening July 27/28, maybe I am missing a month somewhere, could easily happen... will post that account this weekend, its not lengthy adventure, tho I decided I had to remove certain references so it was reduced by half :) kidding Will happily be celebrating it here in Vermont by heading up to Burlington tomorrow evening for an outdoor show with Phil & Friends on Lake Champlain waterfront Park. No Wild Turkey involved. Will note a very tasty show last Friday night, at The Hopkins Center, Dartmouth, Hanover New Hamster with Gillian Welch & Dave Rawlings. Fifth row center after dinner at a local Tibetan restaurant. Gillian I knew from a few of her cds, was pretty much blown away by her partner Rawlings playing... great stuff... this was all acoustic with just a little PA reinforcement. Rawlins was pickin' his 1935 Epiphone Olympic which he found in an attic... beat up but Oh Boy did he make it sweet. Gillian played guitar, a little banjo and harmonica. Her singing was what had drawn me in years ago. Mod trad Appalachian folk plus plus if I had to tag it. Highly recommended, they are touring through the summer. and oh yeah, we just heard Jack and Jorma are coming this fall to a very cool acoustic space in central Vermont.
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Thanks dmcvt... Meant JULY 27-28 (or maybe Julyn't). Corrected below. Looking forward!
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5/6/788/4/79
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That track you put on for hippychic has exactly the same introduction as "How Soon Is Now?" by The Smiths. In fact I assumed it was The Smiths at first.
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cleaning my "dangerous" kitchen (ty2FZ) Bob Dylan sings "I'm in the kitchen with the Tombstone Blues" cool
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I always like it just for the fact that they played in Jamaica!!! Very reggae Scarlet>Fire that they started playing when the sun was rising. Did any one out there attend??? bob t
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My favorite is almost certainly 12-2-73 in large part because of the Space>MLBJ that ensues. One of my very favorite shows ever. But there are tons of incredible Playin's from 72-74. From the "Brent and beyond" era i think the Playin' from Laguna Sececa '88 is far and away the best. YMMV.
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I'll play. 12/1/73 Boston. There's an Uncle John's Band in between. Great stuff. Uncle Gary sent me that one. Uncle Gary is the coolest dude this side of the moon. I used to really be into the one from live at the Cow Palace New Year's 1976. I haven't listened to it in a while. I'll bet it's still good. 8/25/72 DaP 24 - now there's a scorcher. With the exception of August 27th 1972 and November 18th 1972, this might be in the running for best. Bobby is nice and loud too, and really keeps it rocking with his between the beat chops and slices. As someone mentioned, Phil drives this thing, and he has a heavy foot. And of course Jerry with his Aligator wah wah (just listen to him bust out at the end of the jam section into the Playing reprise). I'm also going to site a couple more post hiatus: DP 10 which is that December 77 winterland performance that has them doing the first China cat Rider since before Mickey came back. Also Dave's Picks 18. This one you don't want to miss as far as I'm concerned. Yeah it's mellow 76, but there's nothing wrong with that, no malware than a dark star or a bird song. Keith in Phil just leave this thing on incredibly with mesmerizing chords and notes and Billy Goats.
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