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    August 20 - August 26, 2007

    As we move toward the symbolic end of summer (Labour Day, of course), we have some great music to play spanning about 21 years of Grateful Dead music, from 1968 to 1989, two fine years with which to bookend this week’s offerings.

    Our first entry this week is the encore from 8/21/68 at the Fillmore West in San Francisco, a nice, juicy Midnight Hour. Although not quite as prevalent at shows in 1968 as it had been in 1966, the Grateful Dead continued to play monster versions of this Pigpen vehicle.

    Next we’ll stop into 1972, to the opening night of the rightfully famous Europe 72 tour, to 4/7/72 in London. From the middle of that night’s first set is a typically hot 1972 rendition of China Cat Sunflower>I Know You Rider.

    In 1976, at the end of their very successful summer of comeback shows, the Grateful Dead entered the studio and recorded a couple of the songs they’d been playing that summer. From one of those sessions on 8/29/76 is this bare-bones Dancing In The Street with only Donna on vocals. While we’re in mid-1970s mode, we also have this terrific Samson and Delilah from 5/12/77 in Chicago. Despite the frequency that song was played in 1976-1977, they never seem to get tired of it, always offering up an inspired rendition.

    Finally from the 1970s, on 4/22/78 in Nashville to be precise, we are pleased to bring you a couple of tracks from the second set, starting with the second set opening Lazy Lightning>Supplication and the pre-Drums Estimated Prophet>Eyes of the World, both very nicely performed songs on this night.

    Our last stop this week is in New Jersey on 7/10/89, a show that took place in and out of a massive thunderstorm. By request, we have the first set closer, The Music Never Stopped, and from the start of the second set, a great 1989 combination of Foolish Heart, Just a Little Light, Playing In The Band>Uncle John’s Band. What a great tour.

    Be sure to check in next week, as we’ll be exploring some intriguing material from 1969 and 1980, and other material between those years, and likely after. We try to surprise even ourselves. Feel free to write with questions or comments.

    Please note that beginning today all Taper’s Section audio streams are served via a new media player in both Windows Media Audio and QuickTime Audio formats.

    David Lemieux
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  • BrodyBean
    17 years 3 months ago
    Disappointed yet appreciated...
    While I too am disappointed at the decision made to change the format, I am still appreciative that they allowed us to download all they did to this point. At the end of the day we are all left wondering why they made the change and why it was not communicated. I am sure the decision was made for revenue consideration, and the same could be said for the reasons behind not communicating. Perhaps they were concerned that if word got out ahead of time that those who had not DL the files would do so in a frenzy and effectively crash the system. (I am sure that most of you already had the majority archieved properly) I also wonder if or how this plays into the new GD station on Sirius radio, among other things. I guess it really doesn't matter. In the end I can still say that I am appreciative of the files offered for DL and still look forward to the opportunity to receive more "freebies" if/when they elect to do so. There will be more "for fee" options coming out I am sure, I will just have to be more selective in deciding which are most worthy (they all have value) and look forward to objective feedback/ratings from the others here to help drive those decisions.
  • robsjca76
    17 years 3 months ago
    Kill with kindness?
    #415... It is a shame that the collective reaction has seemingly exceeded the boundaries of "reason" but I understand the reasoning, given the lack of communication to this very moment, the emotions being expressed and certain comments that seem to have been edited after the fact... and the lack of the music we had all come to look forward to each Monday morning. I say "shame" because I thought perhaps if any population were qualified to assume the best or find resolve in a time of loss in "selflessness", it would be the deadheads. On the other hand, assuming the best seems rather foolish and though I wish less anger had been expressed here (for collectively selfish reasons) it is understandable given the entire history of downloading Dead music and the very much anticipated new releases that exist only in concept form next to a calculator on someone's desk. Let's face it... we have full access to the Vault. It's out there... somewhere. The more years that pass the more places it will all become available. We don't need Rhino. Hunting tracks and concerts down even is part of the fun. Despite this, we have been supporting Rhino and we even seem to be trying to find ways to help them let us continue to support them which is plain ironic and is either a really good sign or a really bad one. I personally don't want any mainstream anything distributing GD merchandise but what I want is irrelevant really. I just fear that Rhino will offer the following response "Well f___ you too!" but don't be surprised that it never lands in your inbox... as it's bad for PR. The point raised earlier about bandwidth Rhino has to shell out for us to listen to the new format is an excellent point and makes me want to take the longest file I can find, set it to play continuously overnight or for as long as my machine is turned on and ask others to do the same... but this wouldn't be right (or environmental for that matter). I don't think we should resort to threats such as punishing ourselves further by boycotting this site and community and not partaking in the sale of future releases. A spade is a spade and we're in it for life and we're most definitely going to be buying that next release... whatever it turns out to be. I don't believe everything in life has to use that same old boring typical pathetic sad cheap model... though I won't be surprised to find out that it's too late either. I think it is important for people to express themselves and technically useful for Rhino since as it occurred to me earlier today while sitting in my office... some execs had to have been discussing exactly all of this as I was glancing over the comments and contemplating giving that streaming a second try. I did not. I just think we should remember that the individual can impact the whole community and ideally we should express ourselves wisely and as constructively as possible. If those expressing themselves in such fatalistic and final ways were correct in saying that no one with any heart has any say in any of this and we are left to deal with the "corporation" (and we all know how much sympathy and accountability they've been known to instill in the masses) then please accept my apology for this well intentioned "distraction" of mine. I am hoping for the best and getting tired of having to do so. Certain sad and pathetic recurring themes... boring even! Let's show Rhino the best of us and maybe we'll get to see the best of them. Personally, I'm going to await the best possible response from the administrators of this site and from Rhino outlining the best possible reasoning and the best possible proposal to provide the best possible outcome. It will be a personal experiment, even if fit proves to be a foolish move in the end. I have come to this conclusion because I won't allow myself to resemble in any way what it is that I am supposedly opposed to and myself aside, what is done... is done. This is my final comment at least until we hear back. I guess someone else gets that #420 I was hoping to land on. Fingers crossed...

  • grateful34
    17 years 3 months ago
    Thanks for everything
    Concerning this whole mess- it was first a bit of shock, a disappointment, an aggravation. I've tried the patience thing, read all of the posts and realize it's out of the hands of those that actually care about the music, i.e. DG and DL and i'm sure others (who have no control in the matter), But after no official comment or explanation with such a large response of concerned postings, my feelings about all this have turned to apathy. If the powers that be don't care enough to shed some light on things, i don't care anymore either. Certainly more important matters going on in this country and world where open dialogue and reasonable discussion may or may not change things. Yeah, that's right, I give up on this site. I still care about the music and will find it elsewhere, but jeez, what a debacle this has been! It's generated plenty of discussion if nothing else. Thanks for everything! "Feels like it might be alright"
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As we move toward the symbolic end of summer (Labour Day, of course), we have some great music to play spanning about 21 years of Grateful Dead music, from 1968 to 1989, two fine years with which to bookend this week’s offerings.

Our first entry this week is the encore from 8/21/68 at the Fillmore West in San Francisco, a nice, juicy Midnight Hour. Although not quite as prevalent at shows in 1968 as it had been in 1966, the Grateful Dead continued to play monster versions of this Pigpen vehicle.

Next we’ll stop into 1972, to the opening night of the rightfully famous Europe 72 tour, to 4/7/72 in London. From the middle of that night’s first set is a typically hot 1972 rendition of China Cat Sunflower>I Know You Rider.

In 1976, at the end of their very successful summer of comeback shows, the Grateful Dead entered the studio and recorded a couple of the songs they’d been playing that summer. From one of those sessions on 8/29/76 is this bare-bones Dancing In The Street with only Donna on vocals. While we’re in mid-1970s mode, we also have this terrific Samson and Delilah from 5/12/77 in Chicago. Despite the frequency that song was played in 1976-1977, they never seem to get tired of it, always offering up an inspired rendition.

Finally from the 1970s, on 4/22/78 in Nashville to be precise, we are pleased to bring you a couple of tracks from the second set, starting with the second set opening Lazy Lightning>Supplication and the pre-Drums Estimated Prophet>Eyes of the World, both very nicely performed songs on this night.

Our last stop this week is in New Jersey on 7/10/89, a show that took place in and out of a massive thunderstorm. By request, we have the first set closer, The Music Never Stopped, and from the start of the second set, a great 1989 combination of Foolish Heart, Just a Little Light, Playing In The Band>Uncle John’s Band. What a great tour.

Be sure to check in next week, as we’ll be exploring some intriguing material from 1969 and 1980, and other material between those years, and likely after. We try to surprise even ourselves. Feel free to write with questions or comments.

Please note that beginning today all Taper’s Section audio streams are served via a new media player in both Windows Media Audio and QuickTime Audio formats.

David Lemieux
vault [at] dead.net

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Happy Monday! Nice selections... always a treat to start the week! Thanks D.L.. Keep up the good work! All The Children Learning From Books They Were Burning
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Please bring back the downloadable 192k mp3s . . .
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lethedoom: I have been enjoying saving the selections to disc and listening to them on my iPod at the gym. Is this possible in this new arrangement?
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hey, this was great. i have enjoyed mondays, and especially have enjoyed not being chained to my computer to listen to the tapers section(mp3's and ipod, and what not). it probably was too good to be true. it's hard not to feel ungrateful, but... it's different now that it's streaming only. oh well, you guys did what you could. thanks for the effort.
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Hey come on!!! I look forward to be able to listen to these carefully selected gems on my stereo, not on some dinky computer!! I love sitting back and reaching that moment of delight in the song the let's me why you Mr. Lemieux picked this specific selection, don't take that away!!!! I know you love the music as much as we do so I can't understand this decision. It's more than music, why tease us with downloads and then yank them away!! very wrong man. What's the deal! respectfully yours, Bruce
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I'll add that I was trading being able to download the mp3s for buying the dead.net releases - my most recent two purchases were the 12/31/76 and 2/19/71 sets. I really loved the taper section, I loved David's choices and comments about the music. I can't stream at work. I valued being able to download the mp3s and use them as I saw fit. This is a bad move and I hope that it is reconsidered.
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DL: I know this is not your fault so thanks for what you do. Rhino: Up yours Rhino, you can take the vault and hide it under a rock since that's what you pretty much are doing. Well besides throwing us turds like the 2-19-71. Thanks for taking the coolest part of the site away by removing the weekly downloads. Does anybody at RHINO know what the F they are doing???
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lethedoom--I tried to use the wma format choice and it won't play im my FX browser or in IE 7.The Quicktime format works--is this my problem or DeadNet's? I join the line of supplicants requesting you to reinstate the 192kmp3 downloadable links--they provided delicacies with a quality rarely matched by any other source.
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David, This was something to look forward to, now it is a has been. We all cherished these weekly treats and now they have become nothing more than a picture in the window that we can see let alone taker home. This is meant to the powers that be and not specifically you! Please let them hear our pleas to bring back this tasty little treat.
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Well sorta sucks ... Oh well as gespacho said, it was good while it lasted, doubt I'll be back though unless the format changes back OR even better, have both formats ...
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Why did you have to do this? ... Jerry would definately NOT be happy with this move.........
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gespacho is absolutely right. I feel like a kid at his mother's teet - I know that I need to be grateful for what I have been given and blessed with. Yet, this is a loss and another disappointment to the Grateful Dead Community. If this falls to the right ears, with humility and respect, PLEASE know that we are purchasers of GD products, not moochers. We are supporters of all of the DVD releases, dead family cd's (between Dick's Picks, studio releases, Phil Lesh and Friends CD's, JGB, Kingfish, Robert Hunter, Rat Dog official releases I have purchased over 70 discs - not to mention the albums and cassettes) and having these downloads available is not keeping us from supporting the bands. If there is anyway to keep the OLD WAY rolling, I swear that my continued support is guaranteed. If we are unable to maintain this giving-tree in a responsible manner that will allow the Dead to continue to flourish, you have my understanding. But if at all possible, let us know if there is anything that we can do to keep this taper section rolling as it had. It means a lot to me, how much we'll never know....never know.Bless you all!!
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...Otherwise the music I've enjoyed every Monday will be no more :-( Streaming is contrary to work policy and I am not inclined to sit at the PC at home. Thanks for the shows to date, nice selection. I'll miss them but will no doubt visit to read David's review.......and hopefully to find a reconsideration to format. Cheers, Greg
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Why the change$$$$$$.Many of us look forward to Mondays with GREAT ANTICIPATION! Millions of hours music are out there.If it ain't broke why fix it.Whats next TRUCKIN as the background music to a Ford commercial.
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Yep this streaming sucks.... Can't do it at work... Mp3s were very very nice..I know it's not you David.. However I want Davids Picks vol 1!!!! WTF Rhino I'm ready to pay for good music.. Sorry just cranky without new Dead on a rainy Monday....
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after 10 min no sounds in the pluginthis is the end.
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I have to add my voice to the long line of those who were deeply dissappointed todaya to find that the downloadable mp3's have been taken away. After the archive.org debacle, I vowed to cease doing business with 'the dead' in terms of buying things like Dicks Picks or Vault Releases etc. When this feature popped up on the new site I was just plain thrilled and immediately purchased a couple of remasters and started making plans for future purchases. Indeed, I was just a week away from a planned purchase of more official release material. I don't think I will be making those purchases now. Truely a sad change. I won't even bother to listen to these streams, The entire advantage of the downloadable mp3's was that I could take them, remix them together, and burn them to CD's and listen to them on the road, or while camping etc. Rhino, you really yanked our chains, and for me, I think this WILL be the last time.
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Many of us cannot stream audio at work or simply don't want to listen to music on a computer. The downloadable mp3 was a great option that provided enormous flexibility to users. I can't believe that there is any substantial business reasons that require stream-only listening. Please consider going back to the downloadable mp3 option.
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*************** Thanks Lemmy for all you could do for as long as you did
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Oil change my ass it was more like a lube job.
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Let me just suggest, mod-ishly speaking, that whereas it is fine to post here and far be it from me to discourage you from doing so, please note the fine Feedback button at the bottom of your screen. And use it. Thank you.
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Please bring back the MP3 format , it was faster in every practical sense , Time is Gold ! Thanx for ALL the music anyway . DeadFreaks united !
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tj crowley i wasn't sure what iminpa meant by his posting but now i do.....i'm lost..i took me a while to figure out how to download initially the previous way..NOW!? i'm lost...but hey! glad your ok dave....
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David, Thank you for your efforts! I am sure this was another stupid move by Rhino. You gave us something when Rhino gave us crap (12/31/76 & 2/19/71)! Give us the two-tracks Rhino! Release the Winterland Box Set!
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greed is all this point s towards, now the taper's sections is going the weay of the almighty dollar, now you are gonna make up greatest hits selction and sell them right? streaming sounds we are all up the creek with out a paddle and free music, and by the way it was intended that way the last time i checked! free
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I fail to see the logic behind this bizarre decision, especially after 38 weeks of bliss. I really looked forward to Mondays, now it's like the old days again, just: "Monday - back to work" Bad move imho Dave. Loved it while it lasted, though, and I am very grateful for those 38 weeks. It is (was) rare to have one's anticipation so richly rewarded. You may rest assured that your labour of love was appreciated.
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round and round I'm jonezin here =...(

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Please tell me this is a joke. Please reconsider on the side of music and what the Dead stand for!
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tj crowley "WE" have to pay for it now? that's a drag...i work in a field (addiction's) where the pay in not so much financial and now have to pay for music that was initially determined to be free...where was it written 'after it's played, it's theirs'? really sad about i guess a decision to change the system...as posted previously i had difficulty grasping the inital way to download..now this?!
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Advise takenMessage delivered to "Feedback." click link below and formally request and/or protest, freaky friends
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Thank you for the immense amount of music that we all have enjoyed along with details and stories that we have looked forward to every week. I have personally directed friends to this site and helped to share this music with sympathetic souls. Although I am very grateful for the last year of music I am joining together to ask if there can be an arrangement to continue to export the music. I buy every release that is made available, I listen at home, in the car, and at work. The only sacrifice I cannot make is to listen on computer speakers. It is sacrilegious. Thanks again. -thunder
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Used to be able to play the tapers section and now I can't...makes me wonder why you changed... it had been part of starting the work week on happy feet but not today
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Hey Dave, j.Webb here from Elginstreet Ottawa, hope all is well. What happened today, I'm gonna miss Mondays.
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I'm just happy that I downloaded all the previous taper's sections. Still a lot of good stuff to enjoy in there. And now we shall move on.
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Your company creates the problem by making it hard on fans by doing little things like this. I come here every Monday and dl the tunes and it makes my day. My computer won't even load the tunes now. I don't feel I am owed anything, but what is up with this corporate nonsense. You think people are burning all of the mp3's and making profit? Most everything in the vault is already out there anyways and Aud recordings--before you learn how to fuck those people--are still abundant. One of the previous comments said we will soon see 'Truckin' on a Ford commercial. I am sure it will get even worse than that. I don't see anything getting better in this organization anytime soon.
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Hey Dave, Webb here from Ottawa, I was really enjoying these Monday's . Say it ain't over!
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What does this mean? I was hoping that more of 4-7-72 would be delivered as promised, but I can't convert this "China>Rider" to wav format in order to burn CD's? Is this yet another ripple from the archive.org debacle? Say it ain't so, Dave!?
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Hi David, Drew from Toronto checking in. Is there a good (real) explanation as to why this unfortunate news has come about. My Players won't play, and its Monday, and its raining and.... I'm sure you get the just of it. Oh yeah, I forgot to say thanks for all the hardwork you've put in. ds
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... I would not be so upset about no more Taper's Section downloads. I come to the Dead website for new music that I can take home and enjoy as I wish. But now, since I have every Dick's Picks that I want (every one from 1968 to 1981), and I have every Download that I want (every one from 1968 to 1980), and I own nearly every studio album, most every live album, plus Garcia CDs and Ace, Digga, etc. etc. there is no reason for me to come back. Clearly, as you can see from my purchasing history, the free Taper's Section downloads were not stopping me from spending money with you guys. On the contrary, those downloads opened my eyes to the great music played during the Dead's later years. Those downloads also brought me to this website every single Monday morning, nosing around for music. So here's some basic marketing advice. In order to make money you need to: 1. Entice people to your website. How? Free downloads every Monday! 2. Give people something new to buy. Not beltbuckles or babybibs but your core product -- music! So restart the Dick's Picks series, restart the Downloads, improve the Vault Releases and watch us spend, spend, spend! And, because the Dead have always been about spreading the music, toss us a bone and restart the Taper's Section downloads. You'll be glad you did. Scott Shindell
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It was too good to be true ... very worse descision ... but even the Dead ???
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The old bait and switch. It was great to gome here every week and get new tunes, and now the bigwigs have shut it off. Another Archive-gate, isn't it? Geez... Kirk
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I don't have an internet connection at home and I can't stream at work. Please bring back the Mp3 files. Otherwise, I cannot listen to these anymore. I would be very grateful if you returned to posting Mp3s.
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bring back the MP3s Please!!!!
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Come on man, i listen to 80% of my music in my car or at work. When I do listen to music at home I have a nice stereo that I either play cds, tapes albums, or my Ipod. Bring back the downloads please. Peace K
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...continue to offer free stuff (albeit in a usless format) and STILL throw away all our goodwill - what a piece of business THAT was.