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    "The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

    And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

    Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • Vguy72
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    To those who think Boise is "unworthy"....
    I present this.....https://imgur.com/5JrDrkC
  • Vguy72
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    Poster/Print collecting....
    ....I still have like 4 or 5 to frame. People will pay big $$$ for some. I have a Phish poster from the '98 Vegas Halloween show that was going for over $800 the last time I saw one for sale around four years ago. The Dead & Co Vegas show print from last year is going for around $250. Crazy. Widespread Panic had some awesome ones from Vegas a couple of years ago. I totally forget to stop at the merch station then. Got a little too high in the parking lot prior. This is your brain on drugs.....edit. Depending on where you live, it's hatch chili season. Yummmm.
  • Dennis
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    That was the only thing that cross my mind. Poster collecting can be a neat thing, but lord knows I don't need more shit. Will have to look for some pictures of these combined images.
  • Kayak Guy
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    a tale of the times.
    if you were lucky enough to see the Grateful Dead and didn't have a bad trip while there, chances are you had an entertaining to life changing event. this became formulaic in the late 70s when Drum>Space got locked into a feature of the 2nd set. as tours went on songs became 1st or 2nd set tunes and eventually became limited to slots within their respective sets, with very little deviance until the end. to see the song you wanted meant going to many shows in a row to get it, Morning Dew had a 10 show rotation, Way to Go Home had a 2 show rotation, Bobby tunes had a 4 to 5 day rotation.this made the shows almost ritualistic for those that got it and to some people dancing at a Dead show was the ultimate experience in life. the shows became events and the best party in town where ever they were and worth traveling for. it might take over a thousand miles of touring to get that Dew you wanted. by the time Keith was all used up, Bobby had a keyboardist from his solo band he thought might be a good fit, Jerry saw some Bobby shows, Keith & Donna retired and the rehearsals with Brent started in spring 1979. the fact that Clive Davis the head of Arista records also was lobbying for Brent as a good fit might have helped also. by summer 1979 they were locked into the format, had new tunes, and a keyboard/vocalist that wasn't just part of the rhythm section, but an organist that had an electronic keyboard sound that was going to be big in the 1980s. the band had reinvented itself and was ready to get that hit album that Clive knew was in them. Go To Heaven was not that album. yes Clive Davis was a deadhead before he was their boss and gave them the room they needed. Betty and Brent became involved together and when that went south around the time of Brent's failed solo album, Betty became an Ex and the era of Betty boards was over. from here on it was Healy's PA SBDs that became the reference copies and had the PA mix with Drums, Keyboards and Vocals out front, not to mention Healy's additional effects, and the amplified instruments lower in the mix so they wouldn't feed back. after the return of the acoustic sets and the Dead Set & Reckoning came out they started the 5 years it took to get the material for a new album and the new tunes came at a slower rate. instead the band kept up the tour schedule, the bad habits and added cover tunes to keep the new fans they were getting coming back for more. there was nothing like a Grateful Dead concert and word got out. by this time some amazing AUD tapes were being recorded on customized tape decks with shot gun mics on poles to get them above the crowd. these capture how it sounded in the hall and were more realistic than the SBDs from the PA. as the tours went on it was obvious Jerry wasn't doing well, but he was trying, and the tours continued until he physically couldn't anymore. the worse Jerry's voice got, the louder the crowd singing along got, so gaffs and croaks were less noticed as everyone else was singing the right lyrics. his guitar playing though developed a shreddy quality and the Tiger years has such a sweet sound. what it did lead to was the entire hall getting into the same breathing pattern singing along with Jerry, while doing the happy acid dance and knowing at that moment they were in the best place on earth at that time. this experience worked pretty consistently right up to the end, even though we knew by then it was more about the formulaic ritual experience than it was about the quality of the music being played. to say this music is unworthy of release is wrong. the whole idea of Dave's Picks is to take whats left from the vault and put out the whole shows in the best quality possible and people that subscribe should understand this. it's not about having to own every release just so you don't have a gap in your display because you only like a certain period of the bands 30 year history. if you don't like it give it away to someone that wants it that got shut out. sell it for a profit on ebay, burn it like the devil music you think it is, banish it from your life. this is what the future box sets will most likely be filled with, the returned Betty's using the Plangent process, because the only box from the returned tapes not Plangent processed is the July 78 box that still sits in limbo as the last of the Music Today boxes and failed digital rollout. at this point the July 78 box looks like it was rushed and victim to being a test if they had to Plangent the tapes or in house digitization would do, clearly it is required and worth the added expense and time. july 78 is a great box and concept that should have sold out by now. is it as good as the Plangent processed boxes like the 2 from spring 77 or Sunshine Daydream? no, not close, but is it on par with Dave's Picks quality? yes it is and it's like getting a whole years subscription of 1978 Betty's in a deluxe package. if this new box sounds as good as Dave says, "like a whole new tape" because of the Plangent processing, Dave's future picks will have to start on the Brent years to ensure box set potential into the 3rd 10 year licensing deal. maybe Rhino needs to have something like this before you hit the subscription order to remind you that not everything is a Betty and they have been milking that 71-78 reel to reel time period pretty hard for the past 20 years. there's 23 years of cassettes and DATs that fit the mission statement of whole shows that can be remastered from the 2 tracks that might be released as part of the subscription. Caveat Emptor: This compact disc has been digitally remastered directly from the original metal cassette. It is a snapshot of history, not a modern professional recording, and may therefore exhibit some technical anomalies and the unavoidable effects of the ravages of time
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    Nice post, agree with most. Couple of comments though......sometimes a bad trip could end up being a entertaining and/or life changing event too....; ) like the first time doing the electric tango at a show, front row on 4/12/83, thought for a while I had died, but it was ok.......cause behind the bright white light at the end of the tunnel (Candace’s new Morpheus vari-lights, coming from behind the band on full on bright white LOL).....the Galdang GD was playing, so it was all good hee-hee. I believe this was during Dupree’s with that crazy organ grinder bounce going on, like some wierd F&L psychedelic carnival vision.... Things started @ 2 Hour peak during Cassidy, with it’s all over now, sorta freaking me out, you know “it’s all over now!” Oops, and of course Loser was a bit frightening under the circumstances, at some point I Sorta had to slump on the rail and ride it out. As I say, I felt I had some wierd death trip, and could not see for a few, then slowly that slinky carnival music caught my attention, and my vision stated to some what normalize, as I came out of it, and had the whole “light at the end of the tunnel” vision, ending up with a with a huge grin and a totally mind blowing affirmation of life during Let it Grow, coming back around full strength with “I Am, I AM, Iiiiiiiii aaaammmmmmmm!!! Pheewww, gives me chills still! Distinctly remeber having “I think I have been here before”, and “meet me some morning in the sweet by and by”” lyrics going through my head and of course “ remember, it’s only a drug” mantra......... Life changing indeed. I now realized it’s ok to die..... Don’t forget in the “tape” evolution when Healy was broadcasting shows over his own FM transmitter for short range distribution around the venue in an attempt to feed fans without taper tickets a way to record as well as a way for folks who were shut out to perhaps dig the show without showing up on site and overwhelming the venue/natives etc (long story, missed the great dance party in one of the hotel parking lots on 3/26/88,the only show I was ever shut out. Heard it was almost as good as getting in?) I’ve had some good tapes that were recorded like this..... I know it’s not the general consensus here, but like you’ve said there is nothing like a really well done AUD recording imho. Personally, I still think a properly done matrix recording is best. I’ve really noticed this from DVD transfers I’ve made. I go coax digital straight to the Masterlink 9600, thereby skipping two steps of conversion. So recording at higher resolution, but then of course down ressing to red book. Yes SBDs are great, but they often do not sound like what the band actually sounded like live in the venue. As you all know, great SBD/Betty board etc can be an awesome recording to listen to, but they do not sound like what the band actually sounded like in the venue.....for good or for ill. It’s physics folks so don’t even try to argue about this.....you can certainly argue that YOU prefer the SBDs, but they don’t sound like it did live!
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    It's 8/12/72 anniversary day. Got a note for you. You know the wicked opening salvo Jerry plays on the 11/17/72 Me & My Uncle? He gets the same effect with Black Peter. This show has any number of hitches in the gitalong, but overall it sets the tone for that show 15 days later.
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    Dennis. The rush to the merch stand was for the concert poster. Some of the runs' posters (which are limited in number e.g. 800) are thus very collectable. The ones done by artist Pollock catch quite a sum and are sought after. The halloween run at AC of 2013 poster set is a sweet (not by him), and combine to make one larger image; which is typical. The phish poster folk all brought a sling so that they could shoulder the poster in its tube through the show. Shmucks like me paid more than twice as much on third market for the set...and a heap more to frame.
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    BUENOS DIAS ROCKEROS!! - Dosed @ the DMV, talk about getting “the fear”..... - The electric fence joke; Vguy, somehow he just keeps getting better and better folks! Look for this guy on Carson! - STOLTZY; 9/21&10/17/82 look interesting, thanks for the tip. We were at 9/24/82, have never heard it, but thought it was a decent show for the time, of course I was still relatively wet behind the ears, and we rented a luxury bus full of like 50 freaks for the then three hour ride, complete with kegs.....Cue the thunder “a three hour tour”.... - 7/4/86; see my post about this on NW box thread.... - 30 Trips; fffffffffffuuuuuuhccccccckkkkkkkk, I missed it again! Sorta like first time, bad timing of fundage, found out too late etc partially because I have picked up 3 DPs, 3 Daps, and 2 RTs, with more coming soon, and mama talking to Santa on my behalf for some others (finally starting to do some catching up) And with the Mighty box looming.......!!!! - DP36; used to use the same MO @ Dead shows; go for best sound, with good views, equals somewhere in the center, usually just behind the “asshole”zone and a bit in from the board. Would go up front all the time when we started out, but as GA went away, and the crowds aaaaa, started to “change” it wasn’t worth it.... - Dave’s 13 and 16; holy guacamole bat man; finally picked these up, felt a little greasy paying so much, but now that their ripped and roaring, and hey, nothing like a cool DS shower to cleanse body and soul! Yeah, checked out 13 last night, fuck I really need to listen to more early 73! As if I wasn’t tweaked enough already for this new Box!! 16 will be spinning today, another big ole meaty DS, yummmm Now if I could find 9’ 6, and 19.....hee-hee, like that Bare Naked Ladies song “never enough” were they the 80s? I guess more like 90s.... - 80s music; gawd I hated that shit back then. But it’s funny how some stuff grows on you, or perhaps you open up more with age? Like I really dig the Cure now, how can you not crank “ it’s friday and I’m in love again” on a Friday afternoon! Ok folks, that is all, uncle Pedro singing off! Peace (thuuudd, ah, that’s the mic dropping....) ; )
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    I don't think 27 is bad, just not one of the great era shows. It's what makes this band interesting to me, I enjoy listening to how they played and sang on an "off" night. It puts all the great ones in perspective. As far as Phish, my phriends tried. I just don't get it. The singing and lyrics I find to just be dopey, cornball shit like something from a comic book. As a serious person I prefer the profound words of Robert Hunter. That's ok. One less person to stand in line ahead of you. As far as Dave, he should put out two more "off" nights in a row from the Dead. It may make it easier to make early online purchases in the future.
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    Why did the first 50 rush to the "merch" stand?
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"The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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....it was just shit. Drop the crazy. I like my happy place just fine. And yes alvarhanso. Stop motion is a dying art. I latch onto every one I can find. Meticulous and wonderous.
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Similar setlists for sure, and I'm not so fond of 22, but 26 is a completely different animal. Much better main show and bonus. The two Other Ones are massively different (hell, the two halves of Other Ones on 11/17/71 are incredibly different from each other with that fantastic Me & My Uncle jam in the second half and Feelin' Groovy in the first, along with at least 3 other distinct jams). Also, some of us didn't like the shows chosen for 22, as 12/4 & 5 are almost universally more highly regarded, and both circulate in good FM SBDs, which is probably why they chose the lesser knowns. 26 is a great offering in giving an opportunity to directly compare the sound of the band with just Keith, then adding Pigpen, kind of like Dave's 6 with Pigpen and Pigpen and TC. I'm avoiding wading back into the sound/performance debate on this Pick again, I've made my points on that, and I'm happy for those who are ecstatic with this release. It won't get many listens for me probably, but I'm okay with that, I have 26 other Dave's, 36 Dick's, and a bunch of box sets, and other officially released shows, so I'm perfectly fine with it just sitting there making the collection pretty. ETA: Vguy did you see Fantastic Mr Fox as well? I'm a sucker for Wes Anderson, and Isle of Dogs didn't disappoint for me at all. Also, the Bob, Brent, Billy, Mickey Jam leading into Drums and the Space afterward are high points on this release.
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....Wes Anderson is my spirit animal. Coraline is another treasure. It's not Anderson, but it's a high water mark.
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....me too. Tonight I'm spinning RT 4.5. Lounge Dead to some. To me it's just the GOGD."Sleepy fire in your eyes. Is that desire in disguise?" Coitus anyone? I've had girlfriends and a current wife who pull that string. Shazam!! ....edit. The Dancin' is worth ones attention. Pull out your Boston Road Trips, check your disco at the door, and crank that shit!
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....that the RT 4.5 release features a Franklin's encore? G'night.looks like jrf snagged that awesome days between artwork. I love it. Can I get it on a flag?
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I got it from an e-mail from dead.net that came in today. Check your e-mail.:o)
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....I got it in my email. I asked if I could get it on a flag. I would buy it.
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oops...
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Just a reminder that as of this morning, August 2nd, a certain huge sales website that starts with the letter A and rhymes with Jam-a-thon still has new copies of Dave's Picks 20, 22, 24, and 25 available in limited quantities for their original price. If you missed any of these on their respective release dates, you can get a surplus copy while they last.
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I’m with you on this, alvarhanso, I love 26 and think it’s a really awesome set- with the jams of course and the Keith, Pig Pen variation. But looking at the two together leaves me scratching my head. That said, I’m definitely not in the ecstatic about this release lot. 83/84 is/was long due, but there are better ones, to be sure. As I mentioned before, that June 83 run is a beast- but Dave mentioned (even in the liner notes) the problem with those. I am, however, happy with this one. Where does 28 go from here? Hmm.
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Anyone go last night? how was it? what was the box set reveal like?
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I had a really good time last night. I know this show is available on DVD but its a great show and its fun watching it on the big screen with good sound. All my friends are lame so I went by myself this year...but I still felt right at home in many ways. Everyone was all smiles and some young ladies were dancing in the aisles and everyone cheering and applauding after each song. Not a bad way to spend a Wednesday night.
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at my theater, there was no box reveal. there was a trivia loop prior to the show (e.g., "who was the only female member of the GD?"), but nothing else.
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I grabbed 20, 22. Crazy what the older ones are going for... Surplus copy?
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I am perhaps speculating when I use the phrase "surplus copy." My assumption is that batches of extra CDs above and beyond the limited release number are produced for each Dave's Picks for replacements/shipping losses/defects and that these are now being sold to clean house. #14 sold out after a day or two and #22 looks to sell out today. I suspect the remaining 3 (20, 24, 25) are going to be gone sooner rather than later. Again, just educated guesses.
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Interesting, I missed out on 14. I will have to keep my eyes out..
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...even after several times through. Assholes want to take their digs at me for expressing my enjoyment....that's their problem and I could care less.
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Did all of you posting about this release the past few days pay for express shipping or something? I didn't get mine yet :-( Waited and watched for mailman like I was expecting Mailorder tickets back in the day LOL... but no... just bills and solicitations. Bummer... iG
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Did all of you posting about this release the past few days pay for express shipping or something? I didn't get mine yet :-( Waited and watched for mailman like I was expecting Mailorder tickets back in the day LOL... but no... just bills and solicitations. Bummer... iG
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To answer your question I did regular delivery. My email said the 31st but it got here on the 30th. I'm in the SF Bay area
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with all due respect to Bobby...lol... I was afraid of a wardrobe malfunction moment watching 7/7/89 last night.
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My appreciation actually went up the 2nd listening
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So now that I've had a chance to do a couple more listen throughs of DP 27 I'm liking it more and more. Yes, the vocals are overriding the instruments more than I'd like. I do like the quicker tempo on some of the tunes. This is a time capsule of the only concert the Dead ever played in Idaho. It's from the soundboard master and back in those days low generation copies of it on the tape trader circuit would have been coveted. So this was mastered on cassette and not reel-to reel. A CD made from a soundboard cassette is better than one than one that can't be made because the Betty Board has been lost in an attic somewhere. Keep 'em coming Dave and thanks Jeffrey for your great work on these.
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Wow, this sounds better than I thought it would! Seriously, this is a fine sounding release, believe me, I have heard ALOT worse than this! Dave L. and Co. need to mine the '80's and '60's more, because this sounds perfect to these ears. Anyway, I heard that there are "recording patches", does anyone have the start-stop times of the sound patches? It is not listed on the release as there being any "patches". Again, this a real fine release and the GD camp should not be so worried about the recordings because this is just fine. Oh yeah, the music - the band is cooking and playing with fire. More please!
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Admittedly haven't listened yet because I am away - but I expect to fully, fully enjoy the release when I'm back - whatever "warts" and all. With almost all of the Dick's Picks, Dave'Picks, box sets, Vault releases, Download Series, etc, I think I have roughly 22 to 25 days of Dead music I could play straight without repeating a track. What I appreciate most is the VARIETY! Sure 68-69, 72-74, 77 or a few select years, may be THE best or THE best recorded, but it would be BORING to just have that. What keeps me buying is variety. And releasing 80's shows and 90's shows, and any earlier releases 65-70, represents variety. Rarely do I have the time to listen to full shows all the way through anyways, so even if a show is pretty average at parts, but has a particularly great "section", at this point that is enough for me to buy it. Example, the recent 11/06/77 release. Given that 11/04 and 11/05 was already released as well as many other shows from 77 that are IMO more enjoyable overall than 11/06/77, I can question it's release. That being said, I still love having it - and actually for the tracks that are most unliked by others - I LOVE the Scarlet / Fire transition. With Garcia's guitar dropping out for alot of it, is it an all time great version like 05/08/77 or 07/07/89? NO. But I actually love hearing the mellow groove the other band members create without him - it is a UNIQUE transition and a unique Scarlet / Fire for that reason - and once in awhile that unique mellowness is exactly what I am in the mood for. And for this 09/02/83 - the what I hear are unique post-Eyes Jam, unique type of Space, Wang Dang Doodle > Jack Straw, and some of the other highlights make it worthy of release at this point. Also Phil's intro to the crowd - Beware citizens!! It are those small tidbits unique to every show that makes me want to buy them all. So release them all from any era I say!! For DaP 28 - hoping against hope for some uncovered '70.
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Man I'm cool with this release. It has it's warts but overall some folks need another listen. I'm happy. Last 5 BB-Ill Communication 4-3-98 Island Tour Phish 7-11-03 PJ 4-26-03 PJ DaP 1 Extra Ween Chocolate and Cheese
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Another example is the 05/26/93 Road Trips. When that first came out I was like why? And I basically shelved it after some listens to set 1. Only very recently did I pull it out for the sake of some variety and finally really clued into listening to the Playing in the Band. I did a double take. Is this still the ‘93 show I had put on Or had I skipped way backwards to another era? Ah that’s why this one was worthy. Super glad to have it.....now. All these years later. If we trust Dave, each Pick has something to offer.....of course some more than others. But all worth some listens from time to time. The ‘86 TTATS - equal to ‘73-74 - no way. But fun to listen to less often. Absolutely.
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Confirms that this SBD recording still sounds way better than the AUD recording. Preconceived notions. If you despise Brent and the 80’s and expect (want) this to sound like crap, it will sound like crap. If you love Brent and the 80’s and expect (want) this to sound awesome, it will sound awesome. As I posted before, this sounds so much better than the hissy, muddy cassettes I used to have. Happy for this release and the ability to add to a less represented part of the 30-year collection. Thanks Dave and crew! My only complaint, and this is the same complaint as many releases, is the overlap transition between CD’s 2 and 3. Why does this keep happening? These aren’t cassette tapes. DAVE!, if you read the posts here you would be aware that many people load these onto music players/iTunes/etc. Overlap transitions sound completely stupid!!!!! Please STOP! If it’s Jeffrey doing it, tell him to stop. I actually go through the extra step of splicing out the overlap and burning CD-R copies. But a lot of people don’t, and just have to suffer through it. Charlie Miller makes his shows ‘seamless transitions’. Why can’t Dave and Jeffrey? Seriously, it takes more work to make an overlap transition than to just leave the recording the way it is on the master.
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I didn't see any digs at you space brother. Are they PMing you? No need to start with profanity and name calling. Good vibes about. Streicher is that 25 days include drums and Rhythm devils?
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So I have finally been able to give DaP 27 a good listen. I haveread most of the reviews of this release and honestly I fall in the middle of the road. As far as sound quality goes I agree it has its issues. At times it sounds like the vocals are loud or the keys are up too high in the mix. There are a few audience patches. The one during Eyes is pretty bad. Yet these issues weren't to my ears, persistent on every song. There are periods of balance with sone songs, at least as much as could be achieved given the source. Performance-wise, I have to agree with the theory that the boys were delving into high-octane party favors. I do think for some songs it paid off. Big Rail Road, Deal and GDTRFB were pretty good. Help > Slip > Frank was nice too even with the vocal nonsense during Help. The Jam before drums and the Space after it were very unique- I like both a lot. Converseley Throwing Stones went off of the deep end in a bad way. Like someone else said it almost sounds like Jerry soloed too a completely different song. Although it kind of worked in a way too, so I am not quite sure on that. Overall I like this show, it is inconsistent but when songs and some jams get going it is a lot of fun. I like many others, admittedly have gaps in my listening and 1983 is one of them. So I too went and listened to Dicks Picks 6 10/14/83 for a comparison. Although I may think that 10/14 show is better I still like this current DaP 27 as well. More importantly with Dave's Picks, Road Trips and Dicks Picks, along with box sets and one off releases, there has been a large amount of the "big" shows released. When I think of big shows I usually think of the great and widely available, usually SBD source shows from the tape trading days. So of course I think of 3/2/69, 4/28/71, 8/27/72, 5/8/77, 7/8/78, 9/18/87, 9/10/91, etc... I mean I had all of these on tapes and they have been officially released, most in their entirety. Yet there have been some releases that I certainly do not hate, but just do not do it for me. DaP 20, the Boulder 81 show is one. I don't feel that the show is terrible, but it just doesn't really seem to get going. Another that someone just mentioned is DaP 25 11/6/77. I dont think that the show is bad and it has some great jams, but the proceeding 3 shows are better overall to me. My point of all of this is that when a show that is not in the "big" category or even some that are, gets released I think there is a greater hit or miss factor, even when not considering sound quality. Yet despite this I think it is worth a chance every now and again for Dave and Co. to produce a release that might just be a sleeper. Whether the show wasn't all in the vault or if it is Betty Board upgrade, I think we need to get the under the radar shows. I always think if the Road Trips from 4/6/82. I had never heard that show until I purchased it from Real Gone Music. I really like that show and I have been repeatedly surprised by the playing on that one. I dont know what else to say other than Thank You, Dave L. and crew! Please keep these shows coming. Oh and yeah I want 10/18/72, 2/15/73, or 12/1/79 next please.
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This isn’t the first time that ‘sold out’ shows reappeared. Happened with several Eur72 shows. Also, I previously received a replacement DaP due to defective discs and it was a numbered copy even though it had ‘sold out’. And, recently there was an eBay seller with unnumbered DaPs that were surplus promo copies. The number on the cardboard holder is arbitrary. It’s not the production number of the CD, it’s the order that the cardboard holder went through the printer.
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Anyone else notice that printed on the plastic wrap in light blue ink right below the bar code it said ‘Disc Made in Mexico’?Seems that production is back up and running. Hopefully they resolved their QC issues.
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The audio of this show is just awful. Is this your first non-cassette release? Tell me, on a scale of 1 -10 where does something like Cornell 77 rank. And then how about this Boise show?
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If you recall, and if you don’t go back to the original page for the posts, many people hate the excessive reverb added to 5-8-77. A lot of people were actually pissed off at the sound quality of that release.It’s very unrealistic. Remember that Betty had a separate feed and adjusted the signal before recording. Betty was not in the arena, but was in a make shift studio, whether it be backstage or downstairs.
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Take Veneta or any of the Europe 72s or whatever you consider an excellent recording, assign a number to it from 1-10 and then assign a relative number to DaP 27. (But really this exercise was for dilbert)
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After giving this a couple of listens I can say that I'm glad to have it. The sound is not as good as some of the other official releases but it didn't bother me too much to enjoy the show. If I want to listen to perfectly recorded music I can spin some Steely Dan or some other impeccably recorded studio masterpieces. When I listen to live dead recorded decades ago I accept that the recording quality is not going to be perfect. This show is a snapshot of the band at a time when the impact of some lifestyle choices were probably starting to catch up to various members of the band and they sound different than in earlier years. But I like '80s dead, that was when I saw most of my shows and when I first acquired some often sketchy sounding early '80's live recordings on cassette ( and was glad to get them). This release sounds better than all of my cassettes (except my cassette of 8/13/75 which was pristine and included an extended intro by Bill Graham not included on the official release). The point being that while the sound quality is clearly not perfect, it is not so bad as to limit my enjoyment of the show. I don't think that I would like the dead so much if it weren't for diversity in sound over the years, and I am glad to get a listen to as much as possible. So far, I have been happy with Dave's choices for these releases, and I am guessing the trend will continue.
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Believe me I know which ones have overdubs in them. If it's not on the original Europe 72 it's not overdubbed. and there are 22 shows. Why don't you just answer the question instead of avoid it? Take Crimson white and Indigo then. Or is there no stellar live recording to compare Dave's Picks 27 to? That is so funny that you completely ignored the question and tried to make it sound like 22 shows are completely overdubbed. Take 25 songs that aren't and answer the question. Do you even understand the question? Are you that stupid? Why don't you just tell us Venetta is a crappy recording because it was hot that day and the instruments are out of tune. Maybe you keep your big nose out of business that's not yours.
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...I will admit that I am way beyond psyched for the '73 '74 PNW box set as I am particularly fond of the way the dead sounded in 1973. Jerry also, if there is something released from '73 I am on it.
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....not trying to be pretentious or anything. I just can't stop listening to them. Winterland 12.29.77 is in full force. aka DP 10....
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....that 12.29.77 has a Terrapin, JBG encore? Good stuff.
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